What do u think of Jesus Christ?(God)

[ReligionMustDie]

The christians believe in that Bible with great fevor yet they will ignore the fact it was nothing but a scribble pad for the Catholic church.

[Openminded thinker]

ReligionMustDie wrote:

The only purpose of this thread is for the Christians to give each comfort in their fairy tale.
They are not going to open their mind to your views nor mine let alone the Christian deeds which actually made Christianity what it is today.
They don't even understand how they actually came to believe in Christianity nor do they want to. Jesus and his rewards is all that matters to them.

Yes I agree, and they even have that wrong. Because they are all self righteous, and believe they have the authority given to them to judge people, condem those who dont follow in there insanity. Jesus and his rewards are one of the major motivators for them, but in some churches (branches off the Catholic Church) you hear that Satan has the power to do almost anything. Almost as if this Satan has more power than there God. That is the saddest thing I have been encountered with. They are made to feel unworthy and must become like Jesus, so they develop self righteousness. Its the people in these Religions that claim they are walking in his footsteps that are actually judging people according to income, clothing, assets, vehicles, the list goes on and on. They also have the biggest Skeletons in the closet, Darker than others....

[ReligionMustDie]

Heh, there is a lot of writings from various messiahs, supposed mystical people and so on, doesn't make any of it true.I could call myself a God too. I don't think anyone would believe it these days because the intelligence level of people are a far sight higher than what was in the dark ages.
there has been quite a few messiahs and reincarnations since the end of the dark ages yet not many believe them. Infact, if Jesus dropped right down to earth right now and said he was Jesus H. christ, he would either be locked up in a nut house or he would get his ass kicked by the christians for mocking their dear lord.

[ReligionMustDie]

Openminded thinker wrote:

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What about the lost scrolls, the dead sea scrolls, or the Nag Hammadi Library?????????

What about them?????

[ReligionMustDie]

Are they something out of the ordinary of ink and paper,,hmmm?

[ReligionMustDie]

limitations, my dear friend,limitations.

[ReligionMustDie]

just as you spoken of.

[ReligionMustDie]

Don't get the wrong idea here that I am picking on the disabled and the paraplegic , because I am not.

[ReligionMustDie]

Furthermore, This is not speaking of any "contradictions" of the bible...

Where Did They Get Their Ideas From?
asclepius
Asclepius


Asclepius. Believed by the Greeks to have once lived as a man and raised to a god after death. He was fathered by a god – Apollo – but with a human mother (Coronis, a beautiful maiden of Thessaly). He was raised by the centaur Chiron in a cave and from him learned the art of healing. But Asclepius committed the unpardonable sin of raising a man from the dead, enraging Hades for cheating him of dead souls. Zeus, afraid that Asclepius might render all men immortal, slew him with a thunderbolt. Apollo interceded on behalf of his son and persuaded Zeus to make Asclepius the god of medicine. As an immortal, Asclepius was able to cure the sick from the realm of the gods.

Certainly, for centuries, sick people went to the temples dedicated to Asclepius hoping for a cure. It was said that those who came to Asclepius on crutches went away dancing happily. Famous temples of the god were at Pergamum, Epidaurus, Cos and Rome. Full participation in the healing program involved sleeping inside the temple compound – in effect, the first hospitals – where 'holistic' treatment involved massage, baths and dream interpretation. Fortunate individuals did indeed experience a "healing miracle" and gave testimony to the cure effected by this Greek god.

The early Christians attacked the cult of Asclepius with great venom, indicating a close rivalry between the two cults and a certain embarrassment among Christians repeatedly being told that Asclepios had already done all of Jesus' tricks and had done them better.

[ReligionMustDie]

Just more christian inspired terror.

[ReligionMustDie]

go ahead, your turn.

[ReligionMustDie]

Moses and Jesus are floating on the sea in a small boat. They talk for a while about the good ol' days. Jesus thinks for a second and says to Moses, "Do you
think you still have the touch?"
Moses looks at him and shrugs, "Dunno. Let me try."
So Moses stands up in the boat, and with a grand gesture parts the sea. The
boat settles on the bottom of the sea and Jesus says, "Good!"
Moses brings his hands back together and the sea comes back together ant the
boat is floating once more on the waves.
Moses looks to Jesus and says, "Now you try, okay?"
"Okay," Jesus says, then lightly steps out onto the surface of the water - then sinks like a rock.
Moses, acting quickly, pulls the floundering Jesus back into the boat and asks,
"What went wrong?"
Jesus sputters, spits some water, and says, "Well, the last time I tried this,
I didn't have holes in my feet!"
ROTFLMAO!

