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#31612 Jun 30, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
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every written word is not empty word
but your empty brain is for sure empty,
I don't advice you,because you are strange mutt and gay,
I call to repent your abominable sickness
word repent is not advice,
I am not gay to use viagra and try little harder on you,
also don't wait to get harder and deeper, only repent,pray to God for mercy and forgiveness all your filthy life;alcohol,drugs, pipe, stop to be a gay, find at least part time work, stop draw foodstamps from SSA
AND STOP MANY SINS COVERED YOUR POOR HEAD AND BODY LIKE DRY COW S...
So is your glass half empty or half full.

I don't care about your stupid ideas on sin either.

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#31613 Jun 30, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
every written word is not empty word
but your empty brain is for sure empty,
I don't advice you,because you are strange mutt and gay,
I call to repent your abominable sickness
word repent is not advice,
I am not gay to use viagra and try little harder on you,
also don't wait to get harder and deeper, only repent,pray to God for mercy and forgiveness all your filthy life;alcohol,drugs, pipe, stop to be a gay, find at least part time work, stop draw foodstamps from SSA
AND STOP MANY SINS COVERED YOUR POOR HEAD AND BODY LIKE DRY COW S...
Your interpretation of the Word is empty-headed nonsense.

Get a life Dude.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#31614 Jul 1, 2013
Gary wrote:
Dear all:
As I said from time to time I will drop in and check out if anyone is truly open to truth and for correction, 2 Tim. 3:16, sad to say instead most of what I read is just full of pride and name calling sad to say. This site is called, "What your churches won't tell you"
I can see most are not looking at what the churches are teaching verses what the word declares. Here is a question:
1- What is true? The free will of man in salvation or is it God's election program? Do we see the words "free will" in the Bible Do we see "election" in the Bible?
One is a true gospel the other is man made which one is man made and why from the Bible alone. Thank you. Gary. 1 John 3:13-15.
Gary,
Speaking of what churches don't tell you; most don't teach the plan of salvation we find in the Bible. Most teach a conversion that is not found in the Bible while teaching that the conversions we read about in the Bible that place one into the church of our Lord are not essential.

Man has free will in determining whether to obey or disobey God's Plan of Salvation. God wants everyone to decide to follow Him:

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

And we must all "obey the gospel":

2 Thessalonians 1:8
He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.

1 Peter 4:17
For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?

So many teach a "faith only" gospel, but the only location we find the words "faith only" in scripture are in James 2:24:
"You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only."

We must know how to "obey the gospel"! Peter was the first (Matt. 16:19) to present the entrance into the kingdom in Acts 2.

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#31615 Jul 1, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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Gary,
Speaking of what churches don't tell you; most don't teach the plan of salvation we find in the Bible. Most teach a conversion that is not found in the Bible while teaching that the conversions we read about in the Bible that place one into the church of our Lord are not essential.
Man has free will in determining whether to obey or disobey God's Plan of Salvation. God wants everyone to decide to follow Him:
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
And we must all "obey the gospel":
2 Thessalonians 1:8
He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.
1 Peter 4:17
For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?
So many teach a "faith only" gospel, but the only location we find the words "faith only" in scripture are in James 2:24:
"You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only."
We must know how to "obey the gospel"! Peter was the first (Matt. 16:19) to present the entrance into the kingdom in Acts 2.
The Bible is a self refuting tautology.

Matthew 6:34
Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

This passage negates everything you just posted.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#31616 Jul 1, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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The Bible is a self refuting tautology.
Matthew 6:34
Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
This passage negates everything you just posted.
The Bible is not self-refuting. People that have little to no knowledge of biblical divisions, dispensations, compositions, authors and intended audiences misunderstand, misapply and misuse the scriptures because they know not how to "rightly divide" the Word.

C'mon man! Jesus' teachings that worry does us no good does not negate his teaching that we can only go to the Father through him. Neither does it refute the teaching that we must "obey the gospel".

Have you obeyed the gospel?

