Was 911 an Inside Job

Was 911 an Inside Job

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#2179 Feb 24, 2013
Forgotten faith wrote:
Who Controls the Media?
What a person sees, hears and believes becomes reality to them. Whoever controls the information entering the minds of people, can control what people perceive as reality. Who controls the media? Most people would be surprised to know. An unbiased media reporting only truth and facts is a myth. This is even more evident from the following information: "In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States...FOX asserted that there are no written rules against distorting news in the media. They argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves..." This was hailed as a great victory for all media outlets. In no uncertain terms the responsibility for discerning truth from stories reported in the media is in the hands of you and me the consumers. The media has no legal responsibility to tell us the truth. So who controls the media? This section will present numerous articles answering that question.
http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/att/index.ph...
So now what....?!?
How far and deep does all of this go?
For every 'insane' question another 'ridiculous' answer crops up....
Sometimes I feel that 'the truth' is long buried before the acts even take place. Questions are answered before even asked.
Nothing seems to be real at face value.
 Dictionary entry overview: What does conspiracy mean? 
• CONSPIRACY (noun)
  The noun CONSPIRACY has 3 senses:
1. a secret agreement between two or more people to perform an unlawful act
2. a plot to carry out some harmful or illegal act (especially a political plot)
3. a group of conspirators banded together to achieve some harmful or illegal purpose
Every god damn thing is a conspiracy..
. The question to answer is....who can you believe more?
If someone lies to you over and over and fn over again.... Who is the fool to continue to keep believing them?
I just can't.....
Innocent till proven guilty...?. Nah the guilts already been proven countless other times....! I think that's why so many have doubts in these 'official reports'
Our perception is off. And that's relied upon.
That's why intelligent people use common sense. There is no workable scenario for the use of drones or missiles because the preponderance of evidence shows the planes being boarded and flying too their targets. It would be impossible to get rid of four planes along with the passengers. Likewise, it is preposterous to claim any buildings were demolished. Building demolition is both costly and invasive. The amount of devices required would leave behind loads of evidence. Too claim all the witnesses and evidence to be tainted borders on insanity. Evidence was photographed, documented, and collected at every crash site. It is clear the passenger planes crashed. Twoofer claims are based upon fantasy.

Since: May 10

YOUR MOM'S HOUSE

#2180 Feb 24, 2013
why do you hide your IP Sock Puppet ??
Forgotten faith wrote:
Who Controls the Media?
What a person sees, hears and believes becomes reality to them. Whoever controls the information entering the minds of people, can control what people perceive as reality. Who controls the media? Most people would be surprised to know. An unbiased media reporting only truth and facts is a myth. This is even more evident from the following information: "In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States...FOX asserted that there are no written rules against distorting news in the media. They argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves..." This was hailed as a great victory for all media outlets. In no uncertain terms the responsibility for discerning truth from stories reported in the media is in the hands of you and me the consumers. The media has no legal responsibility to tell us the truth. So who controls the media? This section will present numerous articles answering that question.
http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/att/index.ph...
So now what....?!?
How far and deep does all of this go?
For every 'insane' question another 'ridiculous' answer crops up....
Sometimes I feel that 'the truth' is long buried before the acts even take place. Questions are answered before even asked.
Nothing seems to be real at face value.
 Dictionary entry overview: What does conspiracy mean? 
• CONSPIRACY (noun)
  The noun CONSPIRACY has 3 senses:
1. a secret agreement between two or more people to perform an unlawful act
2. a plot to carry out some harmful or illegal act (especially a political plot)
3. a group of conspirators banded together to achieve some harmful or illegal purpose
Every god damn thing is a conspiracy..
. The question to answer is....who can you believe more?
If someone lies to you over and over and fn over again.... Who is the fool to continue to keep believing them?
I just can't.....
Innocent till proven guilty...?. Nah the guilts already been proven countless other times....! I think that's why so many have doubts in these 'official reports'
Our perception is off. And that's relied upon.

