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Was 911 an Inside Job

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Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#857 Feb 2, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Really, you appear to be incapable of honesty or comprehension.
LOL, How would you know, you can't see my poker face!

PS: Show me one place I have been dishonest, I have never, ever claimed you had a functioning IQ!

Since: May 10

YOUR MOM'S HOUSE

#858 Feb 2, 2013
just let us know when you get accepted to Cornell or MIT ... AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAAA AAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAH! !!
Guise Faux wrote:
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Pissface (aka golden showers) you certainly didn't get through 5th grade spelling.
Oh pissface get someone to give you another golden shower OK

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#859 Feb 2, 2013
Bill wrote:
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I offer you absolute, incontrovertible proof of the involvement of a federal agency in the Executive branch, namely NIST, in the cover-up phase of the 9/11 false flag operation. The cover-up is as essential to the operation as the planning and execution.
Once again, the evidence:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =LD06SAf0p9AXX
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Proof?

LMAO

Since: Dec 09

Cleveland, TN

#860 Feb 2, 2013
I can't say for sure who exactly pulled off what. But what I can say is that there are a lot of interesting questions that remained unanswered. None of the explanations really make sense, especially regarding WTC7.

It's easy to believe that surely such a large scale event couldn't be pulled off and swept under the rug, so many of us so convincingly lied to. But it's also just as easy to hear and believe a story that you don't take the time to really look into.

My biggest question for people who instantly, and without question, dismiss any idea of a conspiracy, is whether you've looked at the OTHER 2 planes at all. If you look at photos of the pentagon, and where flight 93 crashed in Penn., and believe people who say the planes just vaporized, then the story is believable I guess.

But aside from viewing superimposed jetliner pictures, and listening to details about what any amount of jet fuel can and can't do to steel, if you actually look at multiple pictures of those 2 sites, and pictures of any other large aircraft crash in history, they look absolutely nothing alike. If nobody told you a jumbo jet crashed in Penn. or the pentagon, nobody in the world would look at those sites and suggest that's what happened.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#861 Feb 3, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
Like she said the fox guarding the hen house... Who do you think makes up those reports? Hint their own auditors.
Like OJ being his own judge and jury.
Of course he will plead not guilty.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#862 Feb 3, 2013
Like (he) said the fox guarding the hen house...
Just in case...

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#863 Feb 3, 2013
MarkD_ wrote:
I can't say for sure who exactly pulled off what. But what I can say is that there are a lot of interesting questions that remained unanswered. None of the explanations really make sense, especially regarding WTC7.
Agreed MarkD....
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...
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About the planes
.https://sites.google.com/site /911whatyoumighthavemissed/hom e/pentagon/the-planes/other-pl ane-crashes
Pentagon
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...
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Who lied.
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#864 Feb 3, 2013
Guise Faux

San Anselmo, CA

#865 Feb 3, 2013
Eyewitness: Interviews with 9/11 responders

by TomFontaine December 30, 2012 11:00 AM EST
1. Some of the supposed hijackers turned up alive after 911. Mistaken identity was said. Then why are the mistakes still on the pictures lineup?

2. No credible security camera footage of 19 men boarding the planes, just a few blurry ones of 2 or three.

3. No 757 wreckage at the Pentagon. at least none to speak of.

4. Same goes for flight 93

5. Reason to go to war.... was that OBL was behind 911...Later it was said he was not wanted for 911.

6. Bldg 7 falls into its own footprint because of a few small fires.

7. Both NIST and the 911 Commission have lies within their pages.

8. Explosions heard by many, before and during the collapse, from sub level areas

9. Operation Northwoods was a written confession detailing that the govt. is fully capable of engaging a 911 scenario.

10. Israels Mossad had people on the ground in NY celebrating the crash while filming it.

11. Bush lied about WMD's in Iraq, just so he could override the UN's protocols for going to war. He also lied about seeing the first plane crash on the schools TV

12. Motive ..... to secure oil reserves for the future, being that if the US runs out of oil it is dead on the ground and will fall.

13. What was burning in the sub level areas of the WTC for months after the collapse? Molten metals have to have a relative heat source to retain the state of molten, or even cherry red.

14.Why no intel about what that molten material was when they reached the final salvage clean up days?

15.Where's the many roof top cameras footage and heliport footage from the Pentagon?

An old saying goes "better a few should be sacrificed for the well being of the majority.

There are too many unanswered Q's and false impressions of the 9/11 story.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8601-504803_162-201040...

more...

https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...
Bill

Austin, TX

#866 Feb 3, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Yes, You claim remote control, A Aviation Maintenance Technician/Avionics Technician explains why it is impossible in a 25 technical paper with schematics why it cant be done AND THAT IS YOUR REBUTTAL, LMFAO!
http://www.911myths.com/Remote_Takeover.pdf
As I've stated repeatedly, demolition at the World Trade Center is PROVEN, and that *COMPLETELY* undermines the official 9/11 narrative.

