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Easy peasy! To get the outcome you want you just twiddle with the variables you set up and voila,! any result you desire.
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Especially if you want the majority of the collapse to take place behind the facade so you can't see it.
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When the roofline starts moving is when the 5.4 seconds starts.
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One moment standing, within a second later the whole thing is in free fall acceleration.
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Something which would be impossible unless 8 floors of the entire buildings worth of vertical support columns were removed all at once.
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Thermitic materials could do that almost silently huh eh !
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Doan Need No Jet Fuel ha hhahahahahahahahahah
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Still Funny Huh mu shu pig meat pot sticker Huh Eh !
I counted around 18 seconds on my computer clock, start to finish.

See for yourself. You are badly misinformed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Here is a detailed website with real stuff rather than Twoofer propaganda.

http://www.debunking911.com/WTC7.htm

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Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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Easy peasy! To get the outcome you want you just twiddle with the variables you set up and voila,! any result you desire.
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Especially if you want the majority of the collapse to take place behind the facade so you can't see it.
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When the roofline starts moving is when the 5.4 seconds starts.
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One moment standing, within a second later the whole thing is in free fall acceleration.
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Something which would be impossible unless 8 floors of the entire buildings worth of vertical support columns were removed all at once.
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Thermitic materials could do that almost silently huh eh !
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Doan Need No Jet Fuel ha hhahahahahahahahahah
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Still Funny Huh mu shu pig meat pot sticker Huh Eh !
Well the data and software is readily available...perhaps you and the fossil fuel denying young earth creationist plus all your sockies by proxy could put your HEAD together and actually...well, you know oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots glop...prove something?

But alas, you're but a proxy using troll with no life other than pretending to be other people on topix...right junkie?

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WasteWater wrote:
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I counted around 18 seconds on my computer clock, start to finish.
See for yourself. You are badly misinformed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
He's just trolling.

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Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Well the data and software is readily available...perhaps you and the fossil fuel denying young earth creationist plus all your sockies by proxy could put your HEAD together and actually...well, you know oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots glop...prove something?
But alas, you're but a proxy using troll with no life other than pretending to be other people on topix...right junkie?
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Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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Easy peasy! To get the outcome you want you just twiddle with the variables you set up and voila,! any result you desire.
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Especially if you want the majority of the collapse to take place behind the facade so you can't see it.
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When the roofline starts moving is when the 5.4 seconds starts.
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One moment standing, within a second later the whole thing is in free fall acceleration.
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Something which would be impossible unless 8 floors of the entire buildings worth of vertical support columns were removed all at once.
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Thermitic materials could do that almost silently huh eh !
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Doan Need No Jet Fuel ha hhahahahahahahahahah
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Still Funny Huh mu shu pig meat pot sticker Huh Eh !
What? More Twoofer dust? ROTFLMAO

Ready to bring your case to the grand jury yet?

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Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>He's just trolling.
Yea, well there is another piece I just uncovered. If you watch the towers fall, big chunks are cast out and fall at a much higher speed than the rest of the building proving beyond a doubt that the towers did not collapse at free fall speed indicated by the big chunks.

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<quoted text>Yea, well there is another piece I just uncovered. If you watch the towers fall, big chunks are cast out and fall at a much higher speed than the rest of the building proving beyond a doubt that the towers did not collapse at free fall speed indicated by the big chunks.
Exactly.

In the case of the towers, near free fall was the clue twoof needed to tell them they were demo'd.

In the case of WTC 7 it's a brief period of free fall that tells them it was demo'd.

No qualifications, just hyperbole and rhetoric to support their case.
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That doesn't qualify as or meet the minimum requirements of evidence.
Surely you jest. Twoofer dust?
You must be kidding me.
Why doesn't it meet the "minimum requirements" of evidence? What do you mean by that?

The dust from the WTC has been shown to have sophisticated pyrotechnics by more than one group of researchers, and even goevernment agencies have documented residues from extreme temperatures.
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Porkpie Hat wrote:
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Exactly.
In the case of the towers, near free fall was the clue twoof needed to tell them they were demo'd.
In the case of WTC 7 it's a brief period of free fall that tells them it was demo'd.
No qualifications, just hyperbole and rhetoric to support their case.
It isn't one or two components in free-fall. In the case of WTC 7 it's the entire visible outside, from every angle. This building is huge, so for the entire building to drop in free fall requires simultaneous destruction of many supports. That isn't hyperbole or rhetoric. It is an absolutely essential requirement for freefall, and it indicates human design.

