Why I am no longer a white person

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Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#1 Mar 14, 2012
Hate crimes of various sorts appear to be a top story of some sort or another globally on a regular occurrence. So I suppose this thread is relevant to the category, "Top Stories".

I see a lot of remarks here on topix that are intended to divide humanity into groups, over sex, race, gender preferences, nationality, religion, but perhaps the most absurd reason to hate another human being is over differences in skin color.

The color of our skin is based on a pigment called Melanin that determines the lightness or darkness of the skin and another pigment called carotene that determines the intensity of yellow that occurs. And this is of course combined with the red from the blood cells flowing through the lower layers of skin to create the color of the person's skin.

All of us have these same pigments in different ratios, an albino is one that almost completely lacks these pigments. But even an albino can not be considered as white due to the red from the blood being visible in the now translucent skin.

Now these ratios are not in discrete steps as the labels, "white", "black", "red", and "yellow" our language uses to express differences in people's skin color resulting from these variables , but rather, are analog in nature, making the different skin color combinations that are possible infinite. We are like snow flakes in a sense, each of us a unique color, no two of us are alike.

But there are two colors that variations in pigmentation can not produce, white, and black. White and black are not really colors at all. White is all colors combined, and black is the absence of all colors.

We can be categorized as living, breathing entities in general ways, but not by color.

LOVE is the foundation of our existence and is the only reality we all share. When we separate ourselves into imaginary categories to make ourselves better than our neighbors, we create a world just like the one we now have.

That is why I am no longer a white person, nobody is, we never were. We are all colored people in LOVE, it's just that some bigots are in denial of this wonderful reality that we all share!

GOD is LOVE. WE are ALL ONE WITH GOD, even the unloving!
Not Eric Gustafson

San Antonio, TX

#2 Mar 14, 2012
I agree. I hate people because they are stupid, violent, and/or ignorant. Not because of their skin color. I like most white people. Everyone else is suspect because they are probably ignorant, violent, or stupid.

Face it. Racism is not about skin color at all. It is about culture and attitude. And black culture is violent, ignorant, and stupid.

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#3 Mar 14, 2012
Not Eric Gustafson wrote:
I agree. I hate people because they are stupid, violent, and/or ignorant. Not because of their skin color. I like most white people. Everyone else is suspect because they are probably ignorant, violent, or stupid.
Face it. Racism is not about skin color at all. It is about culture and attitude. And black culture is violent, ignorant, and stupid.
Curtis, what are you doing?
Not Eric Gustafson

San Antonio, TX

#4 Mar 14, 2012
Cheriann wrote:
<quoted text>
Curtis, what are you doing?
Hi Sweetie Pie. I'm under cover. Shhhhh.

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#5 Mar 14, 2012
Not Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Sweetie Pie. I'm under cover. Shhhhh.
Oh sorry I did not realise. You will never cease to amase me. You really do make me laugh. Enjoy yourself buddy and have fun.

Since: Oct 09

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#6 Mar 14, 2012
Racism is fear-based. Take away fear, you take away racism. That is how people's true natures are revealed. They can run around flaunting their former muscles, pretending they are the only ones with guns or camo, but their racism gives away their fear everytime
Human being

Hayward, CA

#7 Mar 14, 2012
Not Eric Gustafson said, "Face it. Racism is not about skin color at all. It is about culture and attitude. And black culture is violent, ignorant, and stupid. "

This bigoted knuckle dragger must not be aware of the hard facts about the most violent race on the planet, the Caucasians:

""By conservative estimates, the population of the United states prior to European contact was greater than 12 million. Four centuries later, the count was reduced by 95% to 237 thousand."

"In 1493, when Columbus returned to the Hispaniola, he quickly implemented policies of slavery and mass extermination of the Taino population of the Caribbean. Within three years, five million were dead. Las Casas, the primary historian of the Columbian era, writes of many accounts of the horrors that the Spanish colonists inflicted upon the indigenous population: hanging them en mass, hacking their children into pieces to be used as dog feed, and other horrid cruelties. The works of Las Casas are often omitted from popular American history books and courses because Columbus is considered a hero by many, even today."

