*** Did WTC 7 Collapse due to fire ***

Created by Timesten on Nov 19, 2010

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#2263 Feb 28, 2013
RADEKT wrote:
how about the Windsor Tower in Spain Dopey
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If I'm dopey you must be grumpy eh? Or maybe you reached menapause and are all of these. Your sarcasms never end do they?
http://midwifemuse.files.wordpress.com/2008/1...
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Fyi those buildings didn't collapse, they stood. Sure you will get buckled beams in the hottest areas, but the proof is....the buildings didn't come down in near free fall speed into their own footprints, meaning straight down. The fires in the WTC were no where near the intensity of the fires in those pics, and the steel was much thicker in the WTC, but you knew all of that huh?
End of story.
Read and get real radical Rad.
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...

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#2264 Feb 28, 2013
For the record. 2/26/13
*** Did WTC 7 Collapse due to fire ***
Yes 1,712 54%
No 1,422 45%
Current Total 3,134
We know how the polls and judging fabrication works here. one mod click and things get reversed.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T80OHV1...

From 2/28/13
*** Did WTC 7 Collapse due to fire ***
Yes 3,012 63%
No 1,708 36%
Current Total 4,720

So in 2 days you shills received 1300 votes vs 300 votes for the truthers side.

Yeah right, I'll believe that.
Manipulation and Disinfo is all you have shills have and give.
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The Israeli Mossad motto:“By way of deception, thou shall do war”.
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#2265 Feb 28, 2013
Timesten wrote:
The fires in the WTC were no where near the intensity of the fires in those pics.
End of story.
Prove it!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#2266 Feb 28, 2013
Sore looser, the Twoof movement is dead.
Timesten wrote:
For the record. 2/26/13
*** Did WTC 7 Collapse due to fire ***
Yes 1,712 54%
No 1,422 45%
Current Total 3,134
We know how the polls and judging fabrication works here. one mod click and things get reversed.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T80OHV1...
From 2/28/13
*** Did WTC 7 Collapse due to fire ***
Yes 3,012 63%
No 1,708 36%
Current Total 4,720
So in 2 days you shills received 1300 votes vs 300 votes for the truthers side.
Yeah right, I'll believe that.
Manipulation and Disinfo is all you have shills have and give.
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The Israeli Mossad motto:“By way of deception, thou shall do war”.
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#2267 Feb 28, 2013
Timesten wrote:
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Fyi those buildings didn't collapse, they stood. Sure you will get buckled beams in the hottest areas, but the proof is
Yes, LOL, Your web site debunks you, all steel framed portions of the Madrid building fell.

http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/madrid_...

The rest was steel encased in concrete, there was no steel encased in concrete in the three towers!

PROOF: Fire does not affected concrete as much as steel and fire can bring down all non concrete encased portions of a building due to fire.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#2268 Feb 28, 2013
Why did you lie mentally ill unemployed truck driver, here is your post you claim you never wrote.

SO MUCH FOR TEAM TWOOF, YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO WITH TEAM LIES!
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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------lmfao----
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Timesten wrote:
You're an idiot sheen
What is less well-known, however, is that the U.S. military did try to create such a breed of 'supersoldier'. And that killing goats with psychic powers was just the tip of the iceberg.
Indeed, the fruits of Project Jedi, and several other clandestine paranormal projects, have been actively used in battle - and are almost certainly being employed in the war on terror and the hunt for Osama Bin Laden.
'You have to understand that these ideas were not considered wacky,' says Sergeant Glenn Wheaton, a Special Forces soldier seconded to Project Jedi.
'They were seen as the next military frontier. We needed to know whether it was possible to use paranormal forces for military ends. We also needed to know how to protect ourselves should they be used against us.'
One of the great proponents of psychic warfare was Major General Albert Stubblebine III - and back in 1983, he was at the height of his powers.
He was one of America's most distinguished soldiers and chief of U.S. Army Intelligence, with 16,000 soldiers under his command. He was instrumental in the invasions of Panama and Grenada. In fact, it is no exaggeration to say that Albert Stubblebine III was at the heart of America's military machine.
A Major General has a little higher rank than you private Sheen...
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Stubblebine graduated from the United States Military Academy and received a master's degree in chemical engineering from Columbia University. His active duty career spanned 32 years, and he is credited with redesigning the U.S. Army intelligence architecture during his command of the United States Army Intelligence and Security Command from 1981 to 1984.
Other U.S. Army commands that he led included the Electronic Research and Development Command (ERADCOM) and the Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM). Stubblebine was a key person in the U.S. military invasion of Grenada and was, according to a report published by the Daily Mail, "at the heart of America's military machine". He is a member of the Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.
After Stubblebine retired from the Army in 1984 he worked for BDM Corporation. He also acted as a part-time consultant to two government contractors, ERIM and Space Applications Corporation.
Stubblebine appeared in the 2006 documentary "One Nation Under Siege
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And you probably never heard of PSYOP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_Op ...(United_States)
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How could you know about it you spend all your time in denials and never research matters.

