Gary, you wouldn't put Words in Jesus' mouth would you?Dear all:
I am sorry but Saban is not teaching the true gospel here he is teaching a works gospel and I have shown him what he said himself that the only way he was saved was by the word and the Spirit that was it!
However, what happens when one comes with their own agenda they will try to bring their works with them as being dunked into some water saves one by the work in what he did and it is a work that is a fact,
The word tells us we are saved by grace, now grace means [unmerited favor] what this means, it was all the work of God minus the work of man it was all freely given at the great cost in what Christ Jesus did not what we do no way!
This works gospel is the same gospel as in, Matthew 7:22-23
God warns us in these verses many will think they are saved by what they have done the [key words] in those verses is [have WE not done] you see it was all based on man's work not on the grace of God and the Lord will say to those self righteous people I never knew you, you the WORK WICKEDNESS! Jesus called these works, works of wickedness.
"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, HAVE WE NOT prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS? And then WILL I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from me, YOU THAT WORK INIQUITY." Matthew 7:22-23
This is a severe warning to all those thinking that they can do some work even a [wonderful work] as in this verse Jesus looks upon these so called [wonderful works] as water baptized, accepting Jesus, going to a church, tithing, and on and on it goes nobody really knows how much they add to the work of salvation but sad to say MANY will be shocked in that day because they put their trust in the church, pastor, pope, Rabi, and on and on it goes, everything but the living word of God.
This is why out of true love and concern for these dear souls I will share with them just the word not what the church is teaching or any man but what saith the word! Jesus said this is what will judge us. Jesus said I will not judge you but the one that will judge you is the words I speak they shall judge you on that last day. God tells us only the scriptures are able to make one wise unto salvation, 2 Tim. 3:15.
The unsaved loved to put [self] into the equation of the work of salvation when Jesus plainly said:
And Jesus answered and said unto them, This is THE WORK OF GOD THAT YOU BELIEVE ON HIM whom He hath sent." John 6:29
Question, where doe it state anywhere that salvation is some work that man does? It does not and anyone telling you different is as false as a three dollar bill. Have you ever cashed in a three dollar bill in lately? Jesus warns us and He said, "Behold, I have told you before. Matthew 24:25. Do not be tricked into these do it your self, have it your way, self help gospels they are a dime a dozen sad to (removed) Gary
Saying "Jesus looks upon these so called [wonderful works] as water baptized, accepting Jesus, going to a church, tithing, and on and on" as those that work iniquity.?.?.? You say "Jesus called these works works of wickedness"?
Have you ever considered that Matt. 7:22-23 means the exact opposite of what you think?
Because YOU haven't followed His commandment to be baptized and your teaching others wrong ideas about Salvation, perhaps you are the one being addressed. He tells His disciples to baptize and you quickly, loudly and forcefully refute that...
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Perhaps you've elevated yourself to his level Gary. You seem to be the judge and jury over the matter.