Why do people not believe in God?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#25274 Mar 23, 2013
mztza wrote:
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that your willing to admit to
Nope-- none of your "reasons" applied to me or my life in any way.

Clearly, ALL of them apply to YOURS, or you wouldn't have thought of them in the first place.

So.

How's prison working out for you, then?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#25275 Mar 23, 2013
mztza wrote:
everyone knows that when a person decides to make any decision on any thing
there is a base root to that decision
no one in this world, has ever made a decision based on nothing
it isn't logical
and your credibility goes down the drain
My "decision" to be an atheist is the result of me losing all my faith in gods.

In reality, it was not so much of a choice--as it was a realization-- that I no longer had ANY faith in the ridiculous (gods).

So, in fact? I did not make a decision at all! I just lost my faith--

-- why?

Easy: the faith had NO BASIS IN REALITY.

Since it seems that ALL GOD ARE NOT REAL? It was the realization that NOTHING can come from something that isn't there.

Once I realized this? I could not lie (faith) to myself any more.

And the default state is atheist-- no faith.

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Not a decisions at all, as it turns out

So... who's lost their credibility?

Oh! that would be ...

... YOU.

Well.... that would be you if you actually had HAD any in the first place...
Tom

Spring Valley, NY

#25279 Mar 27, 2013
CHRIS NEEDS TO EVOLVE wrote:
CHRIS -
HOW CAN U BELIEVE IN GOD. NO PROOF. PERIOD. YOU IDIOTS. THERE IS NO ARGUMENT TO BE HAD, BECUZ ALL OF YOU LESS INTELLIGENT BEINGS SIMPLY SAY "YOU HAVE TO HAVE FAITH." STUPID STUPID STUPID. PLEASE HURRY UP AND EXPIRE SO YOU CAN BE REPLACED WITH AN INTELLIGENT BEING SUCH AS MYSELF. LOL.
You are "intelligent" alright. Many people have turned thier back on God and now they cannot see the obvious. I got a few easy things even you can look at chris that proves God's exhistance. Just look at Every single animal and species on this planet, how they are so unique and differnent from eachother. How each of these have a specific PURPOSE, how they are twined within eachother, how INTELLIGENT even aniamls are. For example how Dogs have emotions and feelings, how they dream, how they can save a humans life they love, how they die when their owner dies from pain and sadness. How our earth is at the PERFECT distance from the Sun so that we don't boil to death and are at the perfect tempature for life to even be possible. How complex and magnificant the human body is and the brain. How large and complex the universe is and the billions of stars and planets that surround us. How we have a literal shield known as Jupiter that protects us from getting destroyed by comments because of it's gravitional pull is so strong it pulls most large rocks at itself off the path from the earth. But yes.. It was all "random" Chris.. everything started from a big explosion and bacteria that we grew from the primordial soup on the ground from. And beleivers are the "unintelligent" ones. Jeeze.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#25280 Mar 27, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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So.
All your god has, is extortion then?
I mean-- you say "before it's too late" (only you left off the apostrophe-- bad grammar) like there is some sort of THREAT.
Silly-bigot: there is no hell, just as there is no heaven.
Your monster-torturing god isn't any more real than Santa Claus.
So your threats are worthless.
did you not listing to jojo, then you are really ignorant.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#25281 Mar 27, 2013
Tom wrote:
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You are "intelligent" alright. Many people have turned thier back on God and now they cannot see the obvious. I got a few easy things even you can look at chris that proves God's exhistance. Just look at Every single animal and species on this planet, how they are so unique and differnent from eachother. How each of these have a specific PURPOSE, how they are twined within eachother, how INTELLIGENT even aniamls are. For example how Dogs have emotions and feelings, how they dream, how they can save a humans life they love, how they die when their owner dies from pain and sadness. How our earth is at the PERFECT distance from the Sun so that we don't boil to death and are at the perfect tempature for life to even be possible. How complex and magnificant the human body is and the brain. How large and complex the universe is and the billions of stars and planets that surround us. How we have a literal shield known as Jupiter that protects us from getting destroyed by comments because of it's gravitional pull is so strong it pulls most large rocks at itself off the path from the earth. But yes.. It was all "random" Chris.. everything started from a big explosion and bacteria that we grew from the primordial soup on the ground from. And beleivers are the "unintelligent" ones. Jeeze.
So true, look at this earth, if gravity changed one bit, earth would collapse. If we were just a bit too far or a bit too close too the sun we would die of massive temperatures. Look at the dinosaurs, I mean, why would they, asteroids cannot hit earth, because the atmosphere will destroy it. In the dinosaur times the atmosphere was much stronger, and a asteroid so big, hit the earth and killed the Dinosaurs so new life could form, that asteroid would've broken up if it wasn't for god.

