Was 911 an Inside Job

Was 911 an Inside Job

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Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#5198 Jun 20, 2013
Mulch Ado Bout Nada wrote:
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Because reconstruction of an external explosion would implicate the US Navy and the govie don't want that can of worms. Can you say "criminal involvement" !?!?!?!?!?
Think a little before you spout off bwunker.
Any proof of that or 20 pilots who could not fly Doc?

It's your man that says that it contained a high degree of silicone.

And yet why won't he name the so called scientist that stated that the residue is rocket fuel and what rocket fuel has silicone as a major component.

Also why is there no evidence on reconstruction of an external explosion?

Since: Sep 12

UK

#5199 Jun 20, 2013
not a chance always get this rubbish come out dont we
Mulch Ado Bout Nada

Mill Valley, CA

#5200 Jun 20, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Also why is there no evidence on reconstruction of an external explosion?
Because reconstruction of an external explosion would implicate the US Navy who accidentally fired the missile and the govie don't want that can of worms. Can you say "criminal involvement" !?!?!?!?!?

I told you that before. Why don't you listen?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#5201 Jun 20, 2013
Mulch Ado Bout Nada wrote:
<quoted text>
Because reconstruction of an external explosion would implicate the US Navy who accidentally fired the missile and the govie don't want that can of worms. Can you say "criminal involvement" !?!?!?!?!?
I told you that before. Why don't you listen?
ANY PROOF OF THAT? THOUGHT NOT!

And you are avoiding the flaw in your claim!

It's your man that says that it contained a high degree of silicone.

And yet why won't he name the so called scientist that stated that the residue is rocket fuel and what rocket fuel has silicone as a major component.
Mulch Ado Bout Nada

Mill Valley, CA

#5203 Jun 20, 2013
On December 23, 1913, the Federal Reserve Act, also known as the Glass-Owen Bill, was passed. The Republican controlled Senate rammed the bill through when many members of the US Congress were home for the holiday.

The President, Dr. Thomas Woodrow Wilson, signed it into law one hour after being passed by the Congress! Somebody very powerful really wanted this law passed.

The Federal Reserve System is an independent central bank. Although the President of the United States appoints the chairman of the Fed, and this appointment is approved by the United States Senate, the decisions of the Fed do not have to be ratified by the President, or anyone else in the executive branch of the United States government.

Buried in the legislation was the granting of total power over the monetary policies of all US banks. A very curious statement is found in the original 1913 law. SEC. 30.

The right to amend, alter, or repeal this Act is hereby expressly reserved. Reserved expressly to whom, or what? No definition is provided. This is the entire Section 30 statement! "Curiouser and curiouser, cried Alice".

Stock not held by member banks shall not be entitled to voting power. This clause guarantees
that no outsider can justify buying shares in the Federal Reserve. "But wait! There's more!"

Sec. 341 Second. To have succession for a period of twenty years from its organization unless it is sooner dissolved by an Act of Congress, or unless its franchise becomes forfeited by some violation of law. The Federal Reserve was only given a corporate life of 20 years! Their time was up in 1933 Who was President at that time? Franklin. D. Roosevelt, of course. Somehow, the Federal Reserve's termination did not occur. Reader, do I have your attention yet? My research failed to find any reauthorization of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, other than the tacit approval given by the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002.

No Senator or Representative in Congress shall be a member of the Federal Reserve Board or an officer or a director of a Federal reserve bank.

No member of Congress is have access to the inner sanctum! Hello, what is this? Are they afraid that an American might come upon something untoward? 12 USC 3019 Federal reserve banks, including the capital stock and surplus therein, and the Income derived therefrom shall be exempt from Federal, State, and local taxation, except taxes upon real estate. People, I think we are a roll now.

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1095269452....

“ Soon: too late to protest”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#5204 Jun 20, 2013
Set Report wrote:
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Democrat/republican, liberal/conservative...what's the difference? They're all run by the same people, it's nothing but a show my friend.
Oh, I know. Those at the top all play the Federal Reserve Corp. game, but liberal voters want to feed the poor, house the needy, and stop the Federal Reserve Corp. treason.
There was a chance, but with half the population helping cops attack the troops on the front lines (protesting patriots), Occupy, etc. has been sabotaged from within by the feds, and now it’s truly too late. So, if you know conservatives, make sure they know they’re to blame as you lose out over the next few years. Hopefully, most of those caught up in the next coming wave of foreclosures are conservative traitors.
(next post)

“ Soon: too late to protest”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#5205 Jun 20, 2013
Liberals & Conservatives Agree: We're in danger
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TQ3OE1...
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Poll: Those who post real names, whether correct or not
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TU3AG01...
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Mulch Ado Bout Nada

Mill Valley, CA

#5206 Jun 20, 2013
The Federal reserve banks are exempt from all taxation. These people are very independent.

