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#31658 Jul 4, 2013
Dr shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
wrong
word all people doesn't point to people atheists,or sinfull people being rapture by devil spirit of immorality gal 5;17-21
you don't know Bible at all,
look at Eph 1;2-12.2;8-9 and prayer of jesus for those few given Him by His Father as free gift
if Forget Paul,
also look what Jesus said John 17..whole chapter.John 16;15.1 john 5;19
1 Peter 3;22
Jesus didn't die for this world under rulership of Evin Spirit
Jesus Die for His created world of rigtheouess ones and few chosen ones
WW.leanr basics of Jesus Gospels, only blindness can blind your eyes rejecting Paul harmonious letters agout JESU SALVATION
I doubt that God will accept your word"Forget Paul" and save you because you say so???
Paul is the least authoriative writer in the Bible. In fact, Paul is a confused and deeply flawed individual which comes out in much of the opinions he expounded.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#31659 Jul 4, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Paul is the least authoriative writer in the Bible. In fact, Paul is a confused and deeply flawed individual which comes out in much of the opinions he expounded.
According to Paul's own Epistles in the bible:

Paul never once quotes a single thing in "The Gospels".
Paul never quotes Jesus.
Paul admits to never meeting Jesus (contradicting the fabrication in Luke)
Paul places his opinion above "Angels sent from God'.
Paul knows nothing about Jesus other than the "resurrection".
Paul knows nothing about Judaism.
Paul claims to be Benjamite Hebrew (a 'lost' tribe) NOT a Jew.
Paul admits to being a Murderer.
Paul admits to being a Liar.
Paul admits to being a Fraud.
Paul admits to being a Thief.

Only a lunatic or an imbecile would listen to a scumbag like Paul.
Gary

Buffalo, NY

#31660 Jul 5, 2013
Hi Bible:

Thank you for your input. Yes, you are correct of course that it is all of God's grace and mercy that saves anyone of us. The true gospel strips mankind from their pride and mankind does not like this at all! So what they come up with is a man centered do it your self help salvation plan that has been made more into the image of man's pride of a works gospel. This is what the churches have in common that is, a gospel that centers around the pride of man and it can be very subtle so much so if it were possible these false gospels would fool the very elect, Matthew 24:24.

For example, this is why there are so many different kinds of denominations today there was no Catholic church, Baptist, Luthern, Methodist, and on and on. The Bible just called them "Christ-in" Christians. Man came up with these other names to show that they believe the creeds of this denomination or that now we know they cannot be all right could they? No, the sad thing is they put their creeds above the very word of God thus they only go so far and they stop, they will not allow for the Bible to correct these churches because most believe that they have arrived when the fact is, the believer is a forever learning and relearning and making adjustments when shown to be in error these churches never do this. The Bible tells us that it is given for correction, instruction, reproof and so on, 2 Tim. 3:16. The churches have gone so prideful they believe they are beyond any correction from the word of God.

This is what is called [growing in the grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ] the believer should be forever growing in a better understanding of the word of God. No one knows it all the word of God is the infinite mind of God, 2 Cor. 4:3-5 It is the very image of God Himself. Most people do not know this and they just do not believe this fact that the word of God became flesh and dwelt among us. John 1:1-9.

The sad thing to see is people thinking they know what salvation is but when tested by the word and shown where they are in error concerning this point or that what they do is lash out and call names this shows they have no true desire for truth the true believer does not mind at all if one can show him where he is in error they are very greatful because their only desire is to know truth it is no pride issue at all with the true believer if he is truly born again he will respond by the fruits of the spirit not by the power of their flesh. Mankind, all of us are born very proudful and we want it our way so Satan will give us whatever gospel that is to our liken. Now the fact is, one cannot even repent unless God grants them the gift to repent to acknowledge truth and if God does not grant them this they will be taken captive by Satan at his will, 2 Tim. 2:25-26. Now most people hate this fact because it leaves [self] out of the equation does it not? We do not like to wait upon God.

God tells us, It is good for a man to both hope and quietly wait for the salvation of the Lord. Lam. 3:26

Many want a do it your self , have it your way self help gospel that lifts up the pride of man so they come up with a gospel that all you have to do is reach out, Jesus did it all for you but it takes your power to reach out and claim it and come on down let's make a deal type of salvation reach out bow your heads no one looking around say this prayer and when you leave this church you can know that you have been saved.

