Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#961 Aug 19, 2014
Neelakaran wrote:
I am not talking about the race or language here..
It is just basic Humanity to respect other set of people..
You don't have the basic Humanity itself!!
You are poor in Telugu too, that is why you told that ka, kha, etc is consonant and 33 in number and again you told its vowel diacritics and 16 in number.. Go learn Telugu first..
also you are poor in SQ - Spiritual Quotient. Have you been with high SQ you would not have scolded other people like this.. That is why I didn't talk bad about others till now..
also you are poor in IQ - Intelligent Quotient. Have you been high in IQ you would have understood my explanations... That is why I passed the test conducted by NUS which is in world ranking 21 and came here for studies..
You are so so so so waste..
Get lost...
Its waste of time to explain things to you..
yes, ka,kha,ga,gha to ksha are consonants. We have vowel diacritics in telugu if we write it with ka, it will mix with vowels and forms different sounds like Ex; ka,kaa,ki,kee,ku,kuu,kru,kroo, ke,kae,kii,ko,kou,kau,kam,kaha . If those vowel diacritics mix with ga, it will forms as ga,gaa,gi,gee,gu,goo,gru,groo, ge,gae,gii,go,gou,gau,gam,gaha . Suppose if we write a name padhamu=foot. We take consonant 'Pa' and 'dha', and 'ma'. So these r the pure consonants in telugu. Every consonant have 'A' sound. So to write 'mu' we attach 'u' vowel diacritic to ma. Then it will transform into Mu. Padhamu. Perfect. Next i will tell about conjuctives.
shyam

Chennai, India

#962 Aug 19, 2014
First tell me d sound of 'tha' u say that Tamil is missing with an example, a English word!
shyam

Chennai, India

#964 Aug 19, 2014
Now I understand ur pbm, u r misjudging many sounds of Tamil letters explained through English letters..
So u must clarify if u have doubt and must not blindly say Tamil missing it ok
shyam

Chennai, India

#965 Aug 19, 2014
The 'tha' letter in Tamil sound is like
As is in 'Thought'---
shyam

Chennai, India

#967 Aug 19, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text>
yes, ka,kha,ga,gha to ksha are consonants. We have vowel diacritics in telugu if we write it with ka, it will mix with vowels and forms different sounds like Ex; ka,kaa,ki,kee,ku,kuu,kru,kroo, ke,kae,kii,ko,kou,kau,kam,kaha . If those vowel diacritics mix with ga, it will forms as ga,gaa,gi,gee,gu,goo,gru,groo, ge,gae,gii,go,gou,gau,gam,gaha . Suppose if we write a name padhamu=foot. We take consonant 'Pa' and 'dha', and 'ma'. So these r the pure consonants in telugu. Every consonant have 'A' sound. So to write 'mu' we attach 'u' vowel diacritic to ma. Then it will transform into Mu. Padhamu. Perfect. Next i will tell about conjuctives.
Can u pls explain clearly transforming 'ma' as 'mu'

Wat u mean by 'u' vowel diacritic???

Can u pls clarify wat is a vowel diacritic ??

Cuz u said if 'ka' joins with ur vowel gives vowel diacritic so how comes a 'u' vowel diacritic is my doubt
shyam

Chennai, India

#968 Aug 19, 2014
Mr.Naveen I am getting u , wait now I understand...
Seems u started learning Telugu, I can sense it in ur recent replies,

Keep it up, wait till 11 I have some doubts in vowel diacritics, u have to clarify
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#970 Aug 19, 2014
So tamil dont have the above mentioned letters.

Since: May 14

Singapore, Singapore

#971 Aug 19, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text>
yes, ka,kha,ga,gha to ksha are consonants. We have vowel diacritics in telugu if we write it with ka, it will mix with vowels and forms different sounds like Ex; ka,kaa,ki,kee,ku,kuu,kru,kroo, ke,kae,kii,ko,kou,kau,kam,kaha . If those vowel diacritics mix with ga, it will forms as ga,gaa,gi,gee,gu,goo,gru,groo, ge,gae,gii,go,gou,gau,gam,gaha . Suppose if we write a name padhamu=foot. We take consonant 'Pa' and 'dha', and 'ma'. So these r the pure consonants in telugu. Every consonant have 'A' sound. So to write 'mu' we attach 'u' vowel diacritic to ma. Then it will transform into Mu. Padhamu. Perfect. Next i will tell about conjuctives.
LOL!!!