Independent of audits, independent of congressional supervision, and independent of the American voter.

The Federal Reserve claims that nobody owns it – that it is an "independent entity within the
government." The Federal Reserve is subject to laws such as the Freedom of Information Act and the Privacy Act which cover Federal agencies but not private corporations; yet Congress gave the Federal Reserve the autonomy to carry out its responsibilities insulated from political pressure.

Each of the Fed's three parts – the Board of Governors, the regional Reserve banks, and the Federal Open Market Committee – operates independently of the federal government to carry out the Fed's core responsibilities.

Once a member of the Board of Governors is appointed, he or she can be as independent as a U.S. Supreme Court judge, though the term is shorter.

As the nation's central bank, the Federal Reserve derives its authority from the U.S. Congress. It is considered an independent central bank because its decisions do not have to be ratified by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branch of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by the Congress, and the terms of the members of the Board of Governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms.

(The Fed's financial independence arises because it is hugely profitable due to its ownership of government bonds.

(It gives the government billions of dollars each year.) However, the Federal Reserve is subject to oversight by the Congress, which periodically reviews its activities and can alter its responsibilities by statute.

Also, the Federal Reserve must work within the framework of the overall objectives of economic and financial policy established by the government.

The only statements of ownership made by the Federal Reserve Board is an allusion to the twelve Federal district banks. This circle puts us back at the beginning, for no information is provided regarding the ownership of the twelve Federal district banks.

However, a 1976 government study commissioned by the Federal Reserve Directors revealed the following:

OWNERSHIP OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE Most Americans, if they know anything at all about the Federal Reserve, believe it is an agency of the United States Government.

This article charts the true nature of the "National Bank." Chart 1 Source:** Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence **-- Published 1976 Chart 1 reveals the linear connection between the Rothschilds and the Bank of England, and the London banking houses which ultimately control the Federal Reserve Banks through their stockholdings of bank stock and their subsidiary firms in New York.

The two principal Rothschild representatives in New York, J. P. Morgan Co., and Kuhn, Loeb & Co. were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island Conference at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted, who directed the subsequent successful campaign to have the plan enacted into law by Congress, and who purchased the controlling amounts of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in 1914.

These firms had their principal officers appointed to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and the Federal Advisory Council in 1914.

In 1914 a few families (blood or business related) owning controlling stock in existing banks (such as in New York City) caused those banks to purchase controlling shares in the Federal Reserve regional banks.

Examination of the charts and text in the House Banking Committee Staff Report of August, 1976 and the current stockholders list of the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks show this same family control.

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1095269452....

“ Soon: too late to protest”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#5207 Jun 21, 2013
Mulch Ado Bout Nada wrote:
The Federal reserve banks are exempt from all taxation. These people are very independent.
Independent of audits, independent of congressional supervision, and independent of the American voter.
As the nation's central bank, the Federal Reserve derives its authority from the U.S. Congress. It is considered an independent central bank because its decisions do not have to be ratified by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branch of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by the Congress, and the terms of the members of the Board of Governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms.
(The Fed's financial independence arises because it is hugely profitable due to its ownership of government bonds.
(It gives the government billions of dollars each year.) However, the Federal Reserve is subject to oversight by the Congress, which periodically reviews its activities and can alter its responsibilities by statute.
Also, the Federal Reserve must work within the framework of the overall objectives of economic and financial policy established by the government.
OWNERSHIP OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE Most Americans, if they know anything at all about the Federal Reserve, believe it is an agency of the United States Government.
This article charts the true nature of the "National Bank." Chart 1 Source:** Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence **-- Published 1976 Chart 1 reveals the linear connection between the Rothschilds and the Bank of England, and the London banking houses which ultimately control the Federal Reserve Banks through their stockholdings of bank stock and their subsidiary firms in New York.
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1095269452....
The fact is that Congress can write all the laws they want, but the Federal Reserve Corp. is so powerful that NOBODY can stand up to them.
The Fed is supposed to be audited and accountable to Congress, but there’s never been a true audit, and if you ever watch C-SPAN you’d see legislators caving in because of Bernanke’s threats. The Fed Corp. could destroy this country because THE CONTROL OUR MONEY - ILLEGALLY and because the IDIOT MASSES ARE TOO GUTLESS AND BRAIN-DEAD TO FIGHT BACK.
Republicans are good as scamming their idiotic voters into believing they really want to force the Fed to be audited. People with functioning brains know that they’re just lying politicians, and the Fed has no reason to fear them because Republicans do the most to help the Fed get everything they want.
Brain-dead conservatives were the ones who kept shouting filth at patriotic protesters who were bravely exposing the Fed. The morons never figured out that cops were so violent to peaceful protesters because they threatened to expose a coming disaster.
The Rothschilds, the richest family on earth thanks to banking corruption and warmongering, are behind it all.
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“ Soon: too late to protest”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#5208 Jun 21, 2013
I’ve been posting these warnings for years, urging people to protest, etc. but the idiots never did.
Now it’s too late. The fact that Occupy was infiltrated by the feds and is now dead, plus the cops attacking the protesters, are both proof that those protesters truly were a threat. Now it’s too late.
This is just a sample:

