Michael Jackson broke down racial barriers

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Michael Jackson was an international superstar, and many in the black community herald him for breaking down racial barriers in the music industry.
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Tina Turner, to me, is the greatest among female musicians. The Queen. She, Aretha and Janis are tops in general.
I think they got that screaming style of singing from Little Richard.

James Brown did that also, which resulted in high energy performances.

I don't hear anyone doing that before them.

It made its impact felt on Heavy Metal and Punk rock.

I wouldn't exactly call Tina Turner, Aretha Franklin or Janis Joplin musicians because they did not play instruments. It was their vocal style.
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Opps.

uninspired vocal....
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I think Janis Joplin's hero was Betsy Smith...

She was a female blues shouter of the twenties and thirties. I don't know much about her.

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I think they got that screaming style of singing from Little Richard.
James Brown did that also, which resulted in high energy performances.
I don't hear anyone doing that before them.
It made its impact felt on Heavy Metal and Punk rock.
I wouldn't exactly call Tina Turner, Aretha Franklin or Janis Joplin musicians because they did not play instruments. It was their vocal style.
Aretha played piano.:)

But yeah the other two didn't play instruments so I can recant that: they were vocalists.

Yeah all of them got it from Little Richard, but then he got it from elsewhere too (gospel singers and probably some blues singers who came before him). But most got the screams listening to Richard.
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Aretha played piano.:)
But yeah the other two didn't play instruments so I can recant that: they were vocalists.
Yeah all of them got it from Little Richard, but then he got it from elsewhere too (gospel singers and probably some blues singers who came before him). But most got the screams listening to Richard.
It was the highly inspired black gospel singing that dominated black churches in the south, which Elvis loved hearing as a child. I think it is a mixture of different styles woven together and it was just a matter of timing that people started recording it. Ray Charles could effectively do that style but did other styles as well. It goes way back. It just took the fifties to break it into the mainstream where all races could hear it being performed without the recording industry toning it down for mass pop exposure. Instead of being called race records played on black radio stations, the music begun to catch fire with white audiences and rock n roll was born. It just exploded into society and led to culture change. Music bringing people together indirectly. But was a powerful message that resulted in the civil rights era of the sixties.
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Aretha played piano.:)
But yeah the other two didn't play instruments so I can recant that: they were vocalists.
Yeah all of them got it from Little Richard, but then he got it from elsewhere too (gospel singers and probably some blues singers who came before him). But most got the screams listening to Richard.
I wasn't aware that Aretha Franklin played piano.
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I wasn't aware that Aretha Franklin played piano.
Yes, she did. She played a killer rendition of Chopsticks.
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Aretha played piano.:)
But yeah the other two didn't play instruments so I can recant that: they were vocalists.
Yeah all of them got it from Little Richard, but then he got it from elsewhere too (gospel singers and probably some blues singers who came before him). But most got the screams listening to Richard.
Little Richard and Jerry Lee Lewis are both wild piano players with two different vocal styles. Even though I love the rock sound of the sax and the piano, the guitar is what became the focus of the standard rock band format. For years the instruments were guitar, bass guitar, drums with the sax, piano often being secondary instruments in the band line up. I really don't know why that was but it probably had to do with the popularity of folk, country and blues with stripped down arrangements in the early sixties. But the sax is a great sound for rock n roll but it was not used like a guitar, which could be used in any rock style from rockabilly to punk. The guitar has retained a certain cool factor in the vision of the standand rock star. The instrument became the focus of what people wanted to play.

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I wasn't aware that Aretha Franklin played piano.
There's a lot of videos of her playing piano, just google "Aretha Franklin Brand New Me" or "Dr. Feelgood live" or "Bridge Over Troubled Water live". In fact she played piano in most of her recordings from her gospel album to her recent album. The songs in which she wrote the songs or had personal input in it feature her on piano.

