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Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>I'm still waiting for your simple coherent explanation of what you believe actually took place on 9/11. Are you ever going to provide one or am I to assume that you really have no idea what you believe?
It will be simple, but not coherent.

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<quoted text>I've tried three, four times to get a simple, coherent explanation from this person as to what they actually believe happened on 9/11 and all I got was dead air. If I can't get a simple, coherent explanation, that must mean that he/she/it hasn't got a clue.

You seem to be operating on the same wave-length, let's hear your simple coherent explanation of what you believe happened on 9/11,
Zorders, aka elevator boy, is so scientifically illiterate that he mindlessly quoted another twoofer who claimed the elevator shafts in the WTC towers were sealed and therefore no explosion of jet fuel within them could have occurred.

The problem with elevator boy's mindless repetition of this twoofers claim is that by sealing the elevator, it can no longer move up or down.

Now given such a failure to understand such a basic concept, he still thinks he can discern good science from bad.

Now THAT'S funny!

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Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>It took me 5 years of research and 3 months to post it.
And that is all you can say. I'd say you are the clueless one...Typical shill ploys from you...so obvious..
You must've went to the shills debunker school huh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =0esUFZcMtdAXX

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Here, maybe your illiteracy is because you can only read topix format...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TR4E9LJ...
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http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
You simply compile anything that confirms your bias then regurgitate it with no attempt at verification.

Obviously you have no clue what "research" is.

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Rent a hotel room you guys..
You should wash your mouth out with soap for even thinking that. Ew.

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Porkpie Hat wrote:
It will be simple, but not coherent.
Thus far I've gotten a vague bumper sticker and hints he's familiar with Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche, Jr., I'm not sure that I want to know any more. I'm just finding it funny that he isn't getting that his complete inability to explain what he thinks he believes in a simple and coherent manner is only harming his own now rather quixotic cause. These folk have been chanting the same mantra for eleven years now and to date have yet to produce evidence of any single alternative theory, let alone any of the myriad of mutually exclusive ones which get tossed out there. Nothing and no one has stopped them from investigating any theory behind 9/11 their little minds could come up with. What makes them imagine that anyone else would be able to come up with what they haven't?

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Zorders, aka elevator boy, is so scientifically illiterate that he mindlessly quoted another twoofer who claimed the elevator shafts in the WTC towers were sealed and therefore no explosion of jet fuel within them could have occurred.{/QUOTE]Thoughts like that ought to be as painful to think as they are to read. After 1993, they did what they could to prevent a repeat of them as acting as great big chimneys in a fire, venting out onto the floors above it before it could exit the building, which clearly didn't work, but something like this wasn't in those plans.
[QUOTE who="Porkpie Hat"]The problem with elevator boy's mindless repetition of this twoofers claim is that by sealing the elevator, it can no longer move up or down.
Now given such a failure to understand such a basic concept, he still thinks he can discern good science from bad.
Now THAT'S funny!
But closed minds are fun to play with.

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Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>But closed minds are fun to play with.
I know!

Far better entertainment than reality television could ever produce!

Although the plot line never changes.

It always boils down to ebil Jews!
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A conspiracy yes, an inside job-eh. Although it took enabling and cover up of an existing plot. I don't think alot of these events are grand plot from day one but rather exploitation and/or enabling accompanied by cover-ups for various reasons.

There are conspiracieS involved in 9-11 over a decade ago. But was it a grand government plot from day one-no. Did the government and/or factions of the government ignore intelligence on an existing plot or enable the plot for their own purposes-yes.

Could they have let an existing plot run it's course hoping to swoop in at the last minute like a "hero" to get the press conference with pictures,evidence/props and flow charts to show the scoop & magnitude of the potential danger: how they saved YOU-yes!.

Or could they have let and/or enabled an existing plot run it's course to get the big intelligence score OR keep THEIR intelligence sources in place and/or 'safe'?-Absolutely. This is where the cover ups would most likely begin. To protect sources and their "operation for intelligence purposes" enabling.

You also have lots of side cover ups for those negligent or remiss is not reporting a dangerous government operation or known foreign plot.

To me one of the big cover ups would be the 'controlled demoliton' of the 3 buildings. Personally I think these buildings might have been preprepped for controlled demoltion after the first WTC attack in the 1990s. Someone probably feared the buildings could collapse or tilt over sideways creating even more damage. To me it's possible that these building were 'prepped' enough for an easy on the spot decision to demo. Would you want to take responsibility for the decision to purposely demo a building with thousands of people still in it? OR perhaps someone took advantage of this knowledge and exploited it for 'the' plot or their plot.

I think there were multiple things going on that day that coincided to one big catastrophic event that was exploited to the fullest.

