What do u think of Jesus Christ?(God)
atheists dont have a clue

Kalamazoo, MI

#75755 Dec 4, 2012
Myth Buster wrote:
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Once again, there's no such thing as a belief system. Rational adults don't have beliefs. Rational adults study science based in reality on observation and experimentation.
It's too bad that you don't know what a rational adult is.
But you sure do know what selfishness is. lol
atheists dont have a clue

Kalamazoo, MI

#75756 Dec 4, 2012
Resurrectionologist wrote:
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The real irony of atheism (or anti-theism) is the circular reasoning they use, while calling us illogical or unintelligent. There's a reason that anti-theists like Pomona Atheist (aka Myth Buster) reject apologetics. They like to claim that apologetics is just a set of canned responses to silence critics, and that's not true at all.
Apologetics is just a logical and very reasonable defense of our own faith. The real reason that PAMB and those like him (Pamona Atheist aka PA + Myth Buster aka MB = PAMB) don't like apologetics is because apologetics corrects their presuppositions. They don't like to be corrected. Correcting them causes them to question their own worldview, and in turn if they question their worldview too much, it compromises their comfort zone. It implies that they could be wrong. This is something that atheists who wish to maintain their worldview must avoid at all costs if they are to hold onto that. So it's not really logical at all. Sure they'll try to revert to scientific data to assure themselves that God doesn't exist, but that's more circular reasoning. Science is completely compatible with spiritual beliefs. Science answers the processes, while spirituality answers the bigger questions such as "who" and "why."
The real enemy of science isn't religion or spirituality, but naturalism. Naturalism is the dogmatic, ethnocentric belief that every event must have a natural cause. This isn't really true. The laws of nature are as not rigid and absolute as the atheist wants to believe. The laws of nature are such that they describe what generally happens. The laws of nature are not supposed to declare what can and can't happen. If there is an all powerful creator, then it's only logical to presume that He could intervene as needed and act outside of the normal events within nature.
The atheist rejection is based more upon emotion. They can't stand the thought of being wrong, but they take it to extremes to make their premises and conclusions the same. This is what I find ironic.
Then when we point this out, they respond with more ad hominem. At this point, consistent with his posting style, PAMB has two choices:
1- Ignore this post altogether like he did on my post about correct methodology in regard to historical research or;
2- Reply with more ad hominem arguments.(Insults)
Anyone care to place a wager on which way he will go?
I hope everyone is having a great Thanksgiving.
It is ironic. They have 'faith' that being arrogant and selfish is intelligent and the best way to be. And they don't blame their thinking for this, because they got their thinking from other people that they have 'faith' in, and they're too arrogant. lol. Who they blame is the christians or the people that aren't like them. And then they claim to be intelligent too. lol Christians should never believe anything an atheist says, really, nobody should.

I think that your point about them hating being wrong is a big key. As far as I can tell, because of their arrogance, they have inferiority complexes when they see/hear a christian(or even anybody that does different than them) because it is against what they believe(and what they believe is what gives them their arrogance--they can't live without that, lol). And then the inferiority complex comes and it brings these thoughts about being wrong and other negative thoughts into their minds(like they aren't the greatest thing in the world as they thought they were) and they blame the christians(or moral people) for putting these thoughts in their heads. They should be adults and be responsible for their own thoughts and beliefs. They're the ones putting them in their heads, not other people.
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atheists dont have a clue

