Was 911 an Inside Job

Was 911 an Inside Job

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#3413 Mar 26, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
A good reason for the government NOT to test for the presence of explosives or incendiaries since freefall acceleration DID occur.
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And the only way for gravity alone to propel the towers downward at that speed is for all the resistance to be removed by the explosives that were conveniently NOT tested for.
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Good job debunking your own rebuttal mu shu pig meat pot sticker.
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You Really Do Believe In Magic Don't You!?!?!?!?!? Huh Eh !
Really?

http://www.911myths.com/WTCREPORT.pdf

Get back to me if you can actually refute this.
SWEETIE

Germany

#3414 Mar 26, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Sweetie, the existence of previous false flag operations imagined and/or conducted by the US government is not proof this was one. You might as well be saying that the Gulf of Tonkin Incident and the sinking of the Maine are proof that 9/11 had to be a false flag operation.
<quoted text>There was a whole lot of inaccurate and badly informed "reporting" on 9/11, that's what happens in the rush to be first and live television.
<quoted text>And yet multiple cell calls went through, as well as air phone calls. A number of them were recorded, people talked to people they knew. But of course, this was all impossible in 2001. Even though from personal experience I know you're wrong and if you were bouncing off AT&T's network, making and even receiving cell calls in flight was not usually a problem unless you were flying some distance from urban areas away from the coasts.
<quoted text>Yes dear, people kept hearing and witnessing explosions in areas of the buildings that weren't directly impacted by the jets. The force of the impact affected multiple floors of each building. No one reports seeing bombs, they witnessed explosions, they assumed bombs were the cause. Aside from a few burnt speculations, there has been no report of any explosive, incendiary or other residues that would indicate the presence of "bombs".
<quoted text>So, you're not completely misinformed. It's a start.
<quoted text>The crime scene was a multistory high pile of burning toxic debris shutting down several square miles of the city, keeping hundreds of thousands out of work and thousands out of their homes. It needed to be cleared quickly and the investigation conducted off site. Yes some of the steel was shipped off for recycling, but the steel from the relevant portions of the building was all studied when it was recovered. If you want WTC steel, there is still plenty of it around, all over the country.
<quoted text>Yes dear, much has been made of Silverstein's recorded "pulled" comment. To think that someone allegedly in on the plot would give such an order in a conversation he knew to be being recorded kind of defies imagination, don't it? I know a number of people who were in WTC 7 when this happened, I used to work as a consultant for a previous incarnation of the company that it was its primary tenant. You really have no idea.
Are you trying to show your older side? Why are you saying "sweetie" so much? You don´t have the half of the balls that your mother had calling others seeetie. It's really annoying.
Not to your target, clearly - that you have utterly failed to do.
Is it because you are gay and you lust for men?

“Earth Science”

Since: Jan 10

MI

#3415 Mar 26, 2013
SAL wrote:
Was the 1865 US Civil War an 'inside job'?
ww 1 & 2?
Our problem is very old and has no solution.
You could argue yes, actually (at least for WW II), because we heard MONTHS in advance they were planning the attack, then decided to ship out most of our anti-air equipment, and THEN scheduled an air-raid drill, so if there was an attack we wouldn't realize until people started getting blown up. That sounds like some pretty crappy planning, or an inside job. Take your pick (but I don't think US commanders were that stupid).

Since: Aug 11

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#3416 Mar 26, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
I would say that you are spouting what you are told to say.
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All you can muster is what I say is nonsense, and what you saw on TV was "real".
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THE 45 “AMATEUR” VIDEOS: A Formidable Fakery Festival
1) CLONED IMAGERY: As we compare the “amateur videos”, one by one, even the layman will notice their obvious falseness. Many simply turn out to be different versions (cropped/warped/seam-carved) of a single scenery. The shots compared below are purportedly authored by five different cameramen. The sheer goofiness of the 9/11 image fakery crew is, in fact, breathtaking:
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See for yourself. But then why would you bother? There it is
in color and B/W so it must be real. You also saw it on TV so it really is real, isn't it?
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http://www.septemberclues.info/
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Do You Believe In Magic ? Wag The Dog Was Real, 9/11 Was Not.
I saw one where the guy was video taping the first burning tower. These guys were discussing the possibilities when the second one hit. How could that be computer morphing dude? There are many just like that and news cameras as well. Thousands of people on the street to confirm what was recorded. You are delusional.

Since: Aug 11

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#3417 Mar 26, 2013
SWEETIE wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you trying to show your older side? Why are you saying "sweetie" so much? You don´t have the half of the balls that your mother had calling others seeetie. It's really annoying.
Not to your target, clearly - that you have utterly failed to do.
Is it because you are gay and you lust for men?
Hi Adam.

