Tamil vs Kannada. Which one is the ol...
shyam

Ashburn, VA

#672 Aug 15, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Telugu speakers in all India states without including 42% of telugu origins in Tamilnadu= one crore twenty lakhs three thousand three hundred and twenty six( 12003326 ). Tamil population in India states= fifty five lakhs seventeen thousand four hundred and six( 5517406). http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_Indi...
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_Indi...

kabodhi... Tamil people population in the whole world is 77million ra mental....
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#673 Aug 15, 2014
Acording to british, Dravidians means south indians. but Dravida means not a race its a 7th ce word used to refer the south india. Puranas writen during 3rd to 10th ce. Dravida means area surrounded by water at 3 sides called Trivida, Travida, dravida. Trivida was first used by Aadi shankaracharya. later the people who lived here were called as Dravidas. But in this Dravidas( south indians) many tamils r not native indians their dna matched with aborigines and africans while telugu and kannada people share the same dna with other indians. Language group is same but people are not same.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#674 Aug 15, 2014
shyam wrote:
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_Indi...
kabodhi... Tamil people population in the whole world is 77million ra mental....
abey blind idiot, go read it again i mentioned about the telugu and tamil population in Indian states. Telugu population around the world is above 90 million (with out including 42% of telugu origins in Tamilnadu) shameless barbarian gazzi kukka.

Since: May 14

Singapore, Singapore

#675 Aug 15, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
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abey blind idiot, go read it again i mentioned about the telugu and tamil population in Indian states. Telugu population around the world is above 90 million (with out including 42% of telugu origins in Tamilnadu) shameless barbarian gazzi kukka.
Go see the Sanskrit vs. Tamil thread.. Something awaits you...

BTW evwryone, he is also spamming the other page for very long time.. The thread is between Sanskrit and Tamil but he talks only about Telugu there..
bsr

Chennai, India

#676 Aug 15, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Even Ilayaraja and subrahmanya bharathi are of telugu origins. Ilaya raja father name is rasayya. This is a pure telugu origin name. Subrahmanya bharathi was called as subbayya. Names such as rasayya,ellayya, mallayya,subbayya,rajanna,venk anna,pullayya etc.etc.. Still have these names for thousands of telugu people in Andhrapradesh. Can any one show these type of names from tamil people. Not only them many famous people in tamilnadu r origins of telugu.Many people converted to tamil bcoz of medium of education in schools of Tamilnadu. These fools not allow other people to study in their own mother tongue. Tamils r freaking idiots morons and language fanatics. Fakers ugly people of this entire world. Selfish people. Entire world know about this day dreamers and fakers..........
Why dont you say that tholkaappiyam and thirukkural were also in telugu written by telugu poet 'thiruvalluvaru'. Yes go on adding U to all Tamil literary work and claim it to be from telugu. crack. These nuts picturise themselves as great scholors and claim the British archeologists and language experts as fools. first answer my previous questions you haters.
Naveen kumar

San Mateo, CA

#678 Aug 15, 2014
bsr wrote:
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Why dont you say that tholkaappiyam and thirukkural were also in telugu written by telugu poet 'thiruvalluvaru'. Yes go on adding U to all Tamil literary work and claim it to be from telugu. crack. These nuts picturise themselves as great scholors and claim the British archeologists and language experts as fools. first answer my previous questions you haters.
i said they r telugu origins not telugu speaking people. Tamil was a tribal version of telugu but in tamil dialect u cant pronounce all words thats why u lost all pronounciations from telugu. Tamil script was designed for ur dialect but language was tribal version of telugu. Tamil Script designed from pallava script. Grantha born from pallava telugu script. Yes british research not based from literatures or archeology. Those fake history datings given by british. Archeologists pointed out the megalithic period of tamilnadu bi B.C.E.
karan

