Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

There are 38085 comments on the Worcester Telegram & Gazette story from Jun 4, 2007, titled Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says. In it, Worcester Telegram & Gazette reports that:

TEHRAN, Iran- Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday said the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

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MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#37714 Feb 2, 2013
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When Will the Killing War in Iran Begin? It Already Has

“Economic sanctions are, at their core, a war against public health.”–The New England Journal of Medicine [1]

By Stephen Gowans

Contd.)

“Severe economic sanctions”, the Muellers contend, ought to be “designated by the older label of ‘economic warfare’”.“In past wars economic embargoes caused huge numbers of deaths. Some 750,000 German civilians may have died because of the Allied naval blockade during World War I.”[5]

“So long as they can coordinate their efforts,” the two political scientists continue,“the big countries have at their disposal a credible, inexpensive and potent weapon for use against small and medium-sized foes. The dominant powers have shown that they can inflict enormous pain at remarkably little cost to themselves or the global economy. Indeed, in a matter of months or years whole economies can be devastated…”[6] And with devastated economies, come crumbling healthcare systems and failure to provide for the basic healthcare rights of the population.

We might ask, then, why the United States and European Union, practitioners of economic warfare against Iran, are bent on destroying Iran’s economy, along with its public health system.“Sanctions,” New York Times’ reporter Rick Gladstone writes, have subjected “ordinary Iranians” to “increased deprivations” in order to “punish Iran for enriching uranium that the West suspects is a cover for developing the ability to make nuclear weapons.”[7] In other words, Iran is suspected of having a secret nuclear weapons program, and so must be sanctioned to force it to abandon it.

Contrary to Gladstone, the West doesn’t really believe that Tehran has a secret nuclear weapons program, yet even if we accept it does believe this, the position is indefensible. Why should Iranians be punished for developing a capability that the countries that have imposed sanctions already have?

The reason why, it will be said, is because Iranians are bent on developing nuclear weapons to destroy Israel. Didn’t Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad threaten to “wipe Israel off the map”?

Regurgitated regularly by US hawks and Israeli politicians to mobilize support for the bombing of Iran, the claim is demagogic rubbish. Ahmadinejad predicted that Israel as a Zionist state would someday disappear much as South Africa as an apartheid state did. He didn’t threaten the physical destruction of Israel and expressed only the wish that historic Palestine would become a multinational democratic state of Arabs and the Jews whose ancestors arrived in Palestine before Zionist settlers.[8]

No less damaging to the argument that Iranians aspire to take Israel out in a hail of nuclear missiles is the reality that it would take decades for Iran to match Israel’s already formidable nuclear arsenal, if indeed it aspires to. For the foreseeable future, Israel is in a far better position to wipe Iran off the map. And given Israel’s penchant for flexing its US-built military muscle, is far more likely to be the wiper than wipee. Already it has almost wiped an entire people from the map of historic Palestine.

But this is irrelevant, for the premise that the West suspects Iran of developing a nuclear weapons capability is false. To be sure, the mass media endlessly recycle the fiction that the West suspects Iran’s uranium enrichment program is a cover for a nuclear weapons program, but who in the West suspects this? Not high officials of the US state, for they have repeatedly said that there’s no evidence that Iran has a secret nuclear weapons program.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#37715 Feb 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. To say that Allah is Satan shows that you know nothing about either of them and are just speaking thru your hatred filled uncouth mind.
For starter in Quran it is said that "before you Read Quran, seek Refuge from Allah against the accursed Satan"
How could it be if Allah and Satan are one and same, did Satan inserted this verse in the book of Allah?
02. Your comments about our prophet, confirm your status as an uncouth person, having a foul mouth and fouler thought process.
Persons like you are what is behind this anti Islam and anti Muslim campaigns in Western countries.
Your hate will not do any harm to either islam or Muslim or Our Prophet's status… it would only cause you deep pain when you see Islam propagating and getting stronger.
Greetings MUQ ~ long time no see :)

We must recall one of the Statutes of GOD - Thou Shalt not kill...

Will the killing stop in the name of religion?

Many Christians acknowledge that JESUS is the SON of GOD, sent to us for a purpose. We do not all hear the voice of the same Prophet (PBUT), so we must have different Spiritual Pathways; we must be heading to different Realms.