So atheists, ask that question to yourself, how did everything come so perfectly, I wonder how did it.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#25283 Mar 28, 2013
Tom wrote:
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You are "intelligent" alright. Many people have turned thier back on God and now they cannot see the obvious.
Nope. I never did that-- I'm basically the same person, who WOKE UP and recognized your ugly god wasn't real in the first place.

There was no "turning my back" bullsh7t.

How could I "turn my back" to something that wasn't even there?
Tom wrote:
I got a few easy things even you can look at chris that proves God's exhistance.
Really? This ought to be good for a few laughs...
Tom wrote:
Just look at Every single animal and species on this planet, how they are so unique and differnent from eachother.
1) they are hardly "unique" and different-- in fact?

There are more similarities than differences.

Did you know you share about 20% of your DNA with carrots?

Yep-- you do. That's hardly "unique".

And since your "argument" has just been destroyed? So too your "argument" for your ugly god is destroyed.
Tom wrote:
How each of these have a specific PURPOSE, how they are twined within eachother, how INTELLIGENT even aniamls are.
1)... what? "purpose"?

What are you blathering on about-- there is no magical "purpose" to life on earth-- it just is.

As for "twined within each other" that is easily explained by scientific evolution.

I won't argue against animal intelligence-- that's demonstratively true-- they are nearly as intelligent as humans-- and some far more intelligent that your typical True Believer™ such as yourself.

But once again, I've demolished your "argument".
Tom wrote:
For example how Dogs have emotions and feelings, how they dream, how they can save a humans life they love, how they die when their owner dies from pain and sadness.
Proof that humans and dogs are not all that different, and that they both evolved from some common ancestor.

Good! You just argued FOR evolution-- and AGAINST your ugly godling.

Good!
Tom wrote:
How our earth is at the PERFECT distance from the Sun so that we don't boil to death and are at the perfect tempature for life to even be possible.
Ya got that bass-ackawards you ignorant idiot: life on earth EVOLVED to fit EARTH'S CONDITIONS.

Not the other way around, you ignorant moron.
Tom wrote:
How complex and magnificant the human body is and the brain.
Argument from incredulity--- fail.
Tom wrote:
How large and complex the universe is and the billions of stars and planets that surround us. How we have a literal shield known as Jupiter that protects us from getting destroyed by comments because of it's gravitional pull is so strong it pulls most large rocks at itself off the path from the earth.
Argument from incredulity--- fail.
Tom wrote:
But yes.. It was all "random" Chris.. everything started from a big explosion and bacteria that we grew from the primordial soup on the ground from. And beleivers are the "unintelligent" ones. Jeeze.
Yes-- you ARE the unintelligent one-- and grossly uninformed too.

Fail.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#25284 Mar 28, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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did you not listing to jojo, then you are really ignorant.
Please use English.

Your gibberish above has no meaning, so far as I can tell.

Perhaps you are speaking in tongues?

<LMAO>

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#25285 Mar 28, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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So true, look at this earth, if gravity changed one bit, earth would collapse. If we were just a bit too far or a bit too close too the sun we would die of massive temperatures. Look at the dinosaurs, I mean, why would they, asteroids cannot hit earth, because the atmosphere will destroy it. In the dinosaur times the atmosphere was much stronger, and a asteroid so big, hit the earth and killed the Dinosaurs so new life could form, that asteroid would've broken up if it wasn't for god.
So atheists, ask that question to yourself, how did everything come so perfectly, I wonder how did it.
Argument from incredulity--- fail.

