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Sep 3, 2012
 
Read here...
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TI7...
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This thread should bring forth some interesting info, about what is truth and what is not.
corrupt...def:
....to change from good to bad in morals, manners, or actions.
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And the bibles words have been just that. Too many revised editions. Too many chefs spoil the soup.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_...
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http://www.bible-researcher.com/links02.html
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_translat...
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Now we have to see where it all started....
Biblical canon
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Jewish canon....
Rabbinic Judaism recognizes the twenty-four books of the Masoretic Text, commonly called the Tanakh or "Hebrew Bible". Evidence suggests that the process of canonization occurred between 200 BC and AD 200, indeed a popular position is that the Torah was canonized c. 400 BC, the Prophets c. 200 BC, and the Writings c. AD 100[5] perhaps at a hypothetical Council of Jamnia—however this position is increasingly criticised by modern scholars. The book of Deuteronomy includes a prohibition against adding or subtracting
{note: it was added and subtracted from.}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_canon#J...
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The books of the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) were relayed with an accompanying oral tradition passed on by each generation, called the Oral Torah.{ and that is where the corruption entered, through this accompanying of the oral law. Priests scribes and sages had the means and power to add their opinions to the writings,{the Talmud shows this clearly}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
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http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TC3US24...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanakh
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If God truly inspired the book, then why all the contradictions? Partial stories?
The truth has been corrupted by lies being written around it is what has transpired thru the ages concerning the text..
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Jerimiah 8:8
"How can you say,'We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us'? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made it into a lie."
http://bible.cc/jeremiah/8-8.htm
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Sep 3, 2012
 
Timesten wrote:
Read here...
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TI7...
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This thread should bring forth some interesting info, about what is truth and what is not.
corrupt...def:
....to change from good to bad in morals, manners, or actions.
.
And the bibles words have been just that. Too many revised editions. Too many chefs spoil the soup.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_...
.
http://www.bible-researcher.com/links02.html
.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_translat...
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Now we have to see where it all started....
Biblical canon
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Jewish canon....
Rabbinic Judaism recognizes the twenty-four books of the Masoretic Text, commonly called the Tanakh or "Hebrew Bible". Evidence suggests that the process of canonization occurred between 200 BC and AD 200, indeed a popular position is that the Torah was canonized c. 400 BC, the Prophets c. 200 BC, and the Writings c. AD 100[5] perhaps at a hypothetical Council of Jamnia—however this position is increasingly criticised by modern scholars. The book of Deuteronomy includes a prohibition against adding or subtracting
{note: it was added and subtracted from.}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_canon#J...
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The books of the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) were relayed with an accompanying oral tradition passed on by each generation, called the Oral Torah.{ and that is where the corruption entered, through this accompanying of the oral law. Priests scribes and sages had the means and power to add their opinions to the writings,{the Talmud shows this clearly}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
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http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TC3US24...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanakh
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If God truly inspired the book, then why all the contradictions? Partial stories?
The truth has been corrupted by lies being written around it is what has transpired thru the ages concerning the text..
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Jerimiah 8:8
"How can you say,'We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us'? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made it into a lie."
http://bible.cc/jeremiah/8-8.htm
God had a very important message for all of mankind, it was his MOST important message. How did he deliver this message and where? With texts. Confusing, contradictory, immoral,irrational, subject to numerous translations, who's contents, to most intelligent people, are obviously those of frighted old men. And where were these texts delved? To a thriving advanced culture like China? No, but rather to ignorant shepherds in a backward desert region.

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blacklagoon...
And what is your faith/denomination, if I might ask?

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Sep 3, 2012
 
Gee that was too much to ask for huh?
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Sep 3, 2012
 
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blacklagoon...
And what is your faith/denomination, if I might ask?
i am an anti-theist. Sorry I've been away.

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Sep 4, 2012
 
An antitheist is defined by the Oxford English Dictionary as "One opposed to belief in the existence of a god." The earliest citation given for this meaning is from 1833. An antitheist may be opposed to belief in the existence of any god or gods, and not merely one in particular.
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So you don't believe in in God, but you believe everything was created from nothing eh? That makes a lot of sense...
Let's see you create something....from nothing.

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Q'? If humans continue on their increase of learning as they have in the past 200 years, how smart will we be in say 200 or 2000 more years? Science can almost, up to date, now, create body parts and clone life forms. Don't you think it feasible that in a short more period of time, we will be able to create life's seeds.... for plants, animals and humans?
And once that is achieved, what would people living in time prior 1800 call these genius's? Wouldn't they liken them to gods, creating life?
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Now venture into 10,000 years or 100,000 years in the future, if humans can still survive, what will they be creating then?