[Openminded thinker]

ReligionMustDie wrote:

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What about them?????

They are never mentioned with reference to any of these topics, only the bible!!!!!

[Openminded thinker]

ReligionMustDie wrote:

Heh, there is a lot of writings from various messiahs, supposed mystical people and so on, doesn't make any of it true.I could call myself a God too. I don't think anyone would believe it these days because the intelligence level of people are a far sight higher than what was in the dark ages.
there has been quite a few messiahs and reincarnations since the end of the dark ages yet not many believe them. Infact, if Jesus dropped right down to earth right now and said he was Jesus H. christ, he would either be locked up in a nut house or he would get his ass kicked by the christians for mocking their dear lord.

Jesus said we are gods, I am stating this because of your comment about calling yourself a god..lol
Christianity would lock him in a nut house, but they actually believe that they will be taken into the clouds and the rest of mankind will be left to suffer....the word Rapture! I whole different topic all together!

[Openminded thinker]

ReligionMustDie wrote:

Furthermore, This is not speaking of any "contradictions" of the bible...
Where Did They Get Their Ideas From?
asclepius
Asclepius
Asclepius. Believed by the Greeks to have once lived as a man and raised to a god after death. He was fathered by a god – Apollo – but with a human mother (Coronis, a beautiful maiden of Thessaly). He was raised by the centaur Chiron in a cave and from him learned the art of healing. But Asclepius committed the unpardonable sin of raising a man from the dead, enraging Hades for cheating him of dead souls. Zeus, afraid that Asclepius might render all men immortal, slew him with a thunderbolt. Apollo interceded on behalf of his son and persuaded Zeus to make Asclepius the god of medicine. As an immortal, Asclepius was able to cure the sick from the realm of the gods.
Certainly, for centuries, sick people went to the temples dedicated to Asclepius hoping for a cure. It was said that those who came to Asclepius on crutches went away dancing happily. Famous temples of the god were at Pergamum, Epidaurus, Cos and Rome. Full participation in the healing program involved sleeping inside the temple compound – in effect, the first hospitals – where 'holistic' treatment involved massage, baths and dream interpretation. Fortunate individuals did indeed experience a "healing miracle" and gave testimony to the cure effected by this Greek god.
The early Christians attacked the cult of Asclepius with great venom, indicating a close rivalry between the two cults and a certain embarrassment among Christians repeatedly being told that Asclepios had already done all of Jesus' tricks and had done them better.

This is Fact???????? I have heard someone once tell a story about Hercules, and how it is so similar to Samson. Greek Mythology so they claim. But interesting how to two are very similar.
Just as you have explained in the above quote.

[Openminded thinker]

ReligionMustDie wrote:

Don't get the wrong idea here that I am picking on the disabled and the paraplegic , because I am not.

I do not have that idea at all, i dont see you picking on anyone...you are picking on Religion-Christianity...which is a form of mind control. I applaud your statements, but as you have said in another quote, that people are not on here to believe what we believe....They are on here to try and justify there religious beliefs....Or Jesus and the wonderful things they will recieve by attending this religion....lmao

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Thursday, October 23, 2008

'No God' slogans for UK city buses

Bendy-buses with the slogan "There's probably no God" could soon be running on the streets of London.

The atheist posters are the idea of the British Humanist Association (BHA) and have been supported by prominent atheist Professor Richard Dawkins.

The BHA planned only to raise £5,500, which was to be matched by Professor Dawkins, but it has now raised more than £36,000 of its own accord.

It aims to have two sets of 30 buses carrying the signs for four weeks.

The complete slogan reads: "There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life."

As the campaign has raised more than anticipated, it will also have posters on the inside of buses as well.

The BHA is also considering extending the campaign to cities including Birmingham, Manchester and Edinburgh.

Professor Dawkins said: "Religion is accustomed to getting a free ride - automatic tax breaks, unearned respect and the right not to be offended, the right to brainwash children.

"Even on the buses, nobody thinks twice when they see a religious slogan plastered across the side.

"This campaign to put alternative slogans on London buses will make people think - and thinking is anathema to religion."

Hanne Stinson, chief executive of the BHA, said: "We see so many posters advertising salvation through Jesus or threatening us with eternal damnation, that I feel sure that a bus advert like this will be welcomed as a breath of fresh air.