Why the Fed is ...Treason !
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TUNB6F...
US Politics
'Federal Reserve'= Rothschilds' private company
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/T8KSPBP6J7ENM2L...
US News

How & Why to...'End the Fed'
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/TCK1HUS5OEI4KEJ...
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The Fed plans to destroy the economy
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/TNTT0NJV32TJDOF...
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“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#5209 Jun 21, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet why won't he name the so called scientist that stated that the residue is rocket fuel and what rocket fuel has silicone as a major component.
Also why is there no evidence on reconstruction of an external explosion?
And why risk exposure of such an event by having crash investigators in training repeatedly re-investigating the wreckage over and over?

"Instructional WreckageUnderwater recovery and wreckage reconstruction were some of the extraordinary skills needed to determine the cause of several recent accidents, including the flight of TWA 800. The reconstruction of the center fuselage of this Boeing 747 was the largest and most complex ever undertaken in the history of civil aviation. It is now being used as an important teaching and training tool at the Training Center."

http://www.ntsb.gov/TC/facilityloc.htm#wrecka...

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#5210 Jun 21, 2013
Protester wrote:
I’ve been posting these warnings for years, urging people to protest, etc. but the idiots never did.
Now it’s too late. The fact that Occupy was infiltrated by the feds and is now dead, plus the cops attacking the protesters, are both proof that those protesters truly were a threat. Now it’s too late.
This is just a sample:
Why the Fed is ...Treason !
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TUNB6F...
US Politics
'Federal Reserve'= Rothschilds' private company
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/T8KSPBP6J7ENM2L...
US News
How & Why to...'End the Fed'
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/TCK1HUS5OEI4KEJ...
US News
The Fed plans to destroy the economy
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/TNTT0NJV32TJDOF...
US News
So you've been telling people for years and no one takes you seriously.

There's a clue for you there...can you find it?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#5212 Jun 21, 2013
Mulch Ado Bout Nada wrote:
Buried in the legislation was the granting of total power over the monetary policies of all US banks. A very curious statement is found in the original 1913 law. SEC. 30.
The right to amend, alter, or repeal this Act is hereby expressly reserved. Reserved expressly to whom, or what? No definition is provided. This is the entire Section 30 statement! "Curiouser and curiouser, cried Alice".
If you knew anything about the law, an Act passed by congress can only be amended by congress, they did not need to say who because it is obvious to educated people that only legislation can be amended, altered , or repealed BY LEGISLATION!

SO WHAT SORT OF ROCKET FUEL CONTAINS SILICONE AS A MAJOR COMPONENT?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#5213 Jun 21, 2013
Protester wrote:
<quoted text>
The Fed is supposed to be audited and accountable to Congress, but there’s never been a true audit,
Well other than endless ones through the years!