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Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Thus far I've gotten a vague bumper sticker and hints he's familiar with Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche, Jr., I'm not sure that I want to know any more. I'm just finding it funny that he isn't getting that his complete inability to explain what he thinks he believes in a simple and coherent manner is only harming his own now rather quixotic cause. These folk have been chanting the same mantra for eleven years now and to date have yet to produce evidence of any single alternative theory, let alone any of the myriad of mutually exclusive ones which get tossed out there. Nothing and no one has stopped them from investigating any theory behind 9/11 their little minds could come up with. What makes them imagine that anyone else would be able to come up with what they haven't?
Well said and a perfect summary of the losers who call themselves "truthers".

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sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
A conspiracy yes, an inside job-eh. Although it took enabling and cover up of an existing plot. I don't think alot of these events are grand plot from day one but rather exploitation and/or enabling accompanied by cover-ups for various reasons.

There are conspiracieS involved in 9-11 over a decade ago. But was it a grand government plot from day one-no. Did the government and/or factions of the government ignore intelligence on an existing plot or enable the plot for their own purposes-yes.

Could they have let an existing plot run it's course hoping to swoop in at the last minute like a "hero" to get the press conference with pictures,evidence/props and flow charts to show the scoop & magnitude of the potential danger: how they saved YOU-yes!.

Or could they have let and/or enabled an existing plot run it's course to get the big intelligence score OR keep THEIR intelligence sources in place and/or 'safe'?-Absolutely. This is where the cover ups would most likely begin. To protect sources and their "operation for intelligence purposes" enabling.

You also have lots of side cover ups for those negligent or remiss is not reporting a dangerous government operation or known foreign plot.

To me one of the big cover ups would be the 'controlled demoliton' of the 3 buildings. Personally I think these buildings might have been preprepped for controlled demoltion after the first WTC attack in the 1990s. Someone probably feared the buildings could collapse or tilt over sideways creating even more damage. To me it's possible that these building were 'prepped' enough for an easy on the spot decision to demo. Would you want to take responsibility for the decision to purposely demo a building with thousands of people still in it? OR perhaps someone took advantage of this knowledge and exploited it for 'the' plot or their plot.

I think there were multiple things going on that day that coincided to one big catastrophic event that was exploited to the fullest.
Nice rant, any evidence?

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Yes, let's!
1) I pointed out that twoofers mindlessly regurgitating idiocies like "free fall speeds" betrays the simple fact that they haven't the requisite knowledge to whether any claim based on physics is valid.
2) You sheepishly attempted to defend your poor little scientifically illiterate flock of social misfits by claiming they were referring to a mythical time dependant point on an acceleration curve that pointed towards nefarious intent by way of high explosives or incendiaries.
3) I asked you to solve for this mythical value "x".
4) You then dropped that line of reasoning because it was a lie to begin with and claimed that velocity and acceleration are interchangeable terms which of course, they aren't. Particularly when the specific concept of "free fall" is being used to imply nefarious intent by the writers of an engineering study.
5) You continue to follow a path of ignorance by repeatedly making a claim that is akin to saying the terms "red and blue" are interchangeable because they are both colours, wheat and rye are interchangeable because they are both grains, up and down are interchangeable because they are both directions.
6) Faced with unassailable logic you return to your twoofer roots and try desperately to lie your way out of your previous lies by claiming I can't define speed.
Why?
Because twoof and truth are not interchangeable and twoof itself is a lie that can only be defended by telling lies.
And because,
[Your] Ignorance is [Your] Bliss
Good points indeed!!!

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Zorders, aka elevator boy, is so scientifically illiterate that he mindlessly quoted another twoofer who claimed the elevator shafts in the WTC towers were sealed and therefore no explosion of jet fuel within them could have occurred.
The problem with elevator boy's mindless repetition of this twoofers claim is that by sealing the elevator, it can no longer move up or down.
Now given such a failure to understand such a basic concept, he still thinks he can discern good science from bad.
Now THAT'S funny!
Also, the flame front from the jet fuel blew down the elevator shaft incinerating stuff in the lobby. The plane cut through the cables causing the elevators to crash when the brakes failed due to distortion of the rails caused by impact.

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<quoted text>Sweetie, your little blog is pretty much an unreadable mess of random ideas, not a simple, coherent explanation of what you believe. Screaming thoughts reduced to the depth of meaning of a bumper sticker really doesn't help.
1. Who was responsible?
2. What did they do?
3. How did they accomplish this?
4. Why did they do this?
Let me take a whack at it.

Item 1: Numerous high ranking government official, military, Air Traffic control, Special Forces, CIA, FBI, etc. They all worked in perfect harmony doing this massive clandestine operation in co-operation with Mas-sad, Isreal's special forces.

