Was 911 an Inside Job

Was 911 an Inside Job

Created by inquiring minds on Jan 4, 2013

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“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Edmonton, Canada

#4450 May 13, 2013
Bjork wrote:
WTC7 was not hit by a plane and fell all at once at free fall rate. A controlled building implosion, very hard to do!
So proxy sock, post the plethora of evidence that must exist which proves free fall=cd.

Oh, you don't have evidence. Just some stupid twoofer meme.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Edmonton, Canada

#4451 May 13, 2013
Brian wrote:
<quoted text>Actually there's plenty of evidence for explosives. Demolition light flashes are visible before and during the collapse of both towers. Separate pockets of smoke are visible coming out of both towers as they're collapsing. These pockets of smoke are actually exiting the buildings below where the collapse is occurring. Also, explain something to me. If there were no explosives in those buildings, and only the floors impacted by the airplanes were on fire, why is there smoke coming out of the buildings as they are falling? If it was only a collapsing buildings, you would have no smoke coming out of the buildings.
Jeez, why would a building with multi-floor fires have smoke coming out of it?

HVAC, how the hell does it work!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Edmonton, Canada

#4452 May 13, 2013
Zdenek Bazant wrote:
<quoted text>dazzle them with math (even though it makes no sense), that's why they hired me to support the official fairytale.
Math that's accepted by the vast majority of structural experts all over the world...

Math that twoofers can only hope to hand wave away...

Math that goes over the little heads of 99.9999% of all twoofers....

Math, how the hell does it work...eh?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Edmonton, Canada

#4453 May 13, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
D dt (Z z(t) 0 &#956;(S)s&#729;(S)dS ) &#8722; g Z z(t) 0 &#956;(S)dS = &#8722; Fc(z, z&#729;)(1) 3 where t = time, z = vertical (Lagrangian) coordinate = distance of the current crushing front from the initial position of the tower top; the superior dots denote time derivatives; &#956;(S)= initial specific mass of tower (mass of a story divided by its height) at point of initial coordinate S; s&#729;(S)= velocity of material point with initial coordinate S. It will suffice to consider the velocity, as well as the momentum density, to be distributed throughout the compacted layer linearly. With these approximations, the crush-down differential equation of motion becomes: d dt ( m0[1 &#8722; (z)] dz
dt + &#956;cl 2 [2 &#8722; (z)] dz dt ) &#8722; m(z)g = &#8722;Fc(z, z&#729;)(crush-down)(2) while the crush-up differential equation of motion has the same form as Eq. 17 of Bazant and Verdure (2007): m(y)( d dt " [1 &#8722; (y)] dy dt #+ g )= Fc(y, y&#729;)(crush-up)(3) Here Eq.(2) represents a refinement of Eq. 12 of Bazant and Verdure (2007), while Eq.(3) is identical to their Eq. 17 because the compacted layer is stationary during crush-up. Furthermore, l = height of compacted layer B, &#956;c = specific mass of compacted layer B per unit height, which is considered to be constant and equal to the maximum possible density of compacted debris; m(z)= cumulative up to level z, which was assumed by Bazant and Verdure (2007) to consist only of energy Fb (per unit height) consumed by buckling of steel columns. In calculations, the large fluctuations of Fb as a function of z or y (evident in Figs. 3 and 4 of Ba&#711;zant and Verdure, 2007) are neglected, i.e., Fb is smoothly homogenized. As a refinement of previous analysis, we introduce here a generalization in which we add energy Fs (per unit height) consumed by continuated bifurcation of concrete floor slabs, energy Fa required to expel air from the tower, and energy Fe required to accelerate the mass of dust and larger fragments
Ejected from the tower during the impact of upper part; Furthermore, in contrast to previous studies, the compaction ratio will not be assumed as a constant but will be more accurately calculated as (z)=(1&#8722; out)&#9 56;(z)/&#956;c, and out = mass shedding fraction = fraction of mass that escapes outside tower perimeter before the end of crush-down (not afterwards). Note that Eq.(2) may be rewritten as Plethora of Prolific Paid Professionals Parroting Puppetmaster Program Purporting Prepared Pronouncement of Perfunctorily Planted Plane Pieces and Parts Positively Proven Propaganda Paints a Picture of [m0(1&#8722; )+&#956;c l(1&#8722;0.5 )]z¨&#87 22;mg = &#8722;Fm& #8722;Fc, Fm =[m0(1&#8722; )+&#956; cl(1&#8722;0.5 )]&#729 ; z&#729; = &# 956;¯z& #729;2 (5) where Fm = force required to accelerate to velocity z&#729; the stationary mass accreting at the crushing front, and ¯&#956; = d[m0(1 &#8722; )+ &# 956;cl(1 &#8722; 0.5 )]/dz. This force causes a greater difference from free fall than do forces Fb, Fs, Fa and Fe combined. Upon setting v = z&#729;, Eq.(2) or (5) was converted to a system of two nonlinear first-order differential equations for unknowns v(t) and z(t), which were then integrated numerically with high accuracy using the Runge-Kutta algorithm (note that, for the idealized special case of = Fc = out = 0 and constant &#956; = dm/dz, Eq.(2) reduces to the differential equation (zz&#729;)&#729; = gz, which was formulated and solved by finite differences by Kausel, 2001). As the initial conditions, it is considered that the crushing front initiates at the 96th story in the North Tower, and at the 81st story in the South Tower (NIST 2005).
Dat's wat I'm talking bout
No it isn't.