Kalamazoo, MI

#75757 Dec 4, 2012
Resurrectionologist wrote:
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The real irony of atheism (or anti-theism) is the circular reasoning they use, while calling us illogical or unintelligent. There's a reason that anti-theists like Pomona Atheist (aka Myth Buster) reject apologetics. They like to claim that apologetics is just a set of canned responses to silence critics, and that's not true at all.
Apologetics is just a logical and very reasonable defense of our own faith. The real reason that PAMB and those like him (Pamona Atheist aka PA + Myth Buster aka MB = PAMB) don't like apologetics is because apologetics corrects their presuppositions. They don't like to be corrected. Correcting them causes them to question their own worldview, and in turn if they question their worldview too much, it compromises their comfort zone. It implies that they could be wrong. This is something that atheists who wish to maintain their worldview must avoid at all costs if they are to hold onto that. So it's not really logical at all. Sure they'll try to revert to scientific data to assure themselves that God doesn't exist, but that's more circular reasoning. Science is completely compatible with spiritual beliefs. Science answers the processes, while spirituality answers the bigger questions such as "who" and "why."
The real enemy of science isn't religion or spirituality, but naturalism. Naturalism is the dogmatic, ethnocentric belief that every event must have a natural cause. This isn't really true. The laws of nature are as not rigid and absolute as the atheist wants to believe. The laws of nature are such that they describe what generally happens. The laws of nature are not supposed to declare what can and can't happen. If there is an all powerful creator, then it's only logical to presume that He could intervene as needed and act outside of the normal events within nature.
The atheist rejection is based more upon emotion. They can't stand the thought of being wrong, but they take it to extremes to make their premises and conclusions the same. This is what I find ironic.
Then when we point this out, they respond with more ad hominem. At this point, consistent with his posting style, PAMB has two choices:
1- Ignore this post altogether like he did on my post about correct methodology in regard to historical research or;
2- Reply with more ad hominem arguments.(Insults)
Anyone care to place a wager on which way he will go?
I hope everyone is having a great Thanksgiving.
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And their circular reasoning I believe comes from their fear of being wrong, so their arrogance takes over and uses circular reasoning so that they can be right. Their fear of being wrong and not being superior to everyone that believes in God outweighs them using good reasoning and logic.

And you're right about the things they believe are based on their emotions, how things make them feel. If it makes them feel superior, they like it.

God just doesn't fit into their belief system of them being superior to all. lol. So they will never be able to prove he exists even if they try. But it takes someone like us to teach them that.
Myth Buster

Glendale, AZ

#75758 Dec 4, 2012
Eddy Boyd wrote:
Proponents of naturalism and secularism engage in negative revisionist history as well.
You should have quit while you were ahead. Rational people have no reason to exaggerate the violent history of barbaric religious cult.
Myth Buster

Glendale, AZ

#75759 Dec 4, 2012
atheists dont have a clue wrote:
But you sure do know what selfishness is.
Wrong! It's brainwashed religious cultists like you who consistently do things for selfish reasons.
Myth Buster

Glendale, AZ

#75760 Dec 4, 2012
atheists dont have a clue wrote:
They should be adults and be responsible for their own thoughts and beliefs.
The blind hypocrisy of the religiously retarded imbecilic sociopathic godbot never cease to amaze. It's cowardly cultists like you who mindlessly adhere to dogma-based indoctrination systems for purely selfish reasons.
Myth Buster

Glendale, AZ

#75761 Dec 4, 2012
christians dont have a clue wrote:
God just doesn't fit into their belief system
There's no such thing as a belief system. Rational adults study science based in reality on observation and experimentation. Godbots like you are programmed to mindlessly adhere to an indoctrination system without questioning orders just like the Nazis.
atheists dont have a clue

Kalamazoo, MI

#75762 Dec 4, 2012
Myth Buster wrote:
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Wrong! It's brainwashed religious cultists like you who consistently do things for selfish reasons.
Wrong. That's only your arrogance and selfishness speaking. lol. But that's what I expect because that's all you've got.
atheists dont have a clue

Kalamazoo, MI

#75763 Dec 4, 2012
Myth Buster wrote:
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The blind hypocrisy of the religiously retarded imbecilic sociopathic godbot never cease to amaze. It's cowardly cultists like you who mindlessly adhere to dogma-based indoctrination systems for purely selfish reasons.
Nah, that's all a myth. Come back to reality or take some medication for that psychopathic behavior. It's cowardly people like you that take the selfish and arrogant road. lol And I can see how it really screws with your mind.
atheists dont have a clue

Kalamazoo, MI

#75764 Dec 4, 2012
Myth Buster wrote:
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There's no such thing as a belief system. Rational adults study science based in reality on observation and experimentation. Godbots like you are programmed to mindlessly adhere to an indoctrination system without questioning orders just like the Nazis.
Irrational adults like you believe in selfishness and arrogance.
Selfishbots like you are programmed to mindlessly adhere to what other people imply without questioning, for fear of being put down. lol.
And speaking of nazis, Hitler had the same selfishness and arrogance that you and your fellow non-believers have. lol

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#75765 Dec 5, 2012
Mysterious wrote:
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Why don't you just admit that you don't *want* Jesus to have existed? It's a more respectable approach than what you're currently doing. You're making yourself look foolish.
Hear.. Hear... absolutely agree with you :)

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#75766 Dec 5, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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"Atheism is a crutch for those who cannot bear the reality of God." -
Tom Stoppard
Yep....

