Tamil vs Kannada. Which one is the ol...
shyam

Suri, India

#968 Aug 19, 2014
Mr.Naveen I am getting u , wait now I understand...
Seems u started learning Telugu, I can sense it in ur recent replies,

Keep it up, wait till 11 I have some doubts in vowel diacritics, u have to clarify
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#970 Aug 19, 2014
So tamil dont have the above mentioned letters.

Since: May 14

Singapore, Singapore

#971 Aug 19, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text>
yes, ka,kha,ga,gha to ksha are consonants. We have vowel diacritics in telugu if we write it with ka, it will mix with vowels and forms different sounds like Ex; ka,kaa,ki,kee,ku,kuu,kru,kroo, ke,kae,kii,ko,kou,kau,kam,kaha . If those vowel diacritics mix with ga, it will forms as ga,gaa,gi,gee,gu,goo,gru,groo, ge,gae,gii,go,gou,gau,gam,gaha . Suppose if we write a name padhamu=foot. We take consonant 'Pa' and 'dha', and 'ma'. So these r the pure consonants in telugu. Every consonant have 'A' sound. So to write 'mu' we attach 'u' vowel diacritic to ma. Then it will transform into Mu. Padhamu. Perfect. Next i will tell about conjuctives.
LOL!!!

Hey Shyam.... Naveen is a controversial guy!!
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#972 Aug 19, 2014
Neelakaran wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL!!!
Hey Shyam.... Naveen is a controversial guy!!
u said tamil is perfect then
show the letters for kha,ga,,gha,cha,jha,ta(2nd ta),da,dha,tha,dha,dha(2nd dha),pha,ba,bha, recently u tamils have borrowed sha,shha,sa,ha,ksha from grantha what did u say about that?
shyam

Suri, India

#973 Aug 19, 2014
Neelakaran yea he is... But I hope he taken some effort to learn Telugu,
By the way check watsapp...

Mr.Naveen wait, u still don't understood Tamil, as I said there is no alphabet for asphirated sounds of particular sound to which v have alphabet!!!
Clear???
Which means we have the alphabet for the sound ka sa ta pa but not for its asphirated sounds like gha sha dha and bha...

Instead we use a single letter 'ayutham' to asphire it
shyam

Suri, India

#974 Aug 19, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
So tamil dont have the above mentioned letters.
No Mr... Unless u clarify my question,

Wat according to u d sound 'tha'
Gimme an example?
shyam

Suri, India

#976 Aug 19, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
So tamil dont have the above mentioned letters.
So the other language mentioned in d chart dont have that the last 3 sounds as well its letter that Tamil does, Hm??
shyam

Suri, India

#977 Aug 19, 2014
Mr.Naveen...

For ur statement based on ...
Konjam(Tamil)
Koncham(Telugu)...

U said because we don't cha so we used ja....

U r totally wrong Mr...

The sound is not 'ja' it is actually 'nja' as in syringe....

So it is actually ko+nja+m = konjam(I mentioning only sound here)

And not u as per ur misunderstanding...

So u must say we pronounce konjam(in Tamil) as koncham ...

Dats it.. Dnt add ur own stories along with it ok
shyam

Suri, India

#978 Aug 19, 2014
Some more words for u with sound 'inj' as in syringe...

"Injee"- Ginger a best eg as it posses the same sound..
'Panju'- cotton
'Manjal'- yellow...

So Naveen Tamil have a separate consonant for d sound 'inj' as in syringe (only sound ok) dont misinterpret with letters i used to mention it.. Think only sound,

So In konjam it have d consonant 'inj' and not 'ja' understand???
shyam

Suri, India

#979 Aug 19, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> u said tamil is perfect then
show the letters for kha,ga,,gha,cha,jha,ta(2nd ta),da,dha,tha,dha,dha(2nd dha),pha,ba,bha, recently u tamils have borrowed sha,shha,sa,ha,ksha from grantha what did u say about that?
Recently means when...

Do u have any idea how those letter came into Tamil...

We didnt borrowed it..

