Ragu Bangalore

Bangalore, India

#380 Apr 11, 2014
Tamil is undersell languages
CIVAN

Sharjah, UAE

#381 Apr 11, 2014
R NAGARAJ wrote:
hello tamil brother please understand properly that kannada is equally older language like tamil and most potential language kannada is the first language in india which got its script in 4th century whereas tamil got its script in 10th century and today also kannada ruling its supremacy in literature received 8 jnanapeetha award where as tamil as got only two. this shows difference between the kannada and tamil
Cool..........

FYI & A

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil-Brahmi

Tamil is the Oldest Indian Language . Proof given link go & study.

1.The oldest dated Tamil Brahmi inscription in the world has been found in Palani in Southern India scientifically dated to 540 BCE - the oldest known Brahmi inscriptions on the Indian sub-continent.

Tamil brahmi script Southern India scientifically dated to 540 BCE . India oldest script. &

2. Sanskrit No native Script.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhattiprolu_scri ...

3. Bhattiprolu (PRAKRIT )script is not a TELUGU Script .

Bhattiprolu script- The inscriptions date to before 100 BCE, putting them among the earliest evidence of Brahmi writing in South India.There are a total of nine inscriptions, all dated to the 2nd century BCE or possibly earlier (a tenth inscription is in a script much closer to standard Brahmi), written in Prakrit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_language

The evidence for pre-Ashokan dispersal comes from Sri Lanka and Tamil Nadu. The earliest attested Brahmi inscriptions in South Asia are found in the citadel of Anuradhapura in Sri Lanka and are dated to the 4th century BCE. According to Allchin et al., Brahmi developed before the southern spread of Ashokan missionary activities and spread across South Asia due to trade networks.There have been few inscriptions found in Tamil Nadu that have been tentatively dated to 5th century BCE in Porunthal.

Tamil is one of the longest surviving classical languages in the world.

It has been described as "the only language of contemporary India which is recognizably continuous with a classical past and having one of the richest literatures in the world.Tamil literature has existed for over 3000 years.The earliest epigraphic records found on rock edicts and hero stones date from around the 6th century BC.

The earliest period of Tamil literature, Sangam literature, is dated from ca. 300 BC – AD 300.

Tamil language inscriptions written c. 1st century BC and 2nd century AD have been discovered in Egypt, Sri Lanka and Thailand.

The two earliest manuscripts from India, to be acknowledged and registered by UNESCO Memory of the World register in 1997 and 2005 were in Tamil. More than 55% of the epigraphical inscriptions (about 55,000) found by the Archaeological Survey of India are in the Tamil language. The variety and quality of classical Tamil literature has led to its being described as one of the great classical traditions and literatures of the world. The oldest dated Tamil Brahmi inscription in the world has been found in Palani in Southern India scientifically dated to 540 BCE - the oldest known Brahmi inscriptions on the Indian sub-continent.

Finaly Indian Goverment Approved tamil is Oldest Indian Language
CIVAN

Sharjah, UAE

#382 Apr 11, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Telugu is older than tamil and kannada. Telugu people/Andhrapradesh people belong to IVC and the ancestors of WholeIndia north and south http://www.hindu.com/2008/04/26/stories/20080...
Tamil is the Oldest Indian Language .

1.The oldest dated Tamil Brahmi inscription in the world has been found in Palani in Southern India scientifically dated to 540 BCE - the oldest known Brahmi inscriptions on the Indian sub-continent.

Tamil brahmi script Southern India scientifically dated to 540 BCE . India oldest script. &

2. Sanskrit No native Script.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhattiprolu_scri ...

3. Bhattiprolu (PRAKRIT )script is not a TELUGU Script .

Bhattiprolu script- The inscriptions date to before 100 BCE, putting them among the earliest evidence of Brahmi writing in South India.There are a total of nine inscriptions, all dated to the 2nd century BCE or possibly earlier (a tenth inscription is in a script much closer to standard Brahmi), written in Prakrit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_language

4.Telugu-Kannada alphabet :-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki /Telugu-Kannada_alphabet

Kadamba (325 to 550 AD)-> Old Kannada -> Kannada and Telugu scripts

Between 1100 CE - 1400 CE Telugu script and Kannada script separated from Old-Kannada script (Halegannada script) or Kadamba script or Bhattiprolu (PRAKRIT ) Script. The Chalukyas influenced the modern form of Telugu script and its similarity with modern Kannada script

5.The earliest epigraphic record of the Telugu language dates to the late 6th century (CE 575 AD to 1022 AD)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telugu_language

5.The Malayalam language was first written in Vatteluttu, an ancient script of Tamil. However, modern Malayalam script evolved from Grantha, a script originally used to write Sanskrit. Both Vatteluttu and Grantha evolved from Brahmi, but independently.