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#2269 Feb 28, 2013
I don't claim anything shill I am merely the messenger showing what other people claimed. Did I ever say I was a firm believer of it, you idiot.
And the US govt put it out, so get your email pen out and spew your idiocy to them.

Get a life shilly sheen

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Edmonton, Canada

#2270 Mar 1, 2013
Timesten wrote:
I don't claim anything shill I am merely the messenger showing what other people claimed. Did I ever say I was a firm believer of it, you idiot.
And the US govt put it out, so get your email pen out and spew your idiocy to them.

Get a life shilly sheen
You just described yourself as a mindless shill.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#2271 Mar 1, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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You just described yourself as a mindless shill.
LOL, That he did!

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#2272 Mar 4, 2013
25 Rules of Disinformation

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach.

Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as "twoofers",“kooks”,“ right-wing”,“liberal”,“left-wi ng”,“terrorists”,“conspiracy buffs”,“radicals”,“militia”,“r acists”,“religious fanatics”,“sexual deviates”, and so forth.

This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
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Look up in the air its a bird, it's a plane, yes it's a plane, it's AA flight 77.
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Or is it? We'll never know for sure will we?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#2273 Mar 4, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
25 Rules of Disinformation
5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach.
Exactly, Never ever respond to the fact all steel framed portions of the Windsor tower suffered total collapse due to fire. Just change the subject.

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#2274 Mar 6, 2013
By Dave Heller
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The World Trade Center (WTC) contained seven buildings. The Twin Towers were called buildings One (WTC1) and Two (WTC2). They collapsed in truly astounding fashion, but the event that caused me first to question the official story about the events of 9-11 was viewing videos of the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC7).
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If you've forgotten, WTC7 was a 47-story building that was not hit by an airplane or by any significant debris from either WTC1 or WTC2. Buildings 3, 4, 5, and 6 were struck by massive amounts of debris from the collapsing Twin Towers, yet none collapsed, despite their thin-gauge steel supports.
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WTC7, which was situated on the next block over, was the farthest of the buildings from WTC1 and WTC2. WTC7 happened to contain the New York City Office of Emergency Management (OEM), a facility that was, according to testimony to the 9-11 Commission, one of the most sophisticated Emergency Command and Control Communication Centers on the planet.
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“And likely the nerve center for the coordination of all the elements that combined became 9/11.”“Or the “studio” that was used to create the Wag The Dog Black Op For Political Gain that was 9/11.”
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But shortly after 5:20 pm on Sept. 11, as the horrific day was coming to a close, WTC7 mysteriously imploded and fell to the ground in an astounding 6.5 seconds.
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6.5 seconds. This is a mere 0.5 seconds more than freefall in a vacuum. To restate this, a rock dropped from the 47th floor would have taken at least 6 seconds to hit the ground. WTC7, in its entirety, fell to the earth in 6.5 seconds. Now, recall, we're supposed to believe that each floor of the building "pancaked" on the one below.
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Each of the 47 floors supposedly pancaked and collapsed, individually. Yet WTC7 reached the ground in 0.5 seconds longer than freefall. Is this really possible?
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Judge for yourself. Watch WTC7 go down. It takes 6.5 seconds. Take out your stopwatch and watch the video.
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http://www.garlicandgrass.org/issue6/Dave_Hel...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha ah ah ah hah h
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That’s Funnier Than Pancakes Falling On Your Plate Uh Huh Eh !