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And it's all very clearly explained in the NIST report Stupid
we can't help you if you choose to ignore facts
Dan wrote:
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It isn't one or two components in free-fall. In the case of WTC 7 it's the entire visible outside, from every angle. This building is huge, so for the entire building to drop in free fall requires simultaneous destruction of many supports. That isn't hyperbole or rhetoric. It is an absolutely essential requirement for freefall, and it indicates human design.

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BUZZZZZZ .... WRONG !.... would you like to try double Jeopardy where the prizes can really add up ??
Dan wrote:
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Why doesn't it meet the "minimum requirements" of evidence? What do you mean by that?
The dust from the WTC has been shown to have sophisticated pyrotechnics by more than one group of researchers, and even goevernment agencies have documented residues from extreme temperatures.

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Dan wrote:
<quoted text>It isn't one or two components in free-fall. In the case of WTC 7 it's the entire visible outside, from every angle. This building is huge, so for the entire building to drop in free fall requires simultaneous destruction of many supports. That isn't hyperbole or rhetoric. It is an absolutely essential requirement for freefall, and it indicates human design.
Sorry junkie-boy sheep 20 pilots glop but your attempt falls well short of qualification or explanation.

Perhaps if you would've paid attention in school you wouldn't be the idiot you are today.

The point you losers still can't support it that fire can't cause the failures that led to global collapse...free fall and all.
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Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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One moment standing, within a second later the whole thing is in free fall acceleration.
NOT ONCE SECOND, And all buldings that fall will have elements of free-fall, BECAUSE THERE ARE POINTS WHERE THEY WILL HAVE NO RESISTANCE, such as between floors.

11. In a video, it appears that WTC 7 is descending in free fall, something that would not occur in the structural collapse that you describe. How can NIST ignore basic laws of physics?

In the draft WTC 7 report (released Aug. 21, 2008; available at http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/wt... ), NIST stated that the north face of the building descended 18 stories (the portion of the collapse visible in the video) in 5.4 seconds, based on video analysis of the building collapse. This time period is 40 percent longer than the 3.9 seconds this process would have taken if the north face of the building had descended solely under free fall conditions. During the public comment period on the draft report, NIST was asked to confirm this time difference and define the reasons for it in greater detail.

To further clarify the descent of the north face, NIST recorded the downward displacement of a point near the center of the roofline from first movement until the north face was no longer visible in the video. Numerical analyses were conducted to calculate the velocity and acceleration of the roofline point from the time-dependent displacement data. The instant at which vertical motion of the roofline first occurred was determined by tracking the numerical value of the brightness of a pixel (a single element in the video image) at the roofline. This pixel became brighter as the roofline began to descend because the color of the pixel started to change from that of the building façade to the lighter color of the sky.

The approach taken by NIST is summarized in NIST NCSTAR Report 1A, Section 3.6, and detailed in NIST NCSTAR Report 1-9, Section 12.5.3.

The analyses of the video (both the estimation of the instant the roofline began to descend and the calculated velocity and acceleration of a point on the roofline) revealed three distinct stages characterizing the 5.4 seconds of collapse:

Stage 1 (0 to 1.75 seconds): acceleration less than that of gravity (i.e., slower than free fall).
Stage 2 (1.75 to 4.0 seconds): gravitational acceleration (free fall)
Stage 3 (4.0 to 5.4 seconds): decreased acceleration, again less than that of gravity

This analysis showed that the 40 percent longer descent time—compared to the 3.9 second free fall time—was due primarily to Stage 1, which corresponded to the buckling of the exterior columns in the lower stories of the north face. During Stage 2, the north face descended essentially in free fall, indicating negligible support from the structure below. This is consistent with the structural analysis model, which showed the exterior columns buckling and losing their capacity to support the loads from the structure above. In Stage 3, the acceleration decreased as the upper portion of the north face encountered increased resistance from the collapsed structure and the debris pile below.
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Dan wrote:
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The dust from the WTC has been shown to have sophisticated pyrotechnics by more than one group of researchers, and even goevernment agencies have documented residues from extreme temperatures.
FALSE, Link!
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Dan wrote:
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It isn't one or two components in free-fall. In the case of WTC 7 it's the entire visible outside, from every angle.
WRONG, 16 - 18 Seconds!

The evidence supports the NIST contention that the building collapse progressed from the penthouse out as columns weakened by the fires.

The slow sinking of the penthouses, indicating the internal collapse of the building behind the visible north wall, took 8.2 seconds according to a NIST preliminary report.