Vattezhuthu round writing is a script that had evolved from Tamil-Brahmi, and was once used extensively in the southern part of present-day Tamil Nadu and in Kerala.

Malayalam was first written in Vatteluttu. The Vazhappalli inscription issued by Rajasekhara Varman is the earliest example, dating from about 830 CE.

Tamil is one of the longest surviving classical languages in the world.

this All of proof if you not understand you will be a _____.

Finaly Indian Goverment Approved tamil is Oldest Indian Language
CIVAN

Dubai, UAE

#383 Apr 12, 2014
Suhas wrote:
Old Kannada is the oldest language as per UK research...Tamil is derived from Kannada only,but script is different,Kannada is the only language that u can speak in many accents..kannada is very sweet language,which has 99% perfection in it,so no more comparison.
it is not good to compare any languge with Kannada..
Cool..........

FYI,

Ancient Cities in Tamil Nadu May Be Over 12,000 Years Old.predate the Sumerian civilization .

CHENNAI, INDIA, January 5, 2003: A British marine archaeologist and author Graham Hancock has been examining a submerged city on the East Coast of Tamil Nadu. Mr. Hancock says a civilization thriving there may predate the Sumerian civilization of Mesopotamia in present-day Iraq and definitely existed before the Harappan civilization in India and Pakistan. He has been excavating the site off the coast of Poompuhar, near Nagapattinam, 400 km south of Chennai. At a meeting of the Mythic Society in Bangalore in early December, Mr. Hancock said underwater explorations in 2001 provided evidence that corroborated Tamil mythological stories of ancient floods. He said tidal waves of 400 feet or more could have swallowed this flourishing port city any time between 17,000 and 7,000 years ago, the date of the last Ice Age. The Gulf of Cambay was also submerged, taking with it evidence of early man's migration. The populations Mr. Wells and Mr. Pitchappan (see previous article) mapped settled on India's East Coast 50,000 to 35,000 years ago and developed into modern man. According to Hancock, "the Poompuhar underwater site could well provide evidence that it was the cradle of modern civilization." Hancock's theory is strengthened by findings of India's National Institute of Oceanography (NIO), which has explored the site since the 1980s. Man-made structures like well rims, horseshoe-shaped building sites are some of the lost city's secrets. At low tide, some brick structures from the Sangam era are still visible in places like Vanagiri. The region, archaeologists say, has been built over and over again through the ages and some of its past is now being revealed. Mr. Glenn Milne, a British geologist from Durham University, has confirmed Hancock's theory.

More information is found at: http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_132193 ...

The Tamil language is older than Sanskrit and is "the mother of all Language.
CIVAN

Dubai, UAE

#384 Apr 12, 2014
Puvith Kannadiga wrote:
If Tamil is the oldest language why you guys in tamilnadu drink our water it's like drinking our shit and toilet hel tindange kanro. jai KARNATAKA
FYI,

The Tamil homeland or country.

Tamizhagam or Ancient Tamizh country refers to the Sangam period (6th century BCE - 4th century CE) territory of old South Indian royalties covering modern Tamil Nadu, Kerala and southern parts of Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka. Historians use the term synonymous with South India to refer to the Tamil speaking regions of India, including Kerala and Tamil Nadu.

Although traditional accounts once referred to these territories as a single cultural area, where Tamil was the natural language and culture of all people,archaeological data from protohistoric Kerala and Tamil Nadu "appears to challenge this notion of a separate culture region."

During the Sangam period Tamil culture began to spread outside Tamilakam

Finaly ,

Ancient Tamil country means Present Tamil nadu , Kerala , South part of Andharas & Karnadaka incuded Kaveri .

Cera , chola & Pandiyan rulled Ancient Tamil country.
CIVAN

Dubai, UAE

#385 Apr 12, 2014
Puvith Kannadiga wrote:
If Tamil is the oldest language why you guys in tamilnadu drink our water it's like drinking our shit and toilet hel tindange kanro. jai KARNATAKA
FYI,

The Chola emperor. During his reign, he extended the influences of the already vast Chola empire up to the banks of the river Ganges in the north and across the ocean(Included KARNATAKA, ANTHARAS, KERALA,ORIYA,BENGAL Etc..).