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#2275 Mar 6, 2013
We know how the polls and judging fabrication works here. one mod click and things get reversed.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T80OHV1 ...
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For the record. 2/26/13
*** Did WTC 7 Collapse due to fire ***
Yes 1,712 54%
No 1,422 45%
Current Total 3,134
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And in just 2 days...
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From 2/28/13
*** Did WTC 7 Collapse due to fire ***
Yes 3,012 63%
No 1,708 36%
Current Total 4,720
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From 3/6/13
*** Did WTC 7 Collapse due to fire ***
Yes 3,032 63%
No 1,719 36%
Current Total 4,751
Hmmmmmm Reminds me of the Bush/Gore polls

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#2276 Mar 6, 2013

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#2277 Mar 6, 2013
They said the failure of one beam #79 brought down all 4 corners at near free fall speed...
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#2278 Mar 8, 2013
From 3/6/13
*** Did WTC 7 Collapse due to fire ***
Yes 3,032 63%
No 1,719 36%
Current Total 4,751

SAYS IT ALL!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#2279 Mar 8, 2013
Timesten wrote:
They said the failure of one beam #79 brought down all 4 corners at near free fall speed...
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...
Not quite

5. How did the fires cause WTC 7 to collapse?

The heat from the uncontrolled fires caused steel floor beams and girders to thermally expand, leading to a chain of events that caused a key structural column to fail. The failure of this structural column then initiated a fire-induced progressive collapse of the entire building.

According to the report's probable collapse sequence, heat from the uncontrolled fires caused thermal expansion of the steel beams on the lower floors of the east side of WTC 7, damaging the floor framing on multiple floors.

Eventually, a girder on Floor 13 lost its connection to a critical column, Column 79, that provided support for the long floor spans on the east side of the building (see Diagram 1). The displaced girder and other local fire-induced damage caused Floor 13 to collapse, beginning a cascade of floor failures down to the 5th floor. Many of these floors had already been at least partially weakened by the fires in the vicinity of Column 79. This collapse of floors left Column 79 insufficiently supported in the east-west direction over nine stories.

The unsupported Column 79 then buckled and triggered an upward progression of floor system failures that reached the building's east penthouse. What followed in rapid succession was a series of structural failures. Failure first occurred all the way to the roof line—involving all three interior columns on the easternmost side of the building (79, 80, and 81). Then, progressing from east to west across WTC 7, all of the columns failed in the core of the building (58 through 78). Finally, the entire façade collapsed.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#2280 Mar 8, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
But shortly after 5:20 pm on Sept. 11, as the horrific day was coming to a close, WTC7 mysteriously imploded and fell to the ground in an astounding 6.5 seconds.
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6.5 seconds. This is a mere 0.5 seconds more than freefall in a vacuum.
LOL, Repeating a lie does not make it true. Video proof of the twoof movement lies.

The evidence supports the NIST contention that the building collapse progressed from the penthouse out as columns weakened by the fires.[b]The slow sinking of the penthouses, indicating the internal collapse of the building behind the visible north wall, took 8.2 seconds according to a NIST preliminary report. Seismograph trace of the collapse of WTC 7 indicates that parts of the building were hitting the ground for 18 seconds. This means the collapse took at least 18 seconds, of which only the last approximately 15 seconds are visible in videos: 8 seconds for the penthouses and 7 seconds for the north wall to come down.[/b]

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#2281 Mar 9, 2013
WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall (Part III) by David Chandler
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Published on Feb 4, 2013
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Part III of this series fully explores the implications of NIST's admission that WTC7 entered actual freefall and critiques the foundations of their "investigation." In the end it calls for a new, independent, fully empowered, and open investigation.
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In this video report you will find that all of WTC7's supporting columns around the 8th floor gave away at once together.
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The whole building let go at one moment in time.
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NIST now says it took 5.4 seconds for the complete collapse.
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It was not a progressive collapse. It happened all at once.
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#2282 Mar 9, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall (Part III) by David Chandler
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Published on Feb 4, 2013

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In this video report you will find that all of WTC7's supporting columns around the 8th floor gave away at once together.
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The whole building let go at one moment in time.
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NIST now says it took 5.4 seconds for the complete collapse.
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It was not a progressive collapse. It happened all at once.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =oqucIFM7S1YXX&list=PL9D31 46EB0E5018E2
errata:

In this video report you will find that all of WTC7's supporting columns down low in the building for 8 floors had to give away at once together to thrust the building immediately into free-fall acceleration as it did.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha ha ha h
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Didn't Need Any For This CD Job But Its Funny Anyway Huh Eh !

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