Tamil vs Kannada. Which one is the ol...

Since: May 14

Singapore, Singapore

#1363 Aug 30, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Tamil barbarian dumb brains and fat tongues dont have letters/sounds for "shree" and "Bha". U
Tamil barbarians used 'tiru' word for "shree". Shree and tiru means respect words. U fat tongues cant pronounce "shree" .'Shree' means "Tiru" in tribal tamil half tongues.
U replaced "Bha" with 'va/vu' bcoz u dont have 'bha' so u prononced it as va/vu in name "vallavun".
'R' at end of name is a respect letter in tamil so u used 'R' at end of name for respect so u call it as Valluvar(Thiruvalluvar)
Tiruvalluvan is a modified name from Shreevallabham. Infact Thiruvalluvar and Tholkaappiyar are not the names of the people. Those are Tholikavyam and Shreevallabham and anti tamil grammers which was writen during 10th to 15th centrys under choda and pallava courts Respectively.u barbarians translated them into tamil and made the title names of that gramer to author names...
WTH...

You don't have 'zha' sound.. You know how much we should roll the tongue to produce that sound??

Who is the fat tongue here da dubukku..

You are the one with fat tongue who cannot roll the tongue to pronounce 'zha'...
YouGotThePoint

Palakkad, India

#1365 Sep 1, 2014
Neelakaran wrote:
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WTH...
You don't have 'zha' sound.. You know how much we should roll the tongue to produce that sound??
Who is the fat tongue here da dubukku..
You are the one with fat tongue who cannot roll the tongue to pronounce 'zha'...
Truely said, these Kannadigas & Telugus always hide the fact that they are all speaking a rejected form of Tamil reserved only for uncivilised garbage people. Their language is nothing but old form of Tamil (unrefined)mixed with some local dialects, Prakrit & Sanskrit. Even i don't like Thooya Tamil nor I speak local Cheri Tamil.(very similar to Kannada & Telugu) Beauty of Tamil depends on how you speak. So, I prefer a form in between Thooya tamil & Local tamil. There are only four great Indian languages, they are Tamil, Malayalam, Sanskrit & Prakrit
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#1366 Sep 3, 2014
YouGotThePoint wrote:
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Truely said, these Kannadigas & Telugus always hide the fact that they are all speaking a rejected form of Tamil reserved only for uncivilised garbage people. Their language is nothing but old form of Tamil (unrefined)mixed with some local dialects, Prakrit & Sanskrit. Even i don't like Thooya Tamil nor I speak local Cheri Tamil.(very similar to Kannada & Telugu) Beauty of Tamil depends on how you speak. So, I prefer a form in between Thooya tamil & Local tamil. There are only four great Indian languages, they are Tamil, Malayalam, Sanskrit & Prakrit
ha ha mad fool,Cheri tamil is similar to Kannada not to Telugu Bcoz chera words are mix of sinhala and kannada there evolved some tamil words. Cheras are Sinhaleese, Fake idiot ur Tamil is utter fake and tribal version of telugu which formed by influencing the words from sinhala and kannada. U dont have many sounds u barbarian idiots speaking telugu u half tongue barbarians totally pronounced wrong there evolved ur tamil dialect with the influence of sinhala(aryan group acording to wiki) and kannada. I will prove it 100% that tamil is not at all older than kannada, kannada is very older than fake tamil.
raj

Delhi, India

#1367 Sep 5, 2014
anil madiwal wrote:
Kannada sweet language guru
anil avure navu kannadavure guru kannada sweet karantha yaru kelila, question oldest yavdantha.. adhu tamile alva.. navu opkobeku
sukumar

Chennai, India

#1368 Sep 10, 2014
Chennai wrote:
Tamil is World's oldest living barbarian language.
It is majorly referred so because of the cruel nature of Cholas, their act of VIOLENCE, ATROCITIES AND PLUNDER resulted in calling them as barbarians
You Shit You The Barbarian And You The Worst...
Who Said Tamil Is A Barbarian Language...
It Is Very Very Very Old But Not Barbarian...
Meaning :- A member of a people not belonging to one of the great civilizations or a uncultured group or language.
shyam

Chennai, India

#1370 Sep 13, 2014
Thamme Gowda wrote:
Went through a whole thread, Still not a clear verdict about which is old one - Kannada or Tamil?
Please don't fight- we are not looking for who are stronger among two!
Please don't use vulgar words - we are not looking for who can use vulgar words!
The question not about who are civilised and who are not. Come on people we are Indians!
Please don't divert the topics.. Keep it the sheer linguistic concern.
Just because you are born kannadiga or tamilian, you don't necessarily need to take side on your mother tongue. Give disinterested testimony.
Most of the history was written in the view of Europeans. Come on find out what happened in Deccan plateau in between 5000BC to 300AD?
Got any ideas?,

U r welcome and pls share it...