Item 2: The above forces planted explosives in buildings, hijacked civilian planes and replaced them with other plane or rigged them for RC operation. Everyone was controlled right down to the Airport security, ticket takers, Airline personnel, NORAD and Air Traffic Control. All this took place with precision harmony.

Item 3: They simply got everyone to fall in line with their operation, killed hundreds of civilians who got in the way, then cleverly manipulated the media with well placed shills to promote the false story.

Item 4: They did all this to make a plausible reason for invading the Middle East and establishing Western Style Democracy.

Conclusion: Such a scenario is impossible. There is no tangible evidence to support such a massive conspiracy.

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Commander Bunny wrote:
<quoted text>Rent a hotel room you guys..
Oh Commander, surely you jest!?!?!?!?!?
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Did you see what mu shu porker pig boy said about me?
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Why he should be ashamed of himself.
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He just has to say something bad about somebody every time he posts.
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Well thats a pig for ya.
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And you know what they say doncha ?
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"Superior minds are concerned with ideas, average minds with events, inferior minds with personalities."
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mu shu porker pig boy sure don't like my personality much does he?
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha ha ah ah aha ha a
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That's A Cute Little Inferior Mind pig boy Has Huh eh !

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Let me take a whack at it.
Item 1: Numerous high ranking government official, military, Air Traffic control, Special Forces, CIA, FBI, etc. They all worked in perfect harmony doing this massive clandestine operation in co-operation with Mas-sad, Isreal's special forces.
Item 2: The above forces planted explosives in buildings, hijacked civilian planes and replaced them with other plane or rigged them for RC operation. Everyone was controlled right down to the Airport security, ticket takers, Airline personnel, NORAD and Air Traffic Control. All this took place with precision harmony.
Item 3: They simply got everyone to fall in line with their operation, killed hundreds of civilians who got in the way, then cleverly manipulated the media with well placed shills to promote the false story.
Item 4: They did all this to make a plausible reason for invading the Middle East and establishing Western Style Democracy.
Conclusion: Such a scenario is impossible. There is no tangible evidence to support such a massive conspiracy.
You got it about right except for your conclusion. There is massive circumstantial and direct evidence to support such a scenario, you for one, just don't believe your government is capable of it.
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You probably believe Pearl Harbor was a surprise and Oswald killed JFK.
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Changing the subject, "strawman" take your pick!
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9/11 was purely a Wag The Doggone Doggitty Dog black op if there ever was one.
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You can piss on history but you can't change it.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ah ha ha ha ha
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That's A Good One Huh eh !

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You got it about right except for your conclusion. There is massive circumstantial and direct evidence to support such a scenario, you for one, just don't believe your government is capable of it.
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You probably believe Pearl Harbor was a surprise and Oswald killed JFK.
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Changing the subject, "strawman" take your pick!
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9/11 was purely a Wag The Doggone Doggitty Dog black op if there ever was one.
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You can piss on history but you can't change it.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ah ha ha ha ha
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That's A Good One Huh eh !
Except none of that ever happened.

Pearl Harbor and Kennedy have no connection to 9/11.

Strawman is non-applicable in this context.

Not really. 9/11 hijackers did exactly what they set out to do. I would say they were successful in carrying out their mission.
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The US has never engaged in the nefarious act of inflicting a false flag attack against an innocent entity or a guilty foe in order to blame some other enemy.

That's what I think anyway.

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The US has never engaged in the nefarious act of inflicting a false flag attack against an innocent entity or a guilty foe in order to blame some other enemy.
That's what I think anyway.
I agree. There is no evidence to support such a preposterous theory.

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The real conspiracy is the conspiracy of globalism created and activated by a small handful of impossibly wealthy Western elites and their European masters.
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People have discovered this for themselves now and no amount of social disapprobation will likely dissuade people from believing in what they consider to be truth.

As "conspiracy theory" evolves into "speaking truth to power," the trend that will expand will be one of accuracy and reality.
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People will indeed pursue "activism" but the activism will be based on certainty and passion, not faux consumerism and misguided environmental concern.
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Conclusion: People are gradually discovering that "conspiracy theory" is actually "directed history."
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And once they discover this, there is no turning back.
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http://www.thedailybell.com/28622/Are-Those-W...
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That's A Good One Huh eh !

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<quoted text>Also, the flame front from the jet fuel blew down the elevator shaft incinerating stuff in the lobby. The plane cut through the cables causing the elevators to crash when the brakes failed due to distortion of the rails caused by impact.
Just more inconvenient facts for twoofers to invent outlandish lies that can only be bolstered by twoofer fiziks about!

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