Michael Jackson broke down racial barriers

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Michael Jackson was an international superstar, and many in the black community herald him for breaking down racial barriers in the music industry. Full Story

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#1716 Jul 23, 2013
TripleH1976 wrote:
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Joseph would tell Michael his nose was hideous when he was a boy, and that's why Michael butchered his nose to look like Judy Jetson's. He was never satisfied with the appearance, even though he had countless of surgeries done on it. Makes you wonder what type of look was he trying to achieve for his nose.
At first, he wanted his nose like Diana Ross'.
Then over time, he wanted it reshapen like Jackie Onassis' and then Liz Taylor's.
After a while, he wanted to have a Disney-esque Peter Pan nose.

Safe to say by the time his nose started to look really small, the foundation was all but destroyed.

“Why can't you share your bed?”

Since: May 13

Canada

#1718 Jul 23, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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True. I grew up with the MTV-era Tina Turner, i.e., the one who was dominating rock stadiums. It was amazing that her career had so many twists and turns as she did and it ended up making her a legend onstage.
She continues to sound as good as she did in the 80's. Her music never grows old on me.

“Why can't you share your bed?”

Since: May 13

Canada

#1719 Jul 23, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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At first, he wanted his nose like Diana Ross'.
Then over time, he wanted it reshapen like Jackie Onassis' and then Liz Taylor's.
After a while, he wanted to have a Disney-esque Peter Pan nose.
Safe to say by the time his nose started to look really small, the foundation was all but destroyed.
I know it looked horrendous. I don't understand why his surgeons didn't tell him to stop much earlier and avoid destroying. I find it hard to believe a surgeon would encourage more surgeries. It's typical of MJ not to listen to anyone.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#1720 Jul 23, 2013
He started his homosexual pedophile sex as a black man. Ended his homosexual pedophile sex as a white man. Michael Jackson could have been the president's son.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#1723 Jul 23, 2013
ChasUGC wrote:
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You know they say that people who are obsessed with pedophilia are actually pedophiles themselves. So, please stay away from children.
It's just like people who are obsessed with homosexuality. They are closet homosexuals. It takes one to know one, right?
You must be a pure full blown aids infested end of a roader. A man using a child for sex is despicable. Being that there was no shortage of your type villifying Catholic priests who were the same as MJ in the course of showing your contempt and tolerance for religion you sure as hell are getting snippy about this. Speaking about the dead is not my thing for the most part. But this man did weird things. How he could be so sophisticated in many aspects in life and then become a simpleton in controversial ones is something that we all have a right to question. Mother nature will fix all of this up as the economy continues to decline. Poverty breeds tyranny that breeds killing of people.

“Why can't you share your bed?”

Since: May 13

Canada

#1724 Jul 23, 2013
ChasUGC wrote:
The Michael Jackson obsession continues. HELLO!, its 2013, Now!! People have failed nose jobs all the time. Not even your surgery is sacred in this obsessed world. Poor guy, I think he is in a better place. Anything is better than what he had to deal with here on this earth. RIP MJ.
And in death Michael Jackson continues to be an accused child molester. HELLO!! If you want to witness the day us haters stop discussing your hero, tell your fellow fans to stop slandering Jackson's new accuser on Facebook.
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#1725 Jul 23, 2013
TripleH1976 wrote:
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I feel the same you do. I liked Michael for the better part of 80's and when he was a child with the Jackson 5. I did feel empathy and my heart went out to me because Joseph was an a-hole and Katherine was complicit in the abuse and never left him. But once I figured out Michael stepped over the line into the forbidden area. I couldn't feel empathy for him anymore. You do not abuse others, all because you were abused first. Plenty of child actors had terrible parents, but they found therapy. They cried out for help. Michael Jackson did ZERO of that.
That is because Michael never wanted help. He used the excuse of not having a childhood and the fact that Joseph mentally and physically abused him to molest children. Yet, he knew it was wrong because he went out of his way to cover things up. The clown desired child porn years ago and seeked out little boys from the beginning. He just became more bold as he got older and used his strange behavior as an excuse to blame the media for picking on him. It was very manipulative by using his fame to twist things around every which way. He developed a fake personality built around wanting to help children in order to be involved with them.

“Evolution is fab!”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#1726 Jul 23, 2013
ChasUGC wrote:
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You know they say that people who are obsessed with pedophilia are actually pedophiles themselves. So, please stay away from children.
Really, my gay friend?

But it was okay..........

That Michael Jackson (Wacko Jacko) spent a large part of his adult life enticing unrelated little boys into his bed?

That Michael Jackson (Wacko Jacko) spent hundreds (if not thousands) of one-on-one nights behind a motion sensor alarm door with unrelated little boys?

That Michael Jackson (Wacko Jacko) fitted the profile of an acquaintance molester?

That Michael Jackson (Wacko Jacko) had a collection of naked boy books recommended by NAMBLA?