Bye Adam.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#3418 Mar 26, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>A good reason for the government NOT to test for the presence of explosives or incendiaries since freefall acceleration DID occur.
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And the only way for gravity alone to propel the towers downward at that speed is for all the resistance to be removed by the explosives that were conveniently NOT tested for.
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Good job debunking your own rebuttal mu shu pig meat pot sticker.
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You Really Do Believe In Magic Don't You!?!?!?!?!? Huh Eh !
There's nothing even remotely contradictory in my post oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots glop but thanks for failing reading comprehension...again!

And the claim that explosives is the only way to achieve free fall is yet unsupported.

Btw, why haven't any twoofers shown that free fall is inherent in all the many controlled demolition videos available on the net?

Ya know, to show correlation rather than just mindlessly claiming it.

And what about the the collapse as a whole which was slower than free fall?

Was just part of it a cd and the rest not?

And how about that time you were knee high to a grassy knoll and you threw a match into a big 'ol bucket of gas and it didn't light on fire?

Oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots glop, perhaps you should answer with your pretend engineer proxy socky!

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#3419 Mar 26, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
There's nothing even remotely contradictory in my post oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots glop but thanks for failing reading comprehension...again!
And the claim that explosives is the only way to achieve free fall is yet unsupported.
Btw, why haven't any twoofers shown that free fall is inherent in all the many controlled demolition videos available on the net?
Ya know, to show correlation rather than just mindlessly claiming it.
And what about the the collapse as a whole which was slower than free fall?
Was just part of it a cd and the rest not?
And how about that time you were knee high to a grassy knoll and you threw a match into a big 'ol bucket of gas and it didn't light on fire?
Oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots glop, perhaps you should answer with your pretend engineer proxy socky!
I came to the realization that the 9/11 conspiracy happened inside the minds of Twoofers. Guess it was an inside job after all. ROTFLMAO

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#3420 Mar 26, 2013
When was the last time explosives were used in the demolition of a steel framed hi rise building, what was that last buildings name, and where was it located?
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Just wondering.
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Or Do You Believe In Magic? Huh Eh !


“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#3421 Mar 26, 2013
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Unless You Believe In The Magik Of Amerika Huh Eh !

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#3422 Mar 26, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
When was the last time explosives were used in the demolition of a steel framed hi rise building, what was that last buildings name, and where was it located?
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Just wondering.
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Or Do You Believe In Magic? Huh Eh !
It was twenty-six stories high. It took 3 tons of plating per floor and 800lbs of explosives. It took months of planning using computer simulations. It proves the nothing at the WTC was demolished using explosive demolition procedures.

You Believe in Magic Huh?

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#3423 Mar 26, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Project Northwoods has nothing to do with anything here.
1. Planes were hijacked. The evidence shows the hijackers boarding the planes and passing through airport security.
2. Phone calls were made from the planes describing the hijacking and one verbal exchange was head by ATC.
3. There is plenty of evidence such as thousands of eye witnesses and video footage of what actually happened.
4. Airplane debris was recovered at the scenes.
5. Other aircraft pilots also witnessed what happened.
6. ATF and FBI forensic teams collected and documented evidence.
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1. Planes were hijacked. The evidence shows the hijackers boarding the planes and passing through airport security.
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There is no photographic evidence of the alleged hijackers boarding the planes and going thru security.
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2. Phone calls were made from the planes describing the hijacking and one verbal exchange was head by ATC.
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These phone calls were phony.(sic)

3. There is plenty of evidence such as thousands of eye witnesses and video footage of what actually happened.
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Everyone knows lower Manhattan does not have thousands of people with nothing to do but look up and watch the sky at this time of the morning.
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4. Airplane debris was recovered at the scenes.
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What little debris alleged to be from the aircraft that was gathered was never identified by serial number back to the aircraft's maintenance records for a positive identification.
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5. Other aircraft pilots also witnessed what happened.
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What were the names of these alleged pilots who allegedly witnessed what happened?
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6. ATF and FBI forensic teams collected and documented evidence.
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None of which was ever revealed to the public for inspection.
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All of the above are spurious and unsubstantiated claims and are hereby rejected.
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Unless You Believe In Government Magik ! Huh eh