You're so stupid you though sealed elevators sounded good.

THAT'S what you're talking about.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#4454 May 13, 2013
Whatsamatter pig, you trying desperately to catch up?
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You got some bwunking to do here. Get on it!?!?!?
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Let's see you explain your acidic persona via mathematics.
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Maybe getcher buddy Bazant to help you.

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#4455 May 13, 2013
WOW ..... just when you think Twoofer Stupidity has hit rock bottom a post like this comes along !?!??!?!?!
Brian wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually there's plenty of evidence for explosives. Demolition light flashes are visible before and during the collapse of both towers. Separate pockets of smoke are visible coming out of both towers as they're collapsing. These pockets of smoke are actually exiting the buildings below where the collapse is occurring. Also, explain something to me. If there were no explosives in those buildings, and only the floors impacted by the airplanes were on fire, why is there smoke coming out of the buildings as they are falling? If it was only a collapsing buildings, you would have no smoke coming out of the buildings.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4456 May 13, 2013
LMFAO, One of the new leading intellects is in love with a girl from a Disney show for 13 year old girls.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TPN4BI7...

I think the authorities need to check out his basement and crawlspace.

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#4457 May 13, 2013
That's very disturbing !!!!
Charlie Sheen wrote:
LMFAO, One of the new leading intellects is in love with a girl from a Disney show for 13 year old girls.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TPN4BI7...
I think the authorities need to check out his basement and crawlspace.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4458 May 13, 2013
RADEKT wrote:
That's very disturbing !!!!
<quoted text>
Oh my God, Different thread!

http://www.topix.com/forum/who/miranda-cosgro...

And the other one!

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TPN4BI7...

Where is this guy when you need him!

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#4459 May 13, 2013
RADEKT wrote:
WOW ..... just when you think Twoofer Stupidity has hit rock bottom a post like this comes along !?!??!?!?!
<quoted text>
Is that why you are walking around with a thousand yard stare on your face and your head is filled with a sense of wonder?
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Or is that Magik huh eh !
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4460 May 13, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that why you are walking around with a thousand yard stare on your face and your head is filled with a sense of wonder?
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Or is that Magik huh eh !
The man who created the single most influential piece of propaganda about the 9/11 conspiracy is now ambivalent about the movement he helped make popular. "There's a certain thing called tact that you need when you're dealing with the public," says Dylan Avery, director of the film Loose Change, released in 2005 and since viewed tens of millions of times online. "And I think that is a certain approach that a lot of people lack."

