Was 911 an Inside Job

Created by inquiring minds on Jan 4, 2013

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“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#3758 Apr 2, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
Is this thread done now?
No it's not, but you and your govie shill buds are.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#3759 Apr 2, 2013
Just another wasted day at your topix box office eh Wasted Water.
What type of person calls themselves Waste Water? Do you know what waste water is?
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You must be related to these posters who call themselves as YellowPissreality or Porkpie Hat.
They too like waste water.....obviously

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#3760 Apr 2, 2013
Says It All wrote:
Was 911 an Inside Job
No 8,882 57%
YES 6,479 41%
Possibly 46 0%
Don't know 35 0%
Current Total 15,442
Gee thanks for posting the update. It makes it harder for certain people at the controls to change the stats. Most of the NO's come from ignorant uninformed people who depend on their local news media for what's happening in the world and never do any private research to see if what they are told is true or not....jtlyk
Wake up sheeple peeple.
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“All about that bass”

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#3761 Apr 2, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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Rather than imply it means something nefarious, why don't your charlatan masters prove mathematically that it means something nefarious using physics?
Why do you care so much if the US government is believable or not?
Are you a Calgarian or an American?

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#3762 Apr 2, 2013
Let's have some more Twoof.....

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#3763 Apr 2, 2013
Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee thanks for posting the update. It makes it harder for certain people at the controls to change the stats. Most of the NO's come from ignorant uninformed people who depend on their local news media for what's happening in the world and never do any private research to see if what they are told is true or not....jtlyk
Wake up sheeple peeple.
http://red-pill.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/0...
Says the king of the uninformed conspiracy shills.

LMAO

Let's have some more twoof.

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#3764 Apr 2, 2013
Timesten wrote:
Just another wasted day at your topix box office eh Wasted Water.
What type of person calls themselves Waste Water? Do you know what waste water is?
http://t2.gstatic.com/images...
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You must be related to these posters who call themselves as YellowPissreality or Porkpie Hat.
They too like waste water.....obviously
How was all the steel plating required to direct explosive charges inward concealed in WTC7?

If a missle hit the Pentagon, where did the real passengers go?

If all the phone calls were faked, including those made from on-board air phones to Airline operators, how did the conspiracy masters pull it off?

If your bogus false flag operation took place, where did the actual planes and passengers go?

Let's have some more twoof.... ROTFLMAO

Twoofers are paranoid shills.

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#3765 Apr 2, 2013
NinaRocks wrote:
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Why do you care so much if the US government is believable or not?
Are you a Calgarian or an American?
I believe the tangible evidence and testimony of the firefighters and those who were there.

NEXT

“Cole me down on the panny sty”

Since: Feb 13

Capatown

#3766 Apr 2, 2013
So,.. how much do you trolls get paid to "pretend" to have an opinion?

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#3767 Apr 2, 2013
Pootie and The Birds wrote:
So,.. how much do you trolls get paid to "pretend" to have an opinion?
The same as you. LMAO

“All about that bass”

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#3768 Apr 2, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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I believe the tangible evidence and testimony of the firefighters and those who were there.
NEXT
I don't believe I was addressing you, and you're dismissive and rude demeanor is truly offensive. It isn't possible for anyone on this page to assess or consider other peoples point of view without taking them down on a personal level.
Personally I think that is pathetic, and a far more important issue than anything being discussed here.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#3769 Apr 2, 2013
Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee thanks for posting the update. It makes it harder for certain people at the controls to change the stats. Most of the NO's come from ignorant uninformed people who depend on their local news media for what's happening in the world and never do any private research to see if what they are told is true or not....jtlyk
Wake up sheeple peeple.
http://red-pill.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/0...
But Hey, Remember Moobs, You have no opinion!
Timesten wrote:
I don't claim anything shill I am merely the messenger showing what other people claimed. Did I ever say I was a firm believer of it, you idiot.
And the US govt put it out, so get your email pen out and spew your idiocy to them.
Get a life shilly sheen
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#3770 Apr 2, 2013
Epic Glottis wrote:
"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson."
- U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a letter written Nov. 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House
So what you ask !!?!?!?
I just love how Twoofers constantly consider random quotes from 100 years ago some sort of evidence.
Epic Glottis

San Anselmo, CA

#3771 Apr 2, 2013
Q:“What about the 4 flights - and the passengers on those flights?

Where did they go? Do we have any solid documentation certifying their very existence?”

A: Before asking oneself these questions - one must of course verify the available, relevant official data.