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#3424 Mar 26, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
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1. Planes were hijacked. The evidence shows the hijackers boarding the planes and passing through airport security.
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There is no photographic evidence of the alleged hijackers boarding the planes and going thru security.
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2. Phone calls were made from the planes describing the hijacking and one verbal exchange was head by ATC.
.
These phone calls were phony.(sic)
3. There is plenty of evidence such as thousands of eye witnesses and video footage of what actually happened.
.
Everyone knows lower Manhattan does not have thousands of people with nothing to do but look up and watch the sky at this time of the morning.
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4. Airplane debris was recovered at the scenes.
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What little debris alleged to be from the aircraft that was gathered was never identified by serial number back to the aircraft's maintenance records for a positive identification.
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5. Other aircraft pilots also witnessed what happened.
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What were the names of these alleged pilots who allegedly witnessed what happened?
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6. ATF and FBI forensic teams collected and documented evidence.
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None of which was ever revealed to the public for inspection.
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All of the above are spurious and unsubstantiated claims and are hereby rejected.
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Unless You Believe In Government Magik ! Huh eh
There is photographic evidence of the hijackers passing through airport security. Not only that, Airline personnel also identified them. That would be considered irrefutable evidence in any court of law.

There were thousands of people in Manhattan on the streets going to work. I think they would know what they saw. You made a claim of using Photoshop. There are evidence pictures, videos and witnesses who saw the jet engine in the street. Looks like your opinion is wrong. These too would be considered irrefutable evidence in a court of law.

There was quite a few aircraft skin fragments but much of the airplanes penetrated the buildings proving again, that your Photoshop claim is false. What about serial numbers? Are you saying the planes with were seen leaving nearby airports and tracked on radar were substituted? If so, where did they go? What about the phone calls which were also witnessed and documented by many impartial people such as Airline personnel and close relatives? Your claim about serial numbers is meaningless given all the other evidence.

The evidence is available and also on the internet. Why lie about it?

Since: May 10

YOUR MOM'S HOUSE

#3425 Mar 26, 2013
1. WRONG
2. WRONG
3. WRONG You are a Moron, there are tens of thousands of people in lower Manhattan every day and EVERYBODY was looking up after first impact
4. WRONG
5. Lt Col Steven O'Brien and crew
6. SO WHAT
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
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1. Planes were hijacked. The evidence shows the hijackers boarding the planes and passing through airport security.
.
There is no photographic evidence of the alleged hijackers boarding the planes and going thru security.
.
2. Phone calls were made from the planes describing the hijacking and one verbal exchange was head by ATC.
.
These phone calls were phony.(sic)
3. There is plenty of evidence such as thousands of eye witnesses and video footage of what actually happened.
.
Everyone knows lower Manhattan does not have thousands of people with nothing to do but look up and watch the sky at this time of the morning.
.
4. Airplane debris was recovered at the scenes.
.
What little debris alleged to be from the aircraft that was gathered was never identified by serial number back to the aircraft's maintenance records for a positive identification.
.
5. Other aircraft pilots also witnessed what happened.
.
What were the names of these alleged pilots who allegedly witnessed what happened?
.
6. ATF and FBI forensic teams collected and documented evidence.
.
None of which was ever revealed to the public for inspection.
.
All of the above are spurious and unsubstantiated claims and are hereby rejected.
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Unless You Believe In Government Magik ! Huh eh

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#3426 Mar 26, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
It was twenty-six stories high. It took 3 tons of plating per floor and 800lbs of explosives. It took months of planning using computer simulations. It proves the nothing at the WTC was demolished using explosive demolition procedures.
You Believe in Magic Huh?
Just answer the questions please.
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3 tons of plating per floor?
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What year was this?
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What building was this?
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How does it prove anything?
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What exactly are you blathering about anyway?
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No I Do Not Believe In Magik Huh Eh !

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#3427 Mar 26, 2013
YellowPissreality wrote:
1. WRONG
2. WRONG
3. WRONG You are a Moron, there are tens of thousands of people in lower Manhattan every day and EVERYBODY was looking up after first impact
4. WRONG
5. Lt Col Steven O'Brien and crew
6. SO WHAT
<quoted text>
Why should we care if he dismissed they facts and the evidence? He is perfectly free to continue making a fool of himself.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#3428 Mar 26, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
Just answer the questions please.
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3 tons of plating per floor?
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What year was this?
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What building was this?
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How does it prove anything?
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What exactly are you blathering about anyway?
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No I Do Not Believe In Magik Huh Eh !
We can all see how much attention you have given to this thread.

It proves that demolition of steel framed buildings is highly invasive and complicated. The bottom line is no explosives were used on the Towers or any other building at the WTC.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#3429 Mar 26, 2013
Just how do you apply steel plating to a floor?
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3 tons of steel plating per each of 26 floors?
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Show your math!
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You're not very smart are you?
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You Obviously Do Believe In Magik Huh Eh !

