Was 911 an Inside Job

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Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4685 May 24, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
So the government agencies NIST and other various laboratories like Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories researches and develops thermites/thermates, nano-thermites/thermates into highly explosive spray on adherant coatings, and various other seemingly innocent materials, like thin film ceiling tiles and they
LMFAO!

Now this twist has forced the Jones/Harrit/Roberts crew to slightly alter their story-line. Now they are suggesting that this primer paint that was used in the towers was actually the super-secret explosive nano-thermite and that the big plan was to run around spraying the underside of the floor systems with “explosive paint”.

This is completely ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as Jim Hoffman’s “1.8 million ceiling tile bombs” theory…(almost). There is no way to control an even dispersal of paint on the underside of a floor system that is crowded with trusses, transverse trusses, cables, beams, and various other piping, AC ducts, ect… Without an even dispersal of the explosive, there is also no way of having a predictable outcome when it is ignited. Also, when paint is atomized to spray, fine particles of the dust dries and then falls in unexpected places. This dust would also be explosive. There is no way that the experts who designed the destruction of the Twin Towers would spray “explosive paint” on every single floor of the World Trade Center. It’s ridiculous.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4686 May 24, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
And military and aerospace contractor TRW has had a long collaboration with NASA laboratories in the development of energetic materials that are components of advanced propellants, like nano-gelled explosive materials (NASA 2001).
yawn!

WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE UNIGNITED NANOTHERMITES THEY FOUND IN THE DUST SAMPLES IN THAT EXPERIMENT?

Niels Harritt, Steven Jones and other 9/11 controlled demolition theorists claim to have found nanothermite particles in dust samples from the World Trade Center. They made sure the dust samples were untainted, and used advanced instruments to measure what happened when these tiny red-grey chips were heated up.

Thermites reach temperatures of around 4500° and have their own oxygen supply when they burn, so they can burn underwater. Harritt, Jones, et. al. therefore should have heated up the chips in a nitrogen or argon atmosphere to eliminate the possibility that regular hydrocarbons were burning. They also failed to take the carbon-based products out of the mix, so what we may well be seeing is some kind of carbon-based product burning in oxygen. They compared the sudden energy spike of their burning chips with the spikes of known nanothermites, and found that their chips ignited at around 150° C. lower than the known nanothermites, and the energy release was off between their chips and the nanothermites by a factor of at least two. Yet they called this a match for nanothermite!

Attempts to independently replicate this experiment have been dismal. Mark Basile, who appeared in the acknowledgments of the original study, burned the chips in air, replicating the error of the original experiment and not even measuring the energy released. A chemist named Frédéric Henry-Couannier got another dust sample from the original experimenters and wrote,“Eventually the presence of nanothermite could not be confirmed.” The R.J. Lee Company did a 2003 study on the dust and didn’t find thermitic material.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

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#4687 May 24, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>WHAT ABOUT THOSE BILLIONS OF IRON MICROSPHERES THAT R.J. LEE FOUND IN A DUST ANALYSIS THAT PROVES THE THEORY THAT THE IRON IN THE BUILDINGS WAS MELTED BY THERMITE?

ARE YOU TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT?

Thermite would leave tons of formerly melted iron blobs, not just microspheres. But in the 1970s, while workers welded thousands of steel beams together, hot microspheres were splattered everywhere. Concrete has fly ash in it, and I have a photo of iron-rich spheres in Tolk fly ash in my YouTube video response. Even if the microspheres were created in the fires on 9/11, the R.J. Lee dust study said,“Considering the high temperatures reached during the destruction of the WTC … Iron-rich spheres … would be expected to be present in the Dust.”

http://web.archive.org/web/20060114125157/htt...
Really, you mean if I click on that link I dont have to read your copy/paste intellect?

Gee, thanks Opie.

How do you ask a person who parrots websites (namely 9/11 myths because it high up on google), a question?

Thats a toughy...

Wouldn't it be nice if they would have saved the evidence from ground zero so we wouldn't have to have a copy/paste argument about it?

I forgot, Opie needs to argue because its full of hop.

