Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#25170 Mar 17, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
You're describing hell, a place you will probably go to until you change your attitude.
Why does your religion always come down to threats?

If you want to have a REAL religion, you should lead not chase.

Stop threatening people who point out that you have nothing to offer and start OFFERING them something instead of threats.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#25171 Mar 17, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Why does your religion always come down to threats?
If you want to have a REAL religion, you should lead not chase.
Stop threatening people who point out that you have nothing to offer and start OFFERING them something instead of threats.
Sure, you guys can treat us Christians like threats but we can't bother you atheists, no, because it's a terrible crime to threaten you, but the best thing in the world to threaten us.

Sure, just give me the definitition of threat and we'll be non threatening.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#25172 Mar 17, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
You're describing hell, a place you will probably go to until you change your attitude.
Ho, no! I'm describing your ... "heaven", you silly git!

Read you bible-- it describes your "heaven" as a place where everyone is "singing hosannas" to god--

That's just a euphemism for bowing down and scraping the floor like a good little mind-slave.

There can BE no free will in your "heaven", you see-- for if there was?

Then, with an infinity of time to use? Sooner or later, SOMEONE will have... thoughts.

And you simply cannot HAVE THOUGHTS in "heaven" for it is also in your bible that THOUGHTS ARE SIN.

And SIN is simply NOT ALLOWED in ... "heaven".

So-- as time marches forward in "heaven" more and more people eventually have... thoughts.

And get EJECTED.

By the first 1000 years? There will be no one left...!

IF

IF there is FREE WILL in your ... "heaven".

So, no-- I was accurately describing your ... "heaven".

Very biblical it was, too.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#25173 Mar 17, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
A dog was knocked over by a car.
The police shot it dead because it was suffering from the pain.
The next day it walked into it's owner's home alive. It had the same birth mark as the one the police shot.
It was proved to be the same dog after DNA testing.
God's real. He saved that dog.
You are lying.

Or else you've been lied to.

Or? You are hallucinating big-time.

Which is it?

For a dog who really WAS shot dead? Cannot walk, you silly person.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#25174 Mar 17, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure, you guys can treat us Christians like threats but we can't bother you atheists, no, because it's a terrible crime to threaten you, but the best thing in the world to threaten us.
You USED to hang us from the nearest tree, or tie us to poles and set us on fire.

Or you'd tie us to 4 horses, and crack-that-whip, tearing us apart.

Or worse.

That is what you USED to do, back when your ugly religion was IN CHARGE.

But, because of that sort of atrocity and worse-- the founders if this country DELIBERATELY removed any and all religion from government.

It was a carefully calculated move: they understood that religion is ALWAYS corrupt from the beginning, and ALWAYS corrupts government sooner than later.

And they also realized that government is usually somewhat corrupt anyway.

And the two: religion AND government, is doubly corrupt.

So you are NO LONGER ALLOWED to practice your religion as you would LIKE: you cannot burn "heretics" at the stake any more.

That must really make you mad.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#25175 Mar 17, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure, you guys can treat us Christians like threats but we can't bother you atheists, no, because it's a terrible crime to threaten you, but the best thing in the world to threaten us.
Sure, just give me the definitition of threat and we'll be non threatening.
Show me a single post where ANY of us "atheists" have threatened you _IN ANY WAY_.

Then find me a SINGLE PAGE on this or ANY thread involving Christians that doesn't have one of you threatening eternal damnation from your imaginary Jewish Sky Wizard.

Seriously, the hypocrisy is MIND NUMBING.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#25176 Mar 17, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
You are lying.
Or else you've been lied to.
Or? You are hallucinating big-time.
Which is it?
For a dog who really WAS shot dead? Cannot walk, you silly person.
Watch it's a miracle with Roma Downey. And that shows it's policy that if lied it can be shut down!

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#25177 Mar 17, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Show me a single post where ANY of us "atheists" have threatened you _IN ANY WAY_.
Then find me a SINGLE PAGE on this or ANY thread involving Christians that doesn't have one of you threatening eternal damnation from your imaginary Jewish Sky Wizard.
Seriously, the hypocrisy is MIND NUMBING.
Let's say this thread for a starter. And then you have the thread that says God is not Real!!!

