Michael Jackson broke down racial bar...

Michael Jackson broke down racial barriers

There are 1560 comments on the CNN story from Jun 28, 2009, titled Michael Jackson broke down racial barriers. In it, CNN reports that:

Michael Jackson was an international superstar, and many in the black community herald him for breaking down racial barriers in the music industry.

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#1677 Jul 19, 2013
socci wrote:
MJ was certainly told to bleach his skin and undergo plastic surgery to appear with white racial features since at the time black music was not pop.
Then once rap or hip hop took off and the white kids started dressing and acting like the blacks, MJ was no longer politically correct. He had to be eliminated.
Same was earlier true of other entertainers including Elvis. He was partially a Gospel Singer.
Thru pop-culture society has been social-engineered to bring in president Obama, and subjugate the majority white American population who happen to be Protestant.
There's a death cult running Hollywood. There are many films about this. One of the more popular: They Sold Their Souls for Rock n Roll.
That's an insane. There were famous black singers before MJ and nobody told him to bleach his skin. If that were the case, why did he continue until the day he died? And nobody in their right mind would tell him to have that crazy series of plastic surgeries that he underwent way after rap took off.

Your theory on Obama is insane too.

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#1678 Jul 19, 2013
**theory**. That's an insane theory.

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#1679 Jul 19, 2013
MJisGUILTY wrote:
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That's an insane. There were famous black singers before MJ and nobody told him to bleach his skin. If that were the case, why did he continue until the day he died? And nobody in their right mind would tell him to have that crazy series of plastic surgeries that he underwent way after rap took off.
Your theory on Obama is insane too.
Funny when Marvin Gaye became one of the most successful artists of the 1970s, he didn't feel compelled to bleach his skin as he obviously was proud of who he was (why else would 2Pac say in his song, "I remember Marvin Gaye used to sing to me, he had me feeling like black was the thing to be"). But we're supposed to believe MJ bleached his skin because of some "conspiracy with whitey"? GET OUT OF HERE. Michael did that on his own because he had self-hate issues.

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#1680 Jul 19, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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Funny when Marvin Gaye became one of the most successful artists of the 1970s, he didn't feel compelled to bleach his skin as he obviously was proud of who he was (why else would 2Pac say in his song, "I remember Marvin Gaye used to sing to me, he had me feeling like black was the thing to be"). But we're supposed to believe MJ bleached his skin because of some "conspiracy with whitey"? GET OUT OF HERE. Michael did that on his own because he had self-hate issues.
I know that's right! Great point about 2Pac, too! Heck yeah, Marvin Gaye was black and proud! Many, if not all, other successful black recording artists, had and have successful careers without bleaching their damn skin! That's just whack! F'loons will dream up the most HEINOUS comments to defend MJ, this on one of them! lol! He obviously hated being in his own skin, hence why he bleached it. And the surgeries? lmao, he clearly had self image issues and to most sane folks in society he was intent on looking like a white woman come hell or high water!:-O

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#1681 Jul 19, 2013
MJisGUILTY wrote:
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I know that's right! Great point about 2Pac, too! Heck yeah, Marvin Gaye was black and proud! Many, if not all, other successful black recording artists, had and have successful careers without bleaching their damn skin! That's just whack! F'loons will dream up the most HEINOUS comments to defend MJ, this on one of them! lol! He obviously hated being in his own skin, hence why he bleached it. And the surgeries? lmao, he clearly had self image issues and to most sane folks in society he was intent on looking like a white woman come hell or high water!:-O
As Katt Williams said, he spent his whole life trying to be a white woman until he gets in trouble and all of a sudden professes he's black.

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#1682 Jul 19, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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I mean why wait all those years to say you were molested? It seems calculating. Even Tito was shocked by that. Tito's son is over 30. Who knows how many brothers Dee Dee had but he was always around his father's side of the family, not his mother's! That should tell you all you need to know about his statement.
There's also that story that Michael molested Jermaine's son Jourdynn and authorities had even wanted to interview the boy's mother (Margaret) who denied it because of what Jourdynn had told her. I think Michael slept with Jourdynn (and younger brother Jeremy).
He obviously wasn't close to his darker-skinned relatives (Rebbie's kids - one of them, Stacy, was seen trying to run away from MJ when MJ was grabbing her trying to get her to talk, it was from one of the Jacksons' home videos when they visited Rebbie in her Tennessee home; Jermaine's other kids didn't recall MJ being that affectionate; Jackie's son Dealz; Randy's kids, Marlon's kids, etc.) but the lighter-skinned mixed ones (Jourdynn, Jeremy, all of Tito's three sons, Simone, Rijo, and possibly Brandi - there's a shot of "uncle Michael" bouncing a 7-year-old Brandi up and down his knee, ironically enough Brandi looks like she could be Joe's child with another woman and Jackie adopted her to cover up a possible scandal) caught his fancy.
I think Tito was shocked because he knows it was Michael who molested his son...who is benefiting greatly from Katherine. I didn't realize Jourdynn may have been molested, by Michael. Where did you hear the story? It wouldn't surprise me. Michael did like a certain look to children he preyed on, and the relatives' young children he chose had that look.