It is very easy to sit, oversee and ask questions on people...

Are u advising or motivating or asking questions?
Thamme Gowda

Bangalore, India

#1371 Sep 13, 2014
shyam wrote:
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Got any ideas?,
U r welcome and pls share it...
It is very easy to sit, oversee and ask questions on people...
Are u advising or motivating or asking questions?
I am trying to motivate people..

Turning the pages of history book, reveals : Kadambas built the first Kannada empire. What does that mean? Kadambas are the first Royal kannada family to build empire at the present Karnataka region. That doesnt say anything about folks who were living at this region.

Cholas are the first (old) Tamil dynasty. It seems like Cholas built stronger empire earlier than kadambas. In the race of royal dynasties Tamil win.

But history only tells about Royal families.. I need to know language of common people. It is also possible that common people speaking different language than what contemporary royal families used to speak. We are just don't know. Let's find out what people if this reagion used to speak in between 5000BC to 300AD we might get the answer.

It is true that Kannada language is heavily influenced by Sanskrit. In order to get influenced, it must be existed at first! There had been other version of kannada language(which must be derived from the same ancestor of tamil ) which then later got influenced by Sanskrit when Sanskrit pandiths started interacting with kannada people or vice versa. Kannada easily allows and digests external entities to it. You can see this in the genes of native Bangaloreans who allowed different people of different languages without a question.

I had even talked with my Tamil friends, there is only a little influence of Sanskrit. Reason being, Sanskrit is from northern side (some say Aryans who emigrated from Iran brought the language). Here geography played a major role. Tamil remained from southern side, had very less interaction compared to Kannada.

P.S.
-I might be wrong, all these I told are the results of connecting the pieces of information I have.

Since: May 14

Singapore, Singapore

#1372 Sep 16, 2014
Good work Thamme Gowda..

Also I think we can see this from another perspective.. Trying to find how the each word evolved can also lead to the truth. Study the etymology, break the complex words into small pieces and work in it.. this may give a bigger picture when put together..

History alone is not enough, some linguistic research is also needed..
kathir

Austell, GA

#1373 Sep 23, 2014
All ancient and beautiful Indian languages will get lost if we argue, fight and waste time in studying antiquity... Right now Kannada is progressive, vibrant and has elements of old and new as much as Tamil.. Further, I like that everyone settled in Karnataka is studying Kannada. and enriching themselves . As a Tamil speaking person learning Kannada, the topic relevant to write about... There are communities in TN and Karnataka that have been historically bilingual that have contributed to both the cultures... Remember that there are Tamils who have mastered Kannada language.. They have always been decorated and adored by people of Karnataka who have welcome everybody...

Arunagirinaathar who gave thiruppugazh in Tamil in 1500s would be termed Kannadiga today..
kathir

Austell, GA

#1374 Sep 23, 2014
Thamme Gowda wrote:
Went through a whole thread, Still not a clear verdict about which is old one - Kannada or Tamil?
Please don't fight- we are not looking for who are stronger among two!
Please don't use vulgar words - we are not looking for who can use vulgar words!
The question not about who are civilised and who are not. Come on people we are Indians!
Please don't divert the topics.. Keep it the sheer linguistic concern.
Just because you are born kannadiga or tamilian, you don't necessarily need to take side on your mother tongue. Give disinterested testimony.
Most of the history was written in the view of Europeans. Come on find out what happened in Deccan plateau in between 5000BC to 300AD?
Well said..But Indians fight over nothing and waste time... Get the best out of invaluable time.. Learn to appreciate, learn both the languages and get the best of both...
kathir

Austell, GA

#1375 Sep 23, 2014
Neelakaran wrote:
Good work Thamme Gowda..
Also I think we can see this from another perspective.. Trying to find how the each word evolved can also lead to the truth. Study the etymology, break the complex words into small pieces and work in it.. this may give a bigger picture when put together..
History alone is not enough, some linguistic research is also needed..
We have a common beautiful past. and shared legacy...

