Was 911 an Inside Job

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“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

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#4270 May 2, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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LOL, Don't you mean the lizards?
So you are a believer in ufo's and reptilians along with the official government story of 9/11 Eh !
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Do you believe in magik too? LOL too funny

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#4271 May 2, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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OK, so you are crazy.
No, your reply was simple, from a simple mind not able to comprehend anything I was talking about.
Otherwise, you would've said something specific, and intelligent.

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#4272 May 2, 2013
many wrote:
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yes, by the many govie shills
Yea right. Who is that? I see Twoofer Shills.

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#4273 May 2, 2013
Protester wrote:
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The FBI isn’t incompetent, it’s corrupt. Just look at their idol, the sicko who their headquarters is named after.
I’ve been told that agents have to agree to kill anybody they’re told to, without question or explanation.
However, the FBI still operates somewhat within the law. so Homeland Security was created to go along with the Patriot Act, NDAA, etc. which operate outside the law.
So, any of us can be held for no reason, with no attorney, for as long as they want. It’s all part of turning the U.S. into a police state to prevent us from fighting back when they destroy the USA and turn it into part of the New World Order.
It’s what most Americans deserve to be enslaved because they refuse to fight for their country. It’s not like anybody’s asking them to train and shoot. Worst of all are gutless conservatives who won’t join the protestors and spit on those heroes like they did to returning veterans in the past.
Not really but welcome to your paranoid delusions.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4275 May 2, 2013
Protester wrote:
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They are the stockholders of the Federal Reserve Corp. and they get away with it because most Americans remain ignorant of the fact that the Fed is an illegal corp.
Your ignorance of the FR is amazing, tell me how it is illegal, big clue, it's been through the Court's, it's not.

And the FR has no stockholders in any traditional sense as the Fed makes no profit so nor would the stockholders.

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#4276 May 2, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Your ignorance of the FR is amazing, tell me how it is illegal, big clue, it's been through the Court's, it's not.
And the FR has no stockholders in any traditional sense as the Fed makes no profit so nor would the stockholders.
The Federal Reserve System makes no profit you say?
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What would be the point of a private corporation held by the Rothschilds Bank Of England if it didn't make any money?
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The Rothschilds don't do anything that doesn't make money.
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All of the world's Central Banks are owned by the Bank Of England and they certainly do make money.
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You DO Believe In Magic Don't You. Huh Eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

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#4277 May 3, 2013
“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country.
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A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated.
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The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men.
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We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”– Woodrow Wilson, after signing the US Federal Reserve System into existence in 1913.
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Oh by the way, one of the reasons Wilson did this was because he was being blackmailed for a scandalous affair he had previously engaged in.
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The Bank of England was created in 1694 by a Scotsman William Paterson who famously said:
"The bank hath benefit of interest on all moneys which it creates out of nothing." – William Paterson
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Up until 1946 when it was nationalized the Bank of England was a private run bank that lent money it created out of nothing to the English government and was paid back with interest.
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This is the same scheme with which the US Federal Reserve System manages the US economy to their benefit and enormous profit.
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However because the English government was broke after the second world war they didn’t have enough money to buy out all the shareholders so instead they were issued with government stocks.

Although the government now earned money from any bank profits they also had to pay interest on any new stock they issued to pay for the shares they couldn’t buy back in the first place.
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http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2013/01/who-own...
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Whoever thinks this is a not for profit organization also Believes In Magik Huh eh !

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#4278 May 3, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country.
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A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated.
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The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men.
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We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”– Woodrow Wilson, after signing the US Federal Reserve System into existence in 1913.
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Oh by the way, one of the reasons Wilson did this was because he was being blackmailed for a scandalous affair he had previously engaged in.
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The Bank of England was created in 1694 by a Scotsman William Paterson who famously said:
"The bank hath benefit of interest on all moneys which it creates out of nothing." – William Paterson
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Up until 1946 when it was nationalized the Bank of England was a private run bank that lent money it created out of nothing to the English government and was paid back with interest.
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This is the same scheme with which the US Federal Reserve System manages the US economy to their benefit and enormous profit.
.
However because the English government was broke after the second world war they didn’t have enough money to buy out all the shareholders so instead they were issued with government stocks.
Although the government now earned money from any bank profits they also had to pay interest on any new stock they issued to pay for the shares they couldn’t buy back in the first place.
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http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2013/01/who-own...
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Whoever thinks this is a not for profit organization also Believes In Magik Huh eh !
Excuse me. This is 2013 right? Woodrow Wilson dead for almost 100 years now. Please do try to keep up sweety.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4279 May 3, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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The Federal Reserve System makes no profit you say?
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What would be the point of a private corporation held by the Rothschilds Bank Of England if it didn't make any money?
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The Rothschilds don't do anything that doesn't make money.
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All of the world's Central Banks are owned by the Bank Of England and they certainly do make money.
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You DO Believe In Magic Don't You. Huh Eh !
Myth #3: The Federal Reserve is a privately owned bank that profits at taxpayer expense.