That Michael Jackson (Wacko Jacko) had a nude photo of one the little boys he was sleeping with?

That Michael Jackson (Wacko Jacko) spent hours on the telephone to unrelated little boys?

That Michael Jackson (Wacko Jacko) was a dishonest man who had a history of compulsive lying?

That Michael Jackson (Wacko Jacko) was taking boys as young as 7 years old to his private bedroom for one-on-one sleepovers?

That Michael Jackson (Wacko Jacko) was telephoning one parent at 1:30 AM in the morning to have her son delivered to his bedroom?

That Michael Jackson (Wacko Jacko) spent around 400 nights in bed with one boy alone?

That Michael Jackson (Wacko Jacko) had distinctive markings accurately described on his penis by a 13-year-old boy?

That Michael Jackson (Wacko Jacko) was begging one mother to allow him to sleep with her child?

That Michael Jackson (Wacko Jacko) then rewarded that mother with expensive jewellery for allowing him to sleep with her son?

That Michael Jackson (Wacko Jacko) never once cooperated with police officials regarding the child molestation allegations but instead started hiring dodgy individuals?

That Michael Jackson (Wacko Jacko) kept a pair of soiled underpants belonging to one of the little boys, he was sleeping with?

That Michael Jackson (Wacko Jacko) never once allowed himself to face rigourous questioning in a court of law regarding his one-on-one sleepovers with unrelated little boys?

But let me guess, there's not even the slightest whiff of paedophilia when it comes to your precious Wacko Jacko, right?

“Evolution is fab!”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#1727 Jul 23, 2013
ChasUGC wrote:
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It's just like people who are obsessed with homosexuality. They are closet homosexuals. It takes one to know one, right?
Yes, it's a known fact that people who bash on homosexuality are in fact closet homosexuals themselves. That's why you fool nobody here, my gay friend.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#1728 Jul 23, 2013
What's gay about getting the truth about Michael Jackson? There's surely some accepted homophobia among the MJ crowd! Joe taught them well since he didn't like gays either and their hero was a self-hating gay man who didn't wanna be gay, he wanted to be a gay 12-year-old boy and abuse other 12-year-old boys except there's no such thing as homosexual pedophiles. Oops!

“Evolution is fab!”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#1729 Jul 23, 2013
Oh, I just remembered, ChasGAY. Your precious Wacko Jacko had male semen stains plastered all over his private bed. Let's see you dish out the homophobic insults now.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#1730 Jul 23, 2013
How about the fact that shortly after he settled out of court in 1994 that "fans" sent pictures of their boys in the nude to him to tell him it was okay if he slept with them? MJ's people had to destroy those pictures because he was still considered suspect. Interestingly people have forgotten THAT!
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#1731 Jul 23, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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True. I grew up with the MTV-era Tina Turner, i.e., the one who was dominating rock stadiums. It was amazing that her career had so many twists and turns as she did and it ended up making her a legend onstage.
Tina Turner bridged the gap between r & b and rock years before anybody else did. She played the Acid Queen in The Who's "Tommy" and appeared on stage supporting The Rolling Stones, often singing duets with Mick Jagger. Ike and Tina Turner were like the real deal as oposed to Sonny And Cher, which like Cher, Tina became much more successful on her own than with her ex husband. She had a sexy act and nice legs that she used to her advantage. I remember when her album "Private Dancer" came out in the early eighties and it hed inspired many women after her. Tina Turner rarely gets credit but she also broke down racial and sexual barriers that existed for women in pop/rock music before her. She claimed Ike abused her and broke free from him, only to become a bigger star as a solo artist.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#1732 Jul 23, 2013
Octopus wrote:
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Tina Turner bridged the gap between r & b and rock years before anybody else did. She played the Acid Queen in The Who's "Tommy" and appeared on stage supporting The Rolling Stones, often singing duets with Mick Jagger. Ike and Tina Turner were like the real deal as oposed to Sonny And Cher, which like Cher, Tina became much more successful on her own than with her ex husband. She had a sexy act and nice legs that she used to her advantage. I remember when her album "Private Dancer" came out in the early eighties and it hed inspired many women after her. Tina Turner rarely gets credit but she also broke down racial and sexual barriers that existed for women in pop/rock music before her. She claimed Ike abused her and broke free from him, only to become a bigger star as a solo artist.
And the funny thing was WITH Ike, she was already bridging the gap between rock and R&B if you really think about it. Tina had been more edgier than R&B as R&B was turning a little softer and more romantic and more pop-based (Motown, Stax in some ways though it still had a Southern grit about it). Then she really bridged it when she and Ike did great covers of rock tunes. Once Tina broke through, her breakthrough on rock radio and MTV and stadiums was complete. But yeah she hardly gets the credit. If anyone should be credited for breaking down "racial barriers" in music, it should be Tina Turner (with Ike and without Ike).
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#1733 Jul 23, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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True. I grew up with the MTV-era Tina Turner, i.e., the one who was dominating rock stadiums. It was amazing that her career had so many twists and turns as she did and it ended up making her a legend onstage.
Tina Turner made one of the biggest comebacks in rock history and it was captured on MTV in the early eighties with her smash hit, "What's Love Got To With It" But what is fascinating is how her earlier music holds up against other rockers in history. Classics like "River Deep, Mountain High" and "Proud Mary"
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#1734 Jul 23, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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And the funny thing was WITH Ike, she was already bridging the gap between rock and R&B if you really think about it. Tina had been more edgier than R&B as R&B was turning a little softer and more romantic and more pop-based (Motown, Stax in some ways though it still had a Southern grit about it). Then she really bridged it when she and Ike did great covers of rock tunes. Once Tina broke through, her breakthrough on rock radio and MTV and stadiums was complete. But yeah she hardly gets the credit. If anyone should be credited for breaking down "racial barriers" in music, it should be Tina Turner (with Ike and without Ike).
Unlike Janis Joplin, Tina Turner survived. Her groundbreaking music is everywhere within female pop artists today. Only Tina doesn't use fake public relations ploys to build herself up. The music stands on its own. Of course, Tina is now in her seventies and very few people talk about her but she has broken down many barriers without really thinking about it. She is more rock n roll than r & b because she played to a rock audience. The gritty performances only helps her solid legacy for women in the music business of all races. An amazing achievement in my book. Cher is another legend but Tina is just as important.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#1735 Jul 23, 2013
Octopus wrote:
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Tina Turner made one of the biggest comebacks in rock history and it was captured on MTV in the early eighties with her smash hit, "What's Love Got To With It" But what is fascinating is how her earlier music holds up against other rockers in history. Classics like "River Deep, Mountain High" and "Proud Mary"
Yep. "River Deep Mountain High" is considered a rock and roll classic. Her version of "Proud Mary" is still legendary after 40-plus years. Also let's not forget her earlier blues rock classics with Ike in her early career ("Fool in Love", with probably one of the greatest vocal introductions in music history; "It's Gonna Work Out Fine", and "I Idolize You"). So her music always stood out as much as her performances have. Just an all out legendary woman. She became the rock and roll goddess that Etta James, Janis Joplin and Aretha Franklin got close to being but never got close (except Janis, who would've been a goddess had heroin not killed her).