For one?

Life on earth is BARELY GOOD ENOUGH-- not even CLOSE to "perfect".

I can list 100's of flaws in just the human "design" alone-- the supposedly "top" of the "creation".

That right there? These horrid flaws, that cause so much grief to most of humanity?

Is proof-positive that IF your ugly god is real?

Your ugly god is grossly incompetent.

Fail.
Big Al

Hibbing, MN

#25286 Mar 29, 2013
Tom wrote:
<quoted text>
You are "intelligent" alright. Many people have turned thier back on God and now they cannot see the obvious. I got a few easy things even you can look at chris that proves God's exhistance. Just look at Every single animal and species on this planet, how they are so unique and differnent from eachother. How each of these have a specific PURPOSE, how they are twined within eachother, how INTELLIGENT even aniamls are. For example how Dogs have emotions and feelings, how they dream, how they can save a humans life they love, how they die when their owner dies from pain and sadness. How our earth is at the PERFECT distance from the Sun so that we don't boil to death and are at the perfect tempature for life to even be possible. How complex and magnificant the human body is and the brain. How large and complex the universe is and the billions of stars and planets that surround us. How we have a literal shield known as Jupiter that protects us from getting destroyed by comments because of it's gravitional pull is so strong it pulls most large rocks at itself off the path from the earth. But yes.. It was all "random" Chris.. everything started from a big explosion and bacteria that we grew from the primordial soup on the ground from. And beleivers are the "unintelligent" ones. Jeeze.
Good argument!

However, the idea that there may be some sort of consciousness or intelligence responsible for the creation and operation of the universe is a far cry from the idea of a personal “God” with human emotions who sits in judgment on “His” creations.

"The idea that God is an oversized white male with a flowing beard who sits in the sky and tallies the fall of every sparrow is ludicrous. But if by 'God' one means the set of physical laws that govern the universe, then clearly there is such a God. This God is emotionally unsatisfying... it does not make much sense to pray to the law of gravity." ~Carl Sagan
mztza

Mesa, AZ

#25287 Mar 29, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
My "decision" to be an atheist is the result of me losing all my faith in gods.
In reality, it was not so much of a choice--as it was a realization-- that I no longer had ANY faith in the ridiculous (gods).
So, in fact? I did not make a decision at all! I just lost my faith--
-- why?
Easy: the faith had NO BASIS IN REALITY.
Since it seems that ALL GOD ARE NOT REAL? It was the realization that NOTHING can come from something that isn't there.
Once I realized this? I could not lie (faith) to myself any more.
And the default state is atheist-- no faith.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Not a decisions at all, as it turns out
So... who's lost their credibility?
Oh! that would be ...
... YOU.
Well.... that would be you if you actually had HAD any in the first place...
i beg to differ
you see, you never believed to begin with,
like most you just went with the flow of pretending to have faith
alot of people have done that
once you felt, you could not keep up the charade
you totaly walked away
aleast, let us be honest about it
mztza

Mesa, AZ

#25288 Mar 29, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope-- none of your "reasons" applied to me or my life in any way.
Clearly, ALL of them apply to YOURS, or you wouldn't have thought of them in the first place.
So.
How's prison working out for you, then?
your so funny,
apparently, your not to big on thinking thru on anything
your just the type who answers on the defence
you have the tendencies to spout out without thinking
then to add a little flavor, you accuse me of being a convict
RLOL
that was hilarious!!!!!
i haven't had a good laugh in awhile
you've made my day
so, since your suppose to know about me
what prison was i suppose to be in
what is my sentence
what crime, am i suppose to have committed
who was representing me
who was the judge
who are the prison guards
what do they serve in this supposedly prison
is one of your family member my cellmate
what is the color of my cell
excuse me, i'm really having some fun
WELL, and don't keep out any details
CAO

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#25289 Mar 29, 2013
mztza wrote:
<quoted text>
i beg to differ
you see, you never believed to begin with,
There you go-- the Classic Lie™

I just LOVE how you read my mind when I was a child, and tell me "you just never believed"

Wow... that's a new low, even for the likes of YOU.