The research is available... People are still illiterate...like the one you see here
shyam

Chennai, India

#1376 Sep 26, 2014
kathir wrote:
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We have a common beautiful past. and shared legacy...
The research is available... People are still illiterate...like the one you see here
Who u r mentioning here as illetrate??
Muhammad Rahman

Hillingdon, UK

#1377 Sep 28, 2014
muniraj wrote:
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joke of the decade... dude first of all u people (tamil) dont have ur own numericals in tamil....but we have our own numericals in kannada..... dont compare ur foolish language with kannada.....
Stop saying it is a foolish language it is rude even though I'm an Arabic person. Just because the don't have numericals in their language that does not mean they foolish. By the way, scientists have found that tamil was created more than 150,000 yaers ago.
Muhammad Rahman

Hillingdon, UK

#1378 Sep 28, 2014
Neelakaran wrote:
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WTH...
You don't have 'zha' sound.. You know how much we should roll the tongue to produce that sound??
Who is the fat tongue here da dubukku..
You are the one with fat tongue who cannot roll the tongue to pronounce 'zha'...
True, good one
Lash

Hillingdon, UK

#1379 Sep 28, 2014
kannadiga wrote:
Kannada old language in the world 2500 years got on history
But tamil has history of 20,000-150,000 years
Sethuraman

Bangalore, India

#1380 Oct 3, 2014
to be frank,tamil is the oldest language,also agree with the fact that tamil is the only language that is least influenced by sanskrit,tamil is rich literature wise as well,but nothing to take away from kannada,it has 8 gnana peeta prashasthi awards,it has got many rare feature like raagale sahithya(not found in any other languages),chandassu,it is logically perfect language than tamil,you can read what u write and write what u read,to conclude both kannada and tamil are rich in their own ways,its foolish to compare these both great languages.

## I am a tamilian who lives in karnataka,personally i have been lucky to study these both languages.
adhi

Chennai, India

#1381 Oct 4, 2014
If tamil is old language, keep it in ur state.. I wonder y tamil people always migrate from ther origin place to other place.. y.. can't u establish ur self in ur place or can't u survive. Don't spoil other states n also kannadigas r sweet cos thy help n communicate in ur own language n help u to understand. Tamil people in karnataka respect the local language or get out of our place if ur so much worried n patriot about ur tamil and tamil nadu. Remember v hav given u freedom to stay. Be aware of it.
shyam

Chennai, India

#1382 Oct 4, 2014
adhi wrote:
If tamil is old language, keep it in ur state.. I wonder y tamil people always migrate from ther origin place to other place.. y.. can't u establish ur self in ur place or can't u survive. Don't spoil other states n also kannadigas r sweet cos thy help n communicate in ur own language n help u to understand. Tamil people in karnataka respect the local language or get out of our place if ur so much worried n patriot about ur tamil and tamil nadu. Remember v hav given u freedom to stay. Be aware of it.
Oh I see !!!!

Wat are u trying to say???

Whole Tamilnadu is state of spoilers??

Wat u mean migrate, don't people in ur state do that never or did??

R u living deep inside a forest of Karnataka!!!

U sound uncommon, u must get out of ur place and start exploring u will know !!
shyam

Chennai, India

#1383 Oct 4, 2014
adhi wrote:
If tamil is old language, keep it in ur state.. I wonder y tamil people always migrate from ther origin place to other place.. y.. can't u establish ur self in ur place or can't u survive. Don't spoil other states n also kannadigas r sweet cos thy help n communicate in ur own language n help u to understand. Tamil people in karnataka respect the local language or get out of our place if ur so much worried n patriot about ur tamil and tamil nadu. Remember v hav given u freedom to stay. Be aware of it.
""""" Given freedom to stay??
Be aware??? """"

Wat the hell is dis???

U ain't created ur land u r just like everybody, its child respect her!!!

Idiot...:D

Talk with sense...
santhosh

Bangalore, India

#1384 Oct 6, 2014
hats off to all kannadigas. namma bhasheyashtu spashta mattu sundara baraha bere yava bhasheyallu illa. sirigannadam gelge sirigannadam baalge.

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