Was 911 an Inside Job

Was 911 an Inside Job

Created by inquiring minds on Jan 4, 2013

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Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4701 May 24, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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Sorry charlie once again but actually "the experts who designed the destruction of the Twin Towers" only had to spray explosive paint, and replace the ceiling tiles on every other floor of the buildings to accomplish their dastardly deed. Along with a few cutter charges on some vital support columns and 'viola' it all comes crashing down
WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE UNIGNITED NANOTHERMITES THEY FOUND IN THE DUST SAMPLES IN THAT EXPERIMENT? Niels Harritt, Steven Jones and other 9/11 controlled demolition theorists claim to have found nanothermite particles in dust samples from the World Trade Center. They made sure the dust samples were untainted, and used advanced instruments to measure what happened when these tiny red-grey chips were heated up.

Thermites reach temperatures of around 4500° and have their own oxygen supply when they burn, so they can burn underwater. Harritt, Jones, et. al. therefore should have heated up the chips in a nitrogen or argon atmosphere to eliminate the possibility that regular hydrocarbons were burning. They also failed to take the carbon-based products out of the mix, so what we may well be seeing is some kind of carbon-based product burning in oxygen. They compared the sudden energy spike of their burning chips with the spikes of known nanothermites, and found that their chips ignited at around 150° C. lower than the known nanothermites, and the energy release was off between their chips and the nanothermites by a factor of at least two. Yet they called this a match for nanothermite!

Attempts to independently replicate this experiment have been dismal. Mark Basile, who appeared in the acknowledgments of the original study, burned the chips in air, replicating the error of the original experiment and not even measuring the energy released. A chemist named Frédéric Henry-Couannier got another dust sample from the original experimenters and wrote,“Eventually the presence of nanothermite could not be confirmed.” The R.J. Lee Company did a 2003 study on the dust and didn’t find thermitic material.

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#4702 May 24, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Ah, Because they were allergic to being blown up real good and to bring it down uneven does not work, precise amounts in the right places is needed.
LMFAO!
Now this twist has forced the Jones/Harrit/Roberts crew to slightly alter their story-line. Now they are suggesting that this primer paint that was used in the towers was actually the super-secret explosive nano-thermite and that the big plan was to run around spraying the underside of the floor systems with “explosive paint”.
This is completely ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as Jim Hoffman’s “1.8 million ceiling tile bombs” theory…(almost). There is no way to control an even dispersal of paint on the underside of a floor system that is crowded with trusses, transverse trusses, cables, beams, and various other piping, AC ducts, ect… Without an even dispersal of the explosive, there is also no way of having a predictable outcome when it is ignited. Also, when paint is atomized to spray, fine particles of the dust dries and then falls in unexpected places. This dust would also be explosive.
And where did you get your degree in Controlled Explosive Demolition? How do you "know" what is needed and where.
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Who said there needs to be an even dispersal of explosive "paint".
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Oh yeah ... you said that. So what?
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Actually considering the evenness of all three collapses, basically straight down mostly into their own footprints, I'd say the dispersal of explosives was pretty well accomplished on all the structural members that needed to be taken out wouldn't you?
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They hired some really good painters Eh !
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Sorry charlie. Maybe you would feel better if you take the win by default trophy home and set it next to all the rest.
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Huh Eh !
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4703 May 24, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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And where did you get your degree in Controlled Explosive Demolition? How do you "know" what is needed and where.
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Who said there needs to be an even dispersal of explosive "paint".
YAWN!

Ah, Because they were allergic to being blown up real good and to bring it down uneven does not work, precise amounts in the right places is needed.

Now this twist has forced the Jones/Harrit/Roberts crew to slightly alter their story-line. Now they are suggesting that this primer paint that was used in the towers was actually the super-secret explosive nano-thermite and that the big plan was to run around spraying the underside of the floor systems with “explosive paint”.