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#25178 Mar 17, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's say this thread for a starter. And then you have the thread that says God is not Real!!!
I'm going to talk to you like you are a child. Try and rise to that level of intellect.

If you tell me that if I don't do what you say, I am going to burn in Hell for all eternity, THAT IS A THREAT. YOU are THREATENING ME with a punishment if I don't do what you want.

If I tell you that God is not real, that is _NOT_ a threat. I'm not threatening you with a punishment. I'm not telling you to do anything.

If I'm right, there will be NO EFFECT on you.
If I'm wrong, there will be NO EFFECT on you.

The fact that you consider "God is not real" to be a _THREAT_ to you is ridiculous.

Do you REALLY not understand the difference between what you do and what you claim others are doing?

I'm asking seriously. Because, I'm pretty sick and tired of hearing Christians complain about people doing to them LESS THAN the Christians are doing to others.

Example:
Saying "HAPPY HOLIDAYS" is _NOT_ a threat to your religion. It's an acknowledgement that in a 6 day period there are between 5 and 6 different holidays some of which are exclusive, others are inclusive.

Acknowledging that SEVERAL holidays exist does not negate your ONE of them.

GET OVER YOURSELVES!

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#25179 Mar 17, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm going to talk to you like you are a child. Try and rise to that level of intellect.
If you tell me that if I don't do what you say, I am going to burn in Hell for all eternity, THAT IS A THREAT. YOU are THREATENING ME with a punishment if I don't do what you want.
If I tell you that God is not real, that is _NOT_ a threat. I'm not threatening you with a punishment. I'm not telling you to do anything.
If I'm right, there will be NO EFFECT on you.
If I'm wrong, there will be NO EFFECT on you.
The fact that you consider "God is not real" to be a _THREAT_ to you is ridiculous.
Do you REALLY not understand the difference between what you do and what you claim others are doing?
I'm asking seriously. Because, I'm pretty sick and tired of hearing Christians complain about people doing to them LESS THAN the Christians are doing to others.
Example:
Saying "HAPPY HOLIDAYS" is _NOT_ a threat to your religion. It's an acknowledgement that in a 6 day period there are between 5 and 6 different holidays some of which are exclusive, others are inclusive.
Acknowledging that SEVERAL holidays exist does not negate your ONE of them.
GET OVER YOURSELVES!
Someone's getting cranky.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#25180 Mar 17, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Watch it's a miracle with Roma Downey. And that shows it's policy that if lied it can be shut down!
You're kidding right?

I just looked up the show. Episode 1 is the Cokeville Bombing.

Here's the story.

A man and woman took a school hostage. The woman had a bomb strapped to her. At one point, the bomb went off prematurely and partially malfunctioned. Only 1 of 5 blasting caps exploding.

Had they all exploded, it is likely that many people would have died.

Instead 79 people were BURNED, but no one died.

THAT is your "miracle"?! Are you kidding me?!

79 innocent teachers and students are injured?!

Here are some ways THAT could have been a miracle:

- The woman with the bomb on her is turned into salt and the children escape.
- The woman with the bomb on her vanishes in a flash of light.
- She tries to set off the bomb and NONE of the caps explode. Police later can't find anything wrong with them. They all should have exploded.
- The children and teachers are all teleported outside of the school as the bomb goes off, none of them are hurt.
- An angel comes down, grabs the woman, flies her into the air where she explodes harming no one.
- The bomb explodes but only bird feathers come out instead of fire.

THAT is what a miracle looks like.

God is _ALL POWERFUL_ and capable of _ANY_ solution (possible or impossible).

It's not a miracle unless the ONLY valid explanation is God magic.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#25181 Mar 17, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Someone's getting cranky.
Yes, when I deal with entitled arrogant children, I get cranky.

You consider the fact that people don't allow you to dictate their lives to be a "threat" to you.

I mean, even coming from someone from South Africa, that's astonishingly arrogant.

You think that's it's perfectly okay to openly threaten people with violence and damnation if they don't do what you say and when they say "No", you claim that that is a threat to you?