Since: Sep 12

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#2181 Feb 24, 2013
I'm in Canada. Why do you care so damn much?

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

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#2182 Feb 24, 2013
Forgotten faith wrote:
I'm in Canada. Why do you care so damn much?
I actually like Canada, been to Vancouver a few times and had a blast. So when I make fun of it, it's only because of the arrogance and ignorance of Dudley DoWrong who is a direct descendant of Benedict Arnold, as you can tell by his years of posts.

So to bad Canadians, your country sucks. To good Canadians, thank you for your pleasant hospitality.

Least we can all agree, f*ck Australia, they curse too much.

Insults Are Easier
hunter

Norwich, UK

#2183 Feb 25, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
The real planes were seen being boarded, departing, tracked and crashing into the buildings. You are mistaken.
There is not one shred of evidence to the contrary. Ditto for the damage done by the aircraft.
What tangible evidence do you have to disprove what is obvious?
How was it that the so called hijackers were not on the passenger list's
Plus do you know what a drone airline looks like on the underbelly.
Look at the underside of the second airliner.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#2186 Feb 25, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>That's about it. They ignore all the tangible evidence while posting unsubstantiated opinions from people who are unfamiliar with the details or testimony of eye witnesses.
Not only do they ignore it, they invent reasons no reasonable person will could possibly accept TO ignore it.

Threads like this are a perfect example. Ignorance has claimed reports of molten steel are proof of controlled demolition yet can't show how he arrived at that conclusion and hand waves away reports of the same from other fires because newspapers often get things wrong in the chaos of an event.

Seriously? WTF?

75% of twoofs arguments are based on these same types of reports and he totally misses the point of why any reports of molten steel in any event should be taken with a grain of salt.

It's cognitive dissonance at its finest!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#2187 Feb 25, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>I actually like Canada, been to Vancouver a few times and had a blast. So when I make fun of it, it's only because of the arrogance and ignorance of Dudley DoWrong who is a direct descendant of Benedict Arnold, as you can tell by his years of posts.

So to bad Canadians, your country sucks. To good Canadians, thank you for your pleasant hospitality.

Least we can all agree, f*ck Australia, they curse too much.

Insults Are Easier
Hahahahaha!!!

Oh that's priceless!

Two faced, thy name is twoofer!

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#2188 Feb 25, 2013
hunter wrote:
<quoted text>How was it that the so called hijackers were not on the passenger list's
Plus do you know what a drone airline looks like on the underbelly.
Look at the underside of the second airliner.
They weren't on the VICTIMS list you half baked moron.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#2189 Feb 25, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
List of unsupported claims by Ignorance is Bliss;
1) Newspaper articles I posted in the past showing reports of molten steel are common in fires were referring to "plated steel".
2) "Plated steel" has a lower melting point than non-plated steel.
3) Molten steel indicates controlled demolition.
4) NIST didn't follow the scientific method.
5) Molten steel can be discerned by sight alone.
Now Ignorance has been whining, crying and stamping his feet over NIST not following HIS personal interpretation of the scientific method, yet he's not applied that very method to any claim he's made.
I guess in his case, hypocrisy is also bliss!
Ah but he did admit that using reports from the chaotic time immediately after an event is as proof is wrong...which dismantles about 40% of twoofs argument to begin with. The question is, will he apply that standard to himself and/or the other members of TEAM TWOOF, or will he just continue fumbling down his path paved with massive hypocrisy?
Hey Ignorance, your argument stills requires qualification in order to avoid a nasty death by way of neglect!

Why is it you avoid apply the scientific method to your twoofs?

Is it because.

[Your] Hypocrisy is Easier

???