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#1736 Jul 23, 2013
Octopus wrote:
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Unlike Janis Joplin, Tina Turner survived. Her groundbreaking music is everywhere within female pop artists today. Only Tina doesn't use fake public relations ploys to build herself up. The music stands on its own. Of course, Tina is now in her seventies and very few people talk about her but she has broken down many barriers without really thinking about it. She is more rock n roll than r & b because she played to a rock audience. The gritty performances only helps her solid legacy for women in the music business of all races. An amazing achievement in my book. Cher is another legend but Tina is just as important.
Tina Turner, to me, is the greatest among female musicians. The Queen. She, Aretha and Janis are tops in general.
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#1737 Jul 23, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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Yep. "River Deep Mountain High" is considered a rock and roll classic. Her version of "Proud Mary" is still legendary after 40-plus years. Also let's not forget her earlier blues rock classics with Ike in her early career ("Fool in Love", with probably one of the greatest vocal introductions in music history; "It's Gonna Work Out Fine", and "I Idolize You"). So her music always stood out as much as her performances have. Just an all out legendary woman. She became the rock and roll goddess that Etta James, Janis Joplin and Aretha Franklin got close to being but never got close (except Janis, who would've been a goddess had heroin not killed her).
Aretha Franklin is a powerhouse also. But rock n roll has always been soaked in r & b, blues and gospel and welcomed everyone to take part. It is colorblind and both men and women could successfully create the music without limitations. You could go in any direction you wanted in rock n roll. And I think it started with the blues as a foundation, which everything evolved from. In reality, if you were great then, people can still hear the passion in the performances. It isn't always about selling the most. It is about doing music that is so powerful that other generations can feel the personal meaning of the songs themselves. True talent survives because it is superior. It is done from deep within the heart. That doesn't always happen with every artist. Pop music is mostly junk, which is only popular over the short term. A legend will stand the test of time and never fade away. It wouldn't need hype like Michael Jackson. He did it because he knew he needed it to stay current. A true artist will just let the music do the talking because that is what it is all about. The music stands the test of time, waiting for people to rediscover the passionate performances that came deep within the soul. Michael had none. It was just bubble gum pop with new beats tacked over a uninpired vocal.
neutral observer

Lake Worth, FL

#1738 Jul 23, 2013
How did Michael Jackson break down racial barriers? So ashamed of being a black boy he had himself transformed into an ugly white woman with a melting face though bleaching and plastic surgery.

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