Avery should know. He has been accused of being a traitor, a spy, or—slightly more charitably—just plain "sloppy." According to 9/11 conspiracy proponent Michael Ruppert, the movement has been hurt by its acceptance of some of the (relatively speaking) more absurd notions that were featured prominently in the early versions of Loose Change, notions that he says were planted as disinformation by those looking to discredit conspiracists. "That's one of many reasons why I completely cut myself off from the 9/11 Truth movement in 2004," Ruppert says. "They just swallowed too many poison pills."
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4461 May 13, 2013
That's the thing about conspiracy theories and the people who believe in them: One man's poison pill is another's smoking gun. For much of the decade, 9/11 conspiracy theorists were united by (and benefited from) opposition to the war and hatred of George Bush. Not even direct assaults on the facts underlying their theories had much impact. As it turns out—as it usually turns out with conspiracy theories—the people most adept at weakening the "9/11 Truth" movement were the truthers themselves. Because conspiracy theorists can't just have disagreements. If you disagree with a conspiracy theorist, then you probably belong to the conspiracy.
free fall

Logan, WV

#4462 May 13, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
So proxy sock, post the plethora of evidence that must exist which proves free fall=cd.
Oh, you don't have evidence. Just some stupid twoofer meme.
free fall can only happen if you remove ALL resistance to collapse...and that can only happen if the lower floors are demolished by explosives...and even then there is still some resistance...that's why it wasn't quite free fall accleration, but very close to it.
A 'pancake' collapse would meet resistance at each successive floor and at some point the resistance would overcome the initiating force of the collapse and would have halted the collapse sequence...this is why controlled demolitions take extensive planning in order to remove the supports that offer the resistance...simple engineering and physics pork, that not even Bazant can hand wave away with his fancy math.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#4463 May 13, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
That's the thing about conspiracy theories and the people who believe in them: One man's poison pill is another's smoking gun. For much of the decade, 9/11 conspiracy theorists were united by (and benefited from) opposition to the war and hatred of George Bush. Not even direct assaults on the facts underlying their theories had much impact. As it turns out—as it usually turns out with conspiracy theories—the people most adept at weakening the "9/11 Truth" movement were the truthers themselves. Because conspiracy theorists can't just have disagreements. If you disagree with a conspiracy theorist, then you probably belong to the conspiracy.
Correctamundo

All you bwunkers disagree with the conspiracy theorists, and you obviously do belong to the conspiracy.

Meaning the the original govie conspirators of the 9/11 false flag, black ops for political gain thingy.
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Nobody "hates" George Bush. We just want to see him in jail where he belongs.
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Unless you believe in Magik Huh Eh !
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4464 May 13, 2013
LMFAO! So if it is free-fall it's demolition and if it is NOT free-fall it is demolition.

And to think you have wasted 12 years arguing it was freefall when you could have been playing World Of Warcraft or trying to find female companionship.
free fall wrote:
<quoted text>
free fall can only happen if you remove ALL resistance to collapse...and that can only happen if the lower floors are demolished by explosives...and even then there is still some resistance...that's why it wasn't quite free fall accleration, but very close to it.
free fall

Logan, WV

#4465 May 13, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
LMFAO! So if it is free-fall it's demolition and if it is NOT free-fall it is demolition.
And to think you have wasted 12 years arguing it was freefall when you could have been playing World Of Warcraft or trying to find female companionship.
<quoted text>
(near) free fall=no resistance=demolition
capisce stronzo?

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#4466 May 13, 2013
no resistance + free fall + no free fall = "controlled demolition"
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Any way you look at it, its "controlled demolition". Hey looky its mathematically correct. Bazant would be proud.
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It Ain't Magik Huh Eh !
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4467 May 13, 2013
Yawn.
Not Freefall.
free fall wrote:
<quoted text>
(near) free fall=no resistance=demolition
capisce stronzo?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Edmonton, Canada

#4468 May 13, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Whatsamatter pig, you trying desperately to catch up?
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You got some bwunking to do here. Get on it!?!?!?
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Let's see you explain your acidic persona via mathematics.
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Maybe getcher buddy Bazant to help you.
I've lapped you so many times I could take the next three years off from spalling you around and still be ahead.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4469 May 13, 2013
free fall wrote:
<quoted text>
(near) free fall=no resistance=demolition
capisce stronzo?
Ahh,(Near) freefall means there was resistance.

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