Was 911 an Inside Job

Was 911 an Inside Job

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“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#3560 Mar 29, 2013
The total collapse of WTC 7 at 5:20 PM on 9/11/01 shows all of the features of an implosion engineered through controlled demolition.

Controlled demolition is the use of pre-positioned explosive charges to destroy structures.
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Depending on the nature of the structure and constraints imposed by its surroundings, a controlled demolition may require a great deal of precision in its planning and execution.
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That is especially true of tall steel buildings in urban settings, given the natural tendency of such structures to topple.
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Controlled demolitions of buildings in cities are designed to implode the structures, making them sink into their footprints and fold in on themselves into a small consolidated rubble piles
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Observing the collapse of 47-story WTC 7 shows it to have all of the features of an implosion engineered by controlled demolition.
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The collapse of the main structure commences suddenly (several seconds after the penthouse falls).
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The building sinks in a precisely vertical manner into its footprint.
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Puffs of dust emerge from the building's facade early in the event.
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The collapse is total, producing a rubble pile only about three stories high.
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The main structure collapses totally in under 7 seconds, only about a second slower than it would take a brick dropped from the building's roof to reach the ground in a vacuum.
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NIST now admits that it took only 5.4 seconds for total collapse, 2.5 seconds of which was complete free fall acceleration.
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http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/wtc7...
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This could only have happened if eight stories worth of all the buildings vertical steel support columns were removed at the same time. Otherwise it couldn't fall evenly all at once in so precise a manner.
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Unless You Believe In Magik ! Huh Eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#3561 Mar 29, 2013
Tell us again how explosives are "never" used in the demolition of steel framed buildings.
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If you dare.
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Or Believe In Magik Huh Eh !

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canmore, Canada

#3562 Mar 29, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Ad Hom
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Yawn
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Believe In Magik Much ? Huh Eh !
You've admitted your posts are nothing but an appeal to majiks...and ignorance.

Oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots STREET CORNER JEEBUS!
observer

Anonymous Proxy

#3563 Mar 29, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>No one denies a portion of the collapse was at free fall...so?
your boss Chuck was.

and you deny the clear implications that symmetric free-fall of a massive steel-frame building indicates a high degree of demolition planning.

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#3564 Mar 29, 2013
And yet you can't find a single CD that came down in free fall acceleration .... go figure !?!?!?!?!?
observer wrote:
<quoted text>
your boss Chuck was.
and you deny the clear implications that symmetric free-fall of a massive steel-frame building indicates a high degree of demolition planning.

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#3565 Mar 29, 2013
"We screwed up. We had never seen the CBS video when we claimed that it took WTC 7 6.5 seconds to collapse. We only relied on the street video that does not show the Penthouses. By the time we saw the CBS video, we had so much invested in the 6.5-second collapse time, we could not disappoint our supporters who were successfully using the 6.5 free fall time to push 9/11 Truth. We just ignored the evidence.- Dr Steven Jones,5/19/07 (BNN - May 19, 2007 - New York, NY)

EVEN ONE OF YOUR TWOOFY LEADERS IS SAYING YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THE COLLAPSE TIME !!!!
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
The total collapse of WTC 7 at 5:20 PM on 9/11/01 shows all of the features of an implosion engineered through controlled demolition.
Controlled demolition is the use of pre-positioned explosive charges to destroy structures.
.
Depending on the nature of the structure and constraints imposed by its surroundings, a controlled demolition may require a great deal of precision in its planning and execution.
.
That is especially true of tall steel buildings in urban settings, given the natural tendency of such structures to topple.
.
Controlled demolitions of buildings in cities are designed to implode the structures, making them sink into their footprints and fold in on themselves into a small consolidated rubble piles
.
Observing the collapse of 47-story WTC 7 shows it to have all of the features of an implosion engineered by controlled demolition.
.
The collapse of the main structure commences suddenly (several seconds after the penthouse falls).
.
The building sinks in a precisely vertical manner into its footprint.
.
Puffs of dust emerge from the building's facade early in the event.
.
The collapse is total, producing a rubble pile only about three stories high.
.
The main structure collapses totally in under 7 seconds, only about a second slower than it would take a brick dropped from the building's roof to reach the ground in a vacuum.
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NIST now admits that it took only 5.4 seconds for total collapse, 2.5 seconds of which was complete free fall acceleration.
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http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/wtc7...
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This could only have happened if eight stories worth of all the buildings vertical steel support columns were removed at the same time. Otherwise it couldn't fall evenly all at once in so precise a manner.
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Unless You Believe In Magik ! Huh Eh !