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#1683 Jul 19, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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Funny when Marvin Gaye became one of the most successful artists of the 1970s, he didn't feel compelled to bleach his skin as he obviously was proud of who he was (why else would 2Pac say in his song, "I remember Marvin Gaye used to sing to me, he had me feeling like black was the thing to be"). But we're supposed to believe MJ bleached his skin because of some "conspiracy with whitey"? GET OUT OF HERE. Michael did that on his own because he had self-hate issues.
Amen.

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#1684 Jul 19, 2013
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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I think Tito was shocked because he knows it was Michael who molested his son...who is benefiting greatly from Katherine. I didn't realize Jourdynn may have been molested, by Michael. Where did you hear the story? It wouldn't surprise me. Michael did like a certain look to children he preyed on, and the relatives' young children he chose had that look.
It's in Margaret's book, "Jackson Family Values". Authorities had called her after Jourdynn and Jeremy returned home from "time with uncle Mikey" about the alleged video. Margaret claimed there wasn't such a video. Oddly she praised Michael but dissed most of the other Jacksons (especially Daddy Dearest Jermaine).

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#1685 Jul 19, 2013
The only racial barriers MJ broke down was the barrier to little whites boys underwear.

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#1686 Jul 19, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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As Katt Williams said, he spent his whole life trying to be a white woman until he gets in trouble and all of a sudden professes he's black.
lol, that Katt Williams skit had me laughing so hard I damn near spit out my drink! "Don't you climb trees"?..."No, mo'fo, we got bills and shit!"! lmao!!! He was spot on the entire time! Chris Rock got a funny one too bro, lol

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#1687 Jul 19, 2013
SIR LANCELOT wrote:
The only racial barriers MJ broke down was the barrier to little whites boys underwear.
lmao!!!!!!!!!! For some reason, I can only judge comments occasionally on topix, was trying to judge yours as funny. Wish there were a hilarious tab too :P

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#1688 Jul 19, 2013
MJisGUILTY wrote:
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lol, that Katt Williams skit had me laughing so hard I damn near spit out my drink! "Don't you climb trees"?..."No, mo'fo, we got bills and shit!"! lmao!!! He was spot on the entire time! Chris Rock got a funny one too bro, lol
"I'm f***ing done with Michael. What the f**k? Another kid?! That's like another dead white girl showing up at OJ's house. And OJ going 'I know what you thinkin'!"

Loved how he attacked MJ's court wear: "and he don't even wear a real suit to court, coming in there looking like Captain Crunch. Shit who's your lawyer? Franken Berry? Better take your black ass to a Banana Republic and get you a decent suit." lol
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#1689 Jul 20, 2013
He did break down the racial barriers he love young boys black white Asian and Mexican young and tender . He was a sick fu ck that should have OD a long time ago

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#1690 Jul 20, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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"I'm f***ing done with Michael. What the f**k? Another kid?! That's like another dead white girl showing up at OJ's house. And OJ going 'I know what you thinkin'!"
Loved how he attacked MJ's court wear: "and he don't even wear a real suit to court, coming in there looking like Captain Crunch. Shit who's your lawyer? Franken Berry? Better take your black ass to a Banana Republic and get you a decent suit." lol
lmao! Yep, those are the parts I was lmao!!! And when he said "When MJ goes to jail it's gonna be a sad sight. Not even the day he checks into jail, I'm talkin bout a month later, when his perm grows out of his hair, it grows back all nappy and gray and he don't got the Crayola people to come fix his face no more, sad ass sight".... lmao!!!

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#1691 Jul 20, 2013
MJisGUILTY wrote:
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lmao! Yep, those are the parts I was lmao!!! And when he said "When MJ goes to jail it's gonna be a sad sight. Not even the day he checks into jail, I'm talkin bout a month later, when his perm grows out of his hair, it grows back all nappy and gray and he don't got the Crayola people to come fix his face no more, sad ass sight".... lmao!!!
I love that part too lol

I lost it when he got to discuss Jermaine though haha

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#1692 Jul 21, 2013
MJisGUILTY wrote:
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Right on! I read Wikipedia's version of events and it's obviously been edited by f'loons. That site can only be taken with a grain of salt. I was stunned in college to see the number of classmates that didn't know that anybody can add information to Wikipedia, be it factual or not, and that was years back. Shoot, my professors would immediately fail papers that used Wiki to cite research info. Whoever added the info on MJ conveniently left out all evidence that reveals his guilt. YouTube f'loons actually use Wiki as a source of "facts", lol.
Wikipedia has been sued in the past, by public people who have claimed there was libellous information in there articles. It meant Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia founder, had to establish some new and stringent rules regarding biographies of public people. F'loons direct me to wikipedia as well. They know the information is in Michael Jackson's favour.
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#1693 Jul 21, 2013
I think it was really Ray Charles and then Stevie Wonder that broke down racial barriers. But it was more complex than just focusing on one artist. It wasn't obviously something that happened over night but to give Jacko total credit in the MTV era is quite a fairytale. Musical Youth, Eddie Grant were played on MTV way before Michael Jackson's Thriller. Floons do not like hearing that Jacko lied about MTV not playing his videos because he was black. After all, they had a black VJ, JJ Jackson.