"Mass killing did not cease, however, after Columbus departed. Expansion of the European colonies led to similar genocides. "Indian Removal" policy was put into action to clear the land for white settlers. Methods for the removal included slaughter of villages by the military and also biological warfare. High death rates resulted from forced marches to relocate the Indians."

"Genocide entered international law for the first time in 1948; the international community took notice when Europeans (Jews, Poles, and other victims of Nazi Germany) faced cultural extinction. The "Holocaust" of World War II came to be the model of genocide. We, as the human race, must realize, however, that other genocides have occurred. Genocide against many particular groups is still widely happening today. The discrimination of the Native American population is only one example of this ruthless destruction."

from http://www.iearn.org/hgp/aeti/aeti-1997/nativ...

And this does not even take into consideration the many lives lost as Africans were taken as slaves and packed into the holds of ships as cattle and brought to the Americas to serve the need of the bigoted idiotiotic Caucasians who think they are special.

Only a total idiot with his head up his a$$ could be unaware of the hundreds of millions of people slaughtered by the bigoted Caucasian idiots that have the delusion that they are white and special!
GodSmack

Oakland, CA

#8 Mar 14, 2012
Human being wrote:
Not Eric Gustafson said, "Face it. Racism is not about skin color at all. It is about culture and attitude. And black culture is violent, ignorant, and stupid. "
This bigoted knuckle dragger must not be aware of the hard facts about the most violent race on the planet, the Caucasians:
""By conservative estimates, the population of the United states prior to European contact was greater than 12 million. Four centuries later, the count was reduced by 95% to 237 thousand."
"In 1493, when Columbus returned to the Hispaniola, he quickly implemented policies of slavery and mass extermination of the Taino population of the Caribbean. Within three years, five million were dead. Las Casas, the primary historian of the Columbian era, writes of many accounts of the horrors that the Spanish colonists inflicted upon the indigenous population: hanging them en mass, hacking their children into pieces to be used as dog feed, and other horrid cruelties. The works of Las Casas are often omitted from popular American history books and courses because Columbus is considered a hero by many, even today."
"Mass killing did not cease, however, after Columbus departed. Expansion of the European colonies led to similar genocides. "Indian Removal" policy was put into action to clear the land for white settlers. Methods for the removal included slaughter of villages by the military and also biological warfare. High death rates resulted from forced marches to relocate the Indians."
"Genocide entered international law for the first time in 1948; the international community took notice when Europeans (Jews, Poles, and other victims of Nazi Germany) faced cultural extinction. The "Holocaust" of World War II came to be the model of genocide. We, as the human race, must realize, however, that other genocides have occurred. Genocide against many particular groups is still widely happening today. The discrimination of the Native American population is only one example of this ruthless destruction."
from http://www.iearn.org/hgp/aeti/aeti-1997/nativ...
And this does not even take into consideration the many lives lost as Africans were taken as slaves and packed into the holds of ships as cattle and brought to the Americas to serve the need of the bigoted idiotiotic Caucasians who think they are special.
Only a total idiot with his head up his a$$ could be unaware of the hundreds of millions of people slaughtered by the bigoted Caucasian idiots that have the delusion that they are white and special!
YOU are the idiot. As with the large part of society, you have been gulping to much of the Kool aid.

Since: Oct 09

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#9 Mar 14, 2012
and Godsmack is defending his fear
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#10 Mar 14, 2012
No2Reichwing wrote:
and Godsmack is defending his fear
__________

Interesting that you made an assumption that the poster "Godsmack" is a "racist".