Reality: The member banks in each district privately own each of the 12 Federal Reserve banks. However, the government-appointed Board of Governors controls these banks. Also, the Federal Reserve System rebates almost all of its profits to the Treasury each year, actually REDUCING the taxpayer burden.

Myth #4: The Federal Reserve is owned and controlled by foreigners, who dictate monetary policy for their own benefit.

Reality: This is just not true. Each Federal Reserve bank is owned by member banks in that district. Individuals and non-bank institutions, foreign or domestic, are not allowed to own shares in any Federal Reserve bank. Again, the Board sets monetary policy not the Federal Reserve banks.

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#4280 May 3, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Myth #3: The Federal Reserve is a privately owned bank that profits at taxpayer expense.
Reality: The member banks in each district privately own each of the 12 Federal Reserve banks. However, the government-appointed Board of Governors controls these banks. Also, the Federal Reserve System rebates almost all of its profits to the Treasury each year, actually REDUCING the taxpayer burden.
Myth #4: The Federal Reserve is owned and controlled by foreigners, who dictate monetary policy for their own benefit.
Reality: This is just not true. Each Federal Reserve bank is owned by member banks in that district. Individuals and non-bank institutions, foreign or domestic, are not allowed to own shares in any Federal Reserve bank. Again, the Board sets monetary policy not the Federal Reserve banks.
Just like how you bwunkers think the government is the last true word on 9/11 (which it is not) the information you present about the Federal Reserve System must come from wiki or their own website because it is only what they want you to know about their business.
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Who is it who tells the "Board" what to do?
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Assuming you have sources for your erroneous presentation, you may post them for all to see.
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Do You Expect Us To Believe In Magik Huh eh !

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#4281 May 3, 2013
Chart 1 reveals the linear connection between the Rothschilds and the Bank of England, and the London banking houses which ultimately control the Federal Reserve Banks through their stockholdings of bank stock and their subsidiary firms in New York.
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The two principal Rothschild representatives in New York, J. P. Morgan Co., and Kuhn,Loeb & Co. were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island Conference at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted, who directed the subsequent successful campaign to have the plan enacted into law by Congress, and who purchased the controlling amounts of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in 1914.
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These firms had their principal officers appointed to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and the Federal Advisory Council in 1914.
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In 1914 a few families (blood or business related) owning controlling stock in existing banks (such as in New York City) caused those banks to purchase controlling shares in the Federal Reserve regional banks.
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Examination of the charts and text in the House Banking Committee Staff Report of August, 1976 and the current stockholders list of the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks show this same family control.
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http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whof...
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Or Do You believe In Magic? Huh eh

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

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#4282 May 3, 2013
Below are excerpts from a court case proving the Federal Reserve system's status. As you will see, the court ruled that the Federal Reserve Banks are "independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations", and there is not sufficient "federal government control over 'detailed physical performance' and 'day to day operation'" of the Federal Reserve Bank for it to be considered a federal agency:
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http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/frco...
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See it for yourself.
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Unless You Believe In Magik Huh Eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

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#4283 May 3, 2013
Affirmed.
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1. United States
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There are no sharp criteria for determining whether an entity is a federal agency within meaning of the Federal Tort Claims Act, but critical factor is existence of federal government control over "detailed physical performance" and "day to day operation" of an entity....
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2. United States
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Federal reserve banks are not federal instrumentalities for purposes of a Federal Tort Claims Act, but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations in light of fact that direct supervision and control of each bank is exercised by board of directors, federal reserve banks, though heavily regulated, are locally controlled by their member banks, banks are listed neither as "wholly owned" government corporations nor as "mixed ownership" corporations; federal reserve banks receive no appropriated funds from Congress and the banks are empowered to sue and be sued in their own names.
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http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/frco...
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Take a look in case you do:
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Believe In Magik Huh Eh !
PETE

Santa Cruz, CA

#4284 May 3, 2013
wtf?

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#4285 May 3, 2013
PETE wrote:
wtf?
WTF wants to know?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4286 May 3, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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Just like how you bwunkers think the government is the last true word on 9/11 (which it is not) the information you present about the Federal Reserve System must come from wiki or their own website because it is only what they want you to know about their business.
Prove me wrong, you can see it in their balance sheet.

