Why do some homosexuals say God 'made...

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#42 Jan 8, 2014
yon wrote:
Can you back this opinion up with links?
http://www.etymonline.com/inde x.php?term=sodomy

I just got a be polite warning when I tried to post the above link. Sometimes I wonder about the thinking that has gone into this site's software.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#43 Jan 8, 2014
And they broke the link anyways.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php...
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#44 Jan 8, 2014
This doesn't prove that "good x-tians" invented sodomy like it was a conspiracy. The Bible tells it like it is. Many people refuse to admit their guilt. The prisons are full of them. And criminality and lawlessness demand acceptance as normal.. Just compare what was deemed serious behavior problems in high school today and 50 years ago. Armed robbery vs gum chewing. eg So it all goes back to blaming God.
Doctor REALITY

Conway, AR

#45 Jan 8, 2014
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Sweetie, if you want to insult God's creation, that's between you and Him, but you really shouldn't lie like this and expect God to be happy about it.
I'm not your 'sweetie', you sick, perverted homosexual

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#46 Jan 8, 2014
yon wrote:
This doesn't prove that "good x-tians" invented sodomy like it was a conspiracy. The Bible tells it like it is. Many people refuse to admit their guilt. The prisons are full of them. And criminality and lawlessness demand acceptance as normal.. Just compare what was deemed serious behavior problems in high school today and 50 years ago. Armed robbery vs gum chewing. eg So it all goes back to blaming God.
I merely pointed to the word's origin as a Christian concept. When the word crept into common usage and in the law, sodomy covered both same sex and opposite sex acts, other than vaginal sex, with or without consent and often, regardless of marital status. The notion that the sin of Sodom was strictly same sex acts is a fairly modern one.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#47 Jan 8, 2014
Doctor REALITY wrote:
I'm not your 'sweetie', you sick, perverted homosexual
If I get to be your sick, perverted homosexual, you get to be my sweetie. Just be thankful I'm keeping it nice. I could call you some things which would make your calling me a sick, perverted homosexual sound complimentary.
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#48 Jan 9, 2014
yon wrote:
This doesn't prove that "good x-tians" invented sodomy like it was a conspiracy. The Bible tells it like it is. Many people refuse to admit their guilt. The prisons are full of them. And criminality and lawlessness demand acceptance as normal.. Just compare what was deemed serious behavior problems in high school today and 50 years ago. Armed robbery vs gum chewing. eg So it all goes back to blaming God.
The RCC may have coined a word, but the concept is pure biblical that is so gross that Bible writers would not speak of the depravity in specific terms.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#49 Jan 9, 2014
yon wrote:
The RCC may have coined a word, but the concept is pure biblical that is so gross that Bible writers would not speak of the depravity in specific terms.
I'm not sure why you would be responding to yourself here, but to each their own. Have you ever actually read the Bible? The only Sodom story that made the Christian cut, is ended by a death threat by gang rape, which never actually happens. It's cut short when the angels strike the angry, mob of men and boys blind, for their refusal to accept Lot's righteous offer of the sacrifice of his virgin daughters, in exchange for the lives of the strangers he had given refuge to. It's not the only place in the Bible where such a threat appears. The Levite was clear, when an angry mob of men and boys is making that threat, they're looking to kill you, not make you go gay. When Ezekiel lays out the sins of Sodom, nothing sexual among them, only a reference to an unspecified abomination being committed. there are 41 abominations in the OT. http://www.openbible.info/topics/abomination and remember, no sex actually takes place in the story.
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#50 Jan 9, 2014
The perverts of Sodom were not demanding Lot's daughters. You do not know Scripture.

Gen 19:5 "They called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men that came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them."

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#51 Jan 9, 2014
yon wrote:
The perverts of Sodom were not demanding Lot's daughters. You do not know Scripture.
Gen 19:5 "They called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men that came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them."
The sin of Sodom according to the Bible.

3.Ezekiel 16:49
“‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

You are like the Sodomites. Arrogant and unconcerned.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#52 Jan 9, 2014
yon wrote:
The perverts of Sodom were not demanding Lot's daughters. You do not know Scripture.
Gen 19:5 "They called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men that came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them."
I never said they demanded Lot's daughters, I have no idea why you think I did, when I said they had refused Lot's offer to sacrifice the virgin ones to them. Learn to read. I know what the scripture says, I also know that you can't even fake having a clue as to what it means.
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#53 Jan 9, 2014
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>If I get to be your sick, perverted homosexual, you get to be my sweetie. Just be thankful I'm keeping it nice. I could call you some things which would make your calling me a sick, perverted homosexual sound complimentary.
You are a child of SATAN!!