Yet, you very conveniently totally omitted the very racist comments which the African American (Descendant of a black American slave) poster "Human being" said about Whites. In his previous post, post #7.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#11 Mar 14, 2012
No2Reichwing wrote:
Racism is fear-based. Take away fear, you take away racism. That is how people's true natures are revealed. They can run around flaunting their former muscles, pretending they are the only ones with guns or camo, but their racism gives away their fear everytime
__________

You are looking at the dynamic of "racism" way, way too simplistically. Way too shortsightedly also.

One of the (If not the most general) definitions of "racism" is this.--- "Racism is the belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race".

For decades, the terms racism & racist have had ideological components. What may be considered racist to someone on the political left wing may not be considered racist to someone on the political Right wing. Vice versa. What may be considered racist to someone on the political Right wing may not be considered racist to someone on the left wing.

From the late 1980s till now, the words racism & racist have been overused & misued by leftists. Primarily by African American (Descendants of black American slaves) leftists & by some White leftists.

This is how the words racism & racist have been overused & misused.--- Whenver anyone doesn't go along with a left wing, pro-afrocentric agenda. Such as supporting slavery reparations, supporting more taxpayer spending for more welfare & other entitlements, opposing mandatory, minimum sentences for drug offenders &/or wanting felons to have the right to vote,

the leftist will call the person a "racist".

In addition, whenever an African American Conservative points out facts, realities & truths, leftists (Primarily African American leftists & some White leftists) will call the African American Conservative an "Uncle Tom, sell out, bootlicker &/or oreo cookie".

Subsequently, the terms racism & racist have been overused & misused by leftists. Primarily by African American leftists & by some White leftists.

Since: Mar 12

Boston, MA

#12 Mar 14, 2012
Human being wrote:
Not Eric Gustafson said, "Face it. Racism is not about skin color at all. It is about culture and attitude. And black culture is violent, ignorant, and stupid. "
This bigoted knuckle dragger must not be aware of the hard facts about the most violent race on the planet, the Caucasians:
""By conservative estimates, the population of the United states prior to European contact was greater than 12 million. Four centuries later, the count was reduced by 95% to 237 thousand."
"In 1493, when Columbus returned to the Hispaniola, he quickly implemented policies of slavery and mass extermination of the Taino population of the Caribbean. Within three years, five million were dead. Las Casas, the primary historian of the Columbian era, writes of many accounts of the horrors that the Spanish colonists inflicted upon the indigenous population: hanging them en mass, hacking their children into pieces to be used as dog feed, and other horrid cruelties. The works of Las Casas are often omitted from popular American history books and courses because Columbus is considered a hero by many, even today."
"Mass killing did not cease, however, after Columbus departed. Expansion of the European colonies led to similar genocides. "Indian Removal" policy was put into action to clear the land for white settlers. Methods for the removal included slaughter of villages by the military and also biological warfare. High death rates resulted from forced marches to relocate the Indians."
"Genocide entered international law for the first time in 1948; the international community took notice when Europeans (Jews, Poles, and other victims of Nazi Germany) faced cultural extinction. The "Holocaust" of World War II came to be the model of genocide. We, as the human race, must realize, however, that other genocides have occurred. Genocide against many particular groups is still widely happening today. The discrimination of the Native American population is only one example of this ruthless destruction."
from http://www.iearn.org/hgp/aeti/aeti-1997/nativ...
And this does not even take into consideration the many lives lost as Africans were taken as slaves and packed into the holds of ships as cattle and brought to the Americas to serve the need of the bigoted idiotiotic Caucasians who think they are special.
Only a total idiot with his head up his a$$ could be unaware of the hundreds of millions of people slaughtered by the bigoted Caucasian idiots that have the delusion that they are white and special!
TRUTH!!!
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#13 Mar 14, 2012
Grandpasmurf952 --- Your points here.--- You said "but perhaps the most absurd reason to hate another human being is over differences is skin color".--- You are looking at the dynamic way too simplistically & shortsightedly.

Skin color is NOT the factor.

An example.--- The phenomenon of "White Flight".---- From the 1960s till now, tens of millions of White-American families fled from the cities to the suburbs.