What did they really do? ALL THAT THESE POOR SOULS HAVE DONE IS JUST [JOIN UP].

Jesus tells us in, John 15:16 you have NOT chosen me but I have chosen you,,," God also tells us that it is NOT the will of man that saves you but the mercy of God, Rom. 9:16, God also tells us that it is not the will of man nor of flesh but of God that saves, John 1. Thank you. Gary
BIBLE TRUE JEHOVA wrote:
<quoted text>
100%agree
who knows mybe WW is on the narrow road to be under Gods grace

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31661 Jul 5, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
According to Paul's own Epistles in the bible:
Paul never once quotes a single thing in "The Gospels".
Paul never quotes Jesus.
Paul admits to never meeting Jesus (contradicting the fabrication in Luke)
Paul places his opinion above "Angels sent from God'.
Paul knows nothing about Jesus other than the "resurrection".
Paul knows nothing about Judaism.
Paul claims to be Benjamite Hebrew (a 'lost' tribe) NOT a Jew.
Paul admits to being a Murderer.
Paul admits to being a Liar.
Paul admits to being a Fraud.
Paul admits to being a Thief.
Only a lunatic or an imbecile would listen to a scumbag like Paul.
Mostly true. The last line is interesting. Did you know that many otherwise perfectly normal and respectable people accept Paul's letters as "the Word of God" without even questioning the validity of such a statement. Given the facts you posted above, one could only consider Paul's letters to be "the word of Paul." I wouldn't go as far as you have on that. I am happy to read Paul's thought's. When we take away false deification, we are left with the totally human Paul, the one who is like us, badly flawed in many ways.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31662 Jul 5, 2013
Gary wrote:
Hi Bible:
Thank you for your input. Yes, you are correct of course that it is all of God's grace and mercy that saves anyone of us. The true gospel strips mankind from their pride and mankind does not like this at all! So what they come up with is a man centered do it your self help salvation plan that has been made more into the image of man's pride of a works gospel. This is what the churches have in common that is, a gospel that centers around the pride of man and it can be very subtle so much so if it were possible these false gospels would fool the very elect, Matthew 24:24.
For example, this is why there are so many different kinds of denominations today there was no Catholic church, Baptist, Luthern, Methodist, and on and on. The Bible just called them "Christ-in" Christians. Man came up with these other names to show that they believe the creeds of this denomination or that now we know they cannot be all right could they? No, the sad thing is they put their creeds above the very word of God thus they only go so far and they stop, they will not allow for the Bible to correct these churches because most believe that they have arrived when the fact is, the believer is a forever learning and relearning and making adjustments when shown to be in error these churches never do this. The Bible tells us that it is given for correction, instruction, reproof and so on, 2 Tim. 3:16. The churches have gone so prideful they believe they are beyond any correction from the word of God.
This is what is called [growing in the grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ] the believer should be forever growing in a better understanding of the word of God. No one knows it all the word of God is the infinite mind of God, 2 Cor. 4:3-5 It is the very image of God Himself. Most people do not know this and they just do not believe this fact that the word of God became flesh and dwelt among us. John 1:1-9.
The sad thing to see is people thinking they know what salvation is but when tested by the word and shown where they are in error concerning this point or that what they do is lash out and call names this shows they have no true desire for truth the true believer does not mind at all if one can show him where he is in error they are very greatful because their only desire is to know truth it is no pride issue at all with the true believer if he is truly born again he will respond by the fruits of the spirit not by the power of their flesh. Mankind, all of us are born very proudful and we want it our way so Satan will give us whatever gospel that is to our liken. Now the fact is, one cannot even repent unless God grants them the gift to repent to acknowledge truth and if God does not grant them this they will be taken captive by Satan at his will, 2 Tim. 2:25-26. Now most people hate this fact because it leaves [self] out of the equation does it not? We do not like to wait upon God.
God tells us, It is good for a man to both hope and quietly wait for the salvation of the Lord. Lam. 3:26
Many want a do it your self , have it your way self help gospel that lifts up the pride of man so they come up with a gospel that all you have to do is reach out, Jesus did it all for you but it takes your power to reach out and claim it and come on down let's make a deal type of salvation reach out bow your heads no one looking around say this prayer and when you leave this church you can know that you have been saved.
What did they really do? ALL THAT THESE POOR SOULS HAVE DONE IS JUST [JOIN UP].
Jesus tells us in, John 15:16 you have NOT chosen me but I have chosen you,,," God also tells us that it is NOT the will of man that saves you but the mercy of God, Rom. 9:16, God also tells us that it is not the will of man nor of flesh but of God that saves, John 1. Thank you. Gary
<quoted text>
The Bible is NOT God.
Gary