Bandar Seri Begawan, Brunei Darussalam

#679 Aug 15, 2014
Kannada is the oldest as per records.........
Mathish

Bangalore, India

#681 Aug 16, 2014
Hi praveen,

Can you post the proof of it. If you have..
So that other people can judge it.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#682 Aug 16, 2014
Everyone should know the cunningness of barbarian Tamil looters here,, In the Wiki of Telugu language According to the Russian linguist Andronov Telugu was split from Proto dravidian languages between 1500-1000 B.C.E.[11][12].This was the statement i was read b4 some months. Recently i have seen a new line added behind that statement by tamil looters to steal the telugu history. What they added is; It originates from Tamil. The proto dravidian info &Tamil wiki not said like that then who added that? Tamil looters, to mislead the people. The Telugu wiki saying it split from central dravidians and independent.The Tamil wiki saying Tamil was derived from south dravidians(south version was tribal version of central telugu)(Tamil-Kannada)-(Tamil- kodagu)-(Tamil-malayalam)-Tami l. Is there telugu in that group? click on[12] in telugu wiki history statement Also read tamil language wiki. Or read below links.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telugu_language
https://lists.hcs.harvard.edu/mailman/listinf...
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#684 Aug 16, 2014
Tamil people copied everything from andhrapradesh regions of (telangana+coastal parts of AP+rayalaseema).Even ancient folk instruments like "dappu" and other arts copied from telangana regions. Tamil people very proud of "Tappu or parai" again it was copied from Telugus.. they call dappu as tappu bcoz they dont have da letter in tamil. First Ancient South Indian Temple Architectures builted by Telugu kings pallavas. http://www.discoveredindia.com/andhra-pradesh...
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#687 Aug 16, 2014
Tamilnadu was formed with more than 42% of Telugu origins. Some of the famous telugu legends from Tamilnadu are; pallavas,chodas(medieval cholas),nayaks,bodhi dharma,kambar,tyagaraja,shyama sastri,sarvepalli radha krishna, anna, vaigo,karunanidhi,,,etc... And many famous people politicians,industrialists in Tamilnadu are majorly from Telugu origin. Tamilnadu has some fame bcoz of Telugu origins. Still tamils r ruling by anti tamil politicians..........
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#688 Aug 16, 2014
Tamil dont have 12 vowel diacritics kha,ga,gha,cha,jha,da,dha,tha, ba,bha,sha,ha,. And also they dont have consonants for these 12 vowel diacritics 12x17=204 alphabets are lacking like kha,khaa,khi,khee,khu,khoo,khr u,khroo,khe,khae,khi,kho,kho,k hou,kham,khaha.ga,gaa,gi,gee,g u,goo,gru,groo,ge,gae,gi,go,go ,gou,gam,gaha, same for other 10 vowels. They dont have conjuct consonants like kkha,gga,ggha,ccha,jjha,dda,dd ha,ttha,bba,bbha,ssha,hha 12x32 vowels=384 letters are absent for ex;tkha,dgha,rmha,rbha,ndha,nd hi,dhra,shtha,etc..etc.... Another small examples; how indians write chakram=cha+kra+m. But tamils write as (se+kka+ra+i)=sekkarai) Another word we write dharmayuddham=dha+rma+yu+ddha+ m but in tamil they write it as taramayuttam they dont have dha,rma,ddha, so they write as ta+ra+ma+yu+tta+m. See how ugly tamils r writing and pronouncing in tamil. By lacking hundreds of alphabets tamils cant write or pronounce lakhs of words. Even they dont have other 4 letters tza,dza,sunna and arasunna....
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#689 Aug 16, 2014
Tamil dont have any kind of script it was pallavas given script to tamils at late 6th century A.D.s. Even recently they borrowed somemore alphabets from pallava telugu script. The language Tamil was a oral language and a tribal version of telugu. Dialect taken from telugu and script borrowed from pallava grantha. Sangam grammer writen during 10th to 15th century a.d. Thiruvalluvar and all the sangham writers are anti tamils worked under (choda/chola-telugu)/sozha(tam il) they dont have cho and da to pronounce choda so they replaced cho and da with so and zha.And that poets lived during 11th to 15th centuries. Its pallavas and chodas engraved inscriptions later 8th centry a.d. in srilanka,thailand, they migrated and ruled those parts. Grantha used by tamils for inscriptions and those r other versions of telugu script and language...
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#690 Aug 16, 2014
Tamil doesn't have many letters like kha,ga,gha,cha,jha,da,dha,tha, pha,ba,bha,sha,ha,ksha in tamil. Letters present in tamil; ka,ca,ja,ta,na,pa,ma,ya,ra,la, va,sa.It copied many sanskrit and telugu words to form a language called Tamil. For ex;koncham-koncham(telugu)=lit tle bit, little bit. Konjam-konjam(tamil) they use ja insted of cha bcoz tamil dont have cha.mukh(sanskrit)mukham(telug u)mukam(tamil) they used ka bcoz they dnt have kha. Gnan(sanskrit)Gnanam(telugu)jn anam(tamil) they dont have ga so they used j there. Santhosh(sanskrit happy) santhosham(telugu) santosam(tamil) they dont have tha and sha here. And Like that tamils modified and altered many telugu and sanskrit words and replace with the tamil letters.These r just examples u find many sanskrit and telugu words in Tamil but altered and modified....
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#691 Aug 16, 2014
Tamil was a tribal version of telugu. Which we gave for them but that african tamils didn't constructed their grammer perfectly pronounced all words wrong. This african barbarian tamils shared our pride by speaking tribal version of telugu. 42% of people in tamilnadu r telugu origins remaining people are african tamils,sinhaleese etc.......
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#692 Aug 16, 2014
I know very well about tamil alphabets but this proof is for people who dont know about fake tamil. tamil dont have kha,ga,gha,cha,jha,tha,da,dha, pha,ba,bha,sha,ha,ksha etc... http://www.mayyam.com/talk/viewlite.php...
shyam

