Chipley pastor among those assigned to Southern Baptist task force

A Chipley pastor was among 18 Southern Baptists assigned Wednesday to a task force designed to look into reasons behind the denomination's decline in numbers, and suggest ideas to reverse the trend.

[discocrisco]

Because America is becoming a secular, progressive nation. And people are rejecting your conservative beliefs

[Fact]

Today you can study THE ACTUAL YEAR when the religion started in the 1500 hundreds. It's a breakaway from Protestanism which is a breakaway from Catholicism. Baptists are not right in the head when it comes to their religion

[Abe Ibdeec]

Fact wrote:

Today you can study THE ACTUAL YEAR when the religion started in the 1500 hundreds. It's a breakaway from Protestanism which is a breakaway from Catholicism. Baptists are not right in the head when it comes to their religion

All of those churches (denominations) of today, that have 'incorporated' have abandoned there Biblical heritage and have allowed 'black robed judges' to become the masters of the modern churches, because all of those modern churches are "legal entities" thus making them practitioners of 'legalism'. Those churches have handed over their Christian heritage for the benefit of being recognized by the State Legalist Foundation known as the Judiciary. As 'corporations', they are bound by the 'secular law'(legalism), as opposed to the Ecclesiastic laws of God. Legalism has even provided itself with such things as doctrines, pleadings (prayers) written on documents handed to the Judges {pastors or ministers) while the lawyers act as deacons for this new world Church.

Legalism, first applied to a society, took place approximately in the year 400 BC and has been known as the founder of the concept of "Rule of Law"

Good luck to all of you young folk that are being led further away from Truth, because you prefer a church that allows the initiation of a new doctrine (if it feels good, do it). The Rock music makes you feel good, so you do it.

A NOTE to the Baptist group that are performing this evaluation: Encourage all the denominations to drop the denominal differences, and become re-united as a COMPLETE Body of Christ, instead of splinters that are scattered across a wide playing field of various beliefs. Go Back to the Word of God instead of the word of secularism.

Abe...

[chipley native]

maybe he can say a prayer for the football team!

[Tatter]

SOme times we can be so heavenly minded that we are no earthly good.

[Give me a break]

Abe Ibdeec wrote:

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All of those churches (denominations) of today, that have 'incorporated' have abandoned there Biblical heritage and have allowed 'black robed judges' to become the masters of the modern churches, because all of those modern churches are "legal entities" thus making them practitioners of 'legalism'. Those churches have handed over their Christian heritage for the benefit of being recognized by the State Legalist Foundation known as the Judiciary. As 'corporations', they are bound by the 'secular law'(legalism), as opposed to the Ecclesiastic laws of God. Legalism has even provided itself with such things as doctrines, pleadings (prayers) written on documents handed to the Judges {pastors or ministers) while the lawyers act as deacons for this new world Church.
Legalism, first applied to a society, took place approximately in the year 400 BC and has been known as the founder of the concept of "Rule of Law"
Good luck to all of you young folk that are being led further away from Truth, because you prefer a church that allows the initiation of a new doctrine (if it feels good, do it). The Rock music makes you feel good, so you do it.
A NOTE to the Baptist group that are performing this evaluation: Encourage all the denominations to drop the denominal differences, and become re-united as a COMPLETE Body of Christ, instead of splinters that are scattered across a wide playing field of various beliefs. Go Back to the Word of God instead of the word of secularism.
Abe...

Amen Abe,
Just understanding the word "denomination" lets us all know that many so called Christians, aren't followers of Christ, but are followers of men who have left the doctrine of Christ. If we all followed the teachings of Christ, then we would all wear the same name, "Christian", in its truest form. We would all teach the same thing. There would be no such thing as a Baptist, a Methodist, a Mormon, a Seventh Day Adventist, a Catholic, or a Presbyterian, all of whom can be traced back to a human founder such as John Smyth, John Wesley or Joseph Smith. All of these teach a different doctrine from the other. These religions are such, as a matter of convenience, and not a religion of truth. The differences that they hold in doctrine, teaches us that. Each one believes something different, are all of them correct in their beliefs? Impossible, there is only one true belief. The bible teaches clearly, that God is not an author of confusion. Yet, due to man’s selfish nature, is clearly NOT satisfied with Gods unadulterated word, and changes it to suit himself. I’ve listed two passages from the Bible, which I know many will say do not apply, that teach we should all strive to teach the same thing. Never-the-less, it is God’s inspired word through the apostle Paul, it is truth. The church was NOT founded by any man, or by any later day prophecy. Christ said in reply to Peter’s confession in Mark 8,“Upon this rock, I will build MY church”. To say any different would nullify the entire Bible and would leave man to his own devises, which in fact seems to be the order of the day, when you look at the many doctrines being taught today. We have a choice to study for ourselves, for the truth, instead being led away by false teachers, all who have a different view from each other and from Christ.