This is completely ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as Jim Hoffman’s “1.8 million ceiling tile bombs” theory…(almost). There is no way to control an even dispersal of paint on the underside of a floor system that is crowded with trusses, transverse trusses, cables, beams, and various other piping, AC ducts, ect… Without an even dispersal of the explosive, there is also no way of having a predictable outcome when it is ignited. Also, when paint is atomized to spray, fine particles of the dust dries and then falls in unexpected places. This dust would also be explosive

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#4704 May 24, 2013
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#4705 May 24, 2013
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Since: Jun 09

Canada

#4706 May 24, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>Its not harmful to ones cred to post a video of somebody questioning a person, who 20 days after allegedly having his legs blown off, feels good enough to attend a hockey game and promote the propaganda of a strong Boston after it easily was under a martial law to stop a kid with a pipe bomb - and wave a big flag with his new stumps, wrapped in white bandages, banging up and down to balance himself enough to do it.

Now what the lunatic himself who made the video believes is irrelevant to me. The interesting part, and the reason I posted it, was the image of the guy waving the flag and all the effort it took him to do it so close to such a traumatic event... Not your shallow Canadian interpretations of my motivations, or your inability to recognize good character from bad.

Man, you are one unoriginal bad character.

That's really why

Insults Are Easier
Sorry, I forgot you don't have any credibility and are just a traitor to your country.

Steel plating.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#4707 May 24, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>And where did you get your degree in Controlled Explosive Demolition?
You honestly don't realize how funny that is do you?

And how ironic!

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Since: Jul 11

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#4708 May 24, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
YAWN!
Ah, Because they were allergic to being blown up real good and to bring it down uneven does not work, precise amounts in the right places is needed.
Now this twist has forced the Jones/Harrit/Roberts crew to slightly alter their story-line.
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Now they are suggesting that this primer paint that was used in the towers was actually the super-secret explosive nano-thermite and that the big plan was to run around spraying the underside of the floor systems with “explosive paint”.
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This is completely ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as Jim Hoffman’s “1.8 million ceiling tile bombs” theory…(almost). There is no way to control an even dispersal of paint on the underside of a floor system that is crowded with trusses, transverse trusses, cables, beams, and various other piping, AC ducts, ect… Without an even dispersal of the explosive, there is also no way of having a predictable outcome when it is ignited. Also, when paint is atomized to spray, fine particles of the dust dries and then falls in unexpected places. This dust would also be explosive
I'd say it worked pretty good considering all the trouble sorry charlie says the painters had trying to get an even coating on all the necessary parts that needed to be taken out, explosive overspray and all.
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Job well done despite the horrendous obstacles to success that sorry charlie says they must have had.
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Oh and the explosive thin film sandwich ceiling tiles was a great idea doncha think?
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Far from being ridiculous, it worked like a charm.
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Huh Eh !

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#4709 May 24, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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NIST was working with LLNL to test and characterize these sol-gel nano-thermites, at least as early as 1999 (Tillotson et al 1999).
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Forman Williams, the lead engineer on NIST’s advisory committee, and the most prominent engineering expert for Popular Mechanics, is an expert on the deflagration of energetic materials and the “ignition of porous energetic materials”(Margolis and Williams 1996, Telengator et al 1998, Margolis and Williams 1999).
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Nano-thermites are porous energetic materials.
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Additionally, Williams’ research partner, Stephen Margolis, has presented at conferences where nano-energetics are the focus (Gordon 1999).
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Yawn
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Next! Huh eh !
You left that part out. It certainly seems more relevant than the agreement in 2003 that you posted about. Okay, they were working on such technologies as early as 1998, any evidence that they actually developed anything that would have been ready for use in 2001? Obviously they were not working in total secrecy, so what are the babies of this union and when were they born?

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Since: Jul 11

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#4710 May 24, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>You left that part out. It certainly seems more relevant than the agreement in 2003 that you posted about. Okay, they were working on such technologies as early as 1998, any evidence that they actually developed anything that would have been ready for use in 2001? Obviously they were not working in total secrecy, so what are the babies of this union and when were they born?
First of all, they always work in total secrecy. Second, of course there is massive evidence that NIST and other government entities successfully developed exotic nano-thermate type explosives that were ready for use on 9/11.
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The fuhking buildings exploded and fell down didn't they?
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It ain't rocket science! Huh Eh !
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That's all you idiot bwunkers need to know.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4711 May 25, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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I'd say it worked pretty good considering all the trouble sorry charlie says the painters had trying to get an even coating on all the necessary parts that needed to be taken out, explosive overspray and all.
And under-spray, you admit the parts were necessary to take out but any lack or over abundance of spray on thermite is not an issue?

