Was 911 an Inside Job

Was 911 an Inside Job

Created by inquiring minds on Jan 4, 2013

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Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#1954 Feb 19, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
110 stories fell into a pile 200 feet high, driven only by gravity.
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Oh it fell into the basement and lower levels that were the last to collapse.
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Thousands of degrees recorded months later.
Now that is some jet fuel huffing science, so what!

http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_molten_steel...

As can be seen in the above table, peak measured temperatures exceeded 1300°C in five tests, this measurement being supported by the observation of total heat fluxes of up to 350 kW/m2 and velocities of over 15m/s.

These values are somewhat higher than those observed in typical full-scale compartment fire tests and can be attributed in part to the highly insulating walls, the inclusion of plastic in the fuel and the short residence times (due to high flow rates).
http://projects.bre.co.uk/FRSdiv/ecsc/

Again, ordinary fuels with a little plastic, and the right conditions, yielded high temperatures. And this applied even to the steel itself, where the maximum temperature record in four tests proved to be 1220, 1301, 1245 and 1196 °C (that’s a peak of 2372 °F).
who it be

Monroe, LA

#1955 Feb 19, 2013
YellowPissreality wrote:
oh look, a new sock pretending to be just another average joe new poster from out of the blue. So tell me hhhmm, what brings you here at this hour to join in on this conversation? Are you new to topix and this thread just happened to catch your eye ???
<quoted text>
Interresting. A sock accusing someone of being a sock. Hey, Radekt.

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#1956 Feb 19, 2013
Amazing how you don't get that all that debris and fire turned into an insulated furnace !?!?!?!?!?
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
110 stories fell into a pile 200 feet high, driven only by gravity.
.
Oh it fell into the basement and lower levels that were the last to collapse.
.
Thousands of degrees recorded months later.
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Sounds like a snow job to me. But that's what a Wag The Dog False Flag Black Op is supposed to do right!
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That's why they say deception is the strongest political force on the planet.
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Never was more true than in the case of 9/11.
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TPTB got what they wanted out of it.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha h ah ah ah ah ah
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Funny Joke On Us. Huh Eh !

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#1957 Feb 19, 2013
whatever you say because Insults are Easier
who it be wrote:
<quoted text>
Interresting. A sock accusing someone of being a sock. Hey, Radekt.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#1958 Feb 19, 2013
About 9/11, no FDNY ever said "explosion". Not once in any early interview and not in any later interviews.
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If someone tells you the FDNY claim to have seen or heard "explosions", they are lying and the FDNY is lying to keep their jobs!
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
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That's No Lie, It's A Joke And It's On Us See Huh Eh !
Charlie Sheen

Manchester, KY

#1959 Feb 19, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
About 9/11, no FDNY ever said "explosion".
No FDNY ever said? There is more than one?

Jet Fuel huffing again, Not that's funny!

An NFL Fan

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#1960 Feb 19, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
About 9/11, no FDNY ever said "explosion". Not once in any early interview and not in any later interviews.
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If someone tells you the FDNY claim to have seen or heard "explosions", they are lying and the FDNY is lying to keep their jobs!
.Eh !
Yesterday you accused them all of being liars because of a gag order. Which is it, confused creep?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#1961 Feb 19, 2013
Forgotten faith wrote:
I don't have any answers only 6 million questions.....

So someone explain this please.

The speed of both planes was opposed enough by the buildings structure that they did not decapitate the buildings they just plunged into the sides and stayed like that...!

Granted the materials of a plane are a lot more flimsy than steel and concrete but my question is this...

Clearly going through the side of the building there is less resistance. Right?
So we've got this mass stuck snug into the building. Putting a lot more downward pressure on the structure.

But wouldn't it take a gazzillion more pounds of pressure for that building to be compressed straight down?

It one was one incident and than it was basically stationary.

How would it cause a collapse?

If you stack some blocks karate chop the top ones off and leave your hand ontop of the remaining stack... The stack isnt going to go down unless you apply more pressure and even with that the stack would shoot out to one side.
Basically stationary until enough local failures caused a situation where the still intact load bearing assemblies had reached yield stress.

Creep is an engineering term that describes a condition where a material is placed under stress causing it to deform slowly. The stress may be less than yield for that material but its never the less enough to cause deformation over time.

Heat increases the ductility of a material lowering yield stress and increasing the rate of creep.