But let us head towards our own Eternities in Peace and in Harmony, without the need to change other people's directions - and then, perhaps, GOD will be able to smile!!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#37716 Feb 2, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Greetings MUQ ~ long time no see :)
We must recall one of the Statutes of GOD - Thou Shalt not kill...
Will the killing stop in the name of religion?
Many Christians acknowledge that JESUS is the SON of GOD, sent to us for a purpose. We do not all hear the voice of the same Prophet (PBUT), so we must have different Spiritual Pathways; we must be heading to different Realms.
But let us head towards our own Eternities in Peace and in Harmony, without the need to change other people's directions - and then, perhaps, GOD will be able to smile!!
Welcome back to the thread.

Look and see the hostile attitude of most people towards islam.

And then see how we muslims are trying to respect all prophets of God and trying for co-existing in peace and harmony.

On any giving day, you will find Islam and Muslims more accomodating than people who profess other faiths.

We can live in peace and harmony , each following our respective paths, provided we do not try to demonize each other.

I wish more people think in the same way.

Glad to see that you are back.

MUQ
The Reality

Kolkata, India

#37717 Feb 2, 2013
The genesis of hate of Jews and Christians for the Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) is his birth in the family of Prophet Ismail, not in the family of Prophet Ishaque. Prophets Moses and Jesus (pbuh) were from the family of Ishaque, and so Jews and Christians were expecting that the last prophet of God (about whom both Torah and Bible had given details) will be born in the family of their prophets. It is written in history books that in the lifetime of Prophet Muhammad, Jews and Christians had expressed their feelings which they later converted in enmity with Muslims and Islam.

In last 1400 years (Prophet Muhammad was born in 571 AD), thousands of books have been written in the west to malign the character of the last Prophet of God Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Their main target is the character assassination of the Prophet in order to distort Islam. They have distorted their own religion in a way that now Christians make films depicting Virgin Marry (pbuh) as prostitute and Jesus (pbuh) as a gay (God forbid) and the whole Christian world enjoy such things in the name of freedom of expression shamefully. But Muslims can’t tolerate this at any cost, because they respect Prophet more than their life and this is the feeling of Muslims which Christian world fails to understand. They hate Prophet Muhammad because they do not respect Prophets Moses and Jesus. They hate Quran because they don’t have original Bible and Torah.

BUT DON'T WORRY not a single Muslim from one billion population will ever make a single cartoon ridiculing Jesus (pbuh). Did a single Muslim in the entire history even insult any religious personality or religious books of Jews, Christianity or Hinduism? Never. Because Muslims believe that Moses and Jesus were the prophets and messengers of God, and maybe some Hindu ‘gods’ were actually prophets, so they give the same respect to them like the prophet Muhammad (pbuh). The only difference is the Muslims follow only Muhammad (pbuh) because his teachings are in original forms. Muslims all over the world believe that Torah, Bible and Vedas all are divine scriptures so they respect all holy scriptures, but they follow only Holy Quran because it’s only divine book which is available in its original form undoubtedly. This is the greatness of the religion called Islam. In this way Islam unifies all religions of the world.
Gary

Westerville, OH

#37718 Feb 3, 2013
The World as a whole should not be too concerned about what Iran is claiming. Iran is basically a Third World entity that has both purchased and stolen some technology and is turning it into a few primitive WMD. They are decades behind in many areas and are reading in very deep water for their own good. Once Israel takes care of the Iran and Syria issue, the World will eventually forget them and move onwards.

“To contract new debts...”

Since: Apr 08

is not the way to pay old ones

#37719 Feb 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Welcome back to the thread.
Look and see the hostile attitude of most people towards islam.
And then see how we muslims are trying to respect all prophets of God and trying for co-existing in peace and harmony.
On any giving day, you will find Islam and Muslims more accomodating than people who profess other faiths.
We can live in peace and harmony , each following our respective paths, provided we do not try to demonize each other.
I wish more people think in the same way.
Glad to see that you are back.
MUQ
Being an atheist allows me to look at all sides of the three major faiths,(Christian, Jewish and Muslim), and see the good and bad in all without blinders. The majority of each faiths followers are generally good people who want peace with their neighbors and wish nothing but good to all mankind. That said, each also have their extremists who, while in the minority, commit acts that overshadow all of the good performed by the majority. Sadly, it is these extreme acts committed by such a small faction of each faith that people remember.
w wman uk

