Was 911 an Inside Job

Was 911 an Inside Job

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Since: Aug 11

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#2014 Feb 20, 2013
what if wrote:
<quoted text>
what if the perpetrators of the crime were also the ones responsible for hiring the investigators, what do you think the conclusions of the investigations would be? Of course, for you this is nonsense and completely out of the realm of possibility, right?
Not likely given all the different agencies and individuals involved. This scenario given the circumstances is impossible. For example, claims of sophisticated explosive devices would leave behind duds and unused devices. Consider the fact that the exact point of impact would be somewhat unpredictable. What this means is that only points below would be exploded leaving many other devices intact. Nobody has found such devices. Are you saying all the rescue and construction workers were hired by your nefarious puppeteer?

Since: Aug 11

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#2015 Feb 20, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
The logic of desperation fails again.
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According to NIST, thermite couldn't do the jobbity job. How could that pesky gravity alone cause the 110 story buildings to fall down? Especially the one that was not hit by an airplane.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha hha ha ah
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Couldn't Do It Either Huh eh !
What happened to your evidence? Do you have any other than the imaginary thermite?

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#2016 Feb 20, 2013
NIST says there was no thermite.
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Even though they never looked.
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They oughta know, they developed it into the military go to shaped cutter charges in use today. It's all very hush hush.
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You'll just have to take their word for it.
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I know, show me the references. LOL
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Sorry top secret and all that.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha h ah ah ah ah ah ah hahh
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That's A Good One Huh Eh !

Since: Aug 11

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#2017 Feb 20, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
NIST says there was no thermite.
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Even though they never looked.
.
They oughta know, they developed it into the military go to shaped cutter charges in use today. It's all very hush hush.
.
You'll just have to take their word for it.
.
I know, show me the references. LOL
.
Sorry top secret and all that.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha h ah ah ah ah ah ah hahh
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That's A Good One Huh Eh !
None has ever been found by anyone except some bogus dude looking for attention. Sorry, his findings would not be admissible evidence.

Since: Aug 11

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#2018 Feb 20, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
NIST says there was no thermite.
.
Even though they never looked.
.
They oughta know, they developed it into the military go to shaped cutter charges in use today. It's all very hush hush.
.
You'll just have to take their word for it.
.
I know, show me the references. LOL
.
Sorry top secret and all that.
.
Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha h ah ah ah ah ah ah hahh
.
That's A Good One Huh Eh !
Here are a few problems you need to explain.

1. It would take thousands of such devices. Statistically many would fail leaving behind evidence which would be discovered.

2. How would those be place only below where the plane impacted the towers? What would become of those placed above the point of impact?

3. Placing such devices in the right locations would be a highly invasive procedure requiring entering offices with security devices. How could this be done undetected?

4. There is no material evidence that any such devices were used.

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#2019 Feb 20, 2013
because if the government really wanted to do it, they wouldn't just park a couple of trucks packed with explosives in the underground parking garage like in '93 .... instead they used remote controlled planes, thermite,RDX, voice morphing, missiles painted like planes, planes with no windows, mini nukes, and lasers from space .... I guess they never got the memo "keep it simple, stupid"
WasteWater wrote:
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Here are a few problems you need to explain.
1. It would take thousands of such devices. Statistically many would fail leaving behind evidence which would be discovered.
2. How would those be place only below where the plane impacted the towers? What would become of those placed above the point of impact?
3. Placing such devices in the right locations would be a highly invasive procedure requiring entering offices with security devices. How could this be done undetected?
4. There is no material evidence that any such devices were used.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#2020 Feb 20, 2013
If it were so simple RAD even you could see it.
But they made it technical, so people like you would never see it.
I see it even if you can't.
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...
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https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...
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And these people do as well.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TBI29I9...
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As do these...
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...
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But they are all wrong and you and your 7 merry band of shills are the ones that are right eh? I highly doubt that RAD
mind bender

United States

#2021 Feb 20, 2013
Patriot wrote:
CIA officer John Kiriakou imprisoned to protect 9/11 cover-up
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/06/cia-o...
Nice try, at your old tricks again "Timetin".......keep beating a dead horse.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#2022 Feb 20, 2013
That's not me....jtlyk.