Ashburn, VA

#694 Aug 16, 2014
Readers... 
I'm listing down the statements of Mr.Naveen kumar.. 

1.Telugu's originated in IVC 
2.Telugu gave birth to all Indian language, 
- but often he get confusion is does Sanskrit came from Telugu or Telugu came from Sanskrit, anyway it is not important to him 
3.chronology of Tamil language is Telugu and Sanskrit together gave birth to sinhala then sinhala gave birth to Tamil and Malayalam in same time. 
4.All Tamil scholars who wrote Sangam grammars and literatures are non Tamils and north Indians 
5. All the kings and rulers of Tamil nadu are north Indians including 3 crowned kings. 
6. And all those kings and rulers ruled only slaves and barbarians(Tamils). 
7.All Sangam grammar including Thirukkural and Tholkappiyam were wrote in 1000-1500 AD by non Tamil scholars to praise slaves ruling kings and emperors. 
8.All temples in Tamilnadu were built by Pallavas who are Telugu's. 
- historians don't waste ur time in knowing about origins of Pallavas come to Mr.Naveen and he will full details. 
9.Tamil copied everything from Telugu's with single musical instrument called Dappu 
10.Pallava gave birth to Tamil script. 
11.Telugu lived in Andhra went to north west India developed IVC and created Telugu language. 
12.Telugu came back from IVC to south and found there black barbarians speaking half language (Tamil) and who were ruled by the king Chera with himself talking half language and felt mercy and developed Half language (ancient Tamil) to full language (present Tamil). 
13. There is a 17ft dead corpse of Ravana found in Srilanka. 
14. All these were said to him by Jain historian. 
15. Chola and Pandya are north Indian and chera is a Sinhalese. 
16. Agathiyar, Tholkaapiyar, Thiruvalluvar is a Telugu came from north India into Tamilnadu with 1000 of scholars along with them and wrote all great things in Tamil and unfortunately forgot to wrote it down in Telugu. 
17.All datings about sangam grammar in Wikipedia is wrong 
18. All in all Tamil from the ancient time to till now are slaves, in fact earlier kingdoms ( all came from Telugu according to Mr.Naveen) were established to rule a mass wide land with useless slaves and Barbarians (Tamils)... 
19.Tamils belong to Rakshasan race discovered by Naveen

if u have any doubts band clarifications on the above statements of Mr.Naveen kumar u can ask him and he is very open minded to explain people about real history and real facts... 

this is my tribute for his great work on south Indian history...
shyam

Ashburn, VA

#695 Aug 16, 2014
Readers,
I'm posting some new statements of Mr.Naveen about Tamil language, so far I posted his statements on Tamil people and their history, 
now language part..