Eph 4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.KJV
Eph 4:14-15 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: KJV

[Give me a break]

Amen Abe,
Just understanding the word "denomination" lets us all know that many so called Christians, aren't followers of Christ, but are followers of men who have left the doctrine of Christ. If we all followed the teachings of Christ, then we would all wear the same name, "Christian", in its truest form. We would all teach the same thing. There would be no such thing as a Baptist, a Methodist, a Mormon, a Seventh Day Adventist, a Catholic, or a Presbyterian, all of whom can be traced back to a human founder such as John Smyth, John Wesley or Joseph Smith. All of these teach a different doctrine from the other. These religions are such, as a matter of convenience, and not a religion of truth. The differences that they hold in doctrine, teaches us that. Each one believes something different, are all of them correct in their beliefs? Impossible, there is only one true belief. The bible teaches clearly, that God is not an author of confusion. Yet, due to man’s selfish nature, is clearly NOT satisfied with Gods unadulterated word, and changes it to suit himself. I’ve listed two passages from the Bible, which I know many will say do not apply, that teach we should all strive to teach the same thing. Never-the-less, it is God’s inspired word through the apostle Paul, it is truth. The church was NOT founded by any man, or by any later day prophecy. Christ said in reply to Peter’s confession in Mark 8,“Upon this rock, I will build MY church”. To say any different would nullify the entire Bible and would leave man to his own devises, which in fact seems to be the order of the day, when you look at the many doctrines being taught today. We have a choice to study for ourselves, for the truth, instead being led away by false teachers, all who have a different view from each other and from Christ.

Eph 4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.KJV
Eph 4:14-15 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: KJV

[Tatter]

Abe I agree there are no true denominations but I will tell you that there will be people up there in heaven who have been those different denominations. Remember back in the biblical times Christian wasnt a awesome name to be called most then thought of it as an insult and a slur more than anything else. I am not AG I am a christian I beleive that Christ died for my sins thats it. You are right Denominations are a man made thing.

[Xcntrik InVidor]

Give me a break wrote:

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Amen Abe,
Just understanding the word "denomination" lets us all know that many so called Christians, aren't followers of Christ, but are followers of men who have left the doctrine of Christ. If we all followed the teachings of Christ, then we would all wear the same name, "Christian", in its truest form. We would all teach the same thing. There would be no such thing as a Baptist, a Methodist, a Mormon, a Seventh Day Adventist, a Catholic, or a Presbyterian, all of whom can be traced back to a human founder such as John Smyth, John Wesley or Joseph Smith. All of these teach a different doctrine from the other. These religions are such, as a matter of convenience, and not a religion of truth. The differences that they hold in doctrine, teaches us that. Each one believes something different, are all of them correct in their beliefs? Impossible, there is only one true belief. The bible teaches clearly, that God is not an author of confusion. Yet, due to man’s selfish nature, is clearly NOT satisfied with Gods unadulterated word, and changes it to suit himself. I’ve listed two passages from the Bible, which I know many will say do not apply, that teach we should all strive to teach the same thing. Never-the-less, it is God’s inspired word through the apostle Paul, it is truth. The church was NOT founded by any man, or by any later day prophecy. Christ said in reply to Peter’s confession in Mark 8,“Upon this rock, I will build MY church”. To say any different would nullify the entire Bible and would leave man to his own devises, which in fact seems to be the order of the day, when you look at the many doctrines being taught today. We have a choice to study for ourselves, for the truth, instead being led away by false teachers, all who have a different view from each other and from Christ.
Eph 4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.KJV
Eph 4:14-15 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: KJV

So, is your sect the correct sect?

[Xcntrik InVidor]

Tatter wrote:

Abe I agree there are no true denominations but I will tell you that there will be people up there in heaven who have been those different denominations. Remember back in the biblical times Christian wasnt a awesome name to be called most then thought of it as an insult and a slur more than anything else. I am not AG I am a christian I beleive that Christ died for my sins thats it. You are right Denominations are a man made thing.