Buffalo, NY

#31663 Jul 5, 2013
Hi Bible:

Thank you. The sad fact is, most people do not believe the Bible is the word of God, the Bible tells us how they Bible came into being,[Holy men of God spoke as God the Holy Spirit moved them]

Many will say Paul said this and he was wrong or John did not say this or that he was just a man he was just teaching what was taking place in his day.

Things like this many will say which shows to the true believer these dear souls really have no clue it is all the word of God. God told Jeremiah to write every word God says in a book and so Jeremiah did according to what God spoke word for word, Jer. 36:1-2.

God also tells us that only the scriptures are able to make one wise unto salvation, 2 Time. 3:15-16.

So when they say Paul said this or John said that no! It is all God's word, God spoke to them by His Spirit and His power what to write down so it was the Spirit of God that spoke this is why 2 Cor. 4:3-5 tells us that the word of God is the very image of God Himself. The unsaved has no clue of this truth sad to say because it must be revealed to them by God's Spirit and that can only happen when God applies His word to that heart and saves him when God sets His Spirit inside of him making him or her born again by the word and the Spirit, John 3, and 4, 1 Peter 1:10.

So the true believer will always bow down to the power of the word of God for the word became flesh and dwelt among us. John 1. Those who are not saved will read the Bible like any other book not knowing that the Bible is not like any other book it is a spiritual book and only those born of the word and the Spirit will know this fact. Those not saved will just intellectualize the word of God just like any other book, the gospel, the Bible tells us that it is HID to them that are lost, 2 Cor. 4:3-5. They will show a very low view of the word of God by what they say of the word of God they will look at the writer of some of the books and put them down not knowing that Paul, John, Luke all spoke under the Spirit of God ALL scriptures not just some of it, the Bible tells us is God breathed, 2 Tim. 3:16. Now if one is not saved they will kick, and buck, these truth's in the word of God they will lash out at the person declaring this truth not knowing that they are really lashing out at the truth of the word of God. They will not slander the message they will slander the messenger and if he is quoting from the word of God really they are slandering the message of the word also sad to say, the true believer prays for these dear souls and hopes nothing but the highest good for them and that would be salvation. Thank you. Gary 1 John 3:13-15
BIBLE TRUE JEHOVA wrote:
<quoted text>
100%agree
WW doesn't have any clue,but salavtion and grace is only given by God as free gift.
who knows mybe WW is on the narrow road to be under Gods grace

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#31664 Jul 5, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Mostly true. The last line is interesting. Did you know that many otherwise perfectly normal and respectable people accept Paul's letters as "the Word of God" without even questioning the validity of such a statement. Given the facts you posted above, one could only consider Paul's letters to be "the word of Paul." I wouldn't go as far as you have on that. I am happy to read Paul's thought's. When we take away false deification, we are left with the totally human Paul, the one who is like us, badly flawed in many ways.
Agreed.
Still, anyone who thinks Paul's letters (or anything else) are "God's Words" is a lunatic or stupid.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#31665 Jul 5, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible is NOT God.
Origodmi ?