LMFAO! That makes sense, if I adjust my tin foil hat.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4712 May 25, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all, they always work in total secrecy. Second, of course there is massive evidence that NIST and other government entities successfully developed exotic nano-thermate type explosives that were ready for use on 9/11.
WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE UNIGNITED NANOTHERMITES THEY FOUND IN THE DUST SAMPLES IN THAT EXPERIMENT? Niels Harritt, Steven Jones and other 9/11 controlled demolition theorists claim to have found nanothermite particles in dust samples from the World Trade Center. They made sure the dust samples were untainted, and used advanced instruments to measure what happened when these tiny red-grey chips were heated up.

Thermites reach temperatures of around 4500° and have their own oxygen supply when they burn, so they can burn underwater. Harritt, Jones, et. al. therefore should have heated up the chips in a nitrogen or argon atmosphere to eliminate the possibility that regular hydrocarbons were burning. They also failed to take the carbon-based products out of the mix, so what we may well be seeing is some kind of carbon-based product burning in oxygen. They compared the sudden energy spike of their burning chips with the spikes of known nanothermites, and found that their chips ignited at around 150° C. lower than the known nanothermites, and the energy release was off between their chips and the nanothermites by a factor of at least two. Yet they called this a match for nanothermite!

Attempts to independently replicate this experiment have been dismal. Mark Basile, who appeared in the acknowledgments of the original study, burned the chips in air, replicating the error of the original experiment and not even measuring the energy released. A chemist named Frédéric Henry-Couannier got another dust sample from the original experimenters and wrote,“Eventually the presence of nanothermite could not be confirmed.” The R.J. Lee Company did a 2003 study on the dust and didn’t find thermitic material.

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Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#4713 May 25, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Regardless of how thermite materials were installed in the WTC, it is strange that NIST has been so blind to any such possibility.
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In fact, when reading NIST’s reports on the WTC, and its periodic responses to FAQs from the public, one might get the idea that no one in the NIST organization had ever heard of nano-thermites before.
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But the truth is, many of the scientists and organizations involved in the NIST WTC investigation were not only well aware of nano-thermites, they actually had considerable connection to, and in some cases expertise in, this exact technology.
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Here are three of the top ten reasons why nano-thermites, and nano-thermite coatings, should have come to mind quickly for the NIST WTC investigators.
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NIST was working with LLNL to test and characterize these sol-gel nano-thermites, at least as early as 1999 (Tillotson et al 1999).
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Forman Williams, the lead engineer on NIST’s advisory committee, and the most prominent engineering expert for Popular Mechanics, is an expert on the deflagration of energetic materials and the “ignition of porous energetic materials”(Margolis and Williams 1996, Telengator et al 1998, Margolis and Williams 1999).
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Nano-thermites are porous energetic materials. Additionally, Williams’ research partner, Stephen Margolis, has presented at conferences where nano-energetics are the focus (Gordon 1999).
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Some of Williams’ other colleagues at the University of California San Diego, like David J. Benson, are also experts on nano-thermite materials (Choi et al 2005, Jordan et al 2007).
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Science Applications International (SAIC) is the DOD and Homeland Security contractor that supplied the largest contingent of non-governmental investigators to the NIST WTC investigation.
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SAIC has extensive links to nano-thermites, developing and judging nano-thermite research proposals for the military and other military contractors, and developing and formulating nano-thermites directly (Army 2008, DOD 2007).
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SAIC’s subsidiary Applied Ordnance Technology has done research on the ignition of nanothermites with lasers (Howard et al 2005).
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In an interesting COINCIDENCE, SAIC was the firm that investigated the 1993 WTC bombing, boasting that --“After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, our blast analyses produced tangible results that helped identify those responsible (SAIC 2004).”
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And the COINCIDENCES with this company don’t stop there, as SAIC was responsible for evaluating the WTC for terrorism risks in 1986 as well (CRHC 2008).
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SAIC is also linked to the late 1990s security upgrades at the WTC, the Rudy Giuliani administration, and the anthrax incidents after 9/11, through former employees Jerome Hauer and Steven Hatfill.
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And we all know terrorists never use explosives of any kind.(Sarcasm for those who need a hint)
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And of course we all believe in COINCIDENCES don't we?
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And government Magik Huh Eh !
There was no thermite because thermite is useless for sequential demolition.