African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) & some White leftists said that these White-American families were fleeing from African Americans due to their skin color.

African Americans skin color wasn't the factor. Afrian Americans behavior, actions & attitudes was the factor.

These tens of millions of White families were fleeing from African American murders, rapes, gangs, drivebys, carjackings, robberies, burglaries, drug dealing, assaults, thefts, prostitution & pimping.

African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) skin color wasn't the factor. African Americans behavior, actions & attitudes was the factor.

Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#14 Mar 14, 2012
Grandpasmurf952 --- You said "But there are two colors that variations in pigmentation can not produce, white, and black. White and black are not really colors at all. White is all colors combined, and black is the absence of all colors".--- What you are saying here is within the realm of mixing colors.

It sure isn't realistic with the REALITY of "race" throughout the world.

It sure isn't realistic with the reality of race in the United States (US). The reality of the group dynamics, racial dynamics & racial politics in the US.

You said "We can be categorized as living, breathing entities in general ways, but not by color".---- Granted, we are talking about humans here.

But, still & regardless, throughout the entire world people have been & are currently classified according to race. This will remain the case into the future.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#15 Mar 14, 2012
Grandpasmurf952 ---- You said "LOVE is the foundation of our existence and is the only reality we all share. When we separate ourselves into imaginary categories to make ourselves better than our neighbors, we create a world just like the one we now have".---- I do see your angle here.

But (With all due respect), it is especially NOT reality to the group dynamics, racial dymamics & racial politics in the United States (US).

For there to be real, true, genunine harmony, ALL sides must be involved. All sides must be on the exact same page. But, clearly, this isn't the case.

Which entities in the United States (US) are the primary ones who are behind people being categorized & classified according to "race".--- The federal gov't & left wing organizations.

How Americans are classified according to the federal gov't matters.

The main left wing organizations in America which always & constantly looks at people according to race are these.--- American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), National Association Advancement Colored People (NAACP), Operation Rainbow/PUSH, National Action Network (NAN), Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), Nation of Islam (NOI) & the New Black Panther Party (NBPP).

Here are some examples.--- The NAACP organization has been & is currently at the forefront that places of employment MUST keep tab of what race the person is who is applying for a job. Via having it mandatory that the person MUST mark a box which shows what race they are.

In addition, the NAACP has been & is currently at the forefront that schools (Especially colleges, universities) must keep tab of what race the person is who is applying for entry. Via having it mandatory that the person must mark a box which shows what race they are.

Furthermore, left wing African American organizations have been & are currently at the forefront of having African Americans get preferential treatment in the areas of aid, job hiring, set asides, college & university admissions.

One last example to show that race matters.--- From the 1960s till now, the democratic party gave African Americans special privileges, special protections & preferential treatment. The democratic party did this for the African American vote. So that the democratic parties candidates could get elected or re-elected to office.

So, "race" matters in America. This will remain the case into the future.

Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#16 Mar 14, 2012
Human being ---- Your points here.---- You said "By conservative estimates, the population of the United states prior to European contact was greater than 12 million. Four centuries later, the count was reduced by 95% to 237 thousand".--- Uh, the numerical figure which you gave for the population of the United States (US) prior to European contact & for that of four centuries later is VERY highly unlikely.

For instance, just look at the number of African American slaves in the US 4 centuries later. This isn't even taking into account the numbers for White-Americans. Or, the numbers for Native-Americans.

So, the numerical figure which you gave above is VERY highly unlikely.

You said "In 1493, when Columbus returned to the Hispaniola, he quickly implemented policies of slavery and mass extermination of the Taino population of the Caribbean".--- Nope. Colombus & the dudes who were with his ship didn't do any such stuff.

Had they, there is ABSOLUTELY NO way that there would have ever been a Columbus Day in the United States (US).

You said "Within three years, five million were dead".---- These numbers don't add up.

For instance, there is ABSOLUTELY NO way that 5 million people could be neutralized in 3 years. Especially not by a very small number of Europeans.