UK

#37720 Feb 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Welcome back to the thread.
Look and see the hostile attitude of most people towards islam.
And then see how we muslims are trying to respect all prophets of God and trying for co-existing in peace and harmony.
On any giving day, you will find Islam and Muslims more accomodating than people who profess other faiths.
We can live in peace and harmony , each following our respective paths, provided we do not try to demonize each other.
I wish more people think in the same way.
Glad to see that you are back.
MUQ
Respect is this what the muslims are doing to the Copts murder rape distruction of churches . Perhaps if you stop having wet dreams about the genocide of the Jews, your admiration for hitler and your wish for world domination and shirai law for everyone you might just be credable. We see every day the treachery and violence muslims show each other. Why should non believers think for one moment that islam will let them live in peace. The plight of Christians in vertuly evey muslim country demonstrates this with sadly with few exceptions.
Muslims are not bad people but islam is rotten to the core.
w wman uk

UK

#37721 Feb 3, 2013
Hunglo wrote:
<quoted text>
Being an atheist allows me to look at all sides of the three major faiths,(Christian, Jewish and Muslim), and see the good and bad in all without blinders. The majority of each faiths followers are generally good people who want peace with their neighbors and wish nothing but good to all mankind. That said, each also have their extremists who, while in the minority, commit acts that overshadow all of the good performed by the majority. Sadly, it is these extreme acts committed by such a small faction of each faith that people remember.
The 40 thousand dead in syria might not agree . It is only where islam is compeled to restraint that peace prevails.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#37722 Feb 3, 2013
Hunglo wrote:
<quoted text>
Being an atheist allows me to look at all sides of the three major faiths,(Christian, Jewish and Muslim), and see the good and bad in all without blinders. The majority of each faiths followers are generally good people who want peace with their neighbors and wish nothing but good to all mankind. That said, each also have their extremists who, while in the minority, commit acts that overshadow all of the good performed by the majority. Sadly, it is these extreme acts committed by such a small faction of each faith that people remember.
I appreciate your good wishes. We can all live together provided we respect each other and do not try to demonize each other.

Just look at the post of this WW Man immediately after your post. What would you say of such people?

Spreading hate and hatred twenty four hours a day? Or twenty five hours a day?
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#37723 Feb 3, 2013
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When Will the Killing War in Iran Begin? It Already Has

“Economic sanctions are, at their core, a war against public health.”–The New England Journal of Medicine [1]

By Stephen Gowans
(Contd.)

The consensus view of the United States’ 16 intelligence agencies is that Iran abandoned its nuclear weapons program years ago. Director of US intelligence James Clapper “said there was no evidence that (Iran) had made a decision on making a concerted push to build a weapon. David H. Petraeus, the C.I.A. director, concurred with that view…. Other senior United States officials, including Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, have made similar statements.”[9]

Rather than weakening this conclusion, stepped up US espionage has buttressed it. Iran’s leaders “have opted for now against…designing a nuclear warhead,” said one former intelligence official briefed on US intelligence findings.“It isn’t the absence of evidence, it’s the evidence of an absence. Certain things are not being done”[10] that would indicate that Iran is working on nuclear weapons. Even Mossad, Israeli’s intelligence agency “does not disagree with the US on the weapons program,” according to a former senior US intelligence official.[11]

So, contrary to the claim that the West “suspects” Iran of concealing a nuclear weapons program, no one in a position of authority in the US state believes this to be true. Neither does Israeli intelligence. Why, then, is the United States and its allies subjecting ordinary Iranians to increased deprivations through sanctions?