Insults Are Easier

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#4688 May 24, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
LMFAO!
Now this twist has forced the Jones/Harrit/Roberts crew to slightly alter their story-line. Now they are suggesting that this primer paint that was used in the towers was actually the super-secret explosive nano-thermite and that the big plan was to run around spraying the underside of the floor systems with “explosive paint”.
This is completely ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as Jim Hoffman’s “1.8 million ceiling tile bombs” theory…(almost). There is no way to control an even dispersal of paint on the underside of a floor system that is crowded with trusses, transverse trusses, cables, beams, and various other piping, AC ducts, ect… Without an even dispersal of the explosive, there is also no way of having a predictable outcome when it is ignited. Also, when paint is atomized to spray, fine particles of the dust dries and then falls in unexpected places. This dust would also be explosive.
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There is no way that the experts who designed the destruction of
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the Twin Towers would spray “explosive paint” on every single
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floor of the World Trade Center. It’s ridiculous.
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So if the "experts who designed the destruction of the Twin Towers"
did not spray explosive "paint" disguised as fireproofing or some other innocent looking material during long periods of retrofitting after the new owners took possession of the buildings, then what is your best guess as to HOW these "experts" did it?
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Got any better refute than "It's ridiculous"?
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Sorry charlie the only predictable outcome your "experts" needed was to blow the place up and make it fall down. Why would these "experts" care if overspray detonated or the explosions were predictable or uneven or not?
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The towers were over designed to sustain airplane collisions. That leaves office furnishing fires low in the buildings where no jet fuel had penetrated and gravity?
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Sounds like Magik to me
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Expert Magik Huh Eh !

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#4689 May 24, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
yawn!
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WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE UNIGNITED NANOTHERMITES THEY FOUND IN THE DUST SAMPLES IN THAT EXPERIMENT?
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Niels Harritt, Steven Jones and other 9/11 controlled demolition theorists claim to have found nanothermite particles in dust samples from the World Trade Center. They made sure the dust samples were untainted, and used advanced instruments to measure what happened when these tiny red-grey chips were heated up.
Thermites reach temperatures of around 4500° and have their own oxygen supply when they burn, so they can burn underwater. Harritt, Jones, et. al. therefore should have heated up the chips in a nitrogen or argon atmosphere to eliminate the possibility that regular hydrocarbons were burning. They also failed to take the carbon-based products out of the mix, so what we may well be seeing is some kind of carbon-based product burning in oxygen. They compared the sudden energy spike of their burning chips with the spikes of known nanothermites, and found that their chips ignited at around 150° C. lower than the known nanothermites, and the energy release was off between their chips and the nanothermites by a factor of at least two. Yet they called this a match for nanothermite!
Attempts to independently replicate this experiment have been dismal. Mark Basile, who appeared in the acknowledgments of the original study, burned the chips in air, replicating the error of the original experiment and not even measuring the energy released. A chemist named Frédéric Henry-Couannier got another dust sample from the original experimenters and wrote,“Eventually the presence of nanothermite could not be confirmed.” The R.J. Lee Company did a 2003 study on the dust and didn’t find thermitic material.
Unexploded nano-thermate sol-gel coating over-spray.
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Or Magik Huh Eh !

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Edmonton, Canada

#4690 May 24, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>Really, you mean if I click on that link I dont have to read your copy/paste intellect?

Gee, thanks Opie.

How do you ask a person who parrots websites (namely 9/11 myths because it high up on google), a question?

Thats a toughy...

Wouldn't it be nice if they would have saved the evidence from ground zero so we wouldn't have to have a copy/paste argument about it?

I forgot, Opie needs to argue because its full of hop.

Insults Are Easier
That's pretty funny coming from the youRube queen!

Hahahahaha!!!!

Hey post that one from the 14 year old who laughs about the guys legs being blown off in Boston...it really up'd your cred.

In Twooferdumb!

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#4691 May 24, 2013
pig, you never had any cred, you illiterate and stupid pig.
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Huh Eh !

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Edmonton, Canada

#4692 May 24, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry to have to tell you this but the horse you are whipping here is already DEAD!
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The inexplicable fires lower in the buildings where no jet fuel penetrated are a reminder that the WTC buildings were not simply demolished, but were demolished in a deceptive way.
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That is, the buildings were brought down so as to make it look like the impact of the planes and the resulting fires might have caused their unprecedented, symmetrical destruction.
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Therefore, shaped charges and other typical explosive configurations were likely used, but there was more to it than that.
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Those committing the crimes needed to create fire where it would not have existed otherwise, and draw attention toward the part of the buildings where the planes impacted (or in the case of WTC 7, away from the building altogether).
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This was accomplished through the use of nano-thermites, which are high-tech energetic materials made by mixing ultra fine grain (UFG) aluminum and UFG metal oxides; usually iron oxide, molybdenum oxide or copper oxide, although other compounds can be used (Prakash 2005, Rai 2005).
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The mixing is accomplished by adding these reactants to a liquid solution where they form what are called “sols”, and then adding a gelling agent that captures these tiny reactive combinations in their intimately mixed state (LLNL 2000).
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The resulting “sol-gel” is then dried to form a porous reactive material that can be ignited in a number of ways.
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The high surface area of the reactants within energetic sol-gels
allows for the far higher rate of energy release than is seen in
“macro” thermite mixtures, making nano-thermites “HIGH EXPLOSIVES”
as well as pyrotechnic materials (Tillotson et al 1999).
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Sol-gel nano-thermites, are often called energetic nanocomposites, metastable intermolecular composites (MICs) or superthermite (COEM 2004, Son et al 2007), and silica is often used to create the porous, structural framework (Clapsaddle et al 2004, Zhao et al 2004).
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Nano-thermites have also been made with RDX (Pivkina et al 2004), and with thermoplastic elastomers (Diaz et al 2003).
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But it is important to remember that, despite the name, nano-thermites pack a much bigger punch than typical thermite materials.
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It turns out that explosive, sol-gel nano-thermites were developed by US government scientists, at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories as early as 1998.(LLNL)(Tillotson et al 1998, Gash et al 2000, Gash et al 2002).
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These LLNL scientists reported that --
“The sol-gel process is very amenable to dip-, spin-, and spray-coating technologies to coat surfaces.
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We have utilized this property to dip-coat various substrates to make sol-gel Fe,O,/ Al / Viton coatings.
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The energetic coating dries to give a nice adherent film.
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Preliminary experiments indicate that films of the hybrid material are self-propagating when ignited by thermal stimulus”.
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So nano-thermites/thermates would be the EXPLOSIVE of choice in demolishing the WTC towers if you wanted to rig the buildings without anyone being the wiser and to make it look like a top down collapse.
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No Magik needed here! Huh eh !
What's so funny is you're so dirt dumb that you think a few microns thick of anything could destroy a building.