But I agree with him

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

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#2023 Feb 20, 2013
Heres the lack of logic from NIST and its mindless supporters.

Thousands of pounds of thermite would be required to weaken the entire building for a total collapse, so we didn't even bother to check.

Yet

You only need to have jet fuel and an office fire to weaken a couple of floors for a total collapse.

This is why

Insults Are Easier

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#2024 Feb 20, 2013
Was it busy at 7/11 today !?!?!?!??!
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Heres the lack of logic from NIST and its mindless supporters.
Thousands of pounds of thermite would be required to weaken the entire building for a total collapse, so we didn't even bother to check.
Yet
You only need to have jet fuel and an office fire to weaken a couple of floors for a total collapse.
This is why
Insults Are Easier

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#2025 Feb 20, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Insults Are Easier wrote, "<quoted text>
finding melted steel would point to controlled demolition."

How wonderfully ironic!

Now there, ladies and gentleman, is a bald faced lie!

I've posted a plethora of examples showing that reports of molten steel is common in fires, yet Ignorance is Bliss chooses to completely ignore that and continue down his twoofy path of attempting to lie his way around it.

Not only that, he incessantly whines about NIST not following the scientific method because they didn't do what he, a scientifically illiterate fool, "thinks" they should have done. Meanwhile he makes a claim with zero scientific support even though the data for such a thing should be readily available...if true.

Here's what the NFPA (I know, government so it's automatically hand waved away by the kooks that can't support thier delusions) says about reports of molten steel;

"NFPA 921

22.3.3 Solid Fuels. Investigators should not interpret the presence of melted metals to be an indicator of the use of an ignitable liquid as an
accelerant, in the belief that only an ignitable liquid can produce
sufficiently high temperatures. Common combustibles and ignitable liquids produce essentially the same flame temperature. Melting temperatures given in handbooks and in this guide are for the pure metal, unless otherwise stated. In many cases, alloys are used rather than the pure metal. The melting temperature of an alloy is generally lower than that of its constituents. The actual composition of a metal part and its melting temperature should be determined before any conclusions are drawn from the fact that it has melted."

Of course this pre-dates September 11 2001 but that only means da ebil gub'ment has been preparing for the attacks for years right?

You feet will be held to the fire over this Ignorance, so you can either admit you lied or start floundering now...just like you did with your lie about steel plating.
Run Ignorance is Bliss, run!

While you're running, support your fallacious claim the molten steel indicates controlled demolition.

Steel plating?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#2026 Feb 20, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
Once again,

"The massive six-alarm blaze caused by a construction accident, melted steel girders"

http://news.google.com/newspapers...

"Fire broke out at a paint warehouse on the city's north side turning the building into a pile of melted steel girders"

http://news.google.com/newspapers...

"A fire of an unknown origin melted steel beams and kept about 100 firemen busy most of Saturday morning"

http://news.google.com/newspapers...

" A raging fire fed by magnesium night illumination flares swept ... thick, choking smoke and flames so hot that they melted steel girders"

http://news.google.com/newspapers...

" One of them said flames reached nearly 60 feet high and melted steel frames"

http://news.google.com/newspapers...

" Fire- swept through the Haunted Castle attraction at the Six Flags ... The search through the melted steel and charred wood continued"

http://news.google.com/newspapers...

" Despite the semitrailer truck crashing into an irrigation canal and catching fire to the point it became a twisted ball of melted steel, the driver was able to escape serious injury, Butler said."

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl...

" Millo said the fire was so intense it melted steel roof beams. Firefighters from Echo Hose, Pine Rock and Huntington fire companies fought the blaze."

http://www.firefightingnews.com/article.cfm...

" Now, much of the place is reduced to piles of charred property and melted steel beams.
More than 400 people lived at Grandview Palace."

http://www.wbng.com/news/local/Former-Browns-...

IF Ignorance is Bliss is correct, THEN his logic must follow that all of these fires were also controlled demolitions since his only qualifier is that reports of molten steel signify the use of incendiaries or high explosives.

Que more bogus qualifiers now!
Run Ignorance!

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

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#2027 Feb 20, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Run Ignorance is Bliss, run!

While you're running, support your fallacious claim the molten steel indicates controlled demolition.