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#1694 Jul 21, 2013
Octopus wrote:
I think it was really Ray Charles and then Stevie Wonder that broke down racial barriers. But it was more complex than just focusing on one artist. It wasn't obviously something that happened over night but to give Jacko total credit in the MTV era is quite a fairytale. Musical Youth, Eddie Grant were played on MTV way before Michael Jackson's Thriller. Floons do not like hearing that Jacko lied about MTV not playing his videos because he was black. After all, they had a black VJ, JJ Jackson.
I actually think the first group of artists that broke barriers in terms of genres that blurred color lines include not only artists like Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and Ray Charles but also entrepreneurs like Alan Freed, Dick Clark and, in the 1960s, Berry Gordy. And then you had the entire Motown empire of the mid-1960s, the Stax label of the same time period (Otis Redding, Sam & Dave), Ike & Tina Turner in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gaye became a favorite of rock music stations and magazines in the 1970s though Gaye's music stayed gritty R&B/soul. Then you have Diana Ross and the Philly Soul era and disco later in the 1970s.

On MTV, Tina Turner's video for "Ball of Confusion" (it was with a British group Heaven 17 I believe) was played in 1982. Gary U.S. Bond, a 1960s rock and roller broke through with "This Little Girl" in either 1981 or 1982 and he's black (and that song was produced by Bruce Springsteen).

The Bus Boys had videos played on MTV (a black rock group). Musical Youth and Shalamar were also played on MTV and they were the first two black non-rock acts played on there (Musical Youth being reggae and Shalamar pop/R&B) and from what I can recall they were both giving heavy rotation. Joan Armatrading, a black folk rock musician from the UK was also played on MTV during the pre-Michael Jackson era. Stevie Wonder was seen on MTV in a video of his duet with Paul McCartney ("Ebony and Ivory").

Then we have Marvin Gaye who got played on MTV with "Sexual Healing" in late 1982, early 1983 and Prince's videos for "1999" and "Little Red Corvette" were played well before MJ. Then Herbie Hancock (who was obviously shown on his "Rockit" video) and Eddy Grant's "Electric Avenue". Bob Marley was also played on MTV in the early years and he was really popular with white suburban kids before and after his death (still is).

By the time CBS presented Michael's "Billie Jean" in March of 1983, MTV not only agreed but aired it almost immediately. MTV's words were "this video was exciting and 'Billie Jean' was on its way to number one plus Michael Jackson was the top artist of his time so we were anxious to air it immediately". So I don't know where Jacko and Walter Yetnikoff get the idea that it was racial when black artists (both from the U.S. and outside of the country) were not only played on MTV but played often. MJ got played immediately because he was "exciting" and they knew MJ was popular with white suburban kids by then. He wasn't an R&B artist, he was always a pop singer to the media even during the J5 era. My guess is that guilt trip people want to make it a racial issue when there was almost none to be had.

And as for MJ breaking barriers with playing rock stadiums and arenas... I got two words: Tina Turner.
Octopus

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#1695 Jul 21, 2013
I agree.

But I will say that Michael Jackson made artists and their record companies spend a lot more on their music videos. But even that proves to be a bit off the mark because Duran Duran's "Hungry Like The Wolf"

It came out before Michael Jackson and filmed like a movie.

MTV was great but it was originally set up to push New Wave music, which had no radio format in the US before MTV. They played a little of everything. Even bands like Rush in concert.

MTV was a new format in the eighties so they were testing the waters...

I didn't watch it and say, "There is a black guy"

I liked it because it was music played on TV.

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#1697 Jul 21, 2013
Octopus wrote:
I agree.
But I will say that Michael Jackson made artists and their record companies spend a lot more on their music videos. But even that proves to be a bit off the mark because Duran Duran's "Hungry Like The Wolf"
It came out before Michael Jackson and filmed like a movie.
MTV was great but it was originally set up to push New Wave music, which had no radio format in the US before MTV. They played a little of everything. Even bands like Rush in concert.
MTV was a new format in the eighties so they were testing the waters...
I didn't watch it and say, "There is a black guy"
I liked it because it was music played on TV.
Basically. Duran Duran were pioneers of music video, something that in the midst of "Michaelmania" nowadays gets overlooked (just like Frankie Lymon & the Teenagers' barrier breaking success as a doo-wop vocal group that had pop success is overlooked thanks to the Jackson 5). Even MJ getting credit for changing the video format is not actually accurate. All he did was bring the musicals to music videos. Only part people repeated was the in-line dancing from "Beat It" onwards but that was about it, I think.

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