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canmore, Canada

#3566 Mar 29, 2013
observer wrote:
<quoted text>your boss Chuck was.

and you deny the clear implications that symmetric free-fall of a massive steel-frame building indicates a high degree of demolition planning.
I have yet to see any support for the claim.

Pretend twoof isn't just a cult and try proving qualifying the claim that the only way for structural support to be removed from a building is by explosives proxy sock.

Go!

Because here in the real world, fire has always been and will always be a threat to steel framed structures.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canmore, Canada

#3567 Mar 29, 2013
RADEKT wrote:
<quoted text>"We screwed up. We had never seen the CBS video when we claimed that it took WTC 7 6.5 seconds to collapse. We only relied on the street video that does not show the Penthouses. By the time we saw the CBS video, we had so much invested in the 6.5-second collapse time, we could not disappoint our supporters who were successfully using the 6.5 free fall time to push 9/11 Truth. We just ignored the evidence.- Dr Steven Jones,5/19/07 (BNN - May 19, 2007 - New York, NY)

EVEN ONE OF YOUR TWOOFY LEADERS IS SAYING YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THE COLLAPSE TIME !!!!
He repeats the 6.5 second meme not because he believes it but because he thinks it wins him cheap points in his pointless quest to dumb down everyone around him.

He's admitted to be nothing more than a proxy using troll for TEAM TWOOF!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canmore, Canada

#3568 Mar 29, 2013
RADEKT wrote:
<quoted text>And yet you can't find a single CD that came down in free fall acceleration .... go figure !?!?!?!?!?
If these ideologically driven mental midgets had any form of logic on their side, that's where they'd start.

They should be demanding answers from their charlatan masters to such questions...but that would involve accepting truth over twoof so they don't.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#3569 Mar 29, 2013
If we look at the companies that occupied the impact zones of the WTC towers, and other floors that might have played a useful role in the demolition of the towers, we see connections to organizations that had access to explosive materials, and to the expertise required to use explosives.
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Mining companies like Washington, Morrison-Knudsen, Komatsu and Aoki Construction (and John Lehman's Special Devices Inc.) have access to many types of explosive materials.
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Oil and gas companies, like those associated with Exco, use explosives for exploration. Some of the explosive technologies available to these companies, for example Komatsu and Washington, involve thermite, a chemical mixture that has been identified in the WTC dust and in the environmental data at Ground Zero.
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It seems that, if certain management representatives of the tenant companies listed above wanted to help bring the WTC towers down, they would have been well suited to do so.
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The companies mentioned were located at well-spaced intervals in the buildings, and some, for example Marsh and the Primark subsidiaries, had a reputation of being secretive.
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In fact, a number of the executives from these firms were either on the board of intelligence firms (e.g. In-Q-Tel, TASC), or were closely related to others who were. Others were connected to the CIA itself, and to some of the largest defense contractors in the world, like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Halliburton, and SAIC.
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There are also strong connections to those who benefited from the 9/11 attacks, most notably the Bush family and their corporate network, including Dresser Industries (now Halliburton) and UBS, and to Deutsche Bank and it's subsidiaries, reported to have brokered the insider trading deals.
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There are links between these tenant companies and the terrorist-related fraudulent bank BCCI.
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Not Unfounded Speculation But Facts That Mean Nothing To Those That Believe In Magik !
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Pure Wag The Dog Magik Huh eh!
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You be the judge
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http://911review.com/articles/ryan/demolition...