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#3430 Mar 26, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Sweetie, the existence of previous false flag operations imagined and/or conducted by the US government is not proof this was one. You might as well be saying that the Gulf of Tonkin Incident and the sinking of the Maine are proof that 9/11 had to be a false flag operation.
<quoted text>There was a whole lot of inaccurate and badly informed "reporting" on 9/11, that's what happens in the rush to be first and live television.
<quoted text>And yet multiple cell calls went through, as well as air phone calls. A number of them were recorded, people talked to people they knew. But of course, this was all impossible in 2001. Even though from personal experience I know you're wrong and if you were bouncing off AT&T's network, making and even receiving cell calls in flight was not usually a problem unless you were flying some distance from urban areas away from the coasts.
<quoted text>Yes dear, people kept hearing and witnessing explosions in areas of the buildings that weren't directly impacted by the jets. The force of the impact affected multiple floors of each building. No one reports seeing bombs, they witnessed explosions, they assumed bombs were the cause. Aside from a few burnt speculations, there has been no report of any explosive, incendiary or other residues that would indicate the presence of "bombs".
<quoted text>So, you're not completely misinformed. It's a start.
<quoted text>The crime scene was a multistory high pile of burning toxic debris shutting down several square miles of the city, keeping hundreds of thousands out of work and thousands out of their homes. It needed to be cleared quickly and the investigation conducted off site. Yes some of the steel was shipped off for recycling, but the steel from the relevant portions of the building was all studied when it was recovered. If you want WTC steel, there is still plenty of it around, all over the country.
<quoted text>Yes dear, much has been made of Silverstein's recorded "pulled" comment. To think that someone allegedly in on the plot would give such an order in a conversation he knew to be being recorded kind of defies imagination, don't it? I know a number of people who were in WTC 7 when this happened, I used to work as a consultant for a previous incarnation of the company that it was its primary tenant. You really have no idea.
Exactly.

Let's look at the "pulled it" statement.

1. Demolishing a steel framed building the size of WTC7 would take around 5 tons of steel plating per floor securely attached at each demolition point. This would be a highly invasive procedure which could not be done undetected.

2. It would take at least 2,000 lbs of explosive materials.

3. It would be a criminal act to endanger the occupants of a building which is scheduled for demolition.

4. Nobody would admit publicly to such a criminal act.

The bottom line is the building collapsed due to damage and structural failure as the firemen who were there attested too.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#3432 Mar 26, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Why should we care if he dismissed they facts and the evidence? He is perfectly free to continue making a fool of himself.
Why DO you care what I say? What is your agenda? You suddenly came here and are here everyday, all day long.
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Is this the forum you were assigned to by your section boss?
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Are you a jew hasbarat shill dis-information specialist?
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Do You Believe In Magik ?

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#3433 Mar 26, 2013
The Four Horsemen of Banking,
(Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo)
own the Four Horsemen of Oil,
(Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP Amoco and Chevron Texaco); in tandem with Deutsche Bank, BNP, Barclays and other European old money behemoths.
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But their monopoly over the global economy does not end at the edge of the oil patch.
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According to company 10K filings to the SEC, the Four Horsemen of Banking are among the top ten stock holders of virtually every Fortune 500 corporation.[1]
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So who then are the stockholders in these money center banks?
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This information is guarded much more closely. My queries to bank regulatory agencies regarding stock ownership in the top 25 US bank holding companies were given Freedom of Information Act status, before being denied on “national security” grounds. This is rather ironic, since many of the bank’s stockholders reside in Europe.
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One important repository for the wealth of the global oligarchy that owns these bank holding companies is US Trust Corporation – founded in 1853 and now owned by Bank of America. A recent US Trust Corporate Director and Honorary Trustee was Walter Rothschild. Other directors included Daniel Davison of JP Morgan Chase, Richard Tucker of Exxon Mobil, Daniel Roberts of Citigroup and Marshall Schwartz of Morgan Stanley.[2]
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J. W. McCallister, an oil industry insider with House of Saud connections, wrote in The Grim Reaper that information he acquired from Saudi bankers cited 80% ownership of the New York Federal Reserve Bank- by far the most powerful Fed branch- by just eight families, four of which reside in the US.
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They are the Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Lehmans and Kuhn Loebs of New York; the Rothschilds of Paris and London; the Warburgs of Hamburg; the Lazards of Paris; and the Israel Moses Seifs of Rome.
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These are our Masters.
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Remember them when hyperinflation is upon us and your bank account is seized.
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Or Do You Believe In Magik?
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Audit The Fed Now!

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