Christian Lies Exposed
Reality Bites

Forked River, NJ

#48220 Sep 17, 2012
Redoran wrote:
<quoted text>
So you truly believe your "Skydaddy" is watching over your affairs 24/7 and, accordingly, protecting you from *all things* Evil. If I have eluded the "ballpark", please do let me know.
Do you truly believe that you evolved from nothing, after it become something, and then some other nothing (that also become something) affected it and turned it into something alive?

That's hard enough to believe, but on top of that, you also believe that a little something randomly decided to reproduce itself and (also randomly) became a super computer wrapped in an incredibly complex mass of cells, proteins, enzymes and the like, with billions and billions of DNA strands that randomly organize themselves to make it all work?

I'm sorry... did I say organize? I meant randomly holding in what an uninformed person would think is a pattern (but it's really not) and seemingly float together to generate growth.

I'm sorry... did I say generate? That would imply purpose, and anyone with a love for science would know that random action doesn't have purpose, it is just a reaction to something else. Yup randon actions randomly causing more random actions, which amazingly result iin what LOOKS like and amazingly designed system of life... but WE KNOW better. It just LOOKS that way!

(Redoran thinks as he's reading this post) Hmmm... maybe I can say that aliens planted us here... yeah, but then I'd have to explain where they came from... and I can't even explain what thought is and how that could have been a result of evolution... I know! I'll attack him for believing in fairy tales spirits in the sky again. Yeah, that'll get him!

“Question everything.”

Since: Jan 07

Lookingglass Land

#48221 Nov 18, 2012
good wife wrote:
<quoted text>Your buddy, bejair, took scripture and quoted it out of context. He repeated only part of the passages and interpreted them as he saw fit.
Bejair often quoted Is.45 [7] I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things

Now you can try to apply christian apologetics to this but it's silly to claim it was taken out of context. Often, the Bible verses are free-standing from one another with no story context or immediate message context. A lot of the Bible books are jumbles of ideas and messages from Bible god with no real context. That's why churches emphasize faith over critical thinking when it comes to the Bible.

“Question everything.”

Since: Jan 07

Lookingglass Land

#48222 Nov 18, 2012
Reality:

Don't you think it's the height of arrogance to assume that humans are the preferred species by some god that has killed off 90% of the speices on earth? And that we somehow are immortal? It's a nice fantasy, but really...
Reality Bites

Anderson, IN

#48224 Jan 5, 2013
Abbey Yoyo wrote:
Reality:
Don't you think it's the height of arrogance to assume that humans are the preferred species by some god that has killed off 90% of the speices on earth? And that we somehow are immortal? It's a nice fantasy, but really...
Why is it arrogant to believe what God says? It's not like I came up with the premise. We decided that we came about in some other way, but that in no way changes the reality of what God did and planned.

Why do people have a problem with God creating an angelic being that he gave free choice to... which he knew would choose evil? Creation is good, choosing evil is bad and the responsibility of the chooser.

God had a plan to deal with the sin that was unleashed on the world through man, and I trust Him. Maybe we need to seek understanding instead of tarnish what we don't know.

By the way, considering you are quoting Isaiah in an English translation, do you think that the translation of evil could be mistranslated? Do you know what Hebrew word was used and what the most common usage of that word is?
Doctor REALITY

United States

#48226 Jan 26, 2013
The REAL people of the Lord have the Words of Truth within them because what the Lord Jesus Christ has spoken is REAL,EVERLASTING 'TRUTH'.
Doctor REALITY

United States

#48230 Jan 27, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
The REAL people of the Lord have the Words of Truth within them because what the Lord Jesus Christ has spoken is REAL,EVERLASTING 'TRUTH'.
Just keepin' it REAL.
babysan

United States

#48231 Feb 14, 2013
My obsession began here, the first thread to get in my head and grip my life. Props!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#48232 Feb 14, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:

The REAL people of the Lord have the Words of Truth within them because what the Lord Jesus Christ has spoken is REAL,EVERLASTING 'TRUTH'.
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>Just keepin' it REAL.
To bad for ALL of those "real" people, when they only believe in a portion of what Jesus taught.

You are half-blinded.
babysan

United States

#48233 Feb 14, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Doctor REALITY wrote:
The REAL people of the Lord have the Words of Truth within them because what the Lord Jesus Christ has spoken is REAL,EVERLASTING 'TRUTH'.
<quoted text>
To bad for ALL of those "real" people, when they only believe in a portion of what Jesus taught.
You are half-blinded.
I second that emotion!
Interesting

Houston, TX

#48234 Feb 14, 2013
Quoting the 1st post:
""For THIS is GOOD AND ACCEPTABLE in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have ALL men ..… ALL men to be saved..." (I Tim. 2:3-4).

Christians say God WILL NOT have all men to be saved. Why? It goes against the Doctrines and Teachings of men.

"The Lord…is NOT WILLING that ANY should perish [eternally]…" (I Peter. 3:9).