There is also quite a bit of evidence that the targeted areas in the Pentagon and World Trade Center Towers were specifically selected for their value in destroying evidence of financial crimes (i.e. the budget analyst's office in the Pentagon, inside the otherwise lightly populated Wedge 1 of the Pentagon), and so the possibility of remote control or automated flight seems much more probable than the conspirators' reliance on a bunch of bad pilots.

I read through the paper you link to, and the author makes a lot of assumptions. Chief among those assumptions and repeated frequently is the alleged ease with which a flight crew could over-ride any attempts at remote or automated flight.

But if you will recall, NONE of the flight crews on September 11, 2001, managed to type in a simple hijack transponder code! If NONE of the the 9/11 flight crews can manage that simple protocol, what basis does this paper's author have for believing that the crews were able to go through various possible override procedures? It appears that they were disabled from the very start of the operation.
Bill

Austin, TX

#867 Feb 3, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Proof?
LMAO
That post was aimed at reasonably bright folks who have the ability to discern the significance of symmetric free-fall drop of the roof-line of the steel-frame building in the video.

Your "LMAO" reaction is more a function of your cognitive shortcomings...
Bill

Austin, TX

#868 Feb 3, 2013
YellowPissreality wrote:
Dr. S. Shyam Sunder
Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Sc.D., Structural Engineering, 1981
Massachusetts Institute of Technology, S.M., Civil Engineering, 1979
Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi, B. Tech.,(Honors), Civil Engineering, 1977
Dr. John L. Gross
Cornell University, Ph.D., Civil (Structural) Engineering, 1980
Cornell University, M.E., Civil (Structural) Engineering, 1970
Cornell University, B.S., Civil (Structural) Engineering, 1969
WHAT ARE YOUR EDUCARIONAL CREDENTIALS BILLY !?!?!?!?
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Well, "Yellow Piss," my educational credentials include (but aren't limited to) doing well in a high school physics class. And one doesn't even need that necessarily to see through the feeble official deception.

If there was any justice in the world, both Dr. Sunder and Dr. Gross would soon have the following additional lines on their curriculum vitae:

convicted felon, 2013
Resident, Camp Echo, Guantanamo Bay Detention Facility, 2013 - life
Bill

Austin, TX

#869 Feb 3, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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That was what was claimed to have been found.
In summary, red/gray chips with the same morphological characteristics, elemental spectra and magnetic attraction as those shown in Harrit et al.1 were found in WTC dust samples from four different locations than those examined by Harrit, et al.1 The gray side is consistent with carbon steel. The red side contains the elements: C, O, Al, Si, and Fe with small amounts of other elements such as Ti and Ca. Based on the infrared absorption (FTIR) data, the C/O matrix material is an epoxy resin. Based on the optical and electron microscopy data, the Fe/O particles are an iron oxide pigment consisting of crystalline grains in the 100-200 nm range and the Al/Si particles are kaolin clay plates that are less than a micrometer thick. There is no evidence of individual elemental aluminum particles detected by PLM, SEM-EDS, or TEM-SAED-EDS, during the analyses of the red layers in their original form or after sample preparation by ashing, thin sectioning or following MEK treatment.
http://aneta.org/911experiments_com/millette/...
Why are you linking to Millette's "progress report" and not the "ACTIVE THERMITIC MATERIAL DISCOVERED IN DUST FROM THE 9/11 WORLD TRADE CENTER CATASTROPHE" paper by Harrit, Jones, Ryan, etc.?

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php...