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Sep 4, 2012
 
A fitting tune...
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Sep 4, 2012
 
Timesten wrote:
An antitheist is defined by the Oxford English Dictionary as "One opposed to belief in the existence of a god." The earliest citation given for this meaning is from 1833. An antitheist may be opposed to belief in the existence of any god or gods, and not merely one in particular.
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So you don't believe in in God, but you believe everything was created from nothing eh? That makes a lot of sense...
Let's see you create something....from nothing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =G_DV54ddNHEXX
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Q'? If humans continue on their increase of learning as they have in the past 200 years, how smart will we be in say 200 or 2000 more years? Science can almost, up to date, now, create body parts and clone life forms. Don't you think it feasible that in a short more period of time, we will be able to create life's seeds.... for plants, animals and humans?
And once that is achieved, what would people living in time prior 1800 call these genius's? Wouldn't they liken them to gods, creating life?
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Now venture into 10,000 years or 100,000 years in the future, if humans can still survive, what will they be creating then?
Everything created from nothing? Can you define nothing? Are you one of those who like to play the God of the gaps games? Something can't be readily explained so you plug in a fictitious being? Now does that make sense? Where did you ever get the idea that everything had to be created? And had to be created by "someone" or "something?" Abiogenesis, life from non-living matter requires NO CREATOR. The building blocks for life have already been created in the lab. A simplified explanation goes like this: Mix some chemicals in just the right proportions, subject it to the right amount of heat and pressure, then "zap" it with an electrical charge and "presto" AMINO ACIDS, the ingredients necessary for all life.

The top 5 ingredient in then universe are Hydogen--hellium--oxygen--nitr ogen--and carbon, the very same ingredient that we are made from. We are not special, we are made from the same "stuff" that stars are made from. Carbon, we are carbon based life, is the 4th most abundant ingredient in the universe. You can make more molecules form carbon, than all the others combined. Life on the Earth HAD to form, given the right ingredients, which are everywhere, it would be improbable that it didn't. Life may be INEVITABLE. Inevitable consequence of complex chemistry.

Here is your problem using the God of the gaps argument. As soon as you say GODDIDIT, it curtails all further investigation down that path. The second you accept the answer as the most plausible one with evidence, your journey is DONE!!! But, as soon as you say "I don't know, but lets see if we can find out." Thats when the real journey begins.
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Sep 4, 2012
 
It's hard for me to believe that it's God's word when the fact is that it was written and, more importantly, edited by man.
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Sep 4, 2012
 
Lawrence E. King, Jr., former Vice Chairman of Finance and Youth Advisor of National Black Republican Council (NBRC) of Omaha, Nebraska, sit at the pentacle and the eye of an elite blood oath pedophile and espionage ring that is cloaked, hidden behind smoked mirrors and the looking glass.[3]

NBRC is a sanctioned affiliate of the Republican National Committee. Within the circle and species of Black Republicans and the NBRC, King ran a secret child prostitution ring that serviced the political and business power elite of both Republican and Democratic parties.

King had been a very conservative, powerful and influential member of the National Republican Party. He had been appointed “Chairperson for the Black Voters” for the 1984 Republican National Reagan/Bush Presidential reelection campaign and “Chairmanship of the National Black Republican Council, Development Committee for Fund Raising.” He sang the National Anthem at the 1984 and 1988 Republican National Conventions.[4]

King also chaired the Council of Minority Americans, a nonprofit group that sponsored a $100,000 gala at the 1988 Republican convention in New Orleans. The host committee included former President Gerald Ford, Alexander Haig, and Jack Kemp. A ten-minute videotape featuring King and Jack Kemp, urging blacks to vote for George Bush, Sr., was shown at the gala.

King was also in charge of the Franklin Credit Union in Omaha. He was alleged to have operated a call-boy business in partnership with Harold Andersen, then publisher of the Omaha Herald, among many others. In 1987 he donated $25,350 to Citizens for America, an organization that arranged speaking tours around the country for Lt. Col. Oliver North of the National Security Council at the middle of Iran-Contra Scandal and CIA Crack Cocaine Trafficking in America.[5]

In 1988, federal authorities closed the Franklin Community Credit Union for investigation and mass theft, embezzlement, misappropriation and pillage of approximately $40 million.

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Sep 7, 2012
 
August wrote:
It's hard for me to believe that it's God's word when the fact is that it was written and, more importantly, edited by man.
Exactly..
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Sep 7, 2012
 
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Exactly..
You never responded to my post #91, so I take it you agree with me!
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Sep 7, 2012
 
Sorry, that was post #9
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Sep 7, 2012
 