Hey Shyam.... Naveen is a controversial guy!!
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#972 Aug 19, 2014
Neelakaran wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL!!!
Hey Shyam.... Naveen is a controversial guy!!
u said tamil is perfect then
show the letters for kha,ga,,gha,cha,jha,ta(2nd ta),da,dha,tha,dha,dha(2nd dha),pha,ba,bha, recently u tamils have borrowed sha,shha,sa,ha,ksha from grantha what did u say about that?
shyam

Chennai, India

#973 Aug 19, 2014
Neelakaran yea he is... But I hope he taken some effort to learn Telugu,
By the way check watsapp...

Mr.Naveen wait, u still don't understood Tamil, as I said there is no alphabet for asphirated sounds of particular sound to which v have alphabet!!!
Clear???
Which means we have the alphabet for the sound ka sa ta pa but not for its asphirated sounds like gha sha dha and bha...

Instead we use a single letter 'ayutham' to asphire it
shyam

Chennai, India

#974 Aug 19, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
So tamil dont have the above mentioned letters.
No Mr... Unless u clarify my question,

Wat according to u d sound 'tha'
Gimme an example?
shyam

Chennai, India

#976 Aug 19, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
So tamil dont have the above mentioned letters.
So the other language mentioned in d chart dont have that the last 3 sounds as well its letter that Tamil does, Hm??
shyam

Chennai, India

#977 Aug 19, 2014
Mr.Naveen...

For ur statement based on ...
Konjam(Tamil)
Koncham(Telugu)...

U said because we don't cha so we used ja....

U r totally wrong Mr...

The sound is not 'ja' it is actually 'nja' as in syringe....

So it is actually ko+nja+m = konjam(I mentioning only sound here)

And not u as per ur misunderstanding...

So u must say we pronounce konjam(in Tamil) as koncham ...

Dats it.. Dnt add ur own stories along with it ok
shyam

Chennai, India

#978 Aug 19, 2014
Some more words for u with sound 'inj' as in syringe...

"Injee"- Ginger a best eg as it posses the same sound..
'Panju'- cotton
'Manjal'- yellow...

So Naveen Tamil have a separate consonant for d sound 'inj' as in syringe (only sound ok) dont misinterpret with letters i used to mention it.. Think only sound,

So In konjam it have d consonant 'inj' and not 'ja' understand???
shyam

Chennai, India

#979 Aug 19, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> u said tamil is perfect then
show the letters for kha,ga,,gha,cha,jha,ta(2nd ta),da,dha,tha,dha,dha(2nd dha),pha,ba,bha, recently u tamils have borrowed sha,shha,sa,ha,ksha from grantha what did u say about that?
Recently means when...

Do u have any idea how those letter came into Tamil...

We didnt borrowed it..

It is not among the 247 Tamil letters do u know dat?

It is exclusive and it was invented and used only by non Tamil initially...
shyam

Delhi, India

#980 Aug 19, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> u said tamil is perfect then
show the letters for kha,ga,,gha,cha,jha,ta(2nd ta),da,dha,tha,dha,dha(2nd dha),pha,ba,bha, recently u tamils have borrowed sha,shha,sa,ha,ksha from grantha what did u say about that?
See as English don't have 'zha' sound we use here
z h a three alphabets...

Same logic but instead of using multiple alphabets they given a single alphabet to represent the sound that can be produced by 2 or 3 alphabets...

As I said, Tamil just do not have alphabets for asphirated sounds, it doesn't mean it lacks those sounds...

Don't again misunderstand this,
I hope this is wat might have happened long back when they invented those letters in Tamil.. They might have not understood Tamil grammar on sound transformation ...
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#981 Aug 19, 2014
Do tamil have nja letter.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#982 Aug 19, 2014
No?
shyam

Delhi, India

#983 Aug 19, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Do tamil have nja letter.
Hey again !!! Didnt i said i mentioned only sound man...

U thinking
Kon+ja+m no it is not right
It is ko+nja+m again only sound..

Nja sound will be produced when 'inj'and 'sa' are adjacent in a word...

U r now into a difficult consonant of Tamil I.e 'inj' as in syringe its transformation of sound when it combine with vowel is different its a very difficult part for u to understand...

Halo u wat is with u and letter...

Matter here is sound,,

N in previous page I asked u interpret with a suitable example about sounds of ta and ta(with a dot below) and tha, according to ur knowledge.
Where is d answer?
shyam

Delhi, India

#984 Aug 19, 2014
Mr.Naveen one more doubt,
I want u to explain dis...

U said 'ka' consonant combines with vowel do give vowel diacritic...

Ok,
My doubt is

In wat way d sound of 'ka'(consonant) changes when it combines with very first vowel 'a' and wat will be its vowel diacritic...

Is it, Ka+a=kaa??? Or Ka+a=ka???( In only letter form)

I Dont know about how its sounds transforms too,
Does it sound the same, I.e consonant 'ka' and its first vowel diacritic???

Will both sound same or different,
Pls explain...

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