Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

There are 38125 comments on the Worcester Telegram & Gazette story from Jun 4, 2007, titled Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says. In it, Worcester Telegram & Gazette reports that:

TEHRAN, Iran- Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday said the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

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The Advocate

Mexico, Mexico

#37377 Nov 29, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Each word which I used in my post is well understood. Modern Materialistic Atheist Philosophy, which of this word you did not understand?
Secularism is a part of the Modern Materialistic Atheist Philosophy, not the whole of it.
Separating religion from state is a standard Christian concept, because Jesus did not leave any directions about it, so Christians are clueless as to how to act on this.
I am so busy in telling about Islam that I have no time to study Sufism and Deism, if you have studied it, then present their beliefs and I will comment how for they are supported by Islam.
Once you have Gold Standard, you do not go about analyzing Bronze or Copper or Zinc Standards…. It is these standards who get to be certified and corrected against the Gold Standard.
Islam’s position is the same vis a vis other isms and ity ‘.
I understood what you're trying to say, but there's no word for all of those concepts put together. Just because someone is relgioues doesn't prevent that person from being materialistic, and just because someone is Atheistic doesn't mean that person is modern (and so on and so forth).

Secularism isn't a Christian concept...it can be applied to several areas, but the fact remains that it's still a relatively young concept.

And I'm not so sure it's valid to say that Islam/religion in general is the "gold standard." There is a HUGE amount of flaws and horribly outdated concepts and rules in any religion. By refusing to actually learn about other philosophies I think you are denying yourself the virtue of learning and curiosity. I'm not trying to say that you should abandon religion; rather, you can't analyse other concepts if you don't know much about them. That's why I'm rather skeptical about your "analysis" on any non Islamic tradition.

I'm not an expert on many religions, but I have at least tried to learn about the dangers of a religiously based society. That in itself can be applied broadly.
w wman uk

Leeds, UK

#37379 Nov 30, 2012
The Advocate wrote:
<quoted text>
I understood what you're trying to say, but there's no word for all of those concepts put together. Just because someone is relgioues doesn't prevent that person from being materialistic, and just because someone is Atheistic doesn't mean that person is modern (and so on and so forth).
Secularism isn't a Christian concept...it can be applied to several areas, but the fact remains that it's still a relatively young concept.
And I'm not so sure it's valid to say that Islam/religion in general is the "gold standard." There is a HUGE amount of flaws and horribly outdated concepts and rules in any religion. By refusing to actually learn about other philosophies I think you are denying yourself the virtue of learning and curiosity. I'm not trying to say that you should abandon religion; rather, you can't analyse other concepts if you don't know much about them. That's why I'm rather skeptical about your "analysis" on any non Islamic tradition.
I'm not an expert on many religions, but I have at least tried to learn about the dangers of a religiously based society. That in itself can be applied broadly.
l agree islam is definatly not a gold standaed. More like a lead yoke around it believers necks particularly the women. mug is to much of a coward to admit the faults and fault lines in islam.
w wman uk

Leeds, UK

#37380 Nov 30, 2012
Separating religion from state is a standard Christian concept, because Jesus did not leave any directions about it, so Christians are clueless as to how to act on this. What rubish it to hundreds of years and milions of lives to seperate religion from state. The murhumna want evolution to run backwards its not going to happen is it?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#37381 Nov 30, 2012
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

CIA Lies About Lies
The Iraq War and the Persistent Myth of ‘Intelligence Failure’

By Jeremy R. Hammond (Contd.)

The NIE included an assessment from the Army National Ground Intelligence Center (NGIC) that, due to the tubes’ specifications, they were “highly unlikely to be intended for rocket motor cases.” Yet the IAEA had confirmed that the Iraqis were attempting to reverse engineer an Italian rocket, the Medusa, which used the same material, 7075-T6 aluminum tubes with the same dimensions. Furthermore, in a written response to the Senate Committee, the NGIC acknowledged that “lightweight rockets, such as those originally developed for air-to-ground systems, typically use 7075-T6 aluminum for the motor casing because of its strength and weight”. The NGIC additionally acknowledged that “it is not unusual to use the aluminum alloy specified by Iraq for casings of unguided rockets.”