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#2190 Feb 25, 2013
Gulag n Slager wrote:
<quoted text>
The queen of England was visiting one of Canada's top hospitals, and during her tour of the floors she passed a room where a male patient was masturbating.
"Oh my god!", said the Queen, "That's disgraceful, what is the meaning of this???"
The doctor leading the tour explains, "I'm sorry your ladyship, this man has a very serious condition where the testicles rapidly fill with semen. If he doesn't do that five times a day, they would explode and he would most likely die instantly."
"Oh, I am sorry" said the Queen.
On the next floor they passed a room where a young nurse was giving a patient a blow job.
"Oh my God", said the Queen, "What's happening in there?"
The Doctor replied, "Same problem, better health plan."
Gulag walks into a dentists office and proclaims, "I'm a moth!".

The dentist says, "you don't need a dentist, you need a psychologist!".

Gulag says, "I know."

The dentist asks, "then why did you come in here?"

Gulag replies, "the light was on.".
Gulag n Slager

Gibsland, LA

#2191 Feb 25, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Gulag walks into a dentists office and proclaims, "I'm a moth!".
The dentist says, "you don't need a dentist, you need a psychologist!".
Gulag says, "I know."
The dentist asks, "then why did you come in here?"
Gulag replies, "the light was on.".
Porkpie goes to a doctor and says, "Doc, you've got to help me. My penis is orange." Doctor pauses to think and asks the guy to drop his pants so he can check. Damned if the guy's penis isn't orange. Doc tells Porkpie, "This is very strange. Sometimes things like this are caused by a lot of stress in a person's life."

Probing as to the causes of possible stress, the doc asks Porkie, "How are things going at work?" He responds that he was fired about six weeks ago. The doctor tells him that this must be the cause of the stress. Porkie responds, "No. The boss was a real as**ole, I had to work 20-30 hours of overtime every week and I had no say in anything that was happening. I found a new job a couple of weeks ago where I can set my own hours, I'm getting paid double what I got on the old job and the boss is a really great guy." So the doc figures this isn't the reason.

He asks Porkie, "How's your home life?" Porkie says, "Well, I got divorced about eight months ago." The doc figures that this has got to be the reason for all of his stress. Porkie says, "No. For years, all I listened to was nag, nag, nag. God, am I glad to be rid of that old bi*ch." So the doc takes a few minutes to think a little longer.

He inquires, "Do you have any hobbies or a social life?" Porkie replies, "No, not really. Most nights I sit home, watch some porno flicks and munch on Cheetos."
911 is not over

Pittsfield, MA

#2192 Feb 25, 2013
Porkpie goes to a doctor and says
LOoooooool
Guise Faux

San Anselmo, CA

#2194 Feb 25, 2013
The demolitions of the Twin Towers and Building 7 are accomplished through the detonation of high-explosive charges inconspicuously installed in all three buildings' elevator shafts, and, in the case of Building 7, small cutter charges placed adjacent perimeter columns near the building's base.

The number of explosive charges used in the Twin Towers is far less than would be employed in conventional demolitions of such large buildings, but their aggregate explosive energy is much greater. Each charge is contained in a capsule weighing about 40 pounds and encased in an impact- and fire-resistant casing similar to the casings that shield aircraft black boxes.

Each demolition charge has a detonator that goes off when it detects a radio signal that matches its unique code. Each charge is assigned to the nearest of a score of radio repeater clusters also hidden in the elevator shafts. During each tower's demolition sequence, a radio in Building 7 sends signals for the various explosive charges in rapid succession through the repeater clusters, forming a 2-level hub-and-spoke network. Software on the demolition-controlling computer allows the technicians to make last-minute changes to the programmed demolition sequences, such as to account for the positions at which the aircraft struck.