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#75767 Dec 5, 2012
Myth Buster wrote:
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You should have quit while you were ahead. Rational people have no reason to exaggerate the violent history of barbaric religious cult.
To think that one group of people are always wrong based upon one's own beliefs is a very distorted and potentially dangerous view of reality. This applies to both theists and non-theists. There are many ethical atheists and non-theists, and there are many ethical Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc. You seem very angry when challenged.
May I ask why?

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#75768 Dec 5, 2012
Myth Buster wrote:
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There's no such thing as a belief system. Rational adults study science based in reality on observation and experimentation. Godbots like you are programmed to mindlessly adhere to an indoctrination system without questioning orders just like the Nazis.
Belief systems do exist and they're different for each person. Of course there are overlapping characteristics. For instance, in science belief in a hypothesis or theory is verified or refuted empirically; but the methods for doing so are a result of systematic beliefs about methodology. Many leaders of the clergy encourage questions from those who attend worship services. Christianity is becoming much more progressive than many people, even fellow Christians, may be aware of. Blind faith or dogmatic approaches to belief is a very dangerous way of life. People should be free to believe as they see fit when the evidence is closely examined with an open mind. This applies to both theism and non-theism.
Myth Buster

Glendale, AZ

#75769 Dec 5, 2012
christians dont have a clue wrote:
Wrong
Religious indoctrination requires ignorance and cowardice resulting in arrogance and intolerance. You're a an especially narcissistic and sociopathic Christian godbot who instinctively projects your inadequacies onto your intellectual superiors. You're a punk-ass national embarrassment, an outright disgrace to the human race and a complete waste of a sperm cell.
Myth Buster

Glendale, AZ

#75770 Dec 5, 2012
Serah wrote:
Hear.. Hear... absolutely agree with you
Of course, you do. You're so completely out of your mind that you believe in fairies. You're one of the world's most severe cased of mental retardation via Christian brainwashing and will waste your entire adult life with the mind of a two-year old.
Myth Buster

Glendale, AZ

#75771 Dec 5, 2012
Eddy Boyd wrote:
There are many ethical atheists and non-theists
Non-theists who know the difference between right and wrong are far more ethical than theists who mindlessly accept the personal prejudices of the terrestrial authors of their cult's unholy book as being divinely inspired.
Myth Buster

Glendale, AZ

#75772 Dec 5, 2012
Eddy Boyd wrote:
Christianity is becoming much more progressive than many people
What a load of shit! The ONLY enlightened Christians are former Christians who have grown up and recognized organized religion as a cruel and dangerous hoax.

You seem obsessed with rationalizing your self-degrading Christian cultist lifestyle instead of having the guts to acknowledge that religious addiction is a mental illness not a lifestyle choice and seeking professional treatment.

http://articles.exchristian.net/2002/10/becom...

Are you caught up in an unhealthy, compulsive and destructive Christian lifestyle?

Do you feel that your Jesus fetish is screwing up your brain and isolating you from the rest of modern society?

Do crucifixes, Bibles and songs like "Onward Christian Soldiers" turn you on?

The truth is, you don't have to be a Christian. You can recover. There is hope. Many men and woman have reclaimed their brains and walked away from the Christian lifestyle. It's not about hate, it's about hope.
downhill246

Delray Beach, FL

#75773 Dec 5, 2012
Myth Buster wrote:
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You should have quit while you were ahead. Rational people have no reason to exaggerate the violent history of barbaric religious cult.
He kicked your butt.
downhill246

Delray Beach, FL

#75774 Dec 5, 2012
Myth Buster wrote:
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What a load of shit! The ONLY enlightened Christians are former Christians who have grown up and recognized organized religion as a cruel and dangerous hoax.
You seem obsessed with rationalizing your self-degrading Christian cultist lifestyle instead of having the guts to acknowledge that religious addiction is a mental illness not a lifestyle choice and seeking professional treatment.
http://articles.exchristian.net/2002/10/becom...
Are you caught up in an unhealthy, compulsive and destructive Christian lifestyle?
Do you feel that your Jesus fetish is screwing up your brain and isolating you from the rest of modern society?
Do crucifixes, Bibles and songs like "Onward Christian Soldiers" turn you on?
The truth is, you don't have to be a Christian. You can recover. There is hope. Many men and woman have reclaimed their brains and walked away from the Christian lifestyle. It's not about hate, it's about hope.
Apparently you went from hope to hate and all you have to do is read your own posts to confirm that fact.. Busted!

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