The apparent explanation for the contradiction was once again the CIA’s control of information. One expert told David Albright “that he did not believe the CIA analysts presented NGIC with complete information about the case” prior to the publication of the NIE. The Department of Defense (DOD) similarly confirmed that the information its analysts had relied upon had been provided by the CIA. One engineer from the DOD told the Senate Committee that it became clear to him that the CIA “had an agenda” and was trying “to bias us, to encourage us to come up with [the] answer” that agreed with their own assessment.

With regard to the claim that the tubes were “excessively tightly toleranced” for use in rockets, a DOD rocket design engineer told the Committee that this could be explained because Iraqi engineers, who “don’t have 40 years of rocket manufacture [experience] like we have”, would “tend to err on the conservative side.” Another engineer agreed,“If you were starting from scratch, you would tend to go for a straighter, more tightly-toleranced product.” The DOE observed that this was common practice for inexperienced engineers trying to reverse engineer equipment, and the IAEA also confirmed this explanation. Further illustrating the dishonesty of the CIA’s assessment, the DOE explained that the tubes used in the U.S. Mark-66 rocket in fact had tolerances that exceeded those of the tubes procured by the Iraqis. As for the supposed “high cost” of the tubes, DOD design engineers responsible for U.S. rocket systems told the Senate Committee that this was “not correct at all”. On the contrary, high-strength aluminum is “around the world the material of choice for low cost rocket systems” and “one of the cheapest materials to make rocket motor cases.”
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#37382 Nov 30, 2012
The CIA claimed in the NIE that it had successfully spun one of the tubes and that its test showed that it was “suitable as a centrifuge rotor”, even though the DOE had written an analysis of the spin test stating that it actually “would have precluded their use in a centrifuge.” The NIE did not repeat the false claim that the tubes were a “match” to the Zippe design, but did claim their dimensions were “similar”, and it omitted the fact that they were not consistent with Iraq’s previous centrifuge designs and the fact that the tubes’ specifications matched perfectly those used in Iraq’s existing rocket program.

After U.N. inspectors returned to Iraq under the Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC), chief inspector Hans Blix reported in December 2002 that while it was still investigating the administration’s claims,“Iraq has also provided information on a short-range rocket that is manufactured using 81 mm aluminum tubes”, which was “not a new disclosure”. In January 2003, Mohamed ElBaradei briefed the Security Council that Iraq had explained its attempts to acquire the tubes “in connection with a programme aimed at reverse engineering 81-millimetre rockets.” In order to verify the Iraqi explanation, the IAEA had conducted an extensive investigation finding that “the specifications of the aluminum tubes sought by Iraq … appear to be consistent with reverse engineering of rockets.

While it would be possible to modify such tubes for the manufacture of centrifuges, they are not directly suitable for it.” The assessment of the DOE, as already noted, had already been made public, and the INR’s agreement with the DOE was also reported by the New York Times in January. On January 27, ElBaradei briefed the Council again that after extensive investigation, the IAEA had concluded that “the aluminum tubes would be consistent with the purpose stated by Iraq and, unless modified, would not be suitable for manufacturing centrifuges”. He added that “we have to date found no evidence that Iraq has revived its nuclear weapons programme since the elimination of the programme in the 1990s”.
w wman uk