“ reality, what a concept”

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#54 Jan 9, 2014
Doctor REALITY wrote:
You are a child of SATAN!!
You're not a child of the God I read about in the Bible. He doesn't even know you.

“Quite Contrary”

Since: Nov 12

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#55 Jan 9, 2014
andet1987 wrote:
<quoted text>
and are you sure only gays did sodomy at that time ? i believe some straight people also did sodomy at that time. but they just tried to punish gays for being gays.
That was the time of Abram. There wasn't even a Jewish nation in existance yet, and no one was persecuting homosexuals 'at that time'.

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#56 Jan 9, 2014
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not sure why you would be responding to yourself here, but to each their own. Have you ever actually read the Bible? The only Sodom story that made the Christian cut, is ended by a death threat by gang rape, which never actually happens. It's cut short when the angels strike the angry, mob of men and boys blind, for their refusal to accept Lot's righteous offer of the sacrifice of his virgin daughters, in exchange for the lives of the strangers he had given refuge to. It's not the only place in the Bible where such a threat appears. The Levite was clear, when an angry mob of men and boys is making that threat, they're looking to kill you, not make you go gay. When Ezekiel lays out the sins of Sodom, nothing sexual among them, only a reference to an unspecified abomination being committed. there are 41 abominations in the OT. http://www.openbible.info/topics/abomination and remember, no sex actually takes place in the story.
I don't understand why the name Sodom has been used the way it has. When the Abraham spoke with God before the destruction he begged, repeatedly, for the cities to be spared. It says that they were guilty of every depravity and were decadent and spoiled. At least that's how I read it. Even Lot's wife was turned to a pillar of salt because she looked back. Why? Because she didn't want to give up a posh and comfortable life? It was a major cosmopolitan centre and rich from trade.
God made me heterosexual, but does that mean I can't sin? Of course not. I can't give up my inclinations to certain activities either. I can only control myself because I am capable of reason, and not an animal.
The Bible says God created all things, and He allows evil. Our hearts know when we do wrong, and that is very personal to each one of us.
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#57 Jan 9, 2014
Yahweh allows wickedness to an extreme and does not wish to destroy. But when it gets to the point of no return.......

Ezekiel 18:23
"Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked? says the Lord, and not rather that he should turn from his evil way."

Heb 10:31 "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."

“It's time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

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#58 Jan 9, 2014
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>If I get to be your sick, perverted homosexual, you get to be my sweetie. Just be thankful I'm keeping it nice. I could call you some things which would make your calling me a sick, perverted homosexual sound complimentary.
He's another of your b*ches, Rick. Just like our Adolf.

“It's time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

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#59 Jan 9, 2014
yon wrote:
<quoted text>
The RCC may have coined a word, but the concept is pure biblical that is so gross that Bible writers would not speak of the depravity in specific terms.
Anal sex, you mean. Let's be blunt here.

Is it only a depravity when practiced by MSM, or also between a nice straight married couple?

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#60 Jan 10, 2014
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>You are a child of SATAN!!
Judge not, lest ye be judged.

and Satan has no children. He does not love.

“Quite Contrary”

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#61 Jan 10, 2014
yon wrote:
<quoted text>
The RCC may have coined a word, but the concept is pure biblical that is so gross that Bible writers would not speak of the depravity in specific terms.
The RCC did not write the Bible. It was translated, but the main part of it was existant in Judaism for hundreds of years, and while it was edited somewhat, the main message is the same and arguement has mostly been semantics. Do you think for one minute that the church that burned hundreds at the stake, hung and drowned people for thte sake of fairytales would have shied away from promiscuity in any form?
Verily, I saith unto thee - if the church fathers had been so squeamish wouldn't they have out the bits about human sacrifices(child sacrifices to Baal), which Sodom and Gomorrah were also guilty of? What about Ashterah?(a religion based on prostitution of both sexes). How about the Philistine king who was so fat that a sword plunged into his stomach was completely swallowed, or Jezebel being thrown out of her window by her own servants to be smashed on the ground and devoured by dogs? Shouldn't they have removed that bit about Lot's daughters who decided that the world and all its people had been destroyed with Sodom and Gomorrah, and so, got their father drunk so they could have sex with him and bear children, and continue his line?
Please tell me what could be more gross that was left out of the Bible due to fragile sensibilities.

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