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#31666 Jul 5, 2013
Gary wrote:
Hi Bible:
Thank you. The sad fact is, most people do not believe the Bible is the word of God, the Bible tells us how they Bible came into being,[Holy men of God spoke as God the Holy Spirit moved them]
Many will say Paul said this and he was wrong or John did not say this or that he was just a man he was just teaching what was taking place in his day.
Things like this many will say which shows to the true believer these dear souls really have no clue it is all the word of God. God told Jeremiah to write every word God says in a book and so Jeremiah did according to what God spoke word for word, Jer. 36:1-2.
God also tells us that only the scriptures are able to make one wise unto salvation, 2 Time. 3:15-16.
So when they say Paul said this or John said that no! It is all God's word, God spoke to them by His Spirit and His power what to write down so it was the Spirit of God that spoke this is why 2 Cor. 4:3-5 tells us that the word of God is the very image of God Himself. The unsaved has no clue of this truth sad to say because it must be revealed to them by God's Spirit and that can only happen when God applies His word to that heart and saves him when God sets His Spirit inside of him making him or her born again by the word and the Spirit, John 3, and 4, 1 Peter 1:10.
So the true believer will always bow down to the power of the word of God for the word became flesh and dwelt among us. John 1. Those who are not saved will read the Bible like any other book not knowing that the Bible is not like any other book it is a spiritual book and only those born of the word and the Spirit will know this fact. Those not saved will just intellectualize the word of God just like any other book, the gospel, the Bible tells us that it is HID to them that are lost, 2 Cor. 4:3-5. They will show a very low view of the word of God by what they say of the word of God they will look at the writer of some of the books and put them down not knowing that Paul, John, Luke all spoke under the Spirit of God ALL scriptures not just some of it, the Bible tells us is God breathed, 2 Tim. 3:16. Now if one is not saved they will kick, and buck, these truth's in the word of God they will lash out at the person declaring this truth not knowing that they are really lashing out at the truth of the word of God. They will not slander the message they will slander the messenger and if he is quoting from the word of God really they are slandering the message of the word also sad to say, the true believer prays for these dear souls and hopes nothing but the highest good for them and that would be salvation. Thank you. Gary 1 John 3:13-15
<quoted text>
You are a lunatic and an imbecile.

God just said so.
Gary

Buffalo, NY

#31667 Jul 5, 2013
God tells us in His word that the word of God is the very image of God Himself only those that truly are born again by the word and Spirit will believe this truth we cannot separate the word of the living God from God Himself. This truth is HID to them that are lost sad to say.

"But if our gospel be HID, it is HID to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, WHO IS THE IMAGE OF GOD, should shine unto them. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus sake." 2 Cor. 4:3-5

1- The true gospel is hidden to them that are lost they cannot see this truth.

2- The god of this world who is Satan has blinded their eyes to see this glorious truth that the gospel is the very image of God Himself.

3- For I do not preach what I think but what God is declaring we are just servants of the Lord Jesus Christ proclaiming what God is declaring not what we think.

"In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD." John 1:1

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." John 1:14

Jesus tells us He will not judge us but the words He speaks will judge us. ALL the scriptures is God breathed, 2 Tim. 3:16 and only the scriptures the word of God is able to make one wise unto salvation, 2 Tim. 3:15

No matter what anyone says, truth cannot be revealed to anyone of us unless God grants us knowledge to see the truth of the word of God that can set the captives free, 2 Tim. 2:25-26. The true believer must worship God in Spirit and in truth, John 4:23. Jesus tells us my word is truth, John 17:17.

When one is truly saved he is saved by the word of God that liveth and abideth forever.

"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but incorruptible, BY THE WORD OF GOD, which liveth and abideth for ever." 2 Peter 1:23.

When God tells us that ALL scripture is God breathed the true test is, do we believe it? All that a true believe can do is to be a faithful witness of the truth of the power of the word of God, Rom. 1:16 the power is in the gospel the word of God. I cannot convince you nor anyone it must come by an act of the living God and this all takes a miracle and work of God that one can believe the truth.

"And Jesus answered and said unto them, this is the WORK OF GOD THAT YOU BELIEVE ON HIM whom He hath sent. John 6:29

It is not the work of me nor any mere man but it is all the work of God that anyone truly can have faith to believe on Him thus God alone gets all the glory. Thank you. Gary
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible is NOT God.
Dr shrink

Baltimore, MD

#31668 Jul 5, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
What makes your Bible babble any more relevant than mine?
Think about it. The people who wrote the Bible did not agree on salvation. If God were directing the writing of the Bible, there would be no such disagreement. What the Bible proves is that the people who wrote it were no more in agreement than you and I.
because I know ancient arameic,hebrew,and greek koine meanings
for example"died for whole world" never means world outide of this who died for world
it means that JESUS DIED FOR WHOLE WORLD BELONGING AND ESTABLISHING BY HIM ALONE,
IT MEANS THAT KINGDOM OF GOD ENTER ONLY THOSE WHO ARE CHOSEN ELECTED,AND UNDER GRACE+ WASHED BY HIS LORD OF LORDS BLOOD

it doesn't mean at all Jesus died for This world to save them all-because this world doesn't belong to Him,only was made by satan-god of this world-pseudo jesus so called angel of light???