The 12 Federal Reserve Banks, and the Federal Reserve System as a whole are all subject to several levels of audit and review:

The Government Accountability Office (GAO) conducts numerous reviews of Federal Reserve activities.
The Board's financial statements, and its compliance with laws and regulations affecting those statements, are audited annually by an outside auditor retained by the Office of Inspector General (OIG).
The Board's OIG audits and investigates Board programs and operations as well as those Board functions delegated to the Reserve Banks. Completed and active GAO reviews and completed OIG audits, reviews, and assessments are listed in the Board's Annual Report.(Before 2002, the reviews were listed in the Board's Annual Report: Budget Review.)
The financial statements of the Reserve Banks are also audited annually by an independent outside auditor.
Each week, the Federal Reserve publishes its balance sheet and charts of recent balance sheet trends, as well as provides an interactive guide to the Fed's balance sheet. The balance sheet is included in the Federal Reserve's H.4.1 statistical release, "Factors Affecting Reserve Balances of Depository Institutions and Condition Statement of Federal Reserve Banks."

In addition, the Reserve Banks are subject to annual examination by the Board. The Board's financial statements and the combined financial statements for the Reserve Banks are published in the Board's Annual Report.

AND THE AUDITS!

http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/refo...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#5214 Jun 21, 2013
Mulch Ado Bout Nada wrote:
The Federal reserve banks are exempt from all taxation.
Not exempt, THEY MAKE NOT PROFIT! Just like anyone else that leaves little to tax.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#5215 Jun 21, 2013
Mulch Ado Bout Nada wrote:
OWNERSHIP OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE Most Americans, if they know anything at all about the Federal Reserve, believe it is an agency of the United States Government.
The Federal Reserve System fulfills its public mission as an independent entity within government. IT IS NOT "OWNED" BY ANYONE AND IS NOT A PRIVATE, PROFIT-MAKING INSTITUTION.

As the nation's central bank, the Federal Reserve derives its authority from the Congress of the United States. It is considered an independent central bank because its monetary policy decisions do not have to be approved by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branches of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by the Congress, and the terms of the members of the Board of Governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms.

HOWEVER, THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS SUBJECT TO OVERSIGHT BY THE CONGRESS, WHICH OFTEN REVIEWS THE FEDERAL RESERVE'S ACTIVITIES AND CAN ALTER ITS RESPONSIBILITIES BY STATUTE. Therefore, the Federal Reserve can be more accurately described as "independent within the government" rather than "independent of government."

The 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks, which were established by the Congress as the operating arms of the nation's central banking system, are organized similarly to private corporations--possibly leading to some confusion about "ownership." For example, the Reserve Banks issue shares of stock to member banks. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. THE RESERVE BANKS ARE NOT OPERATED FOR PROFIT, AND OWNERSHIP OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF STOCK IS, BY LAW, A CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP IN THE SYSTEM. The stock may not be sold, traded, or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, 6 percent per year.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#5216 Jun 21, 2013
Mulch Ado Bout Nada wrote:
The two principal Rothschild representatives in New York, J. P. Morgan Co., and Kuhn, Loeb & Co. were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island Conference at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted.
WRONG, That plan was rejected!

The Federal Reserve Act of 1913

Following the near catastrophic financial disaster of 1907, the movement for banking reform picked up steam among Wall Street bankers, Republicans, and eastern Democrats. However, much of the country was still distrustful of bankers and of banking in general, especially after 1907. After two decades of minority status, Democrats regained control of Congress in 1910 and were able to block several Republican attempts at reform, even though they recognized the need for some kind of currency and banking changes. In 1912 Woodrow Wilson won the Democratic party’s nomination for President, and in his populist-friendly acceptance speech he warned against the "money trusts," and advised that "a concentration of the control of credit ... may at any time become infinitely dangerous to free enterprise."3

Also in 1910, Senator Nelson Aldrich, Frank Vanderlip of National City (today know as Citibank), Henry Davison of Morgan Bank, and Paul Warburg of the Kuhn, Loeb Investment House met secretly at Jeckyll Island, a resort island off the coast of Georgia, to discuss and formulate banking reform, including plans for a form of central banking. The meeting was held in secret because the participants knew that any plan they generated would be rejected automatically in the House of Representatives if it were associated with Wall Street. Because it was secret and because it involved Wall Street, the Jekyll Island affair has always been a favorite source of conspiracy theories. However, the movement toward significant banking and monetary reform was well-known.3 It is hardly surprising that given the real possibility of substantial reform, the banking industry would want some sort of input into the nature of the reforms. The Aldrich Plan which the secret meeting produced was even defeated in the House, so even if the Jekyll Island affair was a genuine conspiracy, it clearly failed.