Seismograph trace of the collapse of WTC 7 indicates that parts of the building were hitting the ground for 18 seconds. This means the collapse took at least 18 seconds, of which only the last approximately 15 seconds are visible in videos: 8 seconds for the penthouses and 7 seconds for the north wall to come down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Dan wrote:
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It isn't one or two components in free-fall. In the case of WTC 7 it's the entire visible outside, from every angle. This building is huge, so for the entire building to drop in free fall requires simultaneous destruction of many supports. That isn't hyperbole or rhetoric. It is an absolutely essential requirement for freefall, and it indicates human design.
Agreed 100%

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Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Isn't it convenient how NIST said the WTC7's interior supports all fell down behind the facade so it couldn't be seen from the outside.
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Well what could they do? There wasn't any other obscurants like smoke so they had to make SOMETHING up.
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Face it folks this building went into free fall acceleration within the space of 1 second till it hit the ground for a total collapse time of 5.4 seconds according to NIST's own graph of velocity over time.
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Pick some minutiae, make a big deal out of it and saying it isn't so, over and over doesn't make it true.
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Here, the facts speak for themselves no matter how NIST tries to wiggle out of it.
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Achieving free fall acceleration within the space of 1 second for any length of time is not possible without the removal of ALL the buildings support columns for at least 8 floors all at once.
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Thermitic materials do not explode, they burn fast, a good choice when you want to "CONTROL" an explosive demolition.
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The reason for demoing this building is most likely the Office of Emergency Command Center located here was full of incriminating evidence respective to the other buildings demolitions and had to be destroyed or the sinister plot would be found out.
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2.5 Seconds Of Free Fall, Picky Picky Picky
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Was that a New York Second ?
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Still Not As Funny As Jet Fuel Huh Eh !
Exactly..I agree
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Dan wrote:
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Why doesn't it meet the "minimum requirements" of evidence? What do you mean by that?
The dust from the WTC has been shown to have sophisticated pyrotechnics by more than one group of researchers, and even goevernment agencies have documented residues from extreme temperatures.
What? Twoofer dust? Sorry, it fails to meet the minimum standards of evidence collection. IOWs it could have been planted. Besides, it would take thousands of devices to accomplish your fantasy claim. Some would inevitably have failed leaving behind evidence which could not have been concealed. Have you ever thought about killing someone and concealing it? Can't really be done.
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Agreed 100%
Yea But who cares, you are a nut and believe this!
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You're an idiot sheen
What is less well-known, however, is that the U.S. military did try to create such a breed of 'supersoldier'. And that killing goats with psychic powers was just the tip of the iceberg.
Indeed, the fruits of Project Jedi, and several other clandestine paranormal projects, have been actively used in battle - and are almost certainly being employed in the war on terror and the hunt for Osama Bin Laden.
'You have to understand that these ideas were not considered wacky,' says Sergeant Glenn Wheaton, a Special Forces soldier seconded to Project Jedi.
'They were seen as the next military frontier. We needed to know whether it was possible to use paranormal forces for military ends. We also needed to know how to protect ourselves should they be used against us.'
One of the great proponents of psychic warfare was Major General Albert Stubblebine III - and back in 1983, he was at the height of his powers.
He was one of America's most distinguished soldiers and chief of U.S. Army Intelligence, with 16,000 soldiers under his command. He was instrumental in the invasions of Panama and Grenada. In fact, it is no exaggeration to say that Albert Stubblebine III was at the heart of America's military machine.
A Major General has a little higher rank than you private Sheen...
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Stubblebine graduated from the United States Military Academy and received a master's degree in chemical engineering from Columbia University. His active duty career spanned 32 years, and he is credited with redesigning the U.S. Army intelligence architecture during his command of the United States Army Intelligence and Security Command from 1981 to 1984.
Other U.S. Army commands that he led included the Electronic Research and Development Command (ERADCOM) and the Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM). Stubblebine was a key person in the U.S. military invasion of Grenada and was, according to a report published by the Daily Mail, "at the heart of America's military machine". He is a member of the Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.
After Stubblebine retired from the Army in 1984 he worked for BDM Corporation. He also acted as a part-time consultant to two government contractors, ERIM and Space Applications Corporation.
Stubblebine appeared in the 2006 documentary "One Nation Under Siege
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And you probably never heard of PSYOP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_Op ...(United_States)
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How could you know about it you spend all your time in denials and never research matters.
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I don't claim anything shill I am merely the messenger showing what other people claimed. Did I ever say I was a firm believer of it, you idiot.
And the US govt put it out, so get your email pen out and spew your idiocy to them.
Get a life shilly sheen

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