Bible don't confuse nobody,only greed and power hunger confuse Bible to fit Bible to their Lies
2/lack of hebrew and arameic and greek old koine, drive crazy and blind all people believing man made doctrines?

Bible was written by God who use human living pen to express His thoughts toward humankind jer 36;1-8,all original writing were burnt up,scribe( means pen) human Barukh rewrited Gods Word directed personaly by God Lord to jeremaiah prophet and barukh human scribe(means pen)

if you write to your mama letter? who write this letter YOU OR PEN OR PAPER????

same is Bible; jer 36;1-8.isaiah 8;1.Zech 5;1. Hab 2;2

I quote for you not Paul words also look at deep those passages

question?
what is your name my friend?
thank you for attending this topic
Dr shrink

Baltimore, MD

#31669 Jul 5, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a lunatic and an imbecile.
God just said so.
gary is more smart from all those atheistic psychopaths on wjsly,
like your fake friends ;ians,Catcher,HL, and crazy Mark Holender russian escaped from siberia Puttin gulags
Dr shrink

Baltimore, MD

#31670 Jul 5, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible is NOT God.
right? MR WW or(??????)
BIBLE IS GODS WORD WRITTEN ONLY TO GODS ELECTED FUTURE KINGS OVER NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH.

TO GODS BE THE GLORY, AND BIBLE IS TO LEARN BASICS WHO GOD IS?
Dr shrink

Baltimore, MD

#31671 Jul 5, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Mostly true. The last line is interesting. Did you know that many otherwise perfectly normal and respectable people accept Paul's letters as "the Word of God" without even questioning the validity of such a statement. Given the facts you posted above, one could only consider Paul's letters to be "the word of Paul." I wouldn't go as far as you have on that. I am happy to read Paul's thought's. When we take away false deification, we are left with the totally human Paul, the one who is like us, badly flawed in many ways.
PAULS LETTERS are very beneficial and spiritualy valuable, but paul was not God to exclude Jesus Worda and OT, and read only paul words written by man with errors,and spiritual high values?

you are man of 21 century,
sure you know what is to read or not read from pauls letters,

G_O_D is not dumb butt,
only this poster doesn't understand one thing?
THAT BIBLE NEVER WAS CREATED BY CHURCHES OR RCC,AND NEVER THOSE WORLD CHURCHES ARE OWNERS OF THIS BOOK BIBLE

Bible is Moral Codex only for elected future new government of new heaven and new earth

Paul is not God,never was never will be,
Paul letters are only beneficial to distinguish morality from immorality of fallen humans of this earth

read Rev 21;18-19...
and be careful
there are people who are able to know who is behind your awatar,same person searching the truth only different awatar name?

have good day may friend?

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#31672 Jul 5, 2013
Gary wrote:
God tells us in His word that the word of God is the very image of God Himself only those that truly are born again by the word and Spirit will believe this truth we cannot separate the word of the living God from God Himself. This truth is HID to them that are lost sad to say.
"But if our gospel be HID, it is HID to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, WHO IS THE IMAGE OF GOD, should shine unto them. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus sake." 2 Cor. 4:3-5
1- The true gospel is hidden to them that are lost they cannot see this truth.
2- The god of this world who is Satan has blinded their eyes to see this glorious truth that the gospel is the very image of God Himself.
3- For I do not preach what I think but what God is declaring we are just servants of the Lord Jesus Christ proclaiming what God is declaring not what we think.
"In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD." John 1:1
"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." John 1:14
Jesus tells us He will not judge us but the words He speaks will judge us. ALL the scriptures is God breathed, 2 Tim. 3:16 and only the scriptures the word of God is able to make one wise unto salvation, 2 Tim. 3:15
No matter what anyone says, truth cannot be revealed to anyone of us unless God grants us knowledge to see the truth of the word of God that can set the captives free, 2 Tim. 2:25-26. The true believer must worship God in Spirit and in truth, John 4:23. Jesus tells us my word is truth, John 17:17.
When one is truly saved he is saved by the word of God that liveth and abideth forever.
"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but incorruptible, BY THE WORD OF GOD, which liveth and abideth for ever." 2 Peter 1:23.
When God tells us that ALL scripture is God breathed the true test is, do we believe it? All that a true believe can do is to be a faithful witness of the truth of the power of the word of God, Rom. 1:16 the power is in the gospel the word of God. I cannot convince you nor anyone it must come by an act of the living God and this all takes a miracle and work of God that one can believe the truth.
"And Jesus answered and said unto them, this is the WORK OF GOD THAT YOU BELIEVE ON HIM whom He hath sent. John 6:29
It is not the work of me nor any mere man but it is all the work of God that anyone truly can have faith to believe on Him thus God alone gets all the glory. Thank you. Gary
<quoted text>
John is a proven blasphemy.