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#3570 Mar 29, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>You really don't give who you allow to be your shepherd a whole lot of thought, do you lamb chop? Sweetie, though the deaths all occurred on 9/11, they were recorded on the Master Death File as they were proved. Some folk who were killed on 9/11 didn't officially die until some years later. I'll bet that thought never occurred to you when you harkened to this too rightfully embarrassed to be signed nonsense and obediently followed this moron with a crook into complete silliness.
English to easily awed and confusable sheep translation: Baaa. Baaa, moron. Baaa.
Exactly. Also many were MIA.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#3571 Mar 29, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
If we look at the companies that occupied the impact zones of the WTC towers, and other floors that might have played a useful role in the demolition of the towers, we see connections to organizations that had access to explosive materials, and to the expertise required to use explosives.
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Mining companies like Washington, Morrison-Knudsen, Komatsu and Aoki Construction (and John Lehman's Special Devices Inc.) have access to many types of explosive materials.
.
Oil and gas companies, like those associated with Exco, use explosives for exploration. Some of the explosive technologies available to these companies, for example Komatsu and Washington, involve thermite, a chemical mixture that has been identified in the WTC dust and in the environmental data at Ground Zero.
.
It seems that, if certain management representatives of the tenant companies listed above wanted to help bring the WTC towers down, they would have been well suited to do so.
.
The companies mentioned were located at well-spaced intervals in the buildings, and some, for example Marsh and the Primark subsidiaries, had a reputation of being secretive.
.
In fact, a number of the executives from these firms were either on the board of intelligence firms (e.g. In-Q-Tel, TASC), or were closely related to others who were. Others were connected to the CIA itself, and to some of the largest defense contractors in the world, like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Halliburton, and SAIC.
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There are also strong connections to those who benefited from the 9/11 attacks, most notably the Bush family and their corporate network, including Dresser Industries (now Halliburton) and UBS, and to Deutsche Bank and it's subsidiaries, reported to have brokered the insider trading deals.
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There are links between these tenant companies and the terrorist-related fraudulent bank BCCI.
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Not Unfounded Speculation But Facts That Mean Nothing To Those That Believe In Magik !
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Pure Wag The Dog Magik Huh eh!
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You be the judge
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http://911review.com/articles/ryan/demolition...
False. You are making an assumption about explosive materials.

No connection. No evidence of explosive materials or demolition practices and procedures has ever been found and documented.

No connection.

Insider trading and options trading is not a motive but an opportunity.

Switching sides now? Now you mention terrorist organizations.

Nothing yet. Keep trying.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#3573 Mar 29, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
If we look at the companies that occupied the impact zones of the WTC towers, and other floors that might have played a useful role in the demolition of the towers, we see connections to organizations that had access to explosive materials, and to the expertise required to use explosives.
.
Mining companies like Washington, Morrison-Knudsen, Komatsu and Aoki Construction (and John Lehman's Special Devices Inc.) have access to many types of explosive materials.
.
Oil and gas companies, like those associated with Exco, use explosives for exploration. Some of the explosive technologies available to these companies, for example Komatsu and Washington, involve thermite, a chemical mixture that has been identified in the WTC dust and in the environmental data at Ground Zero.
.
It seems that, if certain management representatives of the tenant companies listed above wanted to help bring the WTC towers down, they would have been well suited to do so.
.
The companies mentioned were located at well-spaced intervals in the buildings, and some, for example Marsh and the Primark subsidiaries, had a reputation of being secretive.
.
In fact, a number of the executives from these firms were either on the board of intelligence firms (e.g. In-Q-Tel, TASC), or were closely related to others who were. Others were connected to the CIA itself, and to some of the largest defense contractors in the world, like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Halliburton, and SAIC.
.
There are also strong connections to those who benefited from the 9/11 attacks, most notably the Bush family and their corporate network, including Dresser Industries (now Halliburton) and UBS, and to Deutsche Bank and it's subsidiaries, reported to have brokered the insider trading deals.
.
There are links between these tenant companies and the terrorist-related fraudulent bank BCCI.
.
Not Unfounded Speculation But Facts That Mean Nothing To Those That Believe In Magik !
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Pure Wag The Dog Magik Huh eh!
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You be the judge
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http://911review.com/articles/ryan/demolition...
PREACH IT STREET CORNER JEEBUS!

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THE BLEEBERS WILL BLEEB ANYTHING YOU TYPE FROM YOUR INVISIBLE PDA ON THE CORNER OF ANONYMOUS AND PROXY!!!!