"If it raises a smile as well as making people think, so much the better."

But Stephen Green of pressure group Christian Voice said: "Bendy-buses, like atheism, are a danger to the public at large.

"I should be surprised if a quasi-religious advertising campaign like this did not attract graffiti.
But Stephen Green of pressure group Christian Voice said: "Bendy-buses, like atheism, are a danger to the public at large.

"I should be surprised if a quasi-religious advertising campaign like this did not attract graffiti.

"People don't like being preached at. Sometimes it does them good, but they still don't like it."

However the Methodist Church said it thanked Professor Dawkins for encouraging a "continued interest in God".

Spirituality and discipleship officer Rev Jenny Ellis said: "This campaign will be a good thing if it gets people to engage with the deepest questions of life."

She added: "Christianity is for people who aren't afraid to think about life and meaning."

The buses with the slogans will run in Westminster from January.

[Openminded thinker]

ReligionMustDie wrote:

Are they something out of the ordinary of ink and paper,,hmmm?

Actually they are much more clarifying, and yes even though its ink and paper, its amazing and contradicts any religion today! So I find it rather enlightning....Also a person once asked me "How do you know what you believe is true and factual?"
I have a broad study and a very complex belief.(Nothing is simplified) I have studied most aspects of science, I have studied factual information for the past 15 years. All I believe, no matter what it is, Science, Spiritual, or esoteric the list goes on, all ties into itself. I can place all my beliefs together and nothing contradicts it.... Religion can not and never will be able to make that statement...Thats how someone who is programmed can descern what lies they are told....

[ReligionMustDie]

"Spirituality and discipleship officer Rev Jenny Ellis said: "Christianity is for people who aren't afraid to think about life and meaning."
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What a joke that^ is.

[ReligionMustDie]

Parents Charged in Faith Healing Case

The prosecution of an Oregon couple who allegedly tried to heal their dying son with prayer has focused attention on laws that, in some cases, allow parents to treat their children with faith.

Jeffrey Dean Beagley, 50, and Marci Rae Beagley, 46, pleaded not guilty on Friday to criminally negligent homicide charges in the death of their son, 16-year-old Neil Jeffrey Beagley.

Neil died June 17 from complications of a urinary tract blockage, according to medical examiners. The condition, which doctors say is easily treatable, caused kidney and heart failure.

The Beagleys belong to a religious sect known as the Followers of Christ Church, which rejects medical treatment and, instead, relies on prayer. Several relatives who were with Neil Beagley at the time of his death told police that he had refused medical care, according to the Gladstone, Ore., police.

Marci Beagley declined to comment when reached at her Oregon City home, Monday. Attorneys for the Beagleys could not be reached for comment. The district attorney handling the case declined to comment.

The Beagleys are among a handful of parents around the country, including their daughter and son-in-law,who are currently facing criminal charges related to spiritual healing.

Their case has focused attention on some laws that let parents rely on prayer to heal their children. Marci Hamilton, a professor at Cardozo Law School, who writes about religious issues, said the case may test Oregon's religious freedom laws and may prompt other states to re-examine their spiritual healing laws.

"There was a time when we were willing to permit these children to be lost, but there are increasingly more prosecutions and lawsuits," she said. "Children should not be permitted to be the testing ground for their parents' faith or secular views if it's going to result in their death."

More than 40 states make some religious exception in child abuse laws for parents who practice spiritual healing, though the laws vary widely in scope, according to Children's Healthcare is a Legal Duty, a nonprofit that opposes such laws.

Criminal defendants have argued that those exceptions to child abuse laws for spiritual healing should prevent the state from throwing parents in prison when a child dies from lack of medical care.

Dale and Leilani Neumann, a Wisconsin couple whose 11-year-old daughter died from complications of untreated diabetes, argued in recent court papers that reckless homicide charges should be dismissed because they conflict with state laws on child abuse, which allow treatment through prayer.

State supreme courts that have considered the issue have reached differing conclusions. At least one court, in Minnesota, has ruled that manslaughter charges for the death of a child whose meningitis went untreated, needed to be dismissed because the child's parents relied on state child abuse laws that allowed spiritual healing.

Eighteen states have religious defenses to at least some felony crimes against children, according to Children's Healthcare is a Legal Duty. Some states, such as Iowa and Ohio, provide a defense to manslaughter and child endangerment for faith healing. Arkansas makes spiritual healing a defense to capital murder charges....