The high-explosive charges resemble conventional thermobaric devices, in which an initial charge disperses an explosive aerosol without detonating it, and a second charge ignites the aerosol, producing a strong blast wave. The delay between the dispersal and detonating charges is about five seconds, allowing the aerosol to traverse the distance between the elevator shafts and perimeter walls before being detonated. The explosive is designed to have almost no flash.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#2195 Feb 25, 2013
Forgotten faith wrote:
Who Controls the Media?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M edia

No one controls the Media, because there is no such thing as "the Media" to be able to control. Information can be passed from person to persons in ways that do not require third party assistance. We have become more dependent on that third party assistance in doing the same thing before there ever were alternate forms of communication, which can be controlled by a fourth party, but in the end they really aren't necessary and thus impotent to control what we "know".
Forgotten faith wrote:
So now what....?!?
Now that you know, that when you get right down to it, that the ONLY person controlling what you are allowed to "know" is you. If you have questions, you can find the answers one way or another. The only one who really can keep you from finding it is you.
Forgotten faith wrote:
How far and deep does all of this go?
Only as far as you imagine it to. You can imagine an all powerful "they" who micromanage our access to "knowledge" and who control our very lives, or you can imagine something else.
Forgotten faith wrote:
For every 'insane' question another 'ridiculous' answer crops up....
Because insane questions have ridiculous answers, if you want reasoned answers, ask reasoned questions.
Forgotten faith wrote:
Sometimes I feel that 'the truth' is long buried before the acts even take place. Questions are answered before even asked.
It depends on what you want to believe that "the truth" to be. When it comes to 9/11, there tends to be a lot of them, it's spawned its own cottage industry. The actual truth only looks buried because there are just so many other truths that have grown up around it. It's like playing Where's Waldo?. He hasn't been redacted by a CIA/Mossad hit squad led by the Queen of England in order to prevent you from ever finding the truth, keep looking.
Forgotten faith wrote:
Nothing seems to be real at face value.
That is an issue above my pay grade, seek professional assistance.
Forgotten faith wrote:
 Dictionary entry overview: What does conspiracy mean? 
I didn't realize that there was any dispute as to whether or not a conspiracy existed, only as to who was involved and what folk believe they actually did as part of one or more.
Forgotten faith wrote:
Every god damn thing is a conspiracy..
This is another issue for which you might consider professional assistance, it is after all, a rather paranoid thing for you to say.
Forgotten faith wrote:
. The question to answer is....who can you believe more?
That is true for all of us.
Forgotten faith wrote:
If someone lies to you over and over and fn over again.... Who is the fool to continue to keep believing them?
Well yeah, but who do you believe, besides everybody, has lied to you? To us?

You can fool some of the people, all of the time, all of the people, some of the time, but you will never be able to fool all of the people all of the time. You just need to figure out where you are in that concept. I've got my idea and the impression that you are aiding and abetting yourself into it.
Forgotten faith wrote:
I just can't.....
We know.
Forgotten faith wrote:
Innocent till proven guilty...?.
Great concept, too bad it isn't human nature to put it into practice.
Forgotten faith wrote:
Nah the guilts already been proven countless other times....!
You're just now figuring this out? Humans judge. The notion that we should wait to do so until their guilt or innocence has been proved to a group of our peers beyond any reasonable doubt is an incredibly noble one of us, but one that very few of us actually live up to.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#2196 Feb 25, 2013
Where'd did #2193 go to.

More of that censorship by the mods
That's what makes this forum corrupt.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#2197 Feb 25, 2013
Agreed Guise Faux....
Delivered by RDX Cutter charges
And a possible low yield mini hydrogen bomb
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...
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https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...
Guise Faux

San Anselmo, CA

#2198 Feb 25, 2013
Forgotten faith wrote:
Who Controls the Media?
What a person sees, hears and believes becomes reality to them. Whoever controls the information entering the minds of people, can control what people perceive as reality. Who controls the media? Most people would be surprised to know. An unbiased media reporting only truth and facts is a myth. This is even more evident from the following information: "In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States...FOX asserted that there are no written rules against distorting news in the media. They argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves..." This was hailed as a great victory for all media outlets. In no uncertain terms the responsibility for discerning truth from stories reported in the media is in the hands of you and me the consumers. The media has no legal responsibility to tell us the truth. So who controls the media? This section will present numerous articles answering that question.
http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/att/index.ph...
So now what....?!?
How far and deep does all of this go?
The Reuters news agency was purchased in the late 1800's by Jacob (James) Mayer Rothschild in order to control and muzzle the press about Rothschilds actions.