Seriously. You're entire religion is an absolute blight on human history.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#25182 Mar 17, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
You're kidding right?
I just looked up the show. Episode 1 is the Cokeville Bombing.
Here's the story.
A man and woman took a school hostage. The woman had a bomb strapped to her. At one point, the bomb went off prematurely and partially malfunctioned. Only 1 of 5 blasting caps exploding.
Had they all exploded, it is likely that many people would have died.
Instead 79 people were BURNED, but no one died.
THAT is your "miracle"?! Are you kidding me?!
79 innocent teachers and students are injured?!
Here are some ways THAT could have been a miracle:
- The woman with the bomb on her is turned into salt and the children escape.
- The woman with the bomb on her vanishes in a flash of light.
- She tries to set off the bomb and NONE of the caps explode. Police later can't find anything wrong with them. They all should have exploded.
- The children and teachers are all teleported outside of the school as the bomb goes off, none of them are hurt.
- An angel comes down, grabs the woman, flies her into the air where she explodes harming no one.
- The bomb explodes but only bird feathers come out instead of fire.
THAT is what a miracle looks like.
God is _ALL POWERFUL_ and capable of _ANY_ solution (possible or impossible).
It's not a miracle unless the ONLY valid explanation is God magic.
What are you looking up, show me that, show evidence unless you're lying

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#25183 Mar 17, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Watch it's a miracle with Roma Downey. And that shows it's policy that if lied it can be shut down!
Silly.

You are seriously being lied to here-- and their underlying policy is to keep on lying until they get caught, then move on to the next Greatest Show On Earth.

PT Barnum would have been proud: you are all, each and every one, a sucker.

You are being fleeced by your masters, just like the passively ignorant sheep you so closely resemble.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#25184 Mar 17, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, when I deal with entitled arrogant children, I get cranky.
You consider the fact that people don't allow you to dictate their lives to be a "threat" to you.
I mean, even coming from someone from South Africa, that's astonishingly arrogant.
You think that's it's perfectly okay to openly threaten people with violence and damnation if they don't do what you say and when they say "No", you claim that that is a threat to you?
Seriously. You're entire religion is an absolute blight on human history.
Now someone's really getting cranky

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#25185 Mar 17, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's say this thread for a starter. And then you have the thread that says God is not Real!!!
Your god?

Not real-- provably so.

How, you ask?

Easy: the label that describes what you god can and cannot do?

Contradicts itself.

A contradiction cannot exist, QED.

Therefore? As depicted? Your god cannot exist.

If you remove all the descriptions from your god? What is left?

Answer: nothing.

Which, is what your imaginary god is: nothing.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#25186 Mar 17, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Silly.
You are seriously being lied to here-- and their underlying policy is to keep on lying until they get caught, then move on to the next Greatest Show On Earth.
PT Barnum would have been proud: you are all, each and every one, a sucker.
You are being fleeced by your masters, just like the passively ignorant sheep you so closely resemble.
Wait, wait, wait, you're even crankier than I expected

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#25187 Mar 17, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
What are you looking up, show me that, show evidence unless you're lying
All "miracles" are lies, unless you can show otherwise.

THAT IS the default position: ALL claims that are extra-ordinary are presumed to be LIES, unless EXTRA-ORDINARY PROOF is provided.

You have no proof-- extra-ordinary or OTHERWISE.

Thus?

ALL your claims are false-- the default position (without proof).

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#25188 Mar 17, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Your god?
Not real-- provably so.
How, you ask?
Easy: the label that describes what you god can and cannot do?
Contradicts itself.
A contradiction cannot exist, QED.
Therefore? As depicted? Your god cannot exist.
If you remove all the descriptions from your god? What is left?
Answer: nothing.
Which, is what your imaginary god is: nothing.
Shame
Get back on the Porch

Redding, CA

#25189 Mar 17, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
All "miracles" are lies, unless you can show otherwise.
THAT IS the default position: ALL claims that are extra-ordinary are presumed to be LIES, unless EXTRA-ORDINARY PROOF is provided.
You have no proof-- extra-ordinary or OTHERWISE.
Thus?
ALL your claims are false-- the default position (without proof).
Does this also apply to ALL of your claims?

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