Timesten wrote:
Read here...
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TI7...
.
This thread should bring forth some interesting info, about what is truth and what is not.
corrupt...def:
....to change from good to bad in morals, manners, or actions.
.
And the bibles words have been just that. Too many revised editions. Too many chefs spoil the soup.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_...
.
http://www.bible-researcher.com/links02.html
.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_translat...
.
Now we have to see where it all started....
Biblical canon
.
Jewish canon....
Rabbinic Judaism recognizes the twenty-four books of the Masoretic Text, commonly called the Tanakh or "Hebrew Bible". Evidence suggests that the process of canonization occurred between 200 BC and AD 200, indeed a popular position is that the Torah was canonized c. 400 BC, the Prophets c. 200 BC, and the Writings c. AD 100[5] perhaps at a hypothetical Council of Jamnia—however this position is increasingly criticised by modern scholars. The book of Deuteronomy includes a prohibition against adding or subtracting
{note: it was added and subtracted from.}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_canon#J...
.
The books of the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) were relayed with an accompanying oral tradition passed on by each generation, called the Oral Torah.{ and that is where the corruption entered, through this accompanying of the oral law. Priests scribes and sages had the means and power to add their opinions to the writings,{the Talmud shows this clearly}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TC3US24...
.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanakh
.
If God truly inspired the book, then why all the contradictions? Partial stories?
The truth has been corrupted by lies being written around it is what has transpired thru the ages concerning the text..
.
Jerimiah 8:8
"How can you say,'We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us'? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made it into a lie."
http://bible.cc/jeremiah/8-8.htm
Well we all know the lieing pen of the scribes but here is the kicker And I have said this to many sheeple but none understand that the creator is not A god man made him A god.his Name Is YHWH In short Yahweh he is not a god man changed his name.in the back of most king james in the concordance and any concordance strong s ect it read the words
lord
god
Baal
Elohim
were added to his name because the divine reverence of his name was believed to be to holy to be spoken so man changed his name to god the very thing he warns you not to worship.most can read this and never get it but I understand why only a few are called and chosen to even understand his name much less his laws. rev 12/9 say's it all....And it could be that the world when worshiping A man made god is worshiping Satan with out even knowing it.
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Sep 7, 2012
 
August wrote:
It's hard for me to believe that it's God's word when the fact is that it was written and, more importantly, edited by man.
I hear that alot his word to me his words are his laws the ones some dip shit nailed to a so called cross I think it was just A pole but their is 613 laws not just ten.without these laws we live in A giant sinful shit hole.And the reason for the end of the world is sin.

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<quoted text>You never responded to my post #91, so I take it you agree with me!
No I do not agree.
Explain in a brief how the solar system was created.... Of course you cannot prove your claims, but I will read it...Other atheists have told me nothing created it... What say you

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<quoted text>Well we all know the lieing pen of the scribes but here is the kicker And I have said this to many sheeple but none understand that the creator is not A god man made him A god.his Name Is YHWH In short Yahweh he is not a god man changed his name.in the back of most king james in the concordance and any concordance strong s ect it read the words
lord
god
Baal
Elohim
were added to his name because the divine reverence of his name was believed to be to holy to be spoken so man changed his name to god the very thing he warns you not to worship.most can read this and never get it but I understand why only a few are called and chosen to even understand his name much less his laws. rev 12/9 say's it all....And it could be that the world when worshiping A man made god is worshiping Satan with out even knowing it.
"his Name Is YHWH"

Who told you that?
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Sep 8, 2012
 
Timesten wrote:
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No I do not agree.
Explain in a brief how the solar system was created.... Of course you cannot prove your claims, but I will read it...Other atheists have told me nothing created it... What say you
Why do you people permit yourselves to remain willfully ignorant? Cosmologists have very strong models to account for the formation of the solar system, and a simple google search will produce a multitude of explanations. But since you appear to lazy to access this information, in simple terms: Huge clouds of gas and dust collapse because of intense gravity, when a dense knot of dust collapse it forms a protostar. This flattens into a spinning disk attracting more gas and dust and does so for thousands of years.Eventually the disk partially fragments and large pieces form giant planets like Saturn, or Jupiter, later in the process smaller earth-size planets take shape. The entire process is being watched by cosmologists in the M2 galaxy. Our galaxy has 500 solar systems with more being discovered every day. So scientists estimate it could contain as many as 100 billion solar systems. All formed the same way. No, and mythical being did NOT "create" the solar system in 6 days.

You have a preconceived notion as to how the solar system came to be, I can tell by the fact that you asked how the solar system was "CREATED."

Hefre we have a choice:

#1.) Cosmology has a very good understanding of how stars and planetary systems form. No, they do not have all the answers, but the observations and scientific models they have give a fairly clear picture of the process......or

#2.) A fictitious being for which there is not a shred of evidence, somehow,(know one has any idea as to how this was done) created not only our solar system, but trillions upon trillions of galaxies. It took him 6 days to create our planet, very slow works indeed. Once you extrapolate the number of planets contained in the countless quadrillions of galaxies, you come upon the fact that taking 6 days to create each planet would be simply impossible. He took 6 days to create lil old earth, but apparently a simple snap of his fingers created a star a million times the size of earth. What took so long with the earth? Oh, and I forgot to include in the extrapolation about creating quadrillions of planets, he has to rest every 7th day. Only an idiot of the highest order would accept such a lame ass explanation for the forming of the solar system.

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"Why do you people permit yourselves to remain willfully ignorant? Cosmologists have very strong models to account for the formation of the solar system,"

Models are man made and can produce any outcome the programmer wants to make it.
They have several models in Hurricanes also sometimes they are correct/close sometimes they are not.
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Let's start with the earth at it's beginning. How did it get here?
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the Bible maybe written and edited by man. but that does not mean there is no God. there is a God somewhere.

btw, i was a former atheist. but later i bacame a believer but a little skeptical. and lately, i become a true believer and not skeptical anymore.

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