This was right before 1895 when Edmond James de Rothschild the youngest son of Jacob (James) Mayer Rothschild visits Palestine and subsequently supplies the funds to found the first Jewish colonies there, this is to further their long term objective of creating a Rothschild owned country.

1897: The Rothschilds found the Zionist Congress to promote Zionism (a political movement with the sole aim of moving all Jews into a singularly Jewish nation state) and arrange its first meeting in Munich. However due to extreme opposition from local Jews, who are quite happy where they are, this meeting has to be moved to Basle, Switzerland and takes place on 29 August. The meeting is chaired by Ashkenazi Jew, Theodor Herzl, who would state in his diaries,

"It is essential that the sufferings of Jews….become worse….this will assist in realization of our plans….I have an excellent idea….I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth….The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-Semites shall be our best friends."

Herzl is subsequently elected President of the Zionist Organisation which adopts the, "Rothschild Red Hexagram or Sign," as the Zionist flag which 51 years later will end up as the flag of Israel.

Edward Henry Harriman becomes a director of the Union Pacific Railroad and goes on to take control of the Southern Pacific Railroad. This is all financed by the Rothschilds.

So you were wondering how far and deep this all goes?

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmi...

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#2199 Feb 25, 2013
For the record....
Was 911 an Inside Job
No 5,240 59%
YES 3,450 39%
Possibly 35 0%
Don't know 27

Seeing that in the beginnings of this thread the yes's were far in the lead. Then overnight they were a 1000 votes behind. Nothing fishy there eh?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#2200 Feb 25, 2013
Forgotten faith wrote:
I think that's why so many have doubts in these 'official reports'
We are talking the perception of past events by others, absolute certainty is not possible. It is reasonable to have doubts, it is human nature, but not all doubts are reasonable. A belief in an omnipotent they, who control the media and by extension, us and who planned and perpetrated acts of violence that we all witnessed, then covered them up by lying as to what actually happened and who was really to blame, because the rest of us are helping them do so, isn't the most reasonable doubt I've heard lately. Maybe it's the government shill in me, I don't know.
Forgotten faith wrote:
Our perception is off.
Hello??? What do you imagine that several of us have been trying to point out to you?
Forgotten faith wrote:
And that's relied upon.
Again, seek professional assistance.
Guise Faux

San Anselmo, CA

#2202 Feb 25, 2013
Personnel Requirements

By exploiting the hierarchical military command structure and automation, a small group of conspirators is able to execute the complex attack. The group consists of top-ranking Pentagon officials, top officials in the New York City government, and a small team of technicians. The technicians gain access to systems through authorizations passed down from the high-ranking officials.

The Pentagon

The Pentagon attack is engineered by simply gaining access to and programming the defensive systems already in place at the Pentagon. Most of the ensuing cover-up is carried out by personnel not knowingly involved in the conspiracy, but simply acting to protect their superiors.

The Destruction in Manhattan

The deployment of the explosive charges in the three World Trade Center skyscrapers is performed by a team of just three technicians working over a period of about four weeks. The explosive charges, disguised to look like lighting fixtures, are placed on the roofs of elevator cars and installed on the inside walls of the elevator shafts by a technician riding on the elevator. There are no security cameras inside the shafts to capture this operation.

A controller is placed on each floor to signal the dozens of charges on that floor via short-distance radio links. After the attack, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani assures, through his control of the police force and over city contracts, that Ground Zero is sealed off and that the evidence is destroyed.

Total Personnel Involved

The personnel who execute the attack are stratified into two layers: the command team, and several operations teams. The command team plans the operation, starting about a year before the attack, directs the operations teams for several months in advance of the attack, and monitors and coordinates the operation on the day of the attack.

The operations teams perform specific tasks to prepare for the operation for several months before, and implement it on the day of the attack. Only the members of the command team are aware of the entire scope of the operation. Members of the operations teams are briefed on a need-to-know basis.

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