The answer, according to Henry Kissinger, is because US policy in the Middle East for the last half century has been aimed at “preventing any power in the region from emerging as a hegemon.” This is another way of saying that the aim of US Middle East policy is to stop any Middle Eastern country from challenging its domination by the United States. Iran, Kissinger points out, has emerged as the principal challenger.[12]

Indeed, it did so as long ago as 1979, when the local extension of US power in Iran, the Shah, was overthrown, and the country set out on a path of independent economic and political development. For the revolutionaries’ boldness in asserting their sovereignty, Washington pressed Saddam Hussein’s Iraq into a war with Iran. This served the same purpose as today’s economic warfare, sabotage, threats of military intervention, and assassinations of Iran’s nuclear scientists: to weaken the country and stifle its development; to prevent it from thriving and thereby becoming an example to other countries of development possibilities outside US domination.
jim

San Leandro, CA

#37724 Feb 3, 2013
Anyone with half a brain knows this article above is a Big Fat Lie, some one tell me another, how hot is the fordow plant????? Hot, hot, hot, and there will be another, one destroyed if iran trys to stay the course it is now in, this past year electrical energy was cut to fordow, a warning, the big computer virus, the rock that exploded near fordow which I might add was gathering data incoming an outgoing, an now fordow is kapeash because they were hard headed an hell bent on the a bomb, study your history an you will see Israel takes Great concern when it a concern of their security.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#37725 Feb 3, 2013
Mr. Hunglo

There is another Hate and Hatred spreader on the thread, now he has assumed the name of Jim. Look at his above post.

It seems the hate spewers are more and peace makers are very less on this thread (and same goes on all other threads too)
w wman uk

UK

#37726 Feb 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Mr. Hunglo
There is another Hate and Hatred spreader on the thread, now he has assumed the name of Jim. Look at his above post.
It seems the hate spewers are more and peace makers are very less on this thread (and same goes on all other threads too)
What about the plight of the Copts? The truth about islam the slavers religion hurts dont it mug.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#37727 Feb 4, 2013
w wman uk wrote:
<quoted text> What about the plight of the Copts? The truth about islam the slavers religion hurts dont it mug.
The problem with you people is that you only worry about one type of people. When I ask what about the plight of Palestinians? You change the topic and put all the blames on them.

Why can't you do the same for other people too? Are Copts blameless? Are they doing "Nothing" to create rift with Muslims, under whose protection they are living for past 1400 years?

“To contract new debts...”

Since: Apr 08

is not the way to pay old ones

#37728 Feb 4, 2013
w wman uk wrote:
<quoted text> The 40 thousand dead in syria might not agree . It is only where islam is compeled to restraint that peace prevails.
The US civil war killed between 650,000 and 850,000 or about 2% of the population at the time. In Northern Ireland 3526 people were killed in the "troubles" between 1969 and 2001, about 2% of the population. So far in Syria less than .2% of the population has been killed in a civil war driven not by religion as much as by a desire to overthrow a despotic regime.
w wman uk

Chatham, UK

#37729 Feb 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Welcome back to the thread.
Look and see the hostile attitude of most people towards islam.
And then see how we muslims are trying to respect all prophets of God and trying for co-existing in peace and harmony.
On any giving day, you will find Islam and Muslims more accomodating than people who profess other faiths.
We can live in peace and harmony , each following our respective paths, provided we do not try to demonize each other.
I wish more people think in the same way.
Glad to see that you are back.
MUQ
Look how hostile islam is to the non believer this is your unholy books writing yes no maybe??
Just some peacefull teachings from the religion of great offence.
KORAN commands to kill infidels:
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers.- Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah.- Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter.- 2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme.(different translation:) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely.- Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it.- 2:216
(different translation:) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.
..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43
If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered.- 3:157-8
You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord.- Surah 3:169-71
Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward.- Surah 4:74
Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil.- 4:76
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them.- 4:89
Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done.- 5:14
O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people.- 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39
O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding.- 8:65
It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land.- 8:67
Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers.- 9:2-3
When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them.- 9:5
Believers! Know that idolators are unclean.- 9:28
Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled.- 9:29 (another source:)
Religion of peace no ,of great offence yes.
w wman uk

Chatham, UK

#37730 Feb 4, 2013
Hunglo wrote:
<quoted text>
The US civil war killed between 650,000 and 850,000 or about 2% of the population at the time. In Northern Ireland 3526 people were killed in the "troubles" between 1969 and 2001, about 2% of the population. So far in Syria less than .2% of the population has been killed in a civil war driven not by religion as much as by a desire to overthrow a despotic regime.
Thats fine then only .2 murhumna on murhumna that of no matter for a despotic religion?
w wman uk