This relates to the building collapses such that we know load bearing components were removed by the planes crashing into the buildings and the resulting fires caused a decrease in the remaining load bearing components to bear the static forces of the floors above them.

While the steel was being heated by fire it also was subjected to thermal expansion which transferred energy to the connections between the trusses and the columns (perimeter and core). Yield level stresses on these connections caused local failures which again caused a shifting of load paths the ever decreasing available assemblies.

Once enough lad bearing components had failed and the remaining ones could no longer bear the stress they were under (yield), the system became dynamic resulting in global failure.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#1962 Feb 19, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
110 stories fell into a pile 200 feet high, driven only by gravity.
.
Oh it fell into the basement and lower levels that were the last to collapse.
.
Thousands of degrees recorded months later.
.
Sounds like a snow job to me. But that's what a Wag The Dog False Flag Black Op is supposed to do right!
.
That's why they say deception is the strongest political force on the planet.
.
Never was more true than in the case of 9/11.
.
TPTB got what they wanted out of it.
.
Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha h ah ah ah ah ah
.
Funny Joke On Us. Huh Eh !
Sounds like to you eh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots glop?

But then you thought sealed elevator shafts sounded plausible and never reasoned that by sealing them the elevators would be rendered inoperable.

You also tried to argue against the fire ball being caused by jet fuel by telling a story about when you were knee high to a grassy knoll, you threw a match into a big ol bucket of gas and it didn't light on fire. Therefore jet fuel can't cause a ball of fire.

It's extremely obvious your opinions regarding science are worthless.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#1963 Feb 19, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
About 9/11, no FDNY ever said "explosion". Not once in any early interview and not in any later interviews.
.
If someone tells you the FDNY claim to have seen or heard "explosions", they are lying and the FDNY is lying to keep their jobs!
.
Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
.
That's No Lie, It's A Joke And It's On Us See Huh Eh !
Reports of explosions in fires are common oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots.

Your point is...?

Oh right, you never had one. Just more twoof sanctioned talking points that go absolutely nowhere.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#1964 Feb 19, 2013
All the FDNY who said they saw or heard explosions are liars.
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They have been set straight and will not give interviews about 9/11.
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They are keeping quiet because if they talk about their experiences on 9/11 they will lose their jobs or not be able to trust their fellow FDNY which amounts to a gag order.
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Find me one video or other 9/11 interview with a FDNY or first responder that talks about explosions.
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You can't do it.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
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That's a Good One Huh eh !

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#1965 Feb 19, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
All the FDNY who said they saw or heard explosions are liars.
.
They have been set straight and will not give interviews about 9/11.
.
They are keeping quiet because if they talk about their experiences on 9/11 they will lose their jobs or not be able to trust their fellow FDNY which amounts to a gag order.
.
Find me one video or other 9/11 interview with a FDNY or first responder that talks about explosions.
.
You can't do it.
.
Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
.
That's a Good One Huh eh !
A fireman or paramedic mentions something about explosions on this one...

But not actual sight of them, just the sounds of them.

&fe ature=youtube_gdata_player

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#1966 Feb 19, 2013
Is that what you mean or was it something else?!

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#1967 Feb 19, 2013
The obvious thing about the official story is NIST was never a real investigation to determine what caused the complete destruction of those buildings. It's job was simply to make official the official narrative put forth the first few days of the event.

http://youtu.be/-5y8PtfKA14

Had the government intended NIST to investigate scientifically, it would have carefully saved the evidence until all investigations were complete, and would never have been in a hurry to sell off the steel for recycling.

Who needs evidence when computers can say whatever we want? Paraphrased from Mayor Bloomberg when he responded to 9/11 victim families complaints about the destruction of evidence.

NIST had 236 individual pieces from WTC 1 & 2 to evaluate, none from building 7. So now you know why the government was so worried about trying terrorists in the court system, because courts require evidence, as does credible science. NIST WTC Final Report was not scientific, because it can never be peer reviewed thanks to the destruction of the evidence.

But lets not let NIST tolerate, or investigate, outrageous conspiracy theories.

http://youtu.be/6K5M0xtxQVQ

Canadian liars without character have no problem repeating debunking propaganda that steel melting in fires is common. Steel does not melt by office fires, and it isn't seen flowing like liquid by firemen who are trained to determine what is melting in fires.

http://youtu.be/wcqf5tL887o

You can always tell the brainwashed by the labels they use, so it is no mystery why they disbelieve information that they have already labeled as "twoofer" info. They have no ability to determine truth, other then trusting the authorities that educated them in the first place.