Christians say God IS WILLING that some should perish. Why? Again, they follow the doctrines of men.

"This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God Who is the Saviour of ALL MEN specially [specially does not mean ‘exclusively’] of those that believe" (I Tim. 4:10).

NOTICE how god stated "worth of all acceptation". Notice he stated that in the first one too....nothing short of this is acceptable. Notice each time god stated All...not 5 percent. Notice in 1 Tim. 4:10 he says ALL MEN SPECIALLY of those that believe....he makes it clear that not only those that believe...ALL MEn.

"I, if I be lifted up from the earth, WILL draw ALL [Gk. "the" all] men unto me" (John 12:32).

Yes...again, he made it clear that he will draw ALL MEN. Christians do not accept this either. They tell us...in this thread that this is not true. They tell us that we are not all saved.

"For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified" (I Cor. 15:22)."

Unquote:
All of these are nice thoughts, but they are not automatic. They are null and void if we dont make Jesus the open door, and go through him, and put him first in our lives. We have to
REPENT and be sorry for the sins we have committed.

Poster, you are making it look like a person dont have to do anyting to go to Heaven.

We cannot be saved if we dont let him live in our hearts, and do what he commands us to do.
Sins are not automatically forgiven. You have to be born again! Unless you are born again, you cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.
babysan

United States

#48235 Feb 14, 2013
Thanks for sharing your mythology!
babysan

United States

#48236 Feb 14, 2013
beijair is my mentor. He occupies a large space in my brain. Please check out his comments. He taught me about my delusions.
Gut Stomper

United States

#48237 Feb 15, 2013
beijair in my head for years. The ultimate stomp!
babysan

United States

#48238 Feb 15, 2013
And how, girl!
beijair

United States

#48239 Feb 15, 2013
Welcome back.
babysan

United States

#48240 Feb 15, 2013
Daddy!

Since: Apr 10

Phoenix, Arizona

#48241 Feb 16, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>Just keepin' it REAL.
You never keep anything real. Shut up, ho.

Since: Mar 10

Trussville, Alabama

#48242 Feb 16, 2013
I wasn't around in '07. So this is the infamous thread that still evokes a visceral reaction in a certain poster? What a weirdo.
Reality Bites

Anderson, IN

#48243 Mar 1, 2013
Interesting wrote:
Quoting the 1st post:
""For THIS is GOOD AND ACCEPTABLE in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have ALL men ..… ALL men to be saved..." (I Tim. 2:3-4).
Christians say God WILL NOT have all men to be saved. Why? It goes against the Doctrines and Teachings of men.
"The Lord…is NOT WILLING that ANY should perish [eternally]…" (I Peter. 3:9).
Christians say God IS WILLING that some should perish. Why? Again, they follow the doctrines of men.
"This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God Who is the Saviour of ALL MEN specially [specially does not mean ‘exclusively’] of those that believe" (I Tim. 4:10).
NOTICE how god stated "worth of all acceptation". Notice he stated that in the first one too....nothing short of this is acceptable. Notice each time god stated All...not 5 percent. Notice in 1 Tim. 4:10 he says ALL MEN SPECIALLY of those that believe....he makes it clear that not only those that believe...ALL MEn.
"I, if I be lifted up from the earth, WILL draw ALL [Gk. "the" all] men unto me" (John 12:32).
Yes...again, he made it clear that he will draw ALL MEN. Christians do not accept this either. They tell us...in this thread that this is not true. They tell us that we are not all saved.
"For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified" (I Cor. 15:22)."
Unquote:
All of these are nice thoughts, but they are not automatic. They are null and void if we dont make Jesus the open door, and go through him, and put him first in our lives. We have to
REPENT and be sorry for the sins we have committed.
Poster, you are making it look like a person dont have to do anyting to go to Heaven.
We cannot be saved if we dont let him live in our hearts, and do what he commands us to do.
Sins are not automatically forgiven. You have to be born again! Unless you are born again, you cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.
And then there is what the Bible really says... because after all sinners don't want to let go of their sinful lives, correct? Sad that those that seek to avoid the real gospel of grace, repentance, belief in Jesus, and living by faith (which produces fruit), fail to perceive that most of what is in the New Testament letters are written to believers.

Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him. John 3:36

14 Strive for peace with everyone, and for the holiness without which no one will see the Lord. 15 See to it that no one fails to obtain the grace of God; that no “root of bitterness” springs up and causes trouble, and by it many become defiled; 16 that no one is sexually immoral or unholy like Esau, who sold his birthright for a single meal. 17 For you know that afterward, when he desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no chance to repent, though he sought it with tears. Hebrews 12:14-17
Reality Bites

Anderson, IN

#48244 Mar 1, 2013
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them,“You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bear fruit in keeping with repentance. Matthew 3:7-8

What wrath "that is to come"? I thought all men are going to be saved? Jesus must have forgotten that ALL men are going to be saved!

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