UK

#37385 Dec 1, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. Islam not Gold Standard?
Yes I knew that, those dealing in "fake gold" would say that!! The so called Fundamental articles of faith of Christians are not pronounced by Jesus Christ.
It is Outsiders to the faith that laid down those fundamentals of Christian faith.
02. Seperation between Church and State:
So now it has come to vote? Is it?
If your Millions agree that seperation is OK then it will be Ok.
And if our Millions upon Millions say that seperation of Church and state is not OK, then these Millions are wrong?
What is again this dual standard?
Truth and falsehood cannot be decided by votes. They are proven by reason and logic and proofs from scriptures and lives of their prophets.
We agree islam is not a gold standard its a sub standard cult which fails its believers suports murder and vengence it is belief system that like hitlers nazis(who you so greatly admire) rely on permanet offence. After all the humble islamofachiests want to do take over the word and go back to the stone age. Force islam on the infidal kill all the Jews no much to ask for is it. We only have to look at the excelent islamic goverments around the world opps sorry there arnt any. Look to egypt no sooner has morsi been opoint president he trys to proclaim himself the head murhmna those poor people have swaped on bastard for another bastard . Only this ones an islamic bastard who will eventuly wage war on Isreal .It oh so islamic.
w wman uk

UK

#37386 Dec 1, 2012
There are no problems in religion based society, if the people are really religious!!
There was no problem with comunisim but its soon became aparrant that some people were more equal than others.
w wman uk

Liverpool, UK

#37387 Dec 1, 2012
Taken from the book of murhumnas
Unbelievers
"This Book is not to be doubted.... As for the unbelievers, it is the same whether or not you forewarn them; they will not have faith. God has set a seal upon their hearts and ears; their sight is dimmed and grievous punishment awaits them." Quran 2:1/2:6-2:10
"God's curse be upon the infidels! Evil is that for which they have bartered away their souls. To deny God's own revelation, grudging that He should reveal His bounty to whom He chooses from among His servants! They have incurred God's most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers." Quran 2:89-2:90
"Lord...Give us victory over the unbelievers." Quran 2:286
"Lord...give us victory over the unbelievers." Quran 3:148
"I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers." Quran 8:12
"When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them." Quran 9:5
"Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate." Quran 9:73
"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous." Quran 9:123
"Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another..." Quran 5:51
"He that chooses a religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost." Quran 3:85
"Let not believers make friends with infidels in preference to the faithful - he that does this has nothing to hope for from Good - except in self-defense. God admonishes you to fear Him: for to God shall all return." Quran 3:28
"Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed with rods of iron.
"Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told:'Taste the torment of the Conflagration!'" Quran 22:19-20
"Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." Quran 48:29
"Those that deny Our revelations We will burn in fire. No sooner will their skins be consumed than We shall give them other skins, so that they may truly taste the scourge. God is mighty and wise." Quran 4:56
"Let not the unbelievers think that they will ever get away. They have not the power to do so. Muster against them all the men and cavalry at your command, so that you may strike terror into the enemy of God and your enemy..." Quran 8:59-60
"Believers, know that the idolaters [non-Muslims] are unclean. Let them not approach the Sacred Mosque after this year is ended." Quran 9:28
"The unbelievers among the People of the Book [Bible] and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures." Quran 98:6
Its oh so islamic
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#37388 Dec 1, 2012
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

CIA Lies About Lies
The Iraq War and the Persistent Myth of ‘Intelligence Failure’

By Jeremy R. Hammond (Contd.)

President Bush nevertheless claimed two days later that Saddam Hussein “has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production” and that he “has not credibly explained these activities.” Secretary of State Colin Powell repeated the administration’s case at the Security Council on February 5, declaring that “Saddam Hussein is determined to get his hands on a nuclear bomb. He is so determined that he has made repeated covert attempts to acquire high-specification aluminum tubes”.

While acknowledging that there “are differences of opinion” about the tubes, Powell claimed that “Most U.S. experts think they are intended to serve as rotors in centrifuges used to enrich uranium.” The truth was that, as David Albright later observed,“The vast majority of gas centrifuge experts in this country and abroad who are knowledgeable about this case reject the CIA’s case”, including the nation’s top experts at the DOE who had “virtually the only expertise on gas centrifuges and nuclear weapons programs in the United States government”, as well as the intelligence branch of Powell’s own State Department.