Another factor which shows that there is absolutely no way that 5 million people could be neutralized in 3 years.---- Especially considering the type of weaponry which existed back then. Swords, spears & very slow loading muskets.

Subsequently, there is absolutely no way that a very small number of Europeans could have neutralized at least 5 million people in 3 years.

Now, there were killing committed in the New World. But, these weren't committed by Columbus or by the dudes who were with his ships.

These killings happened after Columbus & after the dudes who were with his ships. These killings happened as a result of the wars with the Indians. It was war.

You said "The works of Las Casas are often omitted from popular American history books and courses because Columbus is considered a hero by many, even today".---- True, the works of Las Casas are omitted. Not because of Columbus being viewed as a hero.

The works of Las Casas are omitted because what he says in his writings, it doesn't average out. Especially his numerical figures.

Another reason why Las Casas works are omitted in the United States (US).--- The wars in the Caribbean between the Spanish Europeans & Indians didn't entail people who were based in the continental US.

This is another reason why Las Casas works are omitted.

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#17 Mar 14, 2012
Johnny wrote:
Grandpasmurf952 ---- You said "LOVE is the foundation of our existence and is the only reality we all share. When we separate ourselves into imaginary categories to make ourselves better than our neighbors, we create a world just like the one we now have".---- I do see your angle here.
But (With all due respect), it is especially NOT reality to the group dynamics, racial dymamics & racial politics in the United States (US).
For there to be real, true, genunine harmony, ALL sides must be involved. All sides must be on the exact same page. But, clearly, this isn't the case.
Which entities in the United States (US) are the primary ones who are behind people being categorized & classified according to "race".--- The federal gov't & left wing organizations.
How Americans are classified according to the federal gov't matters.
The main left wing organizations in America which always & constantly looks at people according to race are these.--- American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), National Association Advancement Colored People (NAACP), Operation Rainbow/PUSH, National Action Network (NAN), Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), Nation of Islam (NOI) & the New Black Panther Party (NBPP).
Here are some examples.--- The NAACP organization has been & is currently at the forefront that places of employment MUST keep tab of what race the person is who is applying for a job. Via having it mandatory that the person MUST mark a box which shows what race they are.
In addition, the NAACP has been & is currently at the forefront that schools (Especially colleges, universities) must keep tab of what race the person is who is applying for entry. Via having it mandatory that the person must mark a box which shows what race they are.
Furthermore, left wing African American organizations have been & are currently at the forefront of having African Americans get preferential treatment in the areas of aid, job hiring, set asides, college & university admissions.
One last example to show that race matters.--- From the 1960s till now, the democratic party gave African Americans special privileges, special protections & preferential treatment. The democratic party did this for the African American vote. So that the democratic parties candidates could get elected or re-elected to office.
So, "race" matters in America. This will remain the case into the future.
Why don't you focus on the special privilege the Africans had on the ships coming over?

Or the special privileges when they got here like the bull whip?

Or in the case of female slaves being raped by their Christian masters?

And then when slavery was stopped, nothing was done to compensate the people who had been enslaved, nor was anything done to the criminals that enslaved them.

The denial of a fair and proper education to poor minorities is a real issue that right wingers like you try to brush under the rug.

It is not a matter of special privileges, it's an attempt to right a horrible wrong that you can't seem to see.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#18 Mar 14, 2012
Human being --- You said "Mass killing did not cease, however, after Columbus departed".--- The killings happened AFTER Columbus. After the men who were with Columbus' ships departed.

You said "Expansion of the European colonies led to similar genocides. Indian Removal policy was put into action to clear the land for white settlers. Methods for the removal included slaughter of villages by the military and also biological warfare. High death rates resulted from forced marches to relocate the Indians".---

Not slaughter of villages. When the American military undertook ventures back then, they took extreme precaution to avoid civilian casualties.

It was war. Some of the Indian tribes were warring with the White settlers. Other Indian tribes were allies of the Whites.

