Was 911 an Inside Job

Was 911 an Inside Job

Created by inquiring minds on Jan 4, 2013

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Charlie Sheen

Fairbury, NE

#1089 Feb 5, 2013
Bill wrote:
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If you follow the link that I provided that describes design parameters, you will find that the B-707 traveling at top speed, the contingency described in the 1964 tests, will actually impart more kinetic energy than the B-767s that hit the towers.
For that the tests would have had to be the same speed and you forget, the person doing the testing and who wrote the report clearly said no account for fire took part in the model.
Bill

Austin, TX

#1090 Feb 5, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Models are not the event themselves, they are often flawed, it seems in much more modern computer modeling times certain O rings on a space shuttle were supposed to remain functional at low temperatures, I think we all know how that worked out.
Yeah, models are often false, so why did NIST trade the examination of the actual physical building components for their silly model that looks nothing like the demise of the structure that we see in the videos?

That's like a medical examiner ditching a body and then drawing pictures of what he thinks happened and presenting these as his "professional assessment of cause-of-death"...
Charlie Sheen

Fairbury, NE

#1091 Feb 5, 2013
Bill wrote:
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I provided multiple views of WTC-7 dropping, none of which look remotely like the computer-generated cartoon that NIST concocted, based on ZERO physical evidence and an erroneous time-line of active fires.
Yea, but that is because you are a youtube detective looking at one side. Once again here is your *ENTIRE PERIMETER* which clearly did not fall simultaneously.

Not symmetric, not simultaneously, not free-fall.

This evidence supports the NIST contention that the building collapse progressed from the penthouse out as columns weakened by the fires.The slow sinking of the penthouses, indicating the internal collapse of the building behind the visible north wall, took 8.2 seconds according to a NIST preliminary report.

Seismograph trace of the collapse of WTC 7 indicates that parts of the building were hitting the ground for 18 seconds. This means the collapse took at least 18 seconds, of which only the last approximately 15 seconds are visible in videos: 8 seconds for the penthouses and 7 seconds for the north wall to come down.
18 Seconds!
Bill

Austin, TX

#1092 Feb 5, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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More unsubstantiated claims. Why would the leaseholder, Larry Silverstein allow such activity when is would result is substantial losses as well as severe criminal liability to himself and other share-holders? Besides, you have no verifiable evidence to back your nonsensical claim.
I've already linked to the various reports, which include detailed discussions of dust sample provenance, examination techniques, photographs documenting the presence of once-molten iron sprays that are consistent with thermite reaction, pictures and calorimetric analysis of actual advanced thermitic compounds, video of ignition of nanothermitic materials in the dust, reaction products after ignition, etc.

See http://911research.com/essays/thermite/explos...

Larry Silverstein was prepared with a hefty insurance policy in the event of "terrorist attacks." And he collected.
Bill

Austin, TX

#1093 Feb 5, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Yea, but that is because you are a youtube detective looking at one side. Once again here is your *ENTIRE PERIMETER* which clearly did not fall simultaneously.
Not symmetric, not simultaneously, not free-fall.
This evidence supports the NIST contention that the building collapse progressed from the penthouse out as columns weakened by the fires.The slow sinking of the penthouses, indicating the internal collapse of the building behind the visible north wall, took 8.2 seconds according to a NIST preliminary report.
Seismograph trace of the collapse of WTC 7 indicates that parts of the building were hitting the ground for 18 seconds. This means the collapse took at least 18 seconds, of which only the last approximately 15 seconds are visible in videos: 8 seconds for the penthouses and 7 seconds for the north wall to come down.
18 Seconds!
Okay. Let's ignore the free-fall, symmetric collapse of WTC-7 that is evident in the video and pretend that 18 seconds is the magic number.

You think that the unprecedented global failure of this massive 47-story steel-frame structure as a result of fire isn't just a little odd? And the fact that the "investigators" into the failure based their failure analysis on ZERO (0) PERCENT examination of the steel members? And that they also neglected to test for accelerants, as is standard in a severe structural failure, even after FEMA described anomalies in Appendix C of their preliminary report?

(This is a litmus test for shills or, less likely, folks who are hopelessly in denial.)

Anyway, you're on your own.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#1094 Feb 5, 2013
The number you have called can not be completed as dialed.

"Ok honey, I love you too!"

-RADEKT-

The appeal to authority is a failure of logic, as it can be shown members of many organizations are simply fired for disagreeing with doctrine. But the mindless continue to parrot this as gospel truth in the faint hopes enough fluoridated people will arise to champion their cause of ignorance, in and outside of their own national borders.
WasteWater wrote:
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There was no free falling.
NEXT
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>WTC 7 did free fall for about 2.5 seconds.
What the idiots don't bother to point out is that it didn't free fall for the entire collapse and that the collapse time was around 40% longer than free fall.
They continuously try to misrepresent by implying the entire collapse was at free fall.
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>I know that, but nothing free falls without a permit!
What idiots claim is no relevance. Nobody intelligent ever claimed complete free fall regarding 7, only a no-character who must mischaracterize says that it does

The important part of free fall is the building attained it, and thats impossible without explosives.
Bill wrote:
<quoted text>"A careful reading of the NIST report shows that they have no evidence that the temperatures they predict as necessary for failure are corroborated by findings of the little steel debris they have. Why hasn't NIST declared that this spoliation of the steel was a gross error?"