Powell disingenuously and meaninglessly declared that “all the experts who have analyzed the tubes in our possession agree that they can be adapted for centrifuge use”. As one DOE analyst would later explain to the Senate Committee, you could also theoretically “turn your new Yugo into a Cadillac”. Retired Oak Ridge nuclear scientist Dr. Houston G. Wood, one of the top experts in the world on centrifuges, similarly explained that “it would have been extremely difficult to make these tubes into centrifuges. It stretches the imagination to come up with a way. I do not know any real centrifuge experts that feel differently.”

Powell lied that the tubes “are manufactured to a tolerance that far exceeds U.S. requirements for comparable rockets”, even though his own department’s intelligence agency had sent him a memo identifying this claim as a key concern and stating,“In fact, the most comparable US system is a tactical rocket—the US Mark 66 air-launched 70mm rocket—that uses the same, high-grade (7075-T6) aluminum, and that has specifications with similar tolerances.”
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#37389 Dec 1, 2012
He cited the anodized coating as evidence, asking why Iraq would “go to all that trouble for something that, if it was a rocket, would soon be blown into shrapnel when it went off?” In fact, the anodized coating was a clear indication the tubes were intended for rockets, the coating being to protect the tubes from the weather; and since the tubes would require machining to modify them for use in centrifuges, Powell, if he was honest, should have asked why the Iraqis would go to all that trouble if the coating would soon be removed to make centrifuges anyways.

Mohammed ElBaradei refuted Powell’s lies again in March, saying that “Extensive field investigation and document analysis have failed to uncover any evidence that Iraq intended to use these 81mm tubes for any project other than the reverse engineering of rockets…. Based on available evidence, the IAEA team has concluded that Iraq’s efforts to import these aluminum tubes were not likely to have been related to the manufacture of centrifuges and, moreover, that it was highly unlikely that Iraq could have achieved the considerable re-design needed to use them in a revived centrifuge programme.”

Thus, even before the U.S. launched its invasion of Iraq ostensibly to rid it of WMD because the world could not wait for the proof of Iraq’s possession of nuclear weapons to come “in the form of a mushroom cloud”, it was public knowledge that the British government, the IAEA, the top U.S. experts on centrifuges at the DOE, and the INR all agreed that the evidence did not indicate that the tubes were intended for use in a nuclear weapons program.

On July 9, 2004, the Senate Committee published its report on pre-war intelligence. It concluded that “the judgment in the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE), that Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear program, was not supported by the intelligence” and, furthermore, that “the information available to the Intelligence Community indicated that these tubes were intended to be used for an Iraqi conventional rocket program and not a nuclear program.” In the CIA’s final report on the findings of the ISG in September 2004, the agency reluctantly admitted that “Iraqi interest in aluminum tubes appears to have come from efforts to produce 81-mm rockets, rather than a nuclear end use.”

Needless to say, given the actual facts, the narrative that the admittedly false claims that Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear weapons program were the product of an “intelligence failure” cannot withstand the slightest scrutiny. This claim is completely fictional. Simply stated, the fact of the matter is that the government lied, and no attempt by individuals or agencies responsible for these lies seeking to obfuscate and deny that fact could possibly be considered a “mea culpa” by any serious and honest analyst. The failure of journalists to objectively state the obvious fact that government officials lied and the near universal willingness to repeat the official fictional narrative of “intelligence failure” following the invasion is a further reflection of the same intellectual culture in the U.S. that was witnessed prior to the war, when the mainstream media uncritically parroted the government’s claims and reported lies and deceptions as fact.
ocxz

Saint Gilles, Reunion

#37391 Dec 1, 2012
w wman uk wrote:
<quoted text> Dont worry l never seek the aprobation of fools. Such poor grammer and spelling prissy, have you blown a fuse and fallen off you pedestal.
You are dead right.

When i said You, I meant the fool w wman uk.
When you answer we, it is the fool w wman uk who wants to speak on behalf of all other fools.
But because w wman uk is an incompetent fool and his/her argumentation is inexistant or poor at the best, the other fools don't want to have nothing to do with w wman uk.
So w wman uk does not ask them for approval and posts his/her foolish nonsense with the self satisfaction feeling that he/she actually represents the rest of the fools.