Rajendra’s territories extended coastal Burma, the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, Lakshadweep, Maldives, conquered the kings of Srivijaya (Sumatra, Java and Malay Peninsula in South East Asia) and Pegu islands with his fleet of ships. He defeated Mahipala, the Pala king of Bengal and Bihar, and to commemorate his victory he built a new capital called Gangaikonda Cholapuram. The Cholas became one of the most powerful dynasties in Asia during his reign. The Tamil Chola armies exacted tribute from Thailand and the Khmer kingdom of Cambodia.

Chola dynasty known for its valour ruled parts of Southern India for long. Their heartland was the fertile valley of famed Kaveri river and they ruled for long time. At their peak, they reined over significantly larger area – the whole country south of Tungabhadra. Rajaraja Chola and Rajendra Chola are names to remember.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajendra_Chola_I

Tamil emperor Arulmozhivarman alto titled Rajakesari was the King popularly known as Rajaraja Chola I. He established larger Chola empire during his rule between 985 and 1014 CE. His kingdom extended as far as Sri Lanka in the south, Kalinga (Odissa) in the North east. Besides his battle exploits, it was exactly a thousand and one years ago, he built the World’s first complete granite temple – a brilliant Brihadeeswarar Temple (Peruvudaiyar Kovil – Tanjore Big Temple)

His naval powers ensured that he annexed parts of Sri Lanka and occupied the islands of Maldives. The Cholas left a lasting legacy on the sea front which Tamilnadu can ever be proud of. His Navy could undertake combat and non combat missions, peace time patrol and interdiction of piracy, escort trade convoys and more, which a modern Naval super-power can be proud of.

NOTE :

Bangalore & kaveri are ancient time in Tamil Country ....

Now after Language speparation Tamil Country split Tamil nadu , Kerala , KARNATAKA & Andhars.....FACT ...FACT
Civan

Dubai, UAE

#386 Apr 14, 2014
ramesh Bangalore wrote:
World bug est Classical languages . Chines. Arabic. Hebrew. Tamil.
Fri st lure n languages ofter compere to other local language.
dot compere to Kannada .Telugu Hindi This are only state Language. Tamil is universes Language.
Dear All,

"Iniya Tamizh Puthandu Nalvaazhthukkal"