The Aldrich Plan called for a system of fifteen regional central banks, called National Reserve Associations, whose actions would be coordinated by a national board of commercial bankers. The Reserve Association would make emergency loans to member banks, create money to provide an elastic currency that could be exchanged equally for demand deposits, and would act as a fiscal agent for the federal government. Although it was defeated, the Aldrich Plan served as an outline for the bill that eventually was adopted.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#5217 Jun 21, 2013
The problem with the Aldrich Plan was that the regional banks would be controlled individually and nationally by bankers, a prospect that did not sit well with the populist Democratic party or with Wilson. As the debate began to take shape in the spring of 1913, Congressman Arsene Pujo provided good evidence that the nation’s credit markets were under the tight control of a handful of banks – the "money trusts" against which Wilson warned.1 Wilson and the Democrats wanted a reform measure which would decentralize control away from the money trusts.

The legislation that eventually emerged was the Federal Reserve Act, also known at the time as the Currency Bill, or the Owen-Glass Act. The bill called for a system of eight to twelve mostly autonomous regional Reserve Banks that would be owned by the banks in their region and whose actions would be coordinated by a Federal Reserve Board appointed by the President. The Board’s members originally included the Secretary of the Treasury, the Comptroller of the Currency, and other officials appointed by the President to represent public interests. The proposed Federal Reserve System would therefore be privately owned, but publicly controlled. Wilson signed the bill on December 23, 1913 and the Federal Reserve System was born.6

Conspiracy theorists have long viewed the Federal Reserve Act as a means of giving control of the banking system to the money trusts, when in reality the intent and effect was to wrestle control away from them. History clearly demonstrates that in the decades prior to the Federal Reserve Act the decisions of a few large New York banks had, at times, enormous repercussions for banks throughout the country and the economy in general. Following the return to central banking, at least some measure of control was removed from them and placed with the Federal Reserve.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#5218 Jun 21, 2013
Just wondered Doc, Do you get tired of being totally wrong about the Fed?

And are you selling a book on how to get rich in the Gold market, those can be found down here quite often, normally in trailer houses where the book was bought with funds from a government assistance check, ODDLY, these Gold millionaires still live in trailer houses, if they are lucky they have one car that runs sometimes and look like rejects from Honey Boo Boo.

Oh those rich and famous.
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Provide proof of yours, you can change your name but you can't change your tin foil hat! BUT HERE YOU GO CUPCAKE!
From your link
The Federal Reserve Corp. is America's 'secret government':
They've kept the fact that they're a private corporation a secret for 100 years.
FALSE,
There is also the misconception that the Fed is completely independent or private. This is false as it is a quasi-public entity. The Fed, like most central banks in the world, is considered "independent," which is basically a term of art meaning that its day-to-day operations are not overseen by the federal government. However, its chairman and board of governors are appointed by the president, it is subject to Congressional oversight
http://factcheck.org/2008/03/federal-reserve-...
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They have illegally taken control of the printing of OUR money,
FALSE, THE US TREASURY COINS MONEY
The Treasury prints and mints all paper currency and coins in circulation through the Bureau of Engraving and Printing and the United States Mint.
http://www.treasury.gov/about/history/Pages/b...
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They take the profits, while taxpayers get the debts.
FALSE, ALL PROFITS ARE RETURNED TO THE US TREASURY.
Fed Profit of $88.9 Billion Sent to Treasury in 2012
They may only retain a slight portion of profits to pay expenses, which is break even and not considered (net) profit under accounting 101.
The Fed is required by law to hand over a large majority of its profits, a long-standing provision that has become a lot more lucrative in recent years. Because the money is transferred at regular intervals throughout the year, Thursday’s report does not affect the imminent arrival of the debt ceiling.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/business/ec...
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Congress is supposed to audit the Federal Reserve' but every time they try, Bernanke threatens Congress with 'economic disaster',
FALSE, IT HAS BEEN AUDITED EVERY YEAR FOR AGES!
The Audits!
http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/refo...
Mulch Ado Bout Nada

Mill Valley, CA

#5219 Jun 21, 2013
Do you make this shit up or do you cut n paste like I do?

Do you have any links to back your story up? I thought not.

Ironical Ad Hom at best.

It seems to depend on which web site you get your information from.

Me I don't trust the govie sites or much more for that matter.

Say what's your Real name anyway? And who's this Doc you keep talking about?

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