Way to go !
The Advocate

Mexico, Mexico

#37392 Dec 1, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. what I meant was the Materialistic and Atheistic wave which is sweeping the Modern World.
To most people of this concept the religion is your personal matter and has no place in our day to day activities in education, trade, economy, banking and running the country.
This is the concept which marginalizes religion to a closet you keep religion inside your house.
The religions which provide directions in all walks of life cannot live with this concept. You are not a "Part Time Follower" of your religion.
02. I know Secularism is not a Christian concept, but it is derived from the Jesus' statement "To give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God which is God'".
The Christians drive wrong conclusion from it that state and Church should be kept separate from each other.
03. I mentioned "Gold Standard" in the reference that Islamic teachings are preserved in their Pure Form and in the Pure Condition in which they were revealed.
While scriptures of all other religions and faiths have been changed and have been tampered with.
So in order to know what are teachings from God, we have to take Islam as the Gold Standard and then compare it with other religions and faiths.
Please come forward with those "Huge defects and flaws in Islamic laws" so we can see how are they compared with other religions / faiths / Our Modern Law makers and our Super Brains of all ages.
You should also analyze how Islamic laws solve the problems from their roots while our "Modern Super Brains" only solve one aspect of the problem and leave other sides, due to which no problem is removed from the roots.
04. I know you do not want me to abandon my religion, what you want is to "dilute" my views with other concepts.
You want me to be neither a "Full Muslim" nor a "Full Atheist"…. In religious terms you want me to become a hypocrite!!
05. There are no problems in religion based society, if the people are really religious!!
What happens is that in so called "religious societies" most of non religious people and hypocrites wear the robes of religious people and grab all the powers and use it for their own petty purposes.
This is the problem which you found in these "deeply religious societies". Nothing more.
Sweeping the world? Pffft. You see states like the KSA and the US are still dominated by religious conservatives in so many aspects!

And it's not about "marginalising" religion; it's the fact that religion is a bias upon politics and public life that is not shared by everyone; secular life takes into account everyne's needs instead of marginalising THEIRS like state religion does.

There is absolutely NO evidence that it is a Christian derived concept, when in fact Christians are among the most vehement opposers of any kind of secular regulation (when you see nutjobs like the Westboro Baptist Church, the Taliban, Gush Emunim and such)

How can you know for certain that there WASN'T any sort of modification within Islamic scripture? And why insist on the superiority on Islamic teachings when you yourself vehemently refuse to even LEARN about what other religions say or teach? It's not asking you to convert -- it's asking you to actually know what others are staying instead of trying to extrapolate your extremely narrowminded and limited views on subjects that you don't even know what the hell are even saying because you REFUSE to know.

It's...just incredibly astonishing that you refuse to acknowledge all the problems that come with state religion in the first place. The states that officially enforce religiously based living and legislation are always among the most oppressive. Who's to say that those who support that always do it for their own gains as opposed to being ideological fanatics?
w wman uk

Abingdon, UK

#37394 Dec 2, 2012
Dear mug the truth can often be painful when you don't want to hear it, but you're going to bloody well hear it anyway. And the truth is that Jews have contributed more to humanity than any other group of people. Way more than Muslims. Vastly more than Muslims. We're talking different planet more than Muslims. Jews receive a disproportionate number of Nobel Prizes - real ones, I mean, not the bullshit Peace one - because they're at the top of sciences, medicine, technology - you name it. Wherever there's progress in this world you'll often find some Jew in there making all the difference. Israel today is a world technological leader alone in the Middle East like a diamond in a sea of mud. Compared to Jews, Muslims are passengers on planet earth getting a free ride. Even the wealth of the Muslim world comes pouring straight out of the ground. If it didn't, they wouldn't have any. It's pathetic, and it's no wonder the Muslim world is so quick to petulant, childish anger. They must have a very poor self-image, and who can blame them? But they're the only ones who can do anything about it. They can choose to drag themselves into the 21st century and leave this filthy garbage behind, or they can carry on humiliating and degrading themselves with hysterical Jew hatred, and we'll carry on judging them on it as an embarrassment to the human race.
w wman uk

