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Michael Hand moved to Australia in September, 1967. At first Hand went to work selling development lots along the Australian coast. The company, Ocean Shores Development, was run by lawyer Fred Miller, a senior executive for the shipping empire owned by Sir Peter Abeles, the longtime business partner, Rupert Murdoch. One of the largest investors in this scheme was the singer Pat Boone. The registered directors included Boone of Beverly Hills, California and Patricia Swan of Sydney, Australia. Swan was Frank Nugan's secretary.

It was while working for Miller that Hand made contact with Bernie Houghton who had also moved to Australia in 1967. Houghton had established the Bourbon and Beefsteak Bar and Restaurant in Sydney. He claimed that he met Hand in the autumn of 1967. However, in one interview he admitted he had been told about Hand in 1964: "I had heard of Mike Hand's great combat exploits and courage, which was well-known in Vietnam."

Regular visitors to the Bourbon and Beefsteak Bar included two Central Intelligence Agency station chiefs in Australia (Milton Corley Wonus and John Denley Walker). Lieutenant Colonel Bobby Boyd, a Texan who was a former U.S. embassy military attaché in Latin America, also went to work for Houghton.

In 1969 Hand formed his own company called Australian and Pacific Holdings. His two partners were Clive Wilfred Lucas and John J. Foley. The plan was to develop an island off Australia's barrier reef. Hand and Lucas visited Vietnam where they raised $16,000 from members of the U.S. Army. On 16th January, 1970, the directors of Australian and Pacific Holdings decided to lend the $16,000 to Frank Nugan.

In May 1970 a list of Australian and Pacific's shareholders was filed with the government. Of the thirty-seven listed shareholders, four had the address c/o Air America whereas another had the address c/o Continental Air Service. Later both Air America and Continental Air Service exposed as a CIA front. Five shareholders were reachable through the U.S. Agency for International Development. This agency posed as a cover for CIA covert operatives such as David Sanchez Morales.

In the early 1970s Hand spent a lot of time travelling. A former CIA colleague, Douglas Sapper, claimed "Michael showed up in Laos a lot. I saw him in Phnom Penh (Cambodia) from time to time." Sapper also saw Hand with Houghton in Vietnam. Bernie Houghton later told the police that he was with Hand buying surplus U.S. war material for resale.

Houghton clearly had important contacts in Australia. When he applied for a new Australian visa in 1972, he gave the immigration officers the name of Leo Carter, director of the Australian Security Intelligence Organization (ASIO) in New South Wales, to support his application. Carter also arranged for him to get permission for unlimited re-entries to Australia in the future.

Allan Parks claims that Houghton was active in the drug trade in the 1970s. "There's no doubt about it, he'd fly anything. The Golden Triangle, that's where he got his opium from. There was one flight, he flew in slot machines. He did some deals over in India."

There is no doubt that Michael Hand and Frank Nugan were involved in promoting anti-socialist political causes. As Jonathan Kwitny points out in The Crimes of the Patriots:“By associating with the more hard-hat attitudes of the right wing of Labour, Nugan and Hand may have done more to help their cause than they could by sticking to the more right-wing parties. Certainly it is a standard ploy of the CIA to work less with the most openly anti-communist parties than with the anti-communist wing of the party on the borderline.”

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Nice find rider very informative....CIA and Mossad = modern day Mafia

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The Conspiracy Files delves into the final mystery of 9/11: a third tower at the World Trade Centre, which along with the Twin Towers, also collapsed that day.
http://fightingforliberty.ning.com/video/cons...

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LOL......... unlike the story of Dr. Astaneh-Asl ....... what a clueless simpleton you are Fontain ..... no wonder your family wants nothing to do with you
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Operation Terror
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No steel framed buildings have ever had a global collapse due to fire.
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Police Chiefs Across the US Alerted About 9/11 WTC Demolition Evidence
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OPERATION STUPID

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Still don’t believe there’s ANY evidence of BLAST SOUND?