WE HOLD YOUR IMPOTENT TWOOFY TWOOFS TO BE SELF EBIDIENT!

TESTIFY OH HOLIEST OF HOLY STREET CORNER JEEBUSES!

TES-TI-FY!!!!!!!

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#3574 Mar 29, 2013
Buildings do not explode into dust of themselves. Nor does a 47-story skyscraper (WTC 7) implode into its own footprint of itself. 110-story skyscrapers of 485,000 tons each do not plummet through their central structures and paths of greatest resistance at nearly free-fall acceleration due to their potential gravitational energy.
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Nor do they instantly pulverize tens of thousands tons of concrete of themselves--100,000 tons of concrete slabs in each Twin Tower were blown to 100-micron-or-less bits in less than 15 seconds.
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Nor do truss-failures fling 60-foot-long steel beams 400 lateral feet. 200,000 tons of structural steel in each Tower, including 47 central columns that were as much as 52 inches wide at their bases, along with 236 perimeter columns, were all brought to ground in less than 15 seconds on September 11, 2001.
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You Have To Believe In Magik To Believe The Official Story Of 19 College Age Muslims Doing This On Their Own.
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Pure Wag The Dog Magik Huh Eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#3575 Mar 29, 2013
Turner Construction was a tenant on the North Tower's 38th floor.
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Coincidentally, Turner Construction was also the contractor responsible for supposed fire-proofing upgrades on floors of the Twin Towers that were most hit by Boeing 767 impacts and/or that were most affected by fires and faults on 9/11/01, a statistically implausible pair of coupling coincidences.
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Turner Construction was also the contractor responsible for demolition of Seattle's Kingdome on March 26, 2000, in partnership with another Corporation that cleaned up at both " 'Ground Zero' " and at the 1995 demolition-site of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City,
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Controlled Demolition, Inc.
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Coincidentally, Turner Construction is also intimately connected to nano-explosives through its building of the 1997-completed headquarters for the Naval Sea Systems Command, said command's Indian Head Naval Surface Warfare center being the 'only reliable source for aluminum nano-powers in the U. S', according to the South Dakota School of Mines and Technology in 2001[73].
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Turner Construction is also since 1999 a subsidiary of Hochtief of Germany, a firm whose website recounts its 'increasing use of forced labor' from 1939-40 onward while Hochtief served the Nazi Government [75].
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Coincidentally, in 1999 Tom Leppert, later Mayor of Dallas, Texas and now a close neighbor of George W. Bush's, became CEO of Turner under Hochtief.
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These Guys Believe In Magik Huh Eh !
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So What You Say?
Eve

Germany

#3576 Mar 29, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Sweetie.
Aaahhhh..why are you saying "sweetie" so much?
It's really annoying. Not to your target, clearly - that you have utterly failed to do.But to the rest give it a rest!
Kev

Coralville, IA

#3577 Mar 29, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly.
Let's look at the "pulled it" statement.
1. Demolishing a steel framed building the size of WTC7 would take around 5 tons of steel plating per floor securely attached at each demolition point. This would be a highly invasive procedure which could not be done undetected.
2. It would take at least 2,000 lbs of explosive materials.
3. It would be a criminal act to endanger the occupants of a building which is scheduled for demolition.
4. Nobody would admit publicly to such a criminal act.
The bottom line is the building collapsed due to damage and structural failure as the firemen who were there attested too.
1. Not true. Marvin Bush and his cousin were in charge of security over the World Trade Center buildings. They had a access to every building, elevator shafts, empty floors. There were reports of work , drilling, pounding on what were empty floors, this was reports by employees of the building. Also there is evidence of Thermite in upper floors. This also can be mixed with paint and painted on iron, steel,and walls. Nano thermite will iginite an lower tempatures and melt steel.

2. I don't deny this statement. If the Bush's were in on it and head od security and wanted to bring it down. They had the time.

3. I agree.

4. I agree. Some people disappeared or died untimely deaths in speaking out about 9/11 being an inside job. Firefighters , police, media and city officials that were in the buildings lobbies and stairways reported explosions in the basement areas. There is also video footage of a film crew filming on the other side of the river in view of the towers and you can see the camer shake and the white smoke coming up from the base of the towers. White smoke is evidence of possible thermite.