Abingdon, UK

#37395 Dec 2, 2012
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text>
You are dead right.
When i said You, I meant the fool w wman uk.
When you answer we, it is the fool w wman uk who wants to speak on behalf of all other fools.
But because w wman uk is an incompetent fool and his/her argumentation is inexistant or poor at the best, the other fools don't want to have nothing to do with w wman uk.
So w wman uk does not ask them for approval and posts his/her foolish nonsense with the self satisfaction feeling that he/she actually represents the rest of the fools.
Way to go !
What a sad little rant did l push a button.
Timothy Andersen

Bunnlevel, NC

#37396 Dec 2, 2012
Were you born yesterday? You have no idea of what is going on in the Middle East. Israel prevents future attacks and defends when they have been attacked. They are not the terrorists. The Arabs are the ones.
ocxz

La Possession, Reunion

#37397 Dec 2, 2012
Timothy Andersen wrote:
Were you born yesterday? You have no idea of what is going on in the Middle East. Israel prevents future attacks and defends when they have been attacked. They are not the terrorists. The Arabs are the ones.
Yeah i know !

move along people nothing to see here !

Sure.

i am not fooled, and i'm not the only one.
Professor Ayreshire

Albuquerque, NM

#37398 Dec 2, 2012
Here are some facts as to why Muslims like oczx hate the Jewish people: 1. Israel became a state circa 1030 B.C., more than two millennia before Islam.

2. Arabs from Israel first began to be called "Palestinians" in 1967 by Yasser Arafat and other Arab leaders, two decades after modern Israeli statehood.

3. After conquering the land in about 1250 B.C., Jews ruled it for more than 1,300 years and have maintained a continuous presence there for 3,300 years.

4. For over 3,000 years, Jerusalem was the Jewish capital. It was never the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even under Jordanian rule,(East) Jerusalem was not made the capital, and no Arab leader came to visit it.

5. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in the Bible, but not once is it mentioned in the Qur'an.

6. King David founded Jerusalem; Mohammed never set foot in it.

7. Jews pray facing Jerusalem; Muslims face Mecca. If they are between the two cities, Muslims pray facing Mecca, with their backs to Jerusalem.

8. In 1948, Arab leaders urged their people to leave, promising to cleanse the land of Jewish presenceâ€â€some 70% of them fled without ever being ordered by Israel to leave, most of those without ever having seen an Israeli soldier.

9. Virtually the entire Jewish population of Muslim countries had to flee as the result of violence and pogroms.

10. Some 650,000 Arabs left Israel in 1948, while about 850,000 Jews were forced to leave Muslim countries.

11. In spite of the vast territories at their disposal, Arab refugees from Palestine were deliberately prevented from assimilating into their host countries. Of 100 million refugees following World War II, they are the only group to have never integrated with their coreligionists. Most of the Jewish refugees from Europe and Arab lands were settled in Israel, a country no larger than New Jersey.

12. There are 22 Arab countries (with 800 times the land mass of Israel), not counting the Palestinian territories. There is only one Jewish state. Arabs started all five wars against Israel, and lost every one of them.

13. The Fatah and Hamas constitutions still call for the destruction of Israel. Israel has agreed under several proposals to cede most of the West Bank and all of Gaza to the Palestinian Authority, and even supported the arming of its police force after the Oslo Accords in 1993.

14. During the Jordanian occupation, Jewish holy sites were vandalized and were off limits to Jews. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian holy sites are accessible to all faiths and maintained in good order at Israel’s expense.

