Was 911 an Inside Job

Was 911 an Inside Job

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#819 Feb 1, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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Darn ! I was hornswoggled, taken for a ride, I got snookered! It was a glitch, a mistake, a major malfunction, it wasn't my fault, you can pin this on me but like shit happens man ! I won't take the rap for this, you can't make me.
A friend sent it to me without checking and I didn't check it out either. So shoot me huh!
What a good example of govie SPIN. God it was good!
Thanks for the heads up, I do better next time.
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Oh well.....
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha h ah ah
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That's As Funny As A Good Insult Huh EH !
Gloop?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#820 Feb 2, 2013
Bill wrote:
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Automated flight management systems are not electronic? Are there little mice in the "auto-pilot" consoles, operating levers and running on treadmills?
Yawn, No, you would have to install them!

http://www.911myths.com/Remote_Takeover.pdf

Debunk away!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#821 Feb 2, 2013
Bill wrote:
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I offer you absolute, incontrovertible proof of the involvement of a federal agency in the Executive branch, namely NIST, in the cover-up phase of the 9/11 false flag operation. The cover-up is as essential to the operation as the planning and execution.
Once again, the evidence:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =LD06SAf0p9AXX
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The fact 7 fell in a 10 second video? LOL?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#822 Feb 2, 2013
Bill wrote:
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You can call it paint if you want, but it's explosive! Recall the "large, narrow exotherms" in the calorimeter tests that rival conventional explosive material. If that is "paint," then perhaps we have a major public safety issue on hand. And law suits.
The levels of many of the elements are consistent with their presence in building materials, including chromium, magnesium, manganese, aluminum, and barium. The very high levels of titanium (> 0.1%) were due to their presence in paint, especially white paint. The lead levels are elevated due to the use of lead-based paint on metallic surfaces during construction of the building. The detected lead dust concentrations were lower than would be found outdoors in older cities affected by tailpipe emissions from leaded gasoline.

The total element compositions of the dust samples reflect the chemical makeup of materials such as: glass fibers (containing silicon, aluminum, calcium, magnesium, sodium, and other elements); gypsum (containing calcium and sulfate); concrete and aggregate (containing calcium and aluminum hydroxides, and a variety of silicate minerals containing silicon, calcium, potassium, sodium, and magnesium); particles rich in iron, aluminum, titanium, and other metals that might be used in building construction; and particles of other components, such as computers, etc. Organic carbon in the dusts is most likely from paper, wallboard binder, and other organic materials.

The trace metal compositions of the dust and girder coatings likely reflect contributions of material from a wide variety of sources. Possibilities include metals that might be found as pigments in paints (such as titanium, molybdenum, lead, and iron), or metals that occur as traces in, or as major components of, wallboard, concrete, aggregate, copper piping, electrical wiring, and computer equipment. Further detailed SEM studies of dust and beam coating samples are needed to develop a better understanding of the residences of metals in the samples. A detailed review of the materials used in construction, and the elemental composition of materials commonly found in office buildings would also be useful to understand more completely the potential sources and compositions of the materials in the dusts.
http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/chem...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#823 Feb 2, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Nobodies perfect doc, and it did sound reasonable knowing how politicians generally operate.
Is this science through poker faces again?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#824 Feb 2, 2013
Bill wrote:
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You can call it paint if you want, but it's explosive! Recall the "large, narrow exotherms" in the calorimeter tests that rival conventional explosive material. If that is "paint," then perhaps we have a major public safety issue on hand. And law suits.
Barium Nitrate is more prevalent in thermite than anything found, why is it missing?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#825 Feb 2, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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A friend sent it to me without checking and I didn't check it out either. So shoot me huh!
What a good example of govie SPIN. God it was good!
Sort of like the fake 20 pilots, the plated steel, the idea that jet fuel was responsible for the collapse.

So how was that govie spin?
Bill

Austin, TX

#826 Feb 2, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Yawn, No, you would have to install them!
http://www.911myths.com/Remote_Takeover.pdf
Debunk away!
I'll take my planes without the rodents on treadmills, thanks!

(Debunked!)
Bill

Austin, TX

#827 Feb 2, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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The fact 7 fell in a 10 second video? LOL?
That fact that the roof-line of WTC-7 fell symmetrically at free-fall acceleration, as that 10 second video clearly shows, coupled with the attempt by the NIST clowns to deny that FACT that we can all see with report that (they hoped) no one would read.

I want to see these NIST "experts"/co-conspir ators Shyam Sunder and John Gross repeat the following performances and oath:


http://www.youtube.com/watch...