Since: May 10

YOUR MOM'S HOUSE

#3578 Mar 29, 2013
Marvin Bush ??..... talk about Clueless !!
Kev wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Not true. Marvin Bush and his cousin were in charge of security over the World Trade Center buildings. They had a access to every building, elevator shafts, empty floors. There were reports of work , drilling, pounding on what were empty floors, this was reports by employees of the building. Also there is evidence of Thermite in upper floors. This also can be mixed with paint and painted on iron, steel,and walls. Nano thermite will iginite an lower tempatures and melt steel.
2. I don't deny this statement. If the Bush's were in on it and head od security and wanted to bring it down. They had the time.
3. I agree.
4. I agree. Some people disappeared or died untimely deaths in speaking out about 9/11 being an inside job. Firefighters , police, media and city officials that were in the buildings lobbies and stairways reported explosions in the basement areas. There is also video footage of a film crew filming on the other side of the river in view of the towers and you can see the camer shake and the white smoke coming up from the base of the towers. White smoke is evidence of possible thermite.
Kev

Coralville, IA

#3579 Mar 29, 2013
YellowPissreality wrote:
Marvin Bush ??..... talk about Clueless !!
<quoted text>
a couple of weeks before the attack they removed bomb sniffing dogs from the Security detail.

George W. Bush's brother was on the board of directors of a company providing electronic security for the World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport and United Airlines, according to public records. The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for years to the Bush family.

Marvin Bush's last year on the board at Stratesec coincided with his first year on the board of HCC Insurance, formerly Houston Casualty Co., one of the insurance carriers for the WTC. He left the HCC board in November 2002

he day after Bush took office in 2001 Marvin was handed a $50 million plus contract to handle security of the Twin Towers and Dulles Airport. He had absolutely no background to indicate he could handle such a contract, or the job it entailed, but this is how all the Bushes got rich, with government contracts given to them by other Bush family members. Marvin was in charge of security on 9/11 at both the WTC and Dulles. You can look it up on line, Google Marvin bush and you will find out a lot about the "other Bush brother" that absolutely no one in the press will ever discuss or talk to the Bush family about, or ask the hard questions of George W. like, "what qualifications did your brother have that gave you the right to award such a huge contract to provide security at the WTC and Dulles airport to him?"

Securacom listed among its clients Washington Dulles International Airport, Hewlett-Packard, EDS, United Airlines, Gillette, MCI, the World Trade Center, and other facilities including hospitals, prisons, corporations, utilities, universities.[3]
Marvin Bush, son of US president George H.W. Bush, and brother to US president George W. Bush, served on the board of directors

Marvin Bush joined Securacom when it was capitalized by the Kuwait-American Corporation, a private investment firm in D.C. that was the security company's major investor, sometimes holding a controlling interest. Marvin Bush has not responded to telephone calls and e-mails for comment.

KuwAm has been linked to the Bush family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and a member of the Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah, served on the board of Stratesec.

The managing director at KuwAm, Wirt D. Walker III, was also a principal at Stratesec, and Walker, Marvin Bush and al Sabah are listed in SEC filings as significant shareholders in both companies during that period.

Did they also clear out certain floors due to Security Drills a couple of weeks before the attacks?

No bomb sniffing dogs.
Sammy

Stockholm, Sweden

#3581 Mar 29, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
I have yet to see any support for the claim.
Pretend twoof isn't just a cult and try proving qualifying the claim that the only way for structural support to be removed from a building is by explosives proxy sock.
Go!
Because here in the real world, fire has always been and will always be a threat to steel framed structures.
Actually, it is NIST's job to prove that fire can result in symmetric free-fall drop of the roof line. They failed, despite their computer contrivances and fraud. The computer model shows neither symmetry nor free fall.

Symmetric free-fall indicates total/simultaneous failure around the entire perimeter. That is non-negotiable. It is a consequence of the laws of physics. It is also a completely unnatural pattern of destruction. It looks like an extremely well-executed demolition. On the other hand, there are no precedents for total failure of a steel high-rise for ANY REASON other than demolition, even a highly entropic start/stop progressive global failure.

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