How about radio transmissions and testimony from FDNY members themselves.
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We believe TOWER 7 is the crux of the entire investigation. There was no official report as to how a 47 story concrete and steel high rise, that was not struck by an airplane, collapsed at near free-fall speed into it’s own footprint. That is until this week (8/21/08)- Almost 7 years later after unrelenting public pressure.
On Thursday, NIST released the following:“Our study found that the fires in WTC 7, which were uncontrolled but otherwise similar to fires experienced in other tall buildings, caused an extraordinary event,”ť said NIST WTC Lead Investigator Shyam Sunder.“Heating of floor beams and girders caused a critical support column to fail, initiating a fire-induced progressive collapse that brought the building down.”

“Video and photographic evidence combined with detailed computer simulations show that neither explosives nor fuel oil fires played a role in the collapse of WTC 7,”ť Sunder said.
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ATTENTION FIREFIGHTERS: We would greatly appreciate your help and support. We are quickly developing print material to distribute to other firefighters and the general public. We will also be listing all firefighter names who publicly support a REAL investigation. We know it may put some of you in a difficult position, but we believe the risk is more than worth the benefit. And, we will have strength in numbers. So, if you are willing to stand up together, please email me your contact info. If at any time you need your name removed, we will honor your request.
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Most Americans don’t remember Tower 7. It was shown in the mainstream media on 9/11/01 but has been rarely shown since, even though Towers 1 and 2 are shown incessantly. It took almost 7 years for an official report determining the cause of collapse to be issued.
It is such a critical part of the 9/11 investigation because it was not struck by an airplane, and the official report now admits it was not significantly damaged by the falling towers or fuel tanks inside.
The official cause of collapse is now listed as “Thermal Expansion” with a critical failure of Column 79. Col-umn 79 was in a corner, however as you can see above, the building collapsed symmetrically at near free-fall speed. THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN HIS-TORY! This violates the laws of Physics.
&#61623; 47 story high rise symmetrically collapsed.
&#61623; Did not favor the “weaker” side & fell at near free fall speed.
&#61623; Over 100 First Responders heard explosions.
&#61623; The NY Housing Authority Emergency Coordina-tor, Barry Jennings, heard and was blown down by the explosions in Tower 7 BEFORE Towers 1 or 2 fell.
&#61623; There are audio and video recordings of explosions.
&#61623; Tower 7 was not struck by an aircraft.
&#61623; Fits all indicators of “Controlled Demolition
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There are many more questions, more than we have answers for. What is clear is that things must change. Where do we begin? By putting things in perspective. The World Trade Center disaster was
* The largest loss of firefighters ever at one incident.
* The second largest loss of life on American soil.
* The first total collapse of a high-rise during a fire in United States history.
* The largest structural collapse in recorded history.
Now, with that understanding, you would think we would have the largest fire investigation in world history. You would be wrong. Instead, we have a series of unconnected and uncoordinated superficial inquiries. No comprehensive "Presidential Blue Ribbon Commission." No top-notch National Transportation Safety Board-like response. Ironically, we will probably gain more detailed information about the destruction of the planes than we will about the destruction of the towers. We are literally treating the steel removed from the site like garbage, not like crucial fire scene evidence.
The World Trade Center disaster demands the most comprehensive detailed investigation possible. No event in our entire fire service history has ever come close to the magnitude of this incident.
We, the undersigned, call on FEMA to immediately impanel a "World Trade Center Disaster Review Panel" to coordinate a complete review of all aspects of the World Trade Center incident.
The panel should be charged with creating a comprehensive report that examines a variety of topics including determining exactly how and why the towers collapsed, critiquing the building evacuation procedures and the means of egress, assessing the buildings' fire protection features (steel "fireproofing," fire protection systems, etc.), and reviewing the valiant firefighting procedures employed. In addition, the Panel should be charged with preparing a detailed set of recommendations, including the critical changes necessary to our building codes.
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Let's see what professional firefighters think of Erik Lawyer



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andet1987 wrote:
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9/11 was the New Pearl Harbor
Agreed andet...Daddy Bush said he needed one to secure the USA under a New World Order.

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On those references you gave above....
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Fontain ..... party of ONE !!!!

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Trolling again as usual eh RADEKTroll
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The proof is in the phone call to Controlled Demolitions Co....
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