Prominent researchers have revealed (throughout years of cross-examined investigations) that both flights and passengers lack the required data necessary to establish the alleged flights'and passengers' very existence.

ALLEGED FLIGHTS

The 4 purported hijacked flights have grave problems as far as their authenticity is concerned:

A long list of documentation (or plain lack of it) reveals inconsistent NTSB, BTS and FAA data.

The 2 American Airlines flights lacked records of required airport log data such as taxi-off and wheels-off times.

The 2 United Airlines flights were not deregistered until October 2005, as of official FAA records.

Both should have been listed, by law, as 'destroyed'. Shortly thereafter, the FAA rectified this 'oversight' in a peculiar manner : in place of 'destroyed', the wording used was 'cancelled'.

This evidence has not been challenged, to this day, by any of those air-regulating agencies nor by the airlines themselves.

ALLEGED PASSENGERS

Since no evidence has been forthcoming of the very existence of the 4 ‘hijacked’ airplanes, the question of the passengers allegedly on board of them should be moot.

However, multiple and repeated people-searches have attempted to backtrack and contact the alleged families of those passengers - to no avail.

Thus, the prevailing indications of those longstanding investigations suggest that none of these people have ever existed.

Moreover, the stories created around the alleged passengers simply do not stand up to scrutiny.

As for the cell phone calls that they allegedly placed to their loved ones, they have by now been established as a technical impossibility.

I hear you bwunkers believe in magic.

If so please simply disregard the above information.
Epic Glottis

San Anselmo, CA

#3772 Apr 2, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe the tangible evidence and testimony of the firefighters and those who were there.
NEXT
And there is NO testimony of any FDNY personnel who say they saw and heard explosions that were not incidental to any existing fires.

Is that what you believe? A simple yes or no will suffice.

NEXT
Epic Glottis

San Anselmo, CA

#3773 Apr 2, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
I just love how Twoofers constantly consider random quotes from 100 years ago some sort of evidence.
We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans."
- Bill Clinton, USA Today on 3/11/93, page 2a

not evidence

“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#3774 Apr 2, 2013
Epic Glottis wrote:
Q:“What about the 4 flights - and the passengers on those flights?
Where did they go? Do we have any solid documentation certifying their very existence?”
A: Before asking oneself these questions - one must of course verify the available, relevant official data.
Prominent researchers have revealed (throughout years of cross-examined investigations) that both flights and passengers lack the required data necessary to establish the alleged flights'and passengers' very existence.
ALLEGED FLIGHTS
The 4 purported hijacked flights have grave problems as far as their authenticity is concerned:
A long list of documentation (or plain lack of it) reveals inconsistent NTSB, BTS and FAA data.
The 2 American Airlines flights lacked records of required airport log data such as taxi-off and wheels-off times.
The 2 United Airlines flights were not deregistered until October 2005, as of official FAA records.
Both should have been listed, by law, as 'destroyed'. Shortly thereafter, the FAA rectified this 'oversight' in a peculiar manner : in place of 'destroyed', the wording used was 'cancelled'.
This evidence has not been challenged, to this day, by any of those air-regulating agencies nor by the airlines themselves.
ALLEGED PASSENGERS
Since no evidence has been forthcoming of the very existence of the 4 ‘hijacked’ airplanes, the question of the passengers allegedly on board of them should be moot.
However, multiple and repeated people-searches have attempted to backtrack and contact the alleged families of those passengers - to no avail.
Thus, the prevailing indications of those longstanding investigations suggest that none of these people have ever existed.
Moreover, the stories created around the alleged passengers simply do not stand up to scrutiny.
As for the cell phone calls that they allegedly placed to their loved ones, they have by now been established as a technical impossibility.
I hear you bwunkers believe in magic.
If so please simply disregard the above information.
So the "ALLEGED" family members are just actors mourning the " ALLEGED PASSENGERS" deaths?
There would be more actors then "ALLEGED PASSENGERS" and that would add to the already thousands of cast members to pull off the twoofer version of events of 911.