(I bet John Gross would implode in under 7 seconds...)
Bill

Austin, TX

#828 Feb 2, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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The levels of many of the elements are consistent with their presence in building materials, including chromium, magnesium, manganese, aluminum, and barium. The very high levels of titanium (> 0.1%) were due to their presence in paint, especially white paint. The lead levels are elevated due to the use of lead-based paint on metallic surfaces during construction of the building. The detected lead dust concentrations were lower than would be found outdoors in older cities affected by tailpipe emissions from leaded gasoline.
The total element compositions of the dust samples reflect the chemical makeup of materials such as: glass fibers (containing silicon, aluminum, calcium, magnesium, sodium, and other elements); gypsum (containing calcium and sulfate); concrete and aggregate (containing calcium and aluminum hydroxides, and a variety of silicate minerals containing silicon, calcium, potassium, sodium, and magnesium); particles rich in iron, aluminum, titanium, and other metals that might be used in building construction; and particles of other components, such as computers, etc. Organic carbon in the dusts is most likely from paper, wallboard binder, and other organic materials.
The trace metal compositions of the dust and girder coatings likely reflect contributions of material from a wide variety of sources. Possibilities include metals that might be found as pigments in paints (such as titanium, molybdenum, lead, and iron), or metals that occur as traces in, or as major components of, wallboard, concrete, aggregate, copper piping, electrical wiring, and computer equipment. Further detailed SEM studies of dust and beam coating samples are needed to develop a better understanding of the residences of metals in the samples. A detailed review of the materials used in construction, and the elemental composition of materials commonly found in office buildings would also be useful to understand more completely the potential sources and compositions of the materials in the dusts.
http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/chem...
Can you focus on the calorimeter tests and/or combustion products of the "paint", please? It's a beautiful day outside, and I'm not going to spend my valuable time responding to spam when you are so obviously not making an honest attempt to reply.
Bill

Austin, TX

#829 Feb 2, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Barium Nitrate is more prevalent in thermite than anything found, why is it missing?
Barium nitrate? Where did you get that?!

(Also, look at that ten second video... roof-line, dropping symmetrically at free-fall acceleration in what could best be described as a perfect building implosion. Period.)
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#830 Feb 2, 2013
Bill wrote:
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That fact that the roof-line of WTC-7 fell symmetrically at free-fall acceleration, as that 10 second video clearly shows,
Not free-fall as this one clearly shows!

Not symmetrical!

Bill

Austin, TX

#831 Feb 2, 2013
Bill wrote:
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That fact that the roof-line of WTC-7 fell symmetrically at free-fall acceleration, as that 10 second video clearly shows, coupled with the attempt by the NIST clowns to deny that FACT that we can all see with report that (they hoped) no one would read.
I want to see these NIST "experts"/co-conspir ators Shyam Sunder and John Gross repeat the following performances and oath:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =mtRlOVymmz8XX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
(I bet John Gross would implode in under 7 seconds...)
Should be "I want to see these NIST "experts"/co-conspir ators Shyam Sunder and John Gross repeat the following performances *UNDER* oath...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#832 Feb 2, 2013
Bill wrote:
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I'll take my planes without the rodents on treadmills, thanks!
(Debunked!)
Yes, We get it, what a sharp debunking of this paper!

http://www.911myths.com/Remote_Takeover.pdf
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#833 Feb 2, 2013
Bill wrote:
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Barium nitrate? Where did you get that?!
Thermate is a high-level thermite analog containing sulfur developed by the military (see http://www.dodtechmatch.com/DOD/Patent/Patent... ). Thermate combines aluminum/iron oxide (thermite) with barium nitrate (29%) and sulfur (typically 2% although more sulfur could be added). The thermate reaction proceeds rapidly and is much faster than thermite in degrading steel leading to structural failure. Thus, both the unusually high temperatures and the extraordinary observation of steel-sulfidation (Barnett, 2001) can be accounted for -- if the use of thermate is allowed in the discussion. Note that other oxidizers (like KMnO4) and metals (like titanium and silicon) are commonly used in thermite analogs.
Source

Given that Jones appears to accept as reasonable that the 2% of sulfur has left a detectable trace on his sample, he must surely also have discovered the byproducts of Barium Nitrate, which is present in much larger quantities. And yet, there’s no mention of this at all.
Bill