For the indoctrinated who believe they are educated,

Insults Are Easier

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#1968 Feb 19, 2013
Did you actually read this Bull Shit somewhere or did you juust make it up !!?!?!?!?!

because being CLUELESS is so much easier
Insults Are Easier wrote:
The obvious thing about the official story is NIST was never a real investigation to determine what caused the complete destruction of those buildings. It's job was simply to make official the official narrative put forth the first few days of the event.
http://youtu.be/-5y8PtfKA14
Had the government intended NIST to investigate scientifically, it would have carefully saved the evidence until all investigations were complete, and would never have been in a hurry to sell off the steel for recycling.
Who needs evidence when computers can say whatever we want? Paraphrased from Mayor Bloomberg when he responded to 9/11 victim families complaints about the destruction of evidence.
NIST had 236 individual pieces from WTC 1 & 2 to evaluate, none from building 7. So now you know why the government was so worried about trying terrorists in the court system, because courts require evidence, as does credible science. NIST WTC Final Report was not scientific, because it can never be peer reviewed thanks to the destruction of the evidence.
But lets not let NIST tolerate, or investigate, outrageous conspiracy theories.
http://youtu.be/6K5M0xtxQVQ
Canadian liars without character have no problem repeating debunking propaganda that steel melting in fires is common. Steel does not melt by office fires, and it isn't seen flowing like liquid by firemen who are trained to determine what is melting in fires.
http://youtu.be/wcqf5tL887o
You can always tell the brainwashed by the labels they use, so it is no mystery why they disbelieve information that they have already labeled as "twoofer" info. They have no ability to determine truth, other then trusting the authorities that educated them in the first place.
For the indoctrinated who believe they are educated,
Insults Are Easier

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#1969 Feb 19, 2013
RADEKT wrote:
Did you actually read this Bull Shit somewhere or did you juust make it up !!?!?!?!?!
because being CLUELESS is so much easier
<quoted text>
Words to live by from a business major with a minor in small office management. Who plays hockey with FDNY on the weekends and can't ask them about 9/11. They wouldn't tell him the truth anyway.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha h ah ah ah
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That's A Good One Huh Eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#1970 Feb 19, 2013
Forgotten faith wrote:
<quoted text>
A fireman or paramedic mentions something about explosions on this one...
But not actual sight of them, just the sounds of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =5fH7c8H6SNwXX&feature=you tube_gdata_player
Those guys are lying. Go find some more. Bet you can't!
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
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That's A Good One Huh Eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#1971 Feb 19, 2013
Hey pissface can't you keep up?
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Come get your golden shower anytime. I got a gallon of urine in a bucket for you. I promise to let it drip real slow on your cute little pissface.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ah
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That's a Good One Huh eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#1972 Feb 19, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
Now that is some jet fuel huffing science, so what!
http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_molten_steel...
As can be seen in the above table, peak measured temperatures exceeded 1300°C in five tests, this measurement being supported by the observation of total heat fluxes of up to 350 kW/m2 and velocities of over 15m/s.
These values are somewhat higher than those observed in typical full-scale compartment fire tests and can be attributed in part to the highly insulating walls, the inclusion of plastic in the fuel and the short residence times (due to high flow rates).
http://projects.bre.co.uk/FRSdiv/ecsc/
Again, ordinary fuels with a little plastic, and the right conditions, yielded high temperatures. And this applied even to the steel itself, where the maximum temperature record in four tests proved to be 1220, 1301, 1245 and 1196 °C (that’s a peak of 2372 °F).
Correct. Like I said, thousands of degrees for months.
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Did you have a point except to illuminate the obvious?
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Jet Fuel ha ah ah ah ha ha ah ha ha ah ahhhhhhhhhh
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That's A Good One Huh Eh !

Charlie Sheen

Seward, NE

#1973 Feb 19, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct. Like I said, thousands of degrees for months.
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Did you have a point except to illuminate the obvious?
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Jet Fuel ha ah ah ah ha ha ah ha ha ah ahhhhhhhhhh
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That's A Good One Huh Eh !
Blast furnace more or less, what does it prove to you, be specific!

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