It is a fraudulent rewriting of Genesis.

You believe in liars. Proof you are an lunatic and an imbecile.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#31673 Jul 5, 2013
Dr shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
gary is more smart from all those atheistic psychopaths on wjsly,
like your fake friends ;ians,Catcher,HL, and crazy Mark Holender russian escaped from siberia Puttin gulags
Gary is an utter moron.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31674 Jul 5, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed.
Still, anyone who thinks Paul's letters (or anything else) are "God's Words" is a lunatic or stupid.
I agree with this statement.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31675 Jul 5, 2013
Dr shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
PAULS LETTERS are very beneficial and spiritualy valuable, but paul was not God to exclude Jesus Worda and OT, and read only paul words written by man with errors,and spiritual high values?
you are man of 21 century,
sure you know what is to read or not read from pauls letters,
G_O_D is not dumb butt,
only this poster doesn't understand one thing?
THAT BIBLE NEVER WAS CREATED BY CHURCHES OR RCC,AND NEVER THOSE WORLD CHURCHES ARE OWNERS OF THIS BOOK BIBLE
Bible is Moral Codex only for elected future new government of new heaven and new earth
Paul is not God,never was never will be,
Paul letters are only beneficial to distinguish morality from immorality of fallen humans of this earth
read Rev 21;18-19...
and be careful
there are people who are able to know who is behind your awatar,same person searching the truth only different awatar name?
have good day may friend?
I disagree, I don't find Paul's letter to be spiritually valuable.

The Bible is an anthology containing many disparate texts and beliefs. The Book of Revelation also says that nothing is supposed to be taken away. How is the Protestant Holy Bible consistent with what is written in the Book of Revelation? Several books have been omitted.

What future New Government? The only moral code is the Ten Commandments according to the Gospels.

Nobody needs Paul's opinions when they already have the Gospels and the Moral Code from the Law of Moses. That being said, Paul's opinions are very informative and interesting in a historical context. Paul can also be considered the first Christian theologian.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31676 Jul 5, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
Gary is an utter moron.
Gary has his opinion. All opinions are valid to some degree or another.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31677 Jul 5, 2013
Dr shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
because I know ancient arameic,hebrew,and greek koine meanings
for example"died for whole world" never means world outide of this who died for world
it means that JESUS DIED FOR WHOLE WORLD BELONGING AND ESTABLISHING BY HIM ALONE,
IT MEANS THAT KINGDOM OF GOD ENTER ONLY THOSE WHO ARE CHOSEN ELECTED,AND UNDER GRACE+ WASHED BY HIS LORD OF LORDS BLOOD
it doesn't mean at all Jesus died for This world to save them all-because this world doesn't belong to Him,only was made by satan-god of this world-pseudo jesus so called angel of light???
Bible don't confuse nobody,only greed and power hunger confuse Bible to fit Bible to their Lies
2/lack of hebrew and arameic and greek old koine, drive crazy and blind all people believing man made doctrines?
Bible was written by God who use human living pen to express His thoughts toward humankind jer 36;1-8,all original writing were burnt up,scribe( means pen) human Barukh rewrited Gods Word directed personaly by God Lord to jeremaiah prophet and barukh human scribe(means pen)
if you write to your mama letter? who write this letter YOU OR PEN OR PAPER????
same is Bible; jer 36;1-8.isaiah 8;1.Zech 5;1. Hab 2;2
I quote for you not Paul words also look at deep those passages
question?
what is your name my friend?
thank you for attending this topic
Would you like me to explain how the Bible has many versions of Salvation which are in disagreement with each other?

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