15. Out of 175 United Nations Security Council resolutions up to 1990, 97 were against Israel; out of 690 General Assembly resolutions, 429 were against Israel;

16. The U.N. was silent when the Jordanians destroyed 58 synagogues in the old city of Jerusalem. It remained silent while Jordan systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives, and it remained silent when Jordan enforced apartheid laws preventing Jews from accessing the Temple Mount and Western Wall
Professor Ayreshire

Albuquerque, NM

#37399 Dec 2, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
I was talking about Islam and its teachings. I did not talk about "present day Muslims".
Here are some facts as why Muslims like MUQ hate the Jewish people: 1. Israel became a state circa 1030 B.C., more than two millennia before Islam.

2. Arabs from Israel first began to be called "Palestinians" in 1967 by Yasser Arafat and other Arab leaders, two decades after modern Israeli statehood.

3. After conquering the land in about 1250 B.C., Jews ruled it for more than 1,300 years and have maintained a continuous presence there for 3,300 years.

4. For over 3,000 years, Jerusalem was the Jewish capital. It was never the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even under Jordanian rule,(East) Jerusalem was not made the capital, and no Arab leader came to visit it.

5. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in the Bible, but not once is it mentioned in the Qur'an.

6. King David founded Jerusalem; Mohammed never set foot in it.

7. Jews pray facing Jerusalem; Muslims face Mecca. If they are between the two cities, Muslims pray facing Mecca, with their backs to Jerusalem.

8. In 1948, Arab leaders urged their people to leave, promising to cleanse the land of Jewish presenceâ€â€some 70% of them fled without ever being ordered by Israel to leave, most of those without ever having seen an Israeli soldier.

9. Virtually the entire Jewish population of Muslim countries had to flee as the result of violence and pogroms.

10. Some 650,000 Arabs left Israel in 1948, while about 850,000 Jews were forced to leave Muslim countries.

11. In spite of the vast territories at their disposal, Arab refugees from Palestine were deliberately prevented from assimilating into their host countries. Of 100 million refugees following World War II, they are the only group to have never integrated with their coreligionists. Most of the Jewish refugees from Europe and Arab lands were settled in Israel, a country no larger than New Jersey.

12. There are 22 Arab countries (with 800 times the land mass of Israel), not counting the Palestinian territories. There is only one Jewish state. Arabs started all five wars against Israel, and lost every one of them.

13. The Fatah and Hamas constitutions still call for the destruction of Israel. Israel has agreed under several proposals to cede most of the West Bank and all of Gaza to the Palestinian Authority, and even supported the arming of its police force after the Oslo Accords in 1993.

14. During the Jordanian occupation, Jewish holy sites were vandalized and were off limits to Jews. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian holy sites are accessible to all faiths and maintained in good order at Israel’s expense.

15. Out of 175 United Nations Security Council resolutions up to 1990, 97 were against Israel; out of 690 General Assembly resolutions, 429 were against Israel;

16. The U.N. was silent when the Jordanians destroyed 58 synagogues in the old city of Jerusalem. It remained silent while Jordan systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives, and it remained silent when Jordan enforced apartheid laws preventing Jews from accessing the Temple Mount and Western Wall
w wman uk

Abingdon, UK

#37400 Dec 2, 2012
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah i know !
move along people nothing to see here !
Sure.
i am not fooled, and i'm not the only one.
Your fooled every time plastic muzi. You should try some argumentation prissy and show some of you inexsistant interlect . Your the fool that deride the grammer and spelling of others. You are a hoot you get made to look more foolish with every post. Its in a mans nature to be a fool sometimes but you abuse the privialidge.
ocxz

La Possession, Reunion

#37401 Dec 2, 2012
w wman uk wrote:
<quoted text> Your fooled every time plastic muzi. You should try some argumentation prissy and show some of you inexsistant interlect . Your the fool that deride the grammer and spelling of others. You are a hoot you get made to look more foolish with every post. Its in a mans nature to be a fool sometimes but you abuse the privialidge.
Is your spell check down again, you sound muslim to me.
Like i said if you don't bother to write coherent words, i guess you are not english.
You must be from the third world.

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