An engineer who previously posted here did the calcs and the maximum raise in temperature would be 4C.

Wow!

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#4693 May 24, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
LMFAO!
Now this twist has forced the Jones/Harrit/Roberts crew to slightly alter their story-line. Now they are suggesting that this primer paint that was used in the towers was actually the super-secret explosive nano-thermite and that the big plan was to run around spraying the underside of the floor systems with “explosive paint”.
This is completely ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as Jim Hoffman’s “1.8 million ceiling tile bombs” theory…(almost). There is no way to control an even dispersal of paint on the underside of a floor system that is crowded with trusses, transverse trusses, cables, beams, and various other piping, AC ducts, ect… Without an even dispersal of the explosive, there is also no way of having a predictable outcome when it is ignited. Also, when paint is atomized to spray, fine particles of the dust dries and then falls in unexpected places. This dust would also be explosive. There is no way that the experts who designed the destruction of the Twin Towers would spray “explosive paint” on every single floor of the World Trade Center. It’s ridiculous.
Sorry charlie once again but actually "the experts who designed the destruction of the Twin Towers" only had to spray explosive paint, and replace the ceiling tiles on every other floor of the buildings to accomplish their dastardly deed. Along with a few cutter charges on some vital support columns and 'viola' it all comes crashing down
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S'not Magik you know Huh eh !
nme

Baton Rouge, LA

#4694 May 24, 2013
is the sky blue?
is the grass green?

Ask the people on the ground what they saw...

majority of first responders say black planes with NO windows + explosions coming from basement.

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#4695 May 24, 2013
So how thick DID the "experts who designed the destruction of the Twin Towers" spray the explosive paint?
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You say it was only a few microns.
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Who told you that?
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Huh Eh !

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#4696 May 24, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>That's pretty funny coming from the youRube queen!

Hahahahaha!!!!

Hey post that one from the 14 year old who laughs about the guys legs being blown off in Boston...it really up'd your cred.

In Twooferdumb!
Its not harmful to ones cred to post a video of somebody questioning a person, who 20 days after allegedly having his legs blown off, feels good enough to attend a hockey game and promote the propaganda of a strong Boston after it easily was under a martial law to stop a kid with a pipe bomb - and wave a big flag with his new stumps, wrapped in white bandages, banging up and down to balance himself enough to do it.

Now what the lunatic himself who made the video believes is irrelevant to me. The interesting part, and the reason I posted it, was the image of the guy waving the flag and all the effort it took him to do it so close to such a traumatic event... Not your shallow Canadian interpretations of my motivations, or your inability to recognize good character from bad.

Man, you are one unoriginal bad character.

That's really why

Insults Are Easier
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4697 May 24, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would these "experts" care if overspray detonated or the explosions were predictable or uneven or not?
Ah, Because they were allergic to being blown up real good and to bring it down uneven does not work, precise amounts in the right places is needed.

LMFAO!
Now this twist has forced the Jones/Harrit/Roberts crew to slightly alter their story-line. Now they are suggesting that this primer paint that was used in the towers was actually the super-secret explosive nano-thermite and that the big plan was to run around spraying the underside of the floor systems with “explosive paint”.

This is completely ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as Jim Hoffman’s “1.8 million ceiling tile bombs” theory…(almost). There is no way to control an even dispersal of paint on the underside of a floor system that is crowded with trusses, transverse trusses, cables, beams, and various other piping, AC ducts, ect… Without an even dispersal of the explosive, there is also no way of having a predictable outcome when it is ignited. Also, when paint is atomized to spray, fine particles of the dust dries and then falls in unexpected places. This dust would also be explosive.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4698 May 24, 2013
nme wrote:
majority of first responders say black planes with NO windows
Sure they did, More troofer lies without a link!