Steel plating?
Well, NIST lead investigator John Gross negligence completely disagrees with you.

http://youtu.be/3SLIzSCt_cg

What a waste of space and water this obsessed Canadian is. Steel did not melt, yes it did, irrelevant, no explosives were found, but various agencies visually inspected it, wendy, steel plating, free fall is not a speed illiterate, John Gross said it, oh, Im still not wrong, elevators, drooling, spammer, but Im a spammer, big success, yet Im here every day, on multiple threads saying the same stuff over and over, RADEKT's fake girlfriend & Wall Street job, Say the truth, no truth, Charlie Sheen's cats.

What a loser this Canadian is.

No pieces could be unambiguously identified as being from WTC 7.

Or

No pieces could be clearly identified as being from WTC 7.

Or

No pieces could be identified as being from WTC 7.

Or

We did not collect any physical evidence from WTC 7.

The NIST Report, as real as RADEKT's girlfriend and jobbity job.

Insults Are Easier

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#2028 Feb 20, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Heres the lack of logic from NIST and its mindless supporters.

Thousands of pounds of thermite would be required to weaken the entire building for a total collapse, so we didn't even bother to check.

Yet

You only need to have jet fuel and an office fire to weaken a couple of floors for a total collapse.

This is why

Insults Are Easier
Corollary: "At the scene of a murder a man lays dead with the blade of a 14" knife sticking squarely out of his heart.

The police have a man in custody who confesses to the crime and the investigators do a thorough search of the area and the victim for wounds.

Enter Ignorance is Bliss wearing a tattered old Superman cape missing the "S", black spandex and holding his trusty broken plastic child's shovel of JUSTICE!

"What happened here?" asks Ignorance.

"This guy (pointing to the man in custody standing near an elevator that can't go up or down) has confessed to stabbing the victim and killing him over a medium slurpee."

"Have you swabbed the body to check for gun powder residue?" Asks Ignorance.

"There's no bullet wound and no gun found at the scene." Replies the investigator.

"COVER UP!" screams Ignorance is Bliss waving his broken plastic shovel of JUSTICE in the air!"
bowling ball

Winchester, KY

#2029 Feb 20, 2013
RADEKT wrote:
Or Zordoze can jump out of a 5 story building and get a first hand look at "Gravity"
<quoted text>
or we can drop a bowling ball on your head and see if it's momentum increases or if it turns to dust.
porkie typing away

Winchester, KY

#2030 Feb 20, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
Corollary: "At the scene of a murder a man lays dead with the blade of a 14" knife sticking squarely out of his heart.
The police have a man in custody who confesses to the crime and the investigators do a thorough search of the area and the victim for wounds.
Enter Ignorance is Bliss wearing a tattered old Superman cape missing the "S", black spandex and holding his trusty broken plastic child's shovel of JUSTICE!
"What happened here?" asks Ignorance.
"This guy (pointing to the man in custody standing near an elevator that can't go up or down) has confessed to stabbing the victim and killing him over a medium slurpee."
"Have you swabbed the body to check for gun powder residue?" Asks Ignorance.
"There's no bullet wound and no gun found at the scene." Replies the investigator.
"COVER UP!" screams Ignorance is Bliss waving his broken plastic shovel of JUSTICE in the air!"
that's a lot of typing for a really lame joke pork. Take the advice of NFL Fanculo next time..."brevity is the soule of wit"

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#2031 Feb 20, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
Corollary: "At the scene of a murder a man lays dead with the blade of a 14" knife sticking squarely out of his heart.
The police have a man in custody who confesses to the crime and the investigators do a thorough search of the area and the victim for wounds.
Enter Ignorance is Bliss wearing a tattered old Superman cape missing the "S", black spandex and holding his trusty broken plastic child's shovel of JUSTICE!
"What happened here?" asks Ignorance.
"This guy (pointing to the man in custody standing near an elevator that can't go up or down) has confessed to stabbing the victim and killing him over a medium slurpee."
"Have you swabbed the body to check for gun powder residue?" Asks Ignorance.
"There's no bullet wound and no gun found at the scene." Replies the investigator.
"COVER UP!" screams Ignorance is Bliss waving his broken plastic shovel of JUSTICE in the air!"
Ok despite everyone's bantering.... This was pretty good!!!
mind bender