Thermite is not an explosive so nano thermite was not used either.

There is no evidence of thermite.

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Since: Jul 11

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#4714 May 25, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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And under-spray, you admit the parts were necessary to take out but any lack or over abundance of spray on thermite is not an issue?
LMFAO! That makes sense, if I adjust my tin foil hat.
Let's see ... the more explosive used, the bigger the bang.
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Yeah that works!
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Don't let your tin foil hat slip down over your eyes so you can't see what's in front of your face you fuhking moron!
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Huh Eh !

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#4715 May 25, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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Who told you that? And who told them?
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Anybody can have an opinion about things I guess.
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Or believe in Magik Huh eh !
It is obvious if you find out how thermite actually works. Thermite works like a cutting torch. It also helps if you know how to do gas welding and cutting.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#4716 May 25, 2013
Thermite is NOT an explosive.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#4717 May 25, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>First of all, they always work in total secrecy. Second, of course there is massive evidence that NIST and other government entities successfully developed exotic nano-thermate type explosives that were ready for use on 9/11.
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The fuhking buildings exploded and fell down didn't they?
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It ain't rocket science! Huh Eh !
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That's all you idiot bwunkers need to know.
You fail at using two sticks to make fire science oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots STREET CORNER JEEBUS.

Have any of your charlatan masters told you how thick a coating would have to be to facilitate total collapse?

Nope, you blindly accept what they say sans qualification.

Twoofer pseudoscience fails for one reason and one reason only.

It's all an illusion perpetuated by delusion...you being the one responsible for the delusion portion.

“Trolls are Clueless”

Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#4718 May 25, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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You fail at using two sticks to make fire science oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots STREET CORNER JEEBUS.
Have any of your charlatan masters told you how thick a coating would have to be to facilitate total collapse?
Nope, you blindly accept what they say sans qualification.
Twoofer pseudoscience fails for one reason and one reason only.
It's all an illusion perpetuated by delusion...you being the one responsible for the delusion portion.
YUPPERS!!!

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Since: Jul 11

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#4719 May 25, 2013
Hratch Semerjian, long-time director of NIST’s chemical division, was promoted to acting director of NIST in November 2004, and took over the WTC investigation until the completion of the report on the towers.
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Semerjian is closely linked to former NIST employee Michael Zachariah, perhaps the world’s most prominent expert on nano-thermites (Zachariah 2008).
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In fact, Semerjian and Zachariah co-authored ten papers that focus on nano-particles made of silica, ceramics and refractory particles.
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Zachariah was a major player in the Defense University Research Initiative on Nanotechnology (DURINT), a groundbreaking research effort for nano-thermites.
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NIST has a long-standing partnership with NASA for the development of new nano-thermites and other nano-technological materials.
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In fact, Michael Zachariah coordinates this partnership (CNMM 2008).
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In 2003, two years before the NIST WTC report was issued, the University of Maryland College Park (UMCP) and NIST signed a memorandum of understanding to develop nano-technologies like nano-thermites (NIST 2003).
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Together, NIST and UMCP have done much work on nano-thermites (NM2 2008).
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It worked so good on the WTC towers they had to know more about this new type of nano-thermate explosive that can be spray painted on any surface and exploded months or years later with no one being the wiser.
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Deceptive isn't it? Huh Eh !

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Since: Jul 11

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#4720 May 25, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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Sorry, I forgot you don't have any credibility and are just a traitor to your country.
Steel plating.
And you, pig, are a traitor to TWO countries neither of which are yours. The Canadian people are ashamed of you.
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titanium engines turned to dust
no debate

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