Wish You a Very Happy & Prosperous New Year 2014 for Tamil Nadu, Assam, West Bengal, Kerala, Manipur, Mithila, Odisha, Punjab, Tripura , Nepal, Bangladesh, Burma, Cambodia, Laos, Sri Lanka and Thailand & Some part of China.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#387 Apr 16, 2014
CIVAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Tamil is the Oldest Indian Language .
1.The oldest dated Tamil Brahmi inscription in the world has been found in Palani in Southern India scientifically dated to 540 BCE - the oldest known Brahmi inscriptions on the Indian sub-continent.
Tamil brahmi script Southern India scientifically dated to 540 BCE . India oldest script. &
2. Sanskrit No native Script.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhattiprolu_scri ...
3. Bhattiprolu (PRAKRIT )script is not a TELUGU Script .
Bhattiprolu script- The inscriptions date to before 100 BCE, putting them among the earliest evidence of Brahmi writing in South India.There are a total of nine inscriptions, all dated to the 2nd century BCE or possibly earlier (a tenth inscription is in a script much closer to standard Brahmi), written in Prakrit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_language
4.Telugu-Kannada alphabet :-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki /Telugu-Kannada_alphabet
Kadamba (325 to 550 AD)-> Old Kannada -> Kannada and Telugu scripts
Between 1100 CE - 1400 CE Telugu script and Kannada script separated from Old-Kannada script (Halegannada script) or Kadamba script or Bhattiprolu (PRAKRIT ) Script. The Chalukyas influenced the modern form of Telugu script and its similarity with modern Kannada script
5.The earliest epigraphic record of the Telugu language dates to the late 6th century (CE 575 AD to 1022 AD)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telugu_language
5.The Malayalam language was first written in Vatteluttu, an ancient script of Tamil. However, modern Malayalam script evolved from Grantha, a script originally used to write Sanskrit. Both Vatteluttu and Grantha evolved from Brahmi, but independently.
Vattezhuthu round writing is a script that had evolved from Tamil-Brahmi, and was once used extensively in the southern part of present-day Tamil Nadu and in Kerala.
Malayalam was first written in Vatteluttu. The Vazhappalli inscription issued by Rajasekhara Varman is the earliest example, dating from about 830 CE.
Tamil is one of the longest surviving classical languages in the world.
this All of proof if you not understand you will be a _____.
Finaly Indian Goverment Approved tamil is Oldest Indian Language
fool as a spoken language telugu is older than tamil and kannada
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#388 Apr 16, 2014
HISTORY OF TAMILNADU 1; Tamilnadu was formed by 3 ancient north indian kingdoms at 3rd century b.c.e. . Chola kingdom was established by the vellalars of north india. Pandya kingdom was estd by devars in sanskrit, in tamil thevars/mukkulathors of north west india. Chera kingdom was estd by sinhalese who were the origins of north india.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#389 Apr 16, 2014
HISTORY OF TAMILNADU 2;Scientifically Tamil early brahmi inscriptions are cave inscriptions at 250 b.c. Tamil sangam grammer was composed by north indians who migrated to south like agasthya,18 sidhar families and jains of north indian origin, almost totally sangam gramer including shilapathikaram,thirukkural,ak ananooru,purananooru has north indian jain origins. Tamil inscriptions found in srilanka,malaysia,bcoz of cholas,pallavas rule after 800 a.d. And 1000 a.d. Respectively.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#390 Apr 16, 2014
HISTORY OF TAMILNADU 3; ANDHRAPRADESH KINGDOMS IN TAMILNADU; PALLAVAS are the origins of ap, they extended their rule to kanchipuram present day in tamilnadu ruled tamilnadu and patronised tamil. They builted lot of large temples in tamilnadu and other countries. NAYAKS are the origins from KAKATIYA KINGDOM ruled tamilnadu and karnataka and builted many temples there. Almost 12 nayak kingdoms in tamilnadu and karnataka are the origins of ap, VIJAYANAGARA EMPIRE king SRIKRISHNA DEVARAYA had his origin from nayak clan after the wars, NAYAKS migrated to vijayanagara empire and karnataka regions and builted temples there. Thondamans r the descendants of pallavas ruled tamilnadu
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#391 Apr 16, 2014
HISTORY OF TAMILNADU 4; TEMPLES in tamilnadu were builted by telugu/ap origins like pallavas,nayaks, and some temples was builted by medieval cholas after 800 a.d. who were eastern chalukyas/rajputs merged with early cholas and builted temples. No tamil kingdoms like earlychola,pandyas,cheras didn't builted any temple architectures in tamilnadu.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#392 Apr 16, 2014
HISTORY OF TAMILNADU; ANCIENT TAMIL regions belong to andhraites. Tamil tribes belong to the kingdoms of early cholas,pandyas,chera remaining indegenious people belong to andhra tribes. Medieval tamilnadu was formed with more than 42% of telugu origins. Tamilnadu,tamil, only old as 300 b.c. There was no name called tamil before 300 b.c.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#393 Apr 16, 2014
HISTORY OF TAMILNADU;Tamil language and gramer was created by agasthya,18 sidhars,40000 velalars who migrated to deep extreme south and estd a mini tamil language country. Tamil sangam gramer was modified versions of vedic gramer by north indian saints who migrated to south.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#394 Apr 16, 2014
HISTORY OF TAMILNADU; ALL THE FAMOUS PEOPLE IN TAMILNADU ARE TELUGU ORIGINS; Some of them are pallavas,nayaks,bodhi dharma,tyagaraja,syamasyastri, sarvepalli radhakrishna,kambar, politician families like anna,jayalalitha,karunananidhi ,vaigo in srilanka etc.. Many great people are hailed from telugu in madras presidency or old south india. Most of the other famouspeople who r converted to tamils like subayya/subramanya bhartiyar, and ilayaraja etc... Even present tamilnadu governor and cm are telugus. Tamilnadu cine superstar rajini kanth is a marati origin, no famous person was born in fake tamilnadu.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#395 Apr 16, 2014
HISTOR OF TAMILNADU;Tamil and Tamilnadu only 300 b.c. Formed by early north indians who migrated to south. Kumarikandam is a myth no evidences found about tamil,no ancient indian literatures mentions about tamil tribes, tamil and tamilnadu 300 b.c. Only
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#396 Apr 16, 2014
Tamilnadu is fake and joke
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#397 Apr 16, 2014
The first south indian kingdom belong to ANDHRAPRADESH. ASHMAKA is the first kingdom of southindia from AP AT 800 b.c
Neelakaran

Bangalore, India

#398 Apr 17, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
The first south indian kingdom belong to ANDHRAPRADESH. ASHMAKA is the first kingdom of southindia from AP AT 800 b.c
Blah blah blah... blah blah.. blah... blah!!
Neelakaran

Bangalore, India

#399 Apr 17, 2014
Seriously Naveen, where do you get these info? Can you provide me some links to your online reference material? or any bibliographical proof?

I am very curious to know how you claim your statements as facts..

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