United States

#2032 Feb 20, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, NIST lead investigator John Gross negligence completely disagrees with you.
http://youtu.be/3SLIzSCt_cg
What a waste of space and water this obsessed Canadian is. Steel did not melt, yes it did, irrelevant, no explosives were found, but various agencies visually inspected it, wendy, steel plating, free fall is not a speed illiterate, John Gross said it, oh, Im still not wrong, elevators, drooling, spammer, but Im a spammer, big success, yet Im here every day, on multiple threads saying the same stuff over and over, RADEKT's fake girlfriend & Wall Street job, Say the truth, no truth, Charlie Sheen's cats.
What a loser this Canadian is.
No pieces could be unambiguously identified as being from WTC 7.
Or
No pieces could be clearly identified as being from WTC 7.
Or
No pieces could be identified as being from WTC 7.
Or
We did not collect any physical evidence from WTC 7.
The NIST Report, as real as RADEKT's girlfriend and jobbity job.
Insults Are Easier
What's up with the complex zipperhead?
That canuck is more respected than your lame, sick, and demented ass could ever hope to be.....as. for Radekt ....he like myself and porkpie, with a good dose of STT have seen many a freakin whack job come and go......you. have no idea the comic relief you provide.

I don't know who you think your shittin.....but you have but one interest in this charade you present, a freakin. Bozo button and probably. 40 bucks a day to make a complete arse of your lowly soul.

I hope you rot in hell you piece of crap..... and your field trip will be 3000 + innocent folks laying the boots to your slimey ass.
Porkpie, STT, and. Radekt. know goddamn well who this is.......the [email protected] tea party in the harbor 20 clicks from me pales in comparison as to what your ass awaits all by way of mojo shitbag.

Christ almighty I salute you Porkpie,,,,,,Radekt......and STT for the endless hours dealing with these sub human maggots.......you know who this really is.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Didsbury, Canada

#2033 Feb 21, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, NIST lead investigator John Gross negligence completely disagrees with you.
http://youtu.be/3SLIzSCt_cg
What a waste of space and water this obsessed Canadian is. Steel did not melt, yes it did, irrelevant, no explosives were found, but various agencies visually inspected it, wendy, steel plating, free fall is not a speed illiterate, John Gross said it, oh, Im still not wrong, elevators, drooling, spammer, but Im a spammer, big success, yet Im here every day, on multiple threads saying the same stuff over and over, RADEKT's fake girlfriend & Wall Street job, Say the truth, no truth, Charlie Sheen's cats.
What a loser this Canadian is.
No pieces could be unambiguously identified as being from WTC 7.
Or
No pieces could be clearly identified as being from WTC 7.
Or
No pieces could be identified as being from WTC 7.
Or
We did not collect any physical evidence from WTC 7.
The NIST Report, as real as RADEKT's girlfriend and jobbity job.
Insults Are Easier
Translation: "Hi, my name is Ignorace is Bliss and my hobbies are non sequiturs, obfuscation and lying some more!"

John Gross definitely doesn't think "molten steel indicates controlled demolition" and unless you can prove he saw the quote mined crap you morons mindlessly chant, your claim just falls into irrelevancy.

And yes, no pieces could be identified for certain as coming from WTC 7. That would be the building where no one died and twoof still hasn't come up with a coherant explanation as to why anyone would want to destroy by risking exposure IF it were an inside jobbity job.

NIST fulfilled their mandate in studying the initiation of the collapses. All your whining about them not following the scientific method and ignoring what scientifically illiterates putzes like yourself find oh so important is nothing but a smoke screen for your child like need to "fight the man" while chasing ghosts in the machine.

NIST did follow the scientific protocol morons like you completely dismiss by application of your idiotic double standard when it comes time to supporting the crap you believe with religious fervor.

You've avoided addressing everything I've posted, as usual, and you haven't supported your claim that molten steel is an indicator for controlled demolition...nor have you applied one bit of scientific rigor to it.

Here's the skinny lil twoofbot, reports of molten steel are common in fires. Using these reports as support for your delusional bs achieves nothing aside from you confirming your complete and utter inability to apply logic to your beliefs.

Steel plating!

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