It is not among the 247 Tamil letters do u know dat?

It is exclusive and it was invented and used only by non Tamil initially...
shyam

Chennai, India

#980 Aug 19, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> u said tamil is perfect then
show the letters for kha,ga,,gha,cha,jha,ta(2nd ta),da,dha,tha,dha,dha(2nd dha),pha,ba,bha, recently u tamils have borrowed sha,shha,sa,ha,ksha from grantha what did u say about that?
See as English don't have 'zha' sound we use here
z h a three alphabets...

Same logic but instead of using multiple alphabets they given a single alphabet to represent the sound that can be produced by 2 or 3 alphabets...

As I said, Tamil just do not have alphabets for asphirated sounds, it doesn't mean it lacks those sounds...

Don't again misunderstand this,
I hope this is wat might have happened long back when they invented those letters in Tamil.. They might have not understood Tamil grammar on sound transformation ...
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#981 Aug 19, 2014
Do tamil have nja letter.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#982 Aug 19, 2014
No?
shyam

Chennai, India

#983 Aug 19, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Do tamil have nja letter.
Hey again !!! Didnt i said i mentioned only sound man...

U thinking
Kon+ja+m no it is not right
It is ko+nja+m again only sound..

Nja sound will be produced when 'inj'and 'sa' are adjacent in a word...

U r now into a difficult consonant of Tamil I.e 'inj' as in syringe its transformation of sound when it combine with vowel is different its a very difficult part for u to understand...

Halo u wat is with u and letter...

Matter here is sound,,

N in previous page I asked u interpret with a suitable example about sounds of ta and ta(with a dot below) and tha, according to ur knowledge.
Where is d answer?
shyam

Chennai, India

#984 Aug 19, 2014
Mr.Naveen one more doubt,
I want u to explain dis...

U said 'ka' consonant combines with vowel do give vowel diacritic...

Ok,
My doubt is

In wat way d sound of 'ka'(consonant) changes when it combines with very first vowel 'a' and wat will be its vowel diacritic...

Is it, Ka+a=kaa??? Or Ka+a=ka???( In only letter form)

I Dont know about how its sounds transforms too,
Does it sound the same, I.e consonant 'ka' and its first vowel diacritic???

Will both sound same or different,
Pls explain...
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#985 Aug 19, 2014
i didn't said kon+ja+m, u said nja will produce for sa. So what do u call it konsam or konjam? And again u said nja as in syringe. How do u write syringe with nja if u write it, it will pronounce as syranja.
shyam

Chennai, India

#986 Aug 19, 2014
Let's talk about 'inj' consonant later, it is very difficult...

First clear my doubts on the previous page and the recent question on Vowel diacritic sound transformation
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#987 Aug 19, 2014
I will tell later. First i want to know about nja and its words and pronounciations.
shyam

Chennai, India

#988 Aug 19, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
i didn't said kon+ja+m, u said nja will produce for sa. So what do u call it konsam or konjam? And again u said nja as in syringe. How do u write syringe with nja if u write it, it will pronounce as syranja.
Hey man... Wat are u,
I used d word syringe to make u understand d sound of 'inj'

Hey look, I'll clear see konjam Tamil word have 4 letters,

Ko - first letters sounds as in 'coat'
Inj - 2nd letter sounds as in 'syringe'
Sa - 3rd letter sounds as in 'sir'
M- 4th letter sounds as in 'gym'

Ok but the above sounds as said when they stay individual...

Now inj+sa=nja
This is wat d transformation of sound as I said in my previous comment,,,

Hey I told 'inj' is very difficult... I ll explain it later, dat how is
Inj+sa=nja

First where is my answers???
Hey I am not gonna explain unless if u answer those??

Its ur turn come on, if y dnt answer then talk alone, but remember if u flood same stories u know my reaction for dat,,, enough post something new and useful so that v can gain some knowledge
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#989 Aug 19, 2014
First tell do u have ja or j letter in tamil? Do u have nja in tamil? Show how do u write Nja in tamil?

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