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#870 Feb 3, 2013
A Little Known Fact About the 9/11 Planes
Anthony Lawson for Salem-News.com
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Another seriously undeniable flaw in the 'official' 9/11 story.
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(BANGKOK)- Extract:...it would be a remarkable irony, and quite possibly a unique circumstance in the annals of American jurisprudence, if the assumptions used as reasons for launching wars against two sovereign nations, as well as the more generalised 'War on Terror' would not stand up as evidence in either a criminal prosecution or a civil damages suit in an American court of law.
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It is not a theory but a fact—one that is well known within the 9/11 truth movement—that the 9/11 Commission failed to ensure that at least one of the appropriate government agencies: the NTSB, the FBI or the FAA was commissioned to positively identify the aircraft which were allegedly involved in the murders of nearly 3,000 people, on September 11, 2001.
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One does not need to be a Harvard Law School graduate to know that the first and most important requirement in any murder investigation is to determine the cause of death, which often leads to a requirement to identify, and trace to its origins, a murder weapon, or, in the case of 9/11: weapons.
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And there can be no doubt that each of the four planes which were allegedly hijacked on the morning 9/11 was posited as being a murder weapon, by the U.S. administration and the 9/11 Commission, yet there is absolutely nothing which firmly connects the four allegedly-hijacked planes to any of the 9/11 crash sites.
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In fact it is not fanciful to suggest that if a lawyer, even of a far lower calibre than that of an Alan Dershowitz, were engaged to defend the airport security companies that allegedly allowed 19 box-cutter-carrying Arabs to get onto those planes, he would immediately call for the dismissal of such an action on the grounds that the planes which allegedly hit the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and the one which crashed near Shanksville had never been forensically identified as the planes which, allegedly, had been hijacked that morning.
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And such a motion could not possibly be denied, as I will explain.
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The planes in question were alleged to have been:
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American Airlines flight 11 (Tail Number: N334AA), North Tower;
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United Airlines flight 175 (N612UA), South Tower;
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American Airlines flight 77 (N644AA), the Pentagon, and United Airlines flight 93 (N591UA), which supposedly crashed near Shanksville, Pennsylvania. But the truth is that they could well have been different planes that had arrived on the scenes from quite different locations, because the crash debris recovered from those four crash sites has never been forensically linked to the planes that allegedly took off from Logan International, Boston; Dulles International, Washington and Newark International, New Jersey, and which were, allegedly, hijacked shortly thereafter.
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Therefore they cannot possibly be linked, without a reasonable doubt, to breaches of security at those airports.
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http://www.salem-news.com/articles/march18201...
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One of the reasons 9/11 debwunkers give for the government investigators not identifying the planes in question is that they already knew what planes crashed into the WTC 1 & 2 and the Pentagon and therefore they did not need to be positively identified.
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This is preposterous. All aircraft crashes, criminal or accidental are thoroughly and routinely investigated through matching of serial numbered parts back to the planes maintenance and other records.
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The government simply decided not to do this in the 9/11 incident that eventually killed more than 3,000 innocent people.
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The fox is guarding the henhouse here folks.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha ah ah ah ha a
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That’s A Good One Huh EH !
Bill

Austin, TX

#871 Feb 3, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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You don't count part of the building decent in calling it freefall. If all columns were severed at the same time the penthouse would not have collapsed through the roof first.
Any thoughts on remote controlled planes and a those comments by an expert?
Okay, pay attention, Strawman Charlie. Here it is:

I claim -- and the videos show -- that the *ROOF-LINE* suddenly and symmetrically dropped at free-fall acceleration. The penthouse is *NOT* the roof-line. I'm not claiming that all columns failed simultaneously. I'm claiming that the *PERIMETER* failed simultaneously. Recall that this very large, 47-story steel frame building had the foot-print approximately the size of a football field, so for the entire, structurally redundant *PERIMETER* to fail simultaneously would require a great deal of planning. Simultaneous *PERIMETER* failure is a prerequisite to what is clearly evident in the videos of the demise of WTC-7 -- namely, the free-fall, symmetric descent of the *ROOF-LINE.*

Is that clear enough for you?



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Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#872 Feb 3, 2013
BORING.....Yawn.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#873 Feb 3, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
BORING.....Yawn.
Go back to bed wasted water.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#874 Feb 3, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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Go back to bed wasted water.
Good idea.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#875 Feb 3, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Lunacy is actually calling for people to be mentally evaluated for expressing logic and sense about physics by a person who claims controlled demolitions mimic accidental collapses and design flaws.
You don't even know the physics behind a CD, yet you label people crazy for stating basic scientific principles of physics? How crazy is that?
Rhetorical, because you can't answer that, all you can do is insult.
Compared to physics,
Insults Are Easier
Sweetie, one does not need a degree in physics to understand the concept of a controlled demolition and how they function. You have yet to prove the one or more you seem to believe in to even be necessary on 9/11, let alone to have actually occurred. You give us traces of theoretically existing explosives that no one else can seem to find and an ambiguous unproven plot involving a cast and crew bigger than Ben Hur as "proof" and yet you wonder why I question your sanity? I'm just being honest hon, you come off like a kook in a tin foil hat, passing eccentric and camping in downtown crazy with computer access and an inability to discern fact from fantasy.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#876 Feb 3, 2013
Bill wrote:
I offer you absolute, incontrovertible proof of the involvement of a federal agency in the Executive branch, namely NIST, in the cover-up phase of the 9/11 false flag operation. The cover-up is as essential to the operation as the planning and execution.
Once again, the evidence:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =LD06SAf0p9AXX
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Sorry sweetie, all I still see is non-flimsy incontrovertible proof of you needing help and I don't think it's just me. Prove to me what you say is happening in that 9 seconds is actually what is happening in that 9 seconds and you might have something, but all you have offered thus far is clear proof of you being crazy.

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