Was 911 an Inside Job

Was 911 an Inside Job

Created by inquiring minds on Jan 4, 2013

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“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#4620 May 22, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Haha look at whats above me?

Dumb and dumber.

Insults Are Easier
Tell us again how free fall/symmetry/molten steel=cd...

Oh right, you can't.

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#4622 May 22, 2013
pig, tell us again how government investigation of themselves on 9/11 = reality / truth....

Oh right, you can't!?!?!?!?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4623 May 22, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
pig, tell us again how government investigation of themselves on 9/11 = reality / truth....
Oh right, you can't!?!?!?!?
3. Why did NIST conduct this investigation?

NIST SCIENTISTS AND ENGINEERS ARE WORLD-RENOWNED EXPERTS IN ANALYZING A BUILDING’S FAILURE AND DETERMINING THE MOST PROBABLE TECHNICAL CAUSE. SINCE NIST IS NOT A REGULATORY AGENCY AND DOES NOT ISSUE BUILDING STANDARDS OR CODES, IT IS VIEWED AS A NEUTRAL,“THIRD PARTY” INVESTIGATOR.

Under the National Construction Safety Team (NCST) Act, NIST investigations are conducted to establish the likely technical causes of the building failure and evaluate the technical aspects of evacuation and emergency response procedures in the wake of such failures. The goal is to recommend improvements to the way in which buildings are designed, constructed, maintained, and used
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#4624 May 22, 2013
Well, this thread is titled "Was 911 an Inside Job," and there is another titled "Was 911 a Conspiracy."

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#4625 May 22, 2013
That's a bit redundant, you think?

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#4626 May 22, 2013
Have a great day, all. :)
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4627 May 22, 2013
Charlie Sheen Sucks wrote:
Sorry Charlie and his topix butt buddies SUCK
Someone figured out how to shut of Netnanny, just wait till mom finds out!

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#4628 May 22, 2013
Regardless of how thermite materials were installed in the WTC, it is strange that NIST has been so blind to any such possibility.
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In fact, when reading NIST’s reports on the WTC, and its periodic responses to FAQs from the public, one might get the idea that no one in the NIST organization had ever heard of nano-thermites before.
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But the truth is, many of the scientists and organizations involved in the NIST WTC investigation were not only well aware of nano-thermites, they actually had considerable connection to, and in some cases expertise in, this exact technology.
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Here are three of the top ten reasons why nano-thermites, and nano-thermite coatings, should have come to mind quickly for the NIST WTC investigators.
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NIST was working with LLNL to test and characterize these sol-gel nano-thermites, at least as early as 1999 (Tillotson et al 1999).
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Forman Williams, the lead engineer on NIST’s advisory committee, and the most prominent engineering expert for Popular Mechanics, is an expert on the deflagration of energetic materials and the “ignition of porous energetic materials”(Margolis and Williams 1996, Telengator et al 1998, Margolis and Williams 1999).
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Nano-thermites are porous energetic materials. Additionally, Williams’ research partner, Stephen Margolis, has presented at conferences where nano-energetics are the focus (Gordon 1999).
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Some of Williams’ other colleagues at the University of California San Diego, like David J. Benson, are also experts on nano-thermite materials (Choi et al 2005, Jordan et al 2007).
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Science Applications International (SAIC) is the DOD and Homeland Security contractor that supplied the largest contingent of non-governmental investigators to the NIST WTC investigation.
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SAIC has extensive links to nano-thermites, developing and judging nano-thermite research proposals for the military and other military contractors, and developing and formulating nano-thermites directly (Army 2008, DOD 2007).
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SAIC’s subsidiary Applied Ordnance Technology has done research on the ignition of nanothermites with lasers (Howard et al 2005).
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In an interesting COINCIDENCE, SAIC was the firm that investigated the 1993 WTC bombing, boasting that --“After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, our blast analyses produced tangible results that helped identify those responsible (SAIC 2004).”
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And the COINCIDENCES with this company don’t stop there, as SAIC was responsible for evaluating the WTC for terrorism risks in 1986 as well (CRHC 2008).
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SAIC is also linked to the late 1990s security upgrades at the WTC, the Rudy Giuliani administration, and the anthrax incidents after 9/11, through former employees Jerome Hauer and Steven Hatfill.
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And we all know terrorists never use explosives of any kind.(Sarcasm for those who need a hint)
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And of course we all believe in COINCIDENCES don't we?
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And government Magik Huh Eh !
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4629 May 22, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Regardless of how thermite materials were installed in the WTC, it is strange that NIST has been so blind to any such possibility.
I bet they were installed by 20 imaginary pilots eh!

WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE UNIGNITED NANOTHERMITES THEY FOUND IN THE DUST SAMPLES IN THAT EXPERIMENT? Niels Harritt, Steven Jones and other 9/11 controlled demolition theorists claim to have found nanothermite particles in dust samples from the World Trade Center. They made sure the dust samples were untainted, and used advanced instruments to measure what happened when these tiny red-grey chips were heated up.

Thermites reach temperatures of around 4500° and have their own oxygen supply when they burn, so they can burn underwater. Harritt, Jones, et. al. therefore should have heated up the chips in a nitrogen or argon atmosphere to eliminate the possibility that regular hydrocarbons were burning. They also failed to take the carbon-based products out of the mix, so what we may well be seeing is some kind of carbon-based product burning in oxygen. They compared the sudden energy spike of their burning chips with the spikes of known nanothermites, and found that their chips ignited at around 150° C. lower than the known nanothermites, and the energy release was off between their chips and the nanothermites by a factor of at least two. Yet they called this a match for nanothermite!

Attempts to independently replicate this experiment have been dismal. Mark Basile, who appeared in the acknowledgments of the original study, burned the chips in air, replicating the error of the original experiment and not even measuring the energy released. A chemist named Frédéric Henry-Couannier got another dust sample from the original experimenters and wrote,“Eventually the presence of nanothermite could not be confirmed.” The R.J. Lee Company did a 2003 study on the dust and didn’t find thermitic material.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4630 May 22, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
pig, tell us again how government investigation of themselves on 9/11 = reality / truth....
Oh right, you can't!?!?!?!?
NIST conducted an extremely thorough three-year investigation that included consideration of a number of hypotheses for the collapses of the WTC towers.

Some 200 technical experts—including about 85 career NIST experts AND 125 LEADING EXPERTS FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND ACADEMIA

—reviewed tens of thousands of documents, interviewed more than 1,000 people, reviewed 7,000 segments of video footage and 7,000 photographs, analyzed 236 pieces of steel from the wreckage, performed laboratory tests, and created sophisticated computer simulations of the sequence of events that occurred from the moment the aircraft struck the towers until they began to collapse.

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#4631 May 22, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
NIST conducted an extremely thorough three-year investigation that included consideration of a number of hypotheses for the collapses of the WTC towers.
Some 200 technical experts—including about 85 career NIST experts AND 125 LEADING EXPERTS FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND ACADEMIA
—reviewed tens of thousands of documents, interviewed more than 1,000 people, reviewed 7,000 segments of video footage and 7,000 photographs, analyzed 236 pieces of steel from the wreckage, performed laboratory tests, and created sophisticated computer simulations of the sequence of events that occurred from the moment the aircraft struck the towers until they began to collapse.
Extremely thorough? That's a joke isn't it?
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Was one of their hypotheses for the collapses of the WTC towers, the deliberate use of any energetic materials besides jet fuel?
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Or maybe they investigated the govie's use of Magik also? Huh Eh!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4632 May 22, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
Extremely thorough? That's a joke isn't it?
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Was one of their hypotheses for the collapses of the WTC towers, the deliberate use of any energetic materials besides jet fuel?
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Or maybe they investigated the govie's use of Magik also? Huh Eh!
Avoiding the debunked claim that the investigation was solely from the public sector as you use the jet fuel straw man 20 pilot boy?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#4633 May 22, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
pig, tell us again how government investigation of themselves on 9/11 = reality / truth....

Oh right, you can't!?!?!?!?
Tell us again how investigations in your little world of non-functioning elevators works oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots STREET CORNER JEEBUS.

Oh and tell us again how twoof gets everything wrong but is still a shillable product for idjits like yourself.

Oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots STREET CORNER JEEBUS!

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Since: Jun 09

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#4634 May 22, 2013
Jeez, is it thermite week in Twooferdumb again?!

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#4635 May 22, 2013
Most science-based investigators of the events of 9/11/2001 are reluctant to develop detailed hypotheses or conjectures for obvious reasons: to speculate about unknown events in a criminal conspiracy is to invite the label of "conspiracy theorist" with its weight of discrediting associations, unless, of course, one is parroting the speculations of the officially endorsed account.
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Never mind that NIST explains WTC7's destruction as the first-ever fire-induced collapse of a steel-frame high-rise building with the refreshingly novel failure mechanism -- supported by no physical evidence whatsoever -- that thermally induced expansion of a huge beam caused it to break loose of its connections and crash down, taking the rest of the skyscraper with it.
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It is the skeptics of this fairy tale that New York Times reporter Eric Lipton calls conspiracy theorists.[1]Â
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The chief apologists for the official story seem to want it both ways.
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On the one hand, they stigmatize anyone who questions the official version of events as a "conspiracy theorist".
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On the other, they fault the same intellectual dissidents for not articulating a detailed theory of the crime, as Ryan Mackey does here.
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How interesting that the conspiracy theorist label remains the first line of defense against the consideration of alternative hypotheses, while the main arguments against controlled demolition of the Twin Towers appeal to alleged difficulties in implementation -- arguments that can only be answered through postulating hypothetical scenarios.
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As in "probable collapse sequence".
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Or Magik Huh Eh !
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4636 May 22, 2013
Most science-based investigators of the events of 9/11/2001 are reluctant to develop detailed hypotheses or conjectures ABOUT THE 20 FAKE PILOTS WHO COULD NOT HIT THE WTC, WELL OTHER THAN THE SPASTIC DOC.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#4637 May 22, 2013
The only majiks on this thread would have to be oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots STREET CORNER JEEBUS findng the "ON" switch on his computor...unless they leave that one on in the 7/11 24/7....which would make more sense.