Just like christianity is a man-made thing.

[Abe Ibdeec]

"Give me a break"

Thank you for those encouraging words. You are truly a Christian. May the Lord bless you and yours.

Abe...

[Tatter]

Xcntrik InVidor wrote:

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Just like christianity is a man-made thing.

The word Christian yes but the Bible and Jesus Christ being the Son of God no.

[Xcntrik InVidor]

Abe Ibdeec wrote:

"Give me a break"
Thank you for those encouraging words. You are truly a Christian. May the Lord bless you and yours.
Abe...

All christians are truly christians. That includes abortion clinic bombers and Fred Phelps.

[Abe Ibdeec]

Xcntrik InVidor wrote:

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Just like christianity is a man-made thing.

'Perception' is a device that is highly used by spiritual entities to cause men and women to see things that are not real. As an example. The courts in an early American case, declared that the court is an 'incorporeal entity'. That means that the 'court' does not have any body or appendages. Yet that 'court' has enough 'power' to cause it to impact the lives of men and women in physical ways.

Is Christianity 'man made'? In the same way that the courts declared itself to be 'incorporeal', and in the same way that the entity referred to as "Xcntrik InVidor" came into being. It would do you well to study the meaning of the word "incorporeal" and apply those meanings to even your real name. Where did Mom and Dad get my name? Where did my name come from? Out of that 'incorporeal' mind of someone.

Abe...

[Abe Ibdeec]

Xcntrik InVidor wrote:

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So, is your sect the correct sect?

Have I stated anywhere that I am professing any particular 'sect'. I think not. I am professing the written Word of God known in this day and age as the Holy Bible. I am also professing the ability of the Comforter to be able to provide to each of us the clear and unambiguous meaning of the scripture contained in that Holy Bible. I am professing, that Jesus did in fact sacrifice himself in order that I might at some point in my life, come to a clear, clean, understanding of WHO He is and how He works in my life. The Roman Government (Civil law government) declared Him to be King of the Jews. We still use Roman Civil Law today. So Yes! Jesus is my King, my Lord, my Saviour, the ONLY Potentate. Everything that was created will bow its' knees to the Name of Jesus. It will happen.

Abe...

[Abe Ibdeec]

Xcntrik InVidor wrote:

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All christians are truly christians. That includes abortion clinic bombers and Fred Phelps.

No! You are mistaken again. Just because a man or woman say they are Christian, does not make them a Christian. Nowhere in the scripture will you find such a teaching. On the other hand, you will find in 1 Corinthians 12:3 a passage which helps identify a Christian, and also in 1 John 4: 1 - 3 a similar 'test' can be found regarding how to identify a Christian. That last citation also carries an identifier of those that are not Christian.

Abe...

[Realistic Speaking]

Christians are followers of Christ. Catholics have have had representatives of Christ (Popes) since Christ died, there have been good popes and bad ones, but at least Catholicism has not changed over the centuries, it has remained the same since it was founded by the 12 disciples of Christ. It was founded then and it is still ongoing. Out of all denominations, this is the most accurate, think I will follow it till the end.

[Preacher]

Boy, do you need to do some research.

[Give me a break]

Xcntrik InVidor wrote:

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So, is your sect the correct sect?

I belong to no sect, nor denomination. I am a believer who follows no man; I follow no man made creed. I study the Bible for the truth. Everyone has the ability to understand for themselves, if they will study.

Would you agree that the concepts of sects are wrong? Jesus prayed that His disciples would be one just as He and His father are one.(John 17:19-21 "For their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they themselves also may be sanctified in truth.”I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word; that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.)

A sect, is in the strictest sense, is a heresy or division, and the apostle Paul, inspired of God wrote,(1 Cor 1:10) "Now I exhort you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all agree and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be made complete in the same mind and in the same judgment".

[Give me a break]

Realistic Speaking wrote:

Christians are followers of Christ. Catholics have have had representatives of Christ (Popes) since Christ died, there have been good popes and bad ones, but at least Catholicism has not changed over the centuries, it has remained the same since it was founded by the 12 disciples of Christ. It was founded then and it is still ongoing. Out of all denominations, this is the most accurate, think I will follow it till the end.

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be mean spirited, nor am I trying to be condescending. But, where in the whole of the bible can we find ANY denomination, being instituted by Christ or any of his apostles?

Please do not misuse Peters confession (Matt. 16:13-19), nor his discussion with Jesus as proof text showing him to be the first Pope.