BTW,if the passengers were just made up,you or the"Prominent researchers" should easily prove this.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#3775 Apr 2, 2013
As regards the planes, we must first note that the terms "AA 77", "UA 93", etc., do not denote planes, they denote flights.
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The statement "AA 77 hit the Pentagon" really means "the plane which departed (assuming it did) from Dulles Airport at 08:10 on 9/11 bound for Los Angeles hit the Pentagon."
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The official story posits four planes, associated with four flight numbers, namely, AA 11, AA 77, UA 175 and UA 93.
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But we have no physical evidence of the existence of any of those four planes.
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According to the official story, the planes which departed as AA 11 and UA 175 completely disappeared as a result of the collapse of the Twin Towers, the plane which departed as AA 77 completely disappeared when it hit the Pentagon, and the plane which departed as UA 93 completely disappeared when it hit the ground at Shanksville.
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All four Boeing jets, big 757s and 767s, completely disappeared, with not one single piece of metal which can be proven to have come from any of those planes.
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No piece of wreckage alleged to be from any of these four arcft has had any serial numbers identified back to the extensive maintenance records kept for all commercial arcft.
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Isn't this a bit odd? Well not if you are trying to keep the identification of these arcft a secret.

So no physical evidence. But how about evidence from records of those flights? Records concerning domestic flights within the US are maintained online by the Bureau of Transportation Statistics.

When 9/11 researcher Gerard Holmgren checked those records he discovered that flights AA 11 and AA 77 were not scheduled to fly on 9/11.

He published his discovery on 2003-11-13 and it was confirmed by others, including the author of this article (who saved the BTS web pages).

Late in 2004 the BTS doctored their database so that now when one tries to confirm the original observation one reaches a web page (local copy here) stating:

On September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight #11 and #77 and United Airlines #93 and #175 were hijacked by terrorists. Therefore, these flights are not included in the on-time summary statistics.

But there were originally records confirming that UA 93 and UA 175 departed (see the BTS web pages), so apparently these flights did exist.

BTS removed those records to conceal the fact that there were never any records for AA 11 and AA 77.

If flights AA 11 and AA 77 never existed, then there are only two planes, not four, to be accounted for.

Investigators who have checked the tail numbers for the planes which departed as UA 93 and UA 175 on 9/11 (namely N591UA and N612UA respectively) believe that these planes are still in service.

If so, and if AA 11 and AA 77 never existed, then the number of Boeing 757s and 767s destroyed on 9/11 was not four, as the US government maintains, but rather zero.

Unless Of Course You Believe In Magik Huh Eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#3776 Apr 2, 2013
Note added by Peter Meyer, 2005-06-29:
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For those few who need it spelled out, the significance of Gerard Holmgren's discoveries in the BTS database is as follows: The Bush administration declared on 9/11 that the Twin Towers and the Pentagon were hit by Boeing 757 and 767 jetliners which had been hijacked by Arab terrorists.
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On the basis of this assertion it implemented a (previously-prepared) plan for an attack on Afghanistan (to remove the Taliban and install a US-friendly government in Kabul), and it rushed through (previously-prepared) legislation (Patriotic Act) restricting civil rights to the extent that the US Constitution was violated and every person subject to US jurisdiction became a potential terrorist until proven otherwise.
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If Flights AA 11 and AA 77 never flew on the morning of 9/11 then they could not have been hijacked, and so could not have been hijacked by Arab terrorists.
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If Flight UA 175 was not destroyed on 9/11 then it did not crash into the South Tower and so whatever caused the South Tower explosion was not a jet flying under the control of Arab terrorists — though it may have been a (previously-prepared) napalm-loaded jet flying under remote control.
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Thus if the records in the BTS database are to believed (and we have no reason to question the original records) then the claim made by the Bush Administration that 19 Arab terrorists (named within two days by the FBI) hijacked four Boeing jetliners on 9/11 is not only false, it must have been concocted as a deliberate attempt to deceive the people of the United States and the rest of the world, a deception intended to justify the ensuing US wars of aggression.
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Clearly whoever was responsible for the deception (no doubt the same people responsible for the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks) must be removed from office, indicted, tried, convicted and punished appropriately.
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This is necessary if the U.S.A. is ever again to recover any degree of respect by the rest of the world.
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The only way to identify the perpetrators is a commission of inquiry made up (in contrast to the Kean Commission) of people with experience in forensic investigation who are independent of, and not subject to influence by, those perps.
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Since 9/11 must have been carried out, at least in part, by elements within the US government, this excludes from service on such a commission anyone in Congress or the Justice Department who cannot prove beforehand that they will look at all the evidence, listen to all arguments, and follow that evidence and argument to wherever it leads, even if it leads to the highest levels of the US government.
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Until that happens the profound suspicion will remain that the US government is led by psychopathic thugs and murderers.
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Unless You Believe In Magik Huh Eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#3777 Apr 2, 2013
Here's one for sorry charlie.

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence.

It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
- Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference in Evians, France, 1991

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