Lame.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4699 May 24, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
So how thick DID the "experts who designed the destruction of the Twin Towers" spray the explosive paint?
With a Chemtrail supersoaker operated by bigfoot.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4700 May 24, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
after it easily was under a martial law to stop a kid with a pipe bomb
Could you please link to the declaration of martial law and the 20 pilots who did not know how to fly?

The one thing you can count on is twoofers never tell the twoof.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4701 May 24, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry charlie once again but actually "the experts who designed the destruction of the Twin Towers" only had to spray explosive paint, and replace the ceiling tiles on every other floor of the buildings to accomplish their dastardly deed. Along with a few cutter charges on some vital support columns and 'viola' it all comes crashing down
WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE UNIGNITED NANOTHERMITES THEY FOUND IN THE DUST SAMPLES IN THAT EXPERIMENT? Niels Harritt, Steven Jones and other 9/11 controlled demolition theorists claim to have found nanothermite particles in dust samples from the World Trade Center. They made sure the dust samples were untainted, and used advanced instruments to measure what happened when these tiny red-grey chips were heated up.

Thermites reach temperatures of around 4500° and have their own oxygen supply when they burn, so they can burn underwater. Harritt, Jones, et. al. therefore should have heated up the chips in a nitrogen or argon atmosphere to eliminate the possibility that regular hydrocarbons were burning. They also failed to take the carbon-based products out of the mix, so what we may well be seeing is some kind of carbon-based product burning in oxygen. They compared the sudden energy spike of their burning chips with the spikes of known nanothermites, and found that their chips ignited at around 150° C. lower than the known nanothermites, and the energy release was off between their chips and the nanothermites by a factor of at least two. Yet they called this a match for nanothermite!

Attempts to independently replicate this experiment have been dismal. Mark Basile, who appeared in the acknowledgments of the original study, burned the chips in air, replicating the error of the original experiment and not even measuring the energy released. A chemist named Frédéric Henry-Couannier got another dust sample from the original experimenters and wrote,“Eventually the presence of nanothermite could not be confirmed.” The R.J. Lee Company did a 2003 study on the dust and didn’t find thermitic material.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#4702 May 24, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, Because they were allergic to being blown up real good and to bring it down uneven does not work, precise amounts in the right places is needed.
LMFAO!
Now this twist has forced the Jones/Harrit/Roberts crew to slightly alter their story-line. Now they are suggesting that this primer paint that was used in the towers was actually the super-secret explosive nano-thermite and that the big plan was to run around spraying the underside of the floor systems with “explosive paint”.
This is completely ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as Jim Hoffman’s “1.8 million ceiling tile bombs” theory…(almost). There is no way to control an even dispersal of paint on the underside of a floor system that is crowded with trusses, transverse trusses, cables, beams, and various other piping, AC ducts, ect… Without an even dispersal of the explosive, there is also no way of having a predictable outcome when it is ignited. Also, when paint is atomized to spray, fine particles of the dust dries and then falls in unexpected places. This dust would also be explosive.
And where did you get your degree in Controlled Explosive Demolition? How do you "know" what is needed and where.
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Who said there needs to be an even dispersal of explosive "paint".
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Oh yeah ... you said that. So what?
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Actually considering the evenness of all three collapses, basically straight down mostly into their own footprints, I'd say the dispersal of explosives was pretty well accomplished on all the structural members that needed to be taken out wouldn't you?
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They hired some really good painters Eh !
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Sorry charlie. Maybe you would feel better if you take the win by default trophy home and set it next to all the rest.
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Huh Eh !
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4703 May 24, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
And where did you get your degree in Controlled Explosive Demolition? How do you "know" what is needed and where.
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Who said there needs to be an even dispersal of explosive "paint".
YAWN!

Ah, Because they were allergic to being blown up real good and to bring it down uneven does not work, precise amounts in the right places is needed.

Now this twist has forced the Jones/Harrit/Roberts crew to slightly alter their story-line. Now they are suggesting that this primer paint that was used in the towers was actually the super-secret explosive nano-thermite and that the big plan was to run around spraying the underside of the floor systems with “explosive paint”.

This is completely ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as Jim Hoffman’s “1.8 million ceiling tile bombs” theory…(almost). There is no way to control an even dispersal of paint on the underside of a floor system that is crowded with trusses, transverse trusses, cables, beams, and various other piping, AC ducts, ect… Without an even dispersal of the explosive, there is also no way of having a predictable outcome when it is ignited. Also, when paint is atomized to spray, fine particles of the dust dries and then falls in unexpected places. This dust would also be explosive

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#4704 May 24, 2013
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