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#31617 Jul 1, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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The Bible is not self-refuting. People that have little to no knowledge of biblical divisions, dispensations, compositions, authors and intended audiences misunderstand, misapply and misuse the scriptures because they know not how to "rightly divide" the Word.
C'mon man! Jesus' teachings that worry does us no good does not negate his teaching that we can only go to the Father through him. Neither does it refute the teaching that we must "obey the gospel".
Have you obeyed the gospel?
Dispensations are nonsense. Of course the Bible has many authors and numerous contradictions. Paul is not the Gospel, neither is the Bible. Jesus never authorized the Bible. Jesus' teachings were meant to be transferred orally in the oral tradition from person to person. This is why he chastised the scribes and Pharisees.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#31618 Jul 1, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Dispensations are nonsense. Of course the Bible has many authors and numerous contradictions. Paul is not the Gospel, neither is the Bible. Jesus never authorized the Bible. Jesus' teachings were meant to be transferred orally in the oral tradition from person to person. This is why he chastised the scribes and Pharisees.
Looks like your opinion to me since you've offered no reference for the statements YOU'VE made.

Why did Jesus quote from scriptures if he didn't authorize the Bible?
Why did the N.T. come to be if Jesus didn't want it that way?
If we're supposed to listen to oral tradition and not the Bible, who's version of oral tradition are we supposed to listen to?
If there are no dispensations, where are the Christians in the OT?
Where are the Christians in the gospels for that matter?

Proverbs 14:12
There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death.

You need to obey the gospel.

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#31619 Jul 1, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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Looks like your opinion to me since you've offered no reference for the statements YOU'VE made.
Why did Jesus quote from scriptures if he didn't authorize the Bible?
Why did the N.T. come to be if Jesus didn't want it that way?
If we're supposed to listen to oral tradition and not the Bible, who's version of oral tradition are we supposed to listen to?
If there are no dispensations, where are the Christians in the OT?
Where are the Christians in the gospels for that matter?
Proverbs 14:12
There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death.
You need to obey the gospel.
The Bible did not exist. Prove your claim that Jesus authorized the Bible.

Good question. Paul is only self-authorized. Where does that leave the rest of the New Testament? The Gospel accounts are often in conflict. James is in conflict with Paul's letters. The Book of Revelation says that nothing was supposed to be removed from the Bible. Where does that leave the Protestant Holy Bible with is missing several books?

I don't need to do anything. Obedience is futile.

Your God is too small.

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#31620 Jul 1, 2013
You believe this nonsense?

Dispensationalism is a theological system that teaches biblical history is best understood in light of a number of successive administrations of God's dealings with mankind, which it calls "dispensations." It maintains fundamental distinctions between God's plans for national Israel and for the New Testament Church, and emphasizes prophecy of the end-times and a pre-tribulation rapture of the church prior to Christ's Second Coming. Its beginnings are usually associated with the Plymouth Brethren movement in the UK and the teachings of John Nelson Darby.

http://www.theopedia.com/Dispensationalism

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#31624 Jul 1, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
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true god is 2 FEEt higher from you,
repentance can only make you normal human
there exist not other option.
your poor posts are not worthy to wipe up own a..after heavy s..
WTF are you actually trying to say?

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#31625 Jul 1, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
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try to drink from my glass?
you are dead in sins
How can dead skunk care about own dead sins?
stop sin and repent with broken and contrite heart Psalm 51;17
No thanks, you are already too inebriated. Go sleep it off.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#31626 Jul 2, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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The Bible did not exist. Prove your claim that Jesus authorized the Bible.
Good question. Paul is only self-authorized. Where does that leave the rest of the New Testament? The Gospel accounts are often in conflict. James is in conflict with Paul's letters. The Book of Revelation says that nothing was supposed to be removed from the Bible. Where does that leave the Protestant Holy Bible with is missing several books?
I don't need to do anything. Obedience is futile.
Your God is too small.
Most of the library of books we currently call the Holy Bible existed when Jesus was here. He quoted from those books time and again!

If not for the gospel accounts you'd have never heard of Jesus! Yet you are quick to discount the gospel accounts and expect to be shown Jesus' words from those very gospel accounts. Crazy, isn't it!

James is in no conflict with Paul's letters. There is no conflict in the gospel accounts.

What verse are you referring to in Revelation?

I have faith the Holy Spirit preserved the Bible for us. Btw, your BIG God will answer to my God.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#31627 Jul 2, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
You believe this nonsense?
Dispensationalism is a theological system that teaches biblical history is best understood in light of a number of successive administrations of God's dealings with mankind, which it calls "dispensations." It maintains fundamental distinctions between God's plans for national Israel and for the New Testament Church, and emphasizes prophecy of the end-times and a pre-tribulation rapture of the church prior to Christ's