You've effectively skipped over many of my posts. And, the post you just responded to you did not answer:Hi Saban:
The problem with this conclusion Saban is, we are not Jesus. You have asked me many questions and I tried to answer you the best I have.
Now the main problem your having Saban not being rude at all here but just to encourage you in the word. The problem is this, you believe all mankind is born without sin they are sinless, This error is so major it leads one in other error.
For example, if all babies were born sinless and I have shown from the word this is not the case, but lets just say they were born sinless this would mean they would need no salvation, This would mean they do not have to be born again, this would mean it would be better if all babies die because when they grow up they become an enemy of God, you would sure their salvation if they all died as babies. What about God's judgment in the flood there were many woman, men, and babies under the judgment, what about the cites of Sodom? Same thing, I can go on and on with example after example but it is fruitless unless God reveals these basic truth's to you Saban I cannot do this it must come from the Lord.
THE FACT IS SABAN, THE WORD IS CLEAR THAT WE ALL HAVE SINNED AND COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD.
You truly do not understand this either because your church taught you otherwise and your blinded by your churches teaching or your pastor. God simply is not showing you this most basic foundational truth. Saban, all I can say is look at all those verses I gave you and try to explain them in the light of the Bible showing that there is not one that will seek after God no not one! Romans 3:10-12. God tells us in Psalm, 58 that we ARE WICKED AND go astray as soon as we are born.
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This is why when I asked you concerning the thief on the cross what different gospel was he under that was different then grace through faith? How many different salvations does the Bible speak of? There is only one Saban this is why you could not answer my question. All that I can say is, get your eyes off your churches teaching and look only to the word salvation is far to important TO PUT YOUR TRUST IN ANY MAN OR CHURCH. I am sorry Saban you first must be able to come to grips with the core foundation before we can go any further if you do not have the foundation then there is no sense to move on until you come to understand those basic truth's I am sorry to say. I hope the very best for you and will be praying for you. Thank you. Gary. 1 John 3:13-15
Many times Jesus himself answered questions with questions. Was he dodging the issue? Was he avoiding the question? Was he clouding the issue? No, no and no.
Who is effectively clouding the issue by starting the conversation all over, Gary? You said the only one's born without sin were Adam and Eve. I COMPLETELY disagree! The Bible emphatically tells us that we do not inherit our father's sins. But what about Jesus? Based on what you've said, He Himself must ave been born with sin although the scriptures tell us he had no sins.
Your comment about "if babies were born sinless.." is correct. But based on what you're selling, if a newborn dies its eternal destruction is secure if they die as innocent infants. How can it be in sin when it cannot know or understand sin? We are innocent until we understand. This is the point to which we are called to repent and obey the gospel.
I'll make 1 more correction to your falsehoods. I don't have "a pastor". We are organized the same way the 1st century church was organized. This means we have several pastors (elders) that manage the local congregation. They meet the biblical requirements. We have deacons that meet the biblical requirenents. And, we have one or more preachers. Besides Jesus Christ, we have no authority we answer to outside of the local congregation.
If you would follow the word, in context, you would do the same.