Chatham, UK

#37731 Feb 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem with you people is that you only worry about one type of people. When I ask what about the plight of Palestinians? You change the topic and put all the blames on them.
Why can't you do the same for other people too? Are Copts blameless? Are they doing "Nothing" to create rift with Muslims, under whose protection they are living for past 1400 years?
The ordenary palistinian people are preyed on daily by their gangsta leadership fat on arab money. Its so islamic to blame the Copts for being murdered and raped l supose they set alight to their own churches or was it the Jews.
w wman uk

Sheffield, UK

#37732 Feb 4, 2013
The Reality wrote:
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There are, of course, many sins one can commit in the eyes of religion. Among the greatest is the sin of having an original thought. Religion disapproves of original thought the way Dracula disapproves of sunlight.
Almost as bad is the sin of blasphemy, for which Christ was executed.
Of course I could simply have him slaughtered and butchered. But I like animals, and I don’t think that’s the right way to treat them.
And he knows this, the crafty beggar, which makes him quite difficult to control.
I live in England, which is a Christian country. Not as rabidly so as America, but in a more genteel biscuit-tin sort of way. The Church of England is to religion what the cucumber sandwich is to food – it goes quite nicely with a cup of tea, but that’s about it.
Our national flag is the cross of St George, the cross of the Crusades. Our trans-national British flag, the Union Jack, is a blizzard of crosses, each representing a different Christian saint.
Our American cousins don’t have a cross on their flag, but they don’t need one.“In God We Trust” is written on their money. A cross on the flag would be overkill, and that’s the army’s job.
Both the American president and our prime minister are devout Christians, in a warmongering arms dealing sort of way.
As a result, our foreign policy is dictated by American Christian fundamentalist nutcases, who are often in a bad mood with the rest of the world because they find themselves in the awkward position of hating Jews, but loving Israel.
Ideally they’d like to see all the Jews in the world living in the Middle East. Then they wouldn’t have to focus so much on keeping them out of their golf clubs.
They hate Muslims too, but not in the same way. After all, Muslims didn’t kill Jesus. They only killed a few thousand real people, and destroyed some perfectly good real estate.
(Incidentally, I’m not blaming the American people for their government. It’s not as if they have a real choice, any more than we do in Britain. But that’s the price of freedom.)
These crackpots love Israel because they want to see the Temple of Solomon rebuilt in Jerusalem, which they believe will herald the second coming of Christ.
Then, after the mandatory bloodbath (we are dealing with religion after all) true believers will ascend to heaven on a fluffy golden cloud while the rest of us are pitchforked into the eternal flames of hell.
But first they have to get rid of the Al-Aqsa mosque, which currently occupies the temple site, and also happens to be the third holiest shrine in all Islam.
And this is where it could get tricky, because we all know Islam doesn’t stand for any nonsense. Actually I take that back. It stands for a lot of nonsense, like any religion.
But Islam is more than just a religion. It's a complete way of life, with very strict rules of behaviour which must be adhered to by everyone, often on pain of death.
Also, it has managed to capitalise on the anger, poverty and ignorance in the Third World by giving people meaning and structure in their lives.
As a result, it now controls a large mass of volatile primitive opinion which is quick to take offence and easily moved to senseless violence.
And it wants to take over the world.
And in my new show I’ll be making jokes about all this.
After all, if you can’t laugh at something, how can you take it seriously, right?
I’ll also be poking fun at my own personal ball and chain, the Catholic Church, which over the years has consigned more infidels and heretics to the flames of hell on earth than all the Saudi-funded suicide bombers in Pakistan.
More recently, the Church has been accused of anti-semitism because it collaborated with the nazis and ignored the Holocaust.
But we now know this was done primarily to stop the spread of communism.
The fact that so many Jews were killed was purely a bonus.
By Pat Condell
hunter

Norwich, UK

#37733 Feb 4, 2013
Gary wrote:
The World as a whole should not be too concerned about what Iran is claiming. Iran is basically a Third World entity that has both purchased and stolen some technology and is turning it into a few primitive WMD. They are decades behind in many areas and are reading in very deep water for their own good. Once Israel takes care of the Iran and Syria issue, the World will eventually forget them and move onwards.
Afghanistan you could say is a third world country,but the insurgents still have not been beat!
Iran is a different ball game bigger country, bigger population,
bigger weapons.
Israel has no chance of taking care of Iran without the U.S.
backing them and they are financially in the shit.

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