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Little Richard and Jerry Lee Lewis are both wild piano players with two different vocal styles. Even though I love the rock sound of the sax and the piano, the guitar is what became the focus of the standard rock band format. For years the instruments were guitar, bass guitar, drums with the sax, piano often being secondary instruments in the band line up. I really don't know why that was but it probably had to do with the popularity of folk, country and blues with stripped down arrangements in the early sixties. But the sax is a great sound for rock n roll but it was not used like a guitar, which could be used in any rock style from rockabilly to punk. The guitar has retained a certain cool factor in the vision of the standard rock star. The instrument became the focus of what people wanted to play.
Chuck Berry truly helped to make that possible too.
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There's a lot of videos of her playing piano, just google "Aretha Franklin Brand New Me" or "Dr. Feelgood live" or "Bridge Over Troubled Water live". In fact she played piano in most of her recordings from her gospel album to her recent album. The songs in which she wrote the songs or had personal input in it feature her on piano.
I've heard of Aretha Franklin as the Queen Of Soul but my interest lies strictly with rock n roll bands, not Motown. I just did not realize she played piano.
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Chuck Berry truly helped to make that possible too.
Chuck Berry's riffs started the British Invasion.

Rock N Roll wasn't being watered down in England as it was in the United States. The demand for early rockers to play in England was greater by the late fifties, early sixties. That is why Gene Vincent and Eddie Cochran went across the pond to tour and appear on the BBC performing their early hits. Holy rollers in the US tried to ban the music and radio just wasn't playing rock as much. Instead, it became stale with clean cut, wholesome entertainment and manufactered pop acts like Fabain and Ricky Nelson.

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I've heard of Aretha Franklin as the Queen Of Soul but my interest lies strictly with rock n roll bands, not Motown. I just did not realize she played piano.
I got cha lol
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Whatever racial barriers MJ broke down, Obumbler has rebuilt them!
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I got cha lol
Growing up, I was exposed to Heavy Metal and Hard rock. It was the era of the rock guitar and the backlash against Disco. But it doesn't mean that I can not appreciate some Motown. It depends on the artist or group. I don't like it all but I never liked all the Heavy Metal groups either. I can go all over the board and am open to many different styles. Why be narrowminded?

The music today does suck though. It isn't worth listening to.

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Growing up, I was exposed to Heavy Metal and Hard rock. It was the era of the rock guitar and the backlash against Disco. But it doesn't mean that I can not appreciate some Motown. It depends on the artist or group. I don't like it all but I never liked all the Heavy Metal groups either. I can go all over the board and am open to many different styles. Why be narrowminded?
The music today does suck though. It isn't worth listening to.
I agree. In my opinion, music started getting intolerable around the boy band era- which has already been pointed out we can thank MJ for. Not much good has come out since, with the exception of an occasional track here and there.
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I agree. In my opinion, music started getting intolerable around the boy band era- which has already been pointed out we can thank MJ for. Not much good has come out since, with the exception of an occasional track here and there.
The grunge era came and went. And it just seems that the recording industry just goes for what they believe will sell. There is no creativity for artists to build up a following anymore. Sad, but true. Kids like boy bands, manufactured pop, rap. Adults like country or pre-programed MOR. What falls as rock today is reduced to just a selective group of acts. The recording industry sees Wacko as the future of pop music because of his sales. However, he was and always will be a hack.

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Whatever racial barriers MJ broke down, Obumbler has rebuilt them!
Nah. MJ actually helped to rebuilt them lol only people who don't believe in barriers won't listen to people who hold up barriers. ;)

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I agree. In my opinion, music started getting intolerable around the boy band era- which has already been pointed out we can thank MJ for. Not much good has come out since, with the exception of an occasional track here and there.
And MJ had a lot to do with that thanks to the Jackson 5 and his teen pop-influenced solo material afterwards. Off the Wall was his most adult album.

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Tina Turner, to me, is the greatest among female musicians. The Queen. She, Aretha and Janis are tops in general.
I agree about Tina. Nothing revs my cardio better then hearing the song "Your Simply The Best". That song is a classic!

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