Austin, TX

#834 Feb 2, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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The levels of many of the elements are consistent with their presence in building materials, including chromium, magnesium, manganese, aluminum, and barium. The very high levels of titanium (> 0.1%) were due to their presence in paint, especially white paint. The lead levels are elevated due to the use of lead-based paint on metallic surfaces during construction of the building. The detected lead dust concentrations were lower than would be found outdoors in older cities affected by tailpipe emissions from leaded gasoline.
The total element compositions of the dust samples reflect the chemical makeup of materials such as: glass fibers (containing silicon, aluminum, calcium, magnesium, sodium, and other elements); gypsum (containing calcium and sulfate); concrete and aggregate (containing calcium and aluminum hydroxides, and a variety of silicate minerals containing silicon, calcium, potassium, sodium, and magnesium); particles rich in iron, aluminum, titanium, and other metals that might be used in building construction; and particles of other components, such as computers, etc. Organic carbon in the dusts is most likely from paper, wallboard binder, and other organic materials.
The trace metal compositions of the dust and girder coatings likely reflect contributions of material from a wide variety of sources. Possibilities include metals that might be found as pigments in paints (such as titanium, molybdenum, lead, and iron), or metals that occur as traces in, or as major components of, wallboard, concrete, aggregate, copper piping, electrical wiring, and computer equipment. Further detailed SEM studies of dust and beam coating samples are needed to develop a better understanding of the residences of metals in the samples. A detailed review of the materials used in construction, and the elemental composition of materials commonly found in office buildings would also be useful to understand more completely the potential sources and compositions of the materials in the dusts.
http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/chem...
I went ahead and read through your purported "reply" and found that it was indeed spam that did not address the questions you were supposedly addressing.

In response, I'll give you evidence of extremely high temperatures that the USGS documented in the form of this and other iron-rich microspheres:

http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2005/1165/graphics/IR...

That thing depicted in the USGS photograph is the same as the iron-rich microspheres produced in a thermite reaction (in the variety where iron oxide is used as the metal oxide), and it depicts a once-molten droplet of iron that cooled and solidified in free-fall, hence the spherical shape (from surface tension while molten).
Bill

Austin, TX

#835 Feb 2, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Not free-fall as this one clearly shows!
Not symmetrical!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =G86yuunRBIwXX
This, class, is what you call a "straw man argument." I very clearly stated that the *ROOF LINE* descended at free-fall acceleration. You are responding with something about the east penthouse, not the roof-line.

The significance of the symmetric free-fall descent of the roof-line, as I've previously stated, is that it *REQUIRES* the simultaneous destruction of every supporting member of the perimeter of a very large steel-frame building so that there is no resistance to the roof-line drop.

The fact that the east penthouse fell a few seconds prior to the roof-line *IN NO WAY* undermines the building implosion scenario. In fact it demonstrates a standard implosion technique: destroy the core just prior to the perimeter destruction and the building perimeter will pull inward into its own footprint (if all goes well). In the case of WTC-7, we see a masterpiece of building implosion.
Bill

Austin, TX

#836 Feb 2, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Thermate is a high-level thermite analog containing sulfur developed by the military (see http://www.dodtechmatch.com/DOD/Patent/Patent... ). Thermate combines aluminum/iron oxide (thermite) with barium nitrate (29%) and sulfur (typically 2% although more sulfur could be added). The thermate reaction proceeds rapidly and is much faster than thermite in degrading steel leading to structural failure. Thus, both the unusually high temperatures and the extraordinary observation of steel-sulfidation (Barnett, 2001) can be accounted for -- if the use of thermate is allowed in the discussion. Note that other oxidizers (like KMnO4) and metals (like titanium and silicon) are commonly used in thermite analogs.
Source
Given that Jones appears to accept as reasonable that the 2% of sulfur has left a detectable trace on his sample, he must surely also have discovered the byproducts of Barium Nitrate, which is present in much larger quantities. And yet, there’s no mention of this at all.
So what you are saying is that barium nitrate is NOT an essential ingredient of thermite. At all.

Thanks, I was aware of that.
Bill

Austin, TX

#837 Feb 2, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Yes, We get it, what a sharp debunking of this paper!
http://www.911myths.com/Remote_Takeover.pdf
If you were to supply me with better material, it might take a bit more effort on my part, but this...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#838 Feb 2, 2013
Explain the lack of Barium!
Bill wrote:
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I went ahead and read through your purported "reply" and found that it was indeed spam that did not address the questions you were supposedly addressing.
In response, I'll give you evidence of extremely high temperatures that the USGS documented in the form of this and other iron-rich microspheres:
http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2005/1165/graphics/IR...
That thing depicted in the USGS photograph is the same as the iron-rich microspheres produced in a thermite reaction (in the variety where iron oxide is used as the metal oxide), and it depicts a once-molten droplet of iron that cooled and solidified in free-fall, hence the spherical shape (from surface tension while molten).

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