Dr. James Quintiere, former Fire Science Division Chief of NIST, pointing out some of the critical flaws in the NIST report in Congressional testimony.
Isaac Newton wrote:
<quoted text>"Free fall during significant portions of building collapse can only be caused by completely removing resistance, that means explosives. It really makes me roll over in my grave that NIST never chemically studied it."
Bills quote of the NIST Fire Science Chief is very telling... As you brainwashed shills will consistently moan "the experts always say", until you're faced with an expert who exposes your fraud, then you sidestep it with the notion that experts never agree, exposing your hypocrisy.

Double thinking pack of laughing ignorant ghouls who trample on the graves of the victims that were sacrificed for tyranny by condoning lies and faulty investigations. Or as WasteWater would say, "A fun Saturday night".

My apologies for interrupting Bills complete destruction of the shrills.

For people without intelligence or conscious,

Insults Are Easier
Bill

Austin, TX

#1095 Feb 5, 2013
RADEKT wrote:
of course it's providing virtually no resistance the interior framing had mostly collapsed by the time the exterior started moving downward .... there was no resistance for 18 stories or 2.5 seconds
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You state this as if it's fact, when at best it is unsubstantiated speculation based on computer models that don't look like actual event. Not by a long shot.
Bill

Austin, TX

#1096 Feb 5, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
The number you have called can not be completed as dialed.
"Ok honey, I love you too!"
-RADEKT-
The appeal to authority is a failure of logic, as it can be shown members of many organizations are simply fired for disagreeing with doctrine. But the mindless continue to parrot this as gospel truth in the faint hopes enough fluoridated people will arise to champion their cause of ignorance, in and outside of their own national borders.
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What idiots claim is no relevance. Nobody intelligent ever claimed complete free fall regarding 7, only a no-character who must mischaracterize says that it does
The important part of free fall is the building attained it, and thats impossible without explosives.
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Bills quote of the NIST Fire Science Chief is very telling... As you brainwashed shills will consistently moan "the experts always say", until you're faced with an expert who exposes your fraud, then you sidestep it with the notion that experts never agree, exposing your hypocrisy.
Double thinking pack of laughing ignorant ghouls who trample on the graves of the victims that were sacrificed for tyranny by condoning lies and faulty investigations. Or as WasteWater would say, "A fun Saturday night".
My apologies for interrupting Bills complete destruction of the shrills.
For people without intelligence or conscious,
Insults Are Easier
Howdy, and please feel free to take over. I can't say I enjoy feeding the shills...

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#1097 Feb 5, 2013
the models are of the interior support structure not the exterior ..... smarten up
Bill wrote:
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You state this as if it's fact, when at best it is unsubstantiated speculation based on computer models that don't look like actual event. Not by a long shot.

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#1098 Feb 5, 2013
find us a single CD on youtube that comes down at free fall acceleration Moron
Insults Are Easier wrote:
The number you have called can not be completed as dialed.
"Ok honey, I love you too!"
-RADEKT-
The appeal to authority is a failure of logic, as it can be shown members of many organizations are simply fired for disagreeing with doctrine. But the mindless continue to parrot this as gospel truth in the faint hopes enough fluoridated people will arise to champion their cause of ignorance, in and outside of their own national borders.
<quoted text>
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What idiots claim is no relevance. Nobody intelligent ever claimed complete free fall regarding 7, only a no-character who must mischaracterize says that it does
The important part of free fall is the building attained it, and thats impossible without explosives.
<quoted text>
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Bills quote of the NIST Fire Science Chief is very telling... As you brainwashed shills will consistently moan "the experts always say", until you're faced with an expert who exposes your fraud, then you sidestep it with the notion that experts never agree, exposing your hypocrisy.
Double thinking pack of laughing ignorant ghouls who trample on the graves of the victims that were sacrificed for tyranny by condoning lies and faulty investigations. Or as WasteWater would say, "A fun Saturday night".
My apologies for interrupting Bills complete destruction of the shrills.
For people without intelligence or conscious,
Insults Are Easier

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#1099 Feb 5, 2013
Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
Howdy, and please feel free to take over. I can't say I enjoy feeding the shills...
Its a noble and horrible endeavor that requires much endurance to even remember reason after dealing with the unreasonable "self proclaimed majority of laughers", who never seem to be right.