1.Tholkaapiyar and Thiruvalluvar were dull witted students always gets knock on their heads from their guru Mr.Naveen, who forgot to show their gratitude by forgetting to include his aspirated alphabets of diacritics, conjunctive consonants in their literature and the words formed by it, they owe him a apology..

2.Tamil is a half language, Mr.Naveen only in dis whole world know wat is a full language and he have some criterias which was taught by him to phonologists, historians and scholars to determine language fullness.

3. Classical Tamil and Grammar is ugly because it is incomplete missing many hundreds of Alphabets, lakhs of words and pronunciations.. Thiruvalluvar and Tholkaapiyar were utter dumb students of Mr.Naveen..

UNESCO pls declare Tamil is not classical language because u r all utter fools go learn about language to Mr.Naveen guru of Thiruvalluvar and Tholkaapiyar

4. Tamil is a half language because it have distinct vowels and consonant sounds and combined distinct compound sounds and one Aitham sound and each have foolishly distinct 247 alphabets in total, it have no Alphabets for asphirated altered sounds of those consonants and also conjunctive consonants.

all in all if u remove Telugu Sanskrit Sinhala from Tamil there is no language called Tamil, he have strong proof for this statement which is top secret and he will not disclose it to anyone in dis world....

My tribute will continue,,,
Thanks
shyam

Ashburn, VA

#696 Aug 16, 2014
Readers... 
I'm listing down the statements of Mr.Naveen kumar.. 

1.Telugu's originated in IVC 
2.Telugu gave birth to all Indian language, 
- but often he get confusion is does Sanskrit came from Telugu or Telugu came from Sanskrit, anyway it is not important to him 
3.chronology of Tamil language is Telugu and Sanskrit together gave birth to sinhala then sinhala gave birth to Tamil and Malayalam in same time. 
4.All Tamil scholars who wrote Sangam grammars and literatures are non Tamils and north Indians 
5. All the kings and rulers of Tamil nadu are north Indians including 3 crowned kings. 
6. And all those kings and rulers ruled only slaves and barbarians(Tamils). 
7.All Sangam grammar including Thirukkural and Tholkappiyam were wrote in 1000-1500 AD by non Tamil scholars to praise slaves ruling kings and emperors. 
8.All temples in Tamilnadu were built by Pallavas who are Telugu's. 
- historians don't waste ur time in knowing about origins of Pallavas come to Mr.Naveen and he will full details. 
9.Tamil copied everything from Telugu's with single musical instrument called Dappu 
10.Pallava gave birth to Tamil script. 
11.Telugu lived in Andhra went to north west India developed IVC and created Telugu language. 
12.Telugu came back from IVC to south and found there black barbarians speaking half language (Tamil) and who were ruled by the king Chera with himself talking half language and felt mercy and developed Half language (ancient Tamil) to full language (present Tamil). 
13. There is a 17ft dead corpse of Ravana found in Srilanka. 
14. All these were said to him by Jain historian. 
15. Chola and Pandya are north Indian and chera is a Sinhalese. 
16. Agathiyar is a Telugu came from north India into Tamilnadu with 1000 of scholars along with him and wrote all great things in Tamil and forgot bro wrote it down in Telugu. 
17.All datings about sangam grammar in Wikipedia is wrong 
18. All in all Tamil from the ancient time to till now are slaves, in fact earlier kingdoms ( all came from Telugu according to Mr.Naveen) were established to rule a mass wide land with useless slaves and Barbarians (Tamils)... 

if u have any doubts band clarifications on the above statements of Mr.Naveen kumar u can ask him and he is very open minded to explain people about real history and real facts... 

this is my tribute for his great work on south Indian history...
Vinod

San Mateo, CA

#697 Aug 16, 2014
Thamizh words are found in malay language..
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Malay_...

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