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#4638 May 22, 2013
There is direct evidence for two broad types of thermitic pyrotechnics in the destruction of the Twin Towers:
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Incendiaries, consisting of thermate or thermate possibly with additives such as barium nitrate
explosives, consisting of aluminothermic nanocomposites including compounds rich in silicon, carbon, and hydrogen to enhance blast pressure
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This following scenario reflects this dichotomy in postulating that two distinct stages comprised the demolition of each Tower: a first stage in which strategically-placed thermitic incendiaries attack steelwork while the Tower is still standing, and a second stage in which widely distributed thermitic explosives shatter the Tower from top to bottom.
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The destruction of each of the Twin Towers was accomplished by an almost identical overall sequence, consisting of two stages -- a slow first stage, in which key portions of the steelwork are melted and corroded, and a rapid second stage, in which key structures are broken, and the entire Tower is systematically pulverized from the crash zones down.
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It ain't Magik at all when you analyze it. Huh Eh !

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#4639 May 22, 2013
The pyrotechnics used in the destruction of the WTC towers are of three types, all based on aluminothermic reactions: an incendiary used in the Stage 1, and two types of explosives used in Stage 2:
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Thermate incendiary coating compound: A mixture of aluminum powder, iron oxide powder, sulfur and other additives in a binder.
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Applied in a liquid form like paint, it dries to form a durable coating that requires a high-temperature igniter to start the reaction by heating a spot to the 2,200ºC ignition temperature.
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Nanothermite kicker charge: A large forceful charge with relatively low brisance based on a nano-thermite explosive that is stable up to a very high temperature and pressure, such as supplied by a built-in detonator.
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A protective insulating capsule is shaped like a fire-extinguisher bottle.
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Aluminothermic nanocomposite sheet: A thin layer of a nanocomposite aluminothermic material laminated onto a thin brittle slab of iron oxides and hydroxides.
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The material deflagrates (burns gradually) when elevated to 430ºC, but detonates with high brisance only when extremely high temperature and pressure, such as provided by a micro-detonator, is applied to any part of its surface.
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See how easy this is! Not Magik at all. Huh Eh !
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4640 May 23, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
The pyrotechnics used in the destruction of the WTC towers are of three types, all based on aluminothermic reactions: an incendiary used in the Stage 1, and two types of explosives used in Stage 2:
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Thermate incendiary coating compound: A mixture of aluminum powder, iron oxide powder, sulfur and other additives in a binder.
WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE UNIGNITED NANOTHERMITES THEY FOUND IN THE DUST SAMPLES IN THAT EXPERIMENT? Niels Harritt, Steven Jones and other 9/11 controlled demolition theorists claim to have found nanothermite particles in dust samples from the World Trade Center. They made sure the dust samples were untainted, and used advanced instruments to measure what happened when these tiny red-grey chips were heated up.

Thermites reach temperatures of around 4500° and have their own oxygen supply when they burn, so they can burn underwater. Harritt, Jones, et. al. therefore should have heated up the chips in a nitrogen or argon atmosphere to eliminate the possibility that regular hydrocarbons were burning. They also failed to take the carbon-based products out of the mix, so what we may well be seeing is some kind of carbon-based product burning in oxygen. They compared the sudden energy spike of their burning chips with the spikes of known nanothermites, and found that their chips ignited at around 150° C. lower than the known nanothermites, and the energy release was off between their chips and the nanothermites by a factor of at least two. Yet they called this a match for nanothermite!

Attempts to independently replicate this experiment have been dismal. Mark Basile, who appeared in the acknowledgments of the original study, burned the chips in air, replicating the error of the original experiment and not even measuring the energy released. A chemist named Frédéric Henry-Couannier got another dust sample from the original experimenters and wrote,“Eventually the presence of nanothermite could not be confirmed.” The R.J. Lee Company did a 2003 study on the dust and didn’t find thermitic material.

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