I'm convinced they must be poorly paid because I refuse to believe people can actually be this stupid unintentionally. I mean really, a Logic less Moses, Upitty Canadian, and Obsessive Tunabot and a Chic in Kansas? I don't believe they exist like Manti Teo's girlfriend or the ethical standards at NIST, the FBI, and any government agency that contributed to this farce of investigations.

Im pretty much to the point that I would believe 9/11 was an inside job, even if the buildings didn't symmetrically, completely collapse and NIST did a proper investigation, just on the behavior and thinking ability of the shrills who attempt to say it wasn't.

See that bird? Wait till he takes off from the roof of Building 7 before you should start timing the roofline collapse... He was a load bearing bird.

-NIST-

Bill does a great job cutting straight to the heart of the official lie, compared to me, he 's Galileo, not this guy.

http://youtu.be/IMKyfJ6xGUM

So be ready, my Free fall is not a speed remix by Gross Negligence should be available shortly.

Until then,

Insults Are Easier

“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#1100 Feb 5, 2013
Bill wrote:
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Howdy, and please feel free to take over. I can't say I enjoy feeding the shills...
Then stop posting the same old debunked shite...
Pesley Wipes

United States

#1101 Feb 6, 2013
RADEKT wrote:
why don't you stop whining like a little bitch !?!?!?!?
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Somebody please put something in this b-tches mouth, my zipper's stuck.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#1102 Feb 6, 2013
Bill wrote:
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And that they also neglected to test for accelerants, as is standard in a severe structural failure, even after FEMA described anomalies in Appendix C of their preliminary report?
YAWN!

Did investigators consider the possibility that an explosion caused or contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?

Yes, this possibility was investigated carefully. NIST concluded that blast events inside the building did not occur and found no evidence supporting the existence of a blast event.

In addition, no blast sounds were heard on the audio tracks of video recordings during the collapse of WTC 7 or reported by witnesses. According to calculations by the investigation team, the smallest blast capable of failing the building's critical column would have resulted in a sound level of 130 decibels (dB) to 140 dB at a distance of at least half a mile, if unobstructed by surrounding buildings. This sound level is consistent with a gunshot blast, standing next to a jet plane engine, and more than 10 times louder than being in front of the speakers at a rock concert.

For the building to have been prepared for intentional demolition, walls and/or column enclosures and fireproofing would have to be removed and replaced without being detected. Preparing a column includes steps such as cutting sections with torches, which produces noxious and odorous fumes. Intentional demolition usually requires applying explosive charges to most, if not all, interior columns, not just one or a limited set of columns in a building.
Is it possible that thermite or thermate contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?

NIST has looked at the application and use of thermite and has determined that its use to sever columns in WTC 7 on 9/11/01 was unlikely.

Thermite is a combination of aluminum powder and a metal oxide that releases a tremendous amount of heat when ignited. It is typically used to weld railroad rails together by melting a small quantity of steel and pouring the melted steel into a form between the two rails.

To apply thermite to a large steel column, approximately 0.13 lb of thermite would be needed to heat and melt each pound of steel. For a steel column that weighs approximately 1,000 lbs. per foot, at least 100 lbs. of thermite would need to be placed around the column, ignited, and remain in contact with the vertical steel surface as the thermite reaction took place. This is for one column . presumably, more than one column would have been prepared with thermite, if this approach were to be used.

It is unlikely that 100 lbs. of thermite, or more, could have been carried into WTC 7 and placed around columns without being detected, either prior to Sept. 11 or during that day.

http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/factsheet/...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#1103 Feb 6, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Its a noble and horrible endeavor that requires much endurance to even remember reason after dealing with the unreasonable "self proclaimed majority of laughers", who never seem to be right.
Yea, That plated steel and 20 pilots who could not fly were a laugh riot.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#1104 Feb 6, 2013
Bill wrote:
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See http://911research.com/essays/thermite/explos...
Larry Silverstein was prepared with a hefty insurance policy in the event of "terrorist attacks." And he collected.
He's lost millions, he's still paying rent on something that produces no revenue just for starters, and he was under-insured, so much so that his board made him up the policy (still did not cover the cost of the building).

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#1105 Feb 6, 2013
is that why you always piss in your pants !?!?!?!?!?
Pesley Wipes wrote:
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Somebody please put something in this b-tches mouth, my zipper's stuck.

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#1106 Feb 6, 2013
and prior to 9/11 there was no "terrorism insurance", terrorist acts were covered under the general policy
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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He's lost millions, he's still paying rent on something that produces no revenue just for starters, and he was under-insured, so much so that his board made him up the policy (still did not cover the cost of the building).
Pesley Wipes

United States

#1107 Feb 6, 2013
RADEKT wrote:
is that why you always piss in your pants !?!?!?!?!?
<quoted text>
No, but your mother enjoys my golden showers.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#1109 Feb 6, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Au contraire I was wrong again. Silverstein actually made millions off of his small part in the 9/11 plot and is doing quite well these days. His place in history is assured.
Show your math fake Chuck!

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