NO PROOF. HOW ABOUT PROOF OF THOSE 20 PILOTS THAT COULD NOT FLY!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4287 May 3, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
2. United States
Federal reserve banks are not federal instrumentalities for purposes of a Federal Tort Claims Act,
YES, Only under the Tort claims act which has to do with negligence done to third parties, In other words if a board member runs over a kid with his car the US Governement can not be sued.

The law is like that, your residence/jurisdiction under voting laws is entirely different than your residence/jurisdiction under taxation laws.

BUT HEY, Can you tell ME WHAT OTHER TOTALLY PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE THIS REQUIREMENT

The Board is of Governors of the Federal Reserve is a 7-member panel who is appointed by the President of the United States and confirmed by the Senate (12 USCA §241).

Thus, all the key monetary policy decisions -- the ones that affect interest rates -- are made by a government agency whose members are selected by the President of the United States. The Fed may be privately owned, but it is controlled by the government.

Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4288 May 3, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Examination of the charts and text in the House Banking Committee Staff Report of August, 1976 and the current stockholders list of the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks show this same family control.
WRONG!

York Fed and the other Federal Reserve Banks. The New York Fed reports that its eight largest member banks on June 30, 1997 were:

Chase Manhatten Bank
Citibank
Morgan Guaranty Trust Company
Fleet Bank
Bankers Trust
Bank of New York
Marine Midland Bank, and
Summit Bank.3

All of the major shareholders seen here and all of the banks on the complete list are either nationally- or state-charted banks. All of them are American-owned.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#4289 May 3, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
The two principal Rothschild representatives in New York, J. P. Morgan Co., and Kuhn,Loeb & Co. were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island Conference at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted,
LMFAO, Jekyll island, How many times have I heard that myth!

The plan was rejected.

The Aldrich Plan called for a system of fifteen regional central banks, called National Reserve Associations, whose actions would be coordinated by a national board of commercial bankers. The Reserve Association would make emergency loans to member banks, create money to provide an elastic currency that could be exchanged equally for demand deposits, and would act as a fiscal agent for the federal government. Although it was defeated, the Aldrich Plan served as an outline for the bill that eventually was adopted.

The problem with the Aldrich Plan was that the regional banks would be controlled individually and nationally by bankers, a prospect that did not sit well with the populist Democratic party or with Wilson. As the debate began to take shape in the spring of 1913, Congressman Arsene Pujo provided good evidence that the nation’s credit markets were under the tight control of a handful of banks – the "money trusts" against which Wilson warned.1 Wilson and the Democrats wanted a reform measure which would decentralize control away from the money trusts.

The legislation that eventually emerged was the Federal Reserve Act, also known at the time as the Currency Bill, or the Owen-Glass Act. The bill called for a system of eight to twelve mostly autonomous regional Reserve Banks that would be owned by the banks in their region and whose actions would be coordinated by a Federal Reserve Board appointed by the President. The Board’s members originally included the Secretary of the Treasury, the Comptroller of the Currency, and other officials appointed by the President to represent public interests. The proposed Federal Reserve System would therefore be privately owned, but publicly controlled. Wilson signed the bill on December 23, 1913 and the Federal Reserve System was born.6
Chickpea

Lincoln, NE

#4290 May 3, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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Who is it who tells the "Board" what to do?
The GOVERNMENT!

Finally, at the top of the structure chart is the Board of Governors.

THE BOARD IS A 7-MEMBER PANEL WHO IS APPOINTED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND CONFIRMED BY THE SENATE (12 USCA §241).

The Board's current Chair is Alan Greenspan. Among its responsibilities:

• Determine open market policies
• Set the required reserve ratio for member banks
• Set the Discount Rate
• Deciding how much new currency to print
• Monitor the health of the U.S. economy
• Report to Congress periodically on the state of the U.S. economy

It's single most important duty is deciding its open market policy, that is, whether it should order the Federal Reserve Banks to buy or sell government bonds, and if so, how much. This decision is made in conjunction with the Federal Open Market Committee. The FOMC is a 12-member panel can consists of all the Board members, the president of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, and 4 presidents from the other Federal Reserve Banks on a rotating basis. The presidents are appointed by each Bank's board of directors, pending approval from the Board of Governors (12 USCA §341).

THUS, ALL THE KEY MONETARY POLICY DECISIONS -- THE ONES THAT AFFECT INTEREST RATES -- ARE MADE BY A GOVERNMENT AGENCY WHOSE MEMBERS ARE SELECTED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. THE FED MAY BE PRIVATELY OWNED, BUT IT IS CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT.

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