Your hate of me knows no limits.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#25290 Mar 29, 2013
mztza wrote:
<quoted text>
your so funny,
apparently, your not to big on thinking thru on anything
your just the type who answers on the defence
you have the tendencies to spout out without thinking
then to add a little flavor, you accuse me of being a convict
RLOL
that was hilarious!!!!!
i haven't had a good laugh in awhile
you've made my day
so, since your suppose to know about me
what prison was i suppose to be in
what is my sentence
what crime, am i suppose to have committed
who was representing me
who was the judge
who are the prison guards
what do they serve in this supposedly prison
is one of your family member my cellmate
what is the color of my cell
excuse me, i'm really having some fun
WELL, and don't keep out any details
CAO
Your admission of defeat is duly noted.

Since you have NO counter to my arguments in anything the above.
necrofaith

Oceanside, CA

#25291 Apr 1, 2013
anyone who believes in "god" and the bible do so because they lack awareness of the insidious truth behind their "faith". Believers are oblivious to the contradictions and the hanous acts of and murder described in the bible. The non-believers i.e atheist and satanists are the wise ones for challenging the status quo, instead of being SHEEP WHO KEEP THE WORLD DIVERSED THROUGH BELIFE IN "GOD".
necrofaith

Oceanside, CA

#25292 Apr 1, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
So true, look at this earth, if gravity changed one bit, earth would collapse. If we were just a bit too far or a bit too close too the sun we would die of massive temperatures. Look at the dinosaurs, I mean, why would they, asteroids cannot hit earth, because the atmosphere will destroy it. In the dinosaur times the atmosphere was much stronger, and a asteroid so big, hit the earth and killed the Dinosaurs so new life could form, that asteroid would've broken up if it wasn't for god.
So atheists, ask that question to yourself, how did everything come so perfectly, I wonder how did it.
"GOD" isnt the answer. the earth was created through NATURAL occurrences. Lets pretend that earth was closer to the sun and always has been before life... guess what!, we would still be alive and well regardless of earth/sun distance becasue we would have EVOLVED and adapted to the circumstances given.
mom

Beaver, PA

#25293 Apr 1, 2013
what do you say to your children when you do not believe in God? Who's God? What about Heaven? Etc... The kids are six and seven. Thanks.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#25294 Apr 1, 2013
mom wrote:
what do you say to your children when you do not believe in God? Who's God? What about Heaven? Etc... The kids are six and seven. Thanks.
If they are asking about such things, where did they hear about them?

It's not really any different, than if they see SpongeBob on the cartoon channel, is it? They already understand that somethings are for entertainment and are not real.

So use that understanding they already have--and compare god with other fictional characters, such as santa claus, easter bunny, tooth fairy and so on.

Same for heaven/hell-- fairy tales.

Give'em a chance-- kids are not stupid-- they just lack experience.

:)
Expert in All Things

Cottonwood, CA

#25295 Apr 1, 2013
necrofaith wrote:
<quoted text> "GOD" isnt the answer. the earth was created through NATURAL occurrences. Lets pretend that earth was closer to the sun and always has been before life... guess what!, we would still be alive and well regardless of earth/sun distance becasue we would have EVOLVED and adapted to the circumstances given.
Who taught you this stuff and why do you believe it?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#25296 Apr 1, 2013
Expert in All Things wrote:
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Who taught you this stuff and why do you believe it?
You flunked 8th grade biology, didn't you?

And shortly thereafter, you quit school, right?

Sad.
Expert in All Things

Cottonwood, CA

#25297 Apr 1, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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You flunked 8th grade biology, didn't you?
And shortly thereafter, you quit school, right?
Sad.
Is that the last grade you remember?

Is that where you learned to mock and riddicule people when you have no argument?

Hope your parents had more that one kid to pin hopes on. Just saying...

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