Way, way before any Whites ever came to this nation, the Native American tribes were engaged in constant, continual warfare among themselves.

In addition, way before any Whites ever came to this nation, this land was way, way less developed.

You said "Genocide entered international law for the first time in 1948;".--- Correct.

You said "the international community took notice when Europeans (Jews, Poles, and other victims of Nazi Germany) faced cultural extinction. The Holocaust of World War II came to be the model of genocide".--- This is debateable.

Due to the actions of the former Soviet Unions left wing communist dictatorship which was headed by Vladimir Lenin & Josef Stalin. Lenin & Stalin genocided tens & tens of millions of more people than what Nazi Germany neutralized.

Another example.--- Chinas former left wing communist dictatorship which was headed by Mao Zedong. This regime was resonsible for the deaths of at least 66 million Chinese. This 66 million figure is not even counting all of the Chinese, South Korean & American deaths due to Chinese army involvement in the Korean War from 1950-1953.

This 66 million figure is not even counting all of the American, North Vietnamese, South Vietnamese, Cambodian & Laotian deaths during the Vietnam War. Due to China supporting the left wing communist North Vietnamese & Viet Cong forces. Supporting the left wing communist guerrillas / terrorists in Cambodia (Khmer Rouge) & Laos (Pathet Lao) during the Vietnam War.

You said "We, as the human race, must realize, however, that other genocides have occurred. Genocide against many particular groups is still widely happening today".--- True.

You said "The discrimination of the Native American population is only one example of this ruthless destruction".--- Nope.

One cannot blame the US federal gov't for this. For many generations, the federal gov't has given A LOT of aid to Native Americans.

The federal gov't allowing the casinos to operate on Native American territory is just one such example.

For many decades now, Native Americans very tragic problems of alcoholism, suicides, truancy from school & dropping out of school is the result of self destructive behaviors from within.

Human being

Hayward, CA

#19 Mar 14, 2012
smallpox infested blankets.

enough said.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#20 Mar 14, 2012
Grandpasmurf952 wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you focus on the special privilege the Africans had on the ships coming over?
Or the special privileges when they got here like the bull whip?
Or in the case of female slaves being raped by their Christian masters?
And then when slavery was stopped, nothing was done to compensate the people who had been enslaved, nor was anything done to the criminals that enslaved them.
The denial of a fair and proper education to poor minorities is a real issue that right wingers like you try to brush under the rug.
It is not a matter of special privileges, it's an attempt to right a horrible wrong that you can't seem to see.
__________

In your above post, you are lumping Americas respective "minority" groups in the same boat. One cannot do that. Because each & every one of Americas minority groups comes from a different history & culture.

Most all, each & every one of Americas minority groups "American experience" is different from the other.

Examples.--- Dominican-Americans come from a different history & culture than African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves). Dominican-Americans "American experience" is different from African Americans "American experience".

Dominican-Americans personal dealings with Americas non-Hispanic White majority has been different. Compared to African Americans personal dealings with Americas non-Hispanic White majority.


Mexican-Americans come from a different history & culture than African Americans. Mexican Americans "American experience" is different from African Americans "American experience". Mexican-Americans personal dealings with Americas non-Hispanic White majority has been different. Compared to African Americans personal dealings with Americas non-Hispanic White majority.

Asian-Americans come from a different history & culture than African Americans. Asian-Americans "American experience" is different from African Americans "American experience". Asian-Americans personal dealings with Americas non-Hispanic White majority has been different. Compared to African Americans personal dealings with Americas non-Hispanic White majority.

In addition, Asian-Americans have been & are currently known as being Americas "model minority".

Black Africans in the United States (Nigerian-Americans, Ghanian-Americans, Senegalese-Americans, Ethiopian-Americans, Eritrean-Americans & Somalian-Americans) are also being called another one of Americas "model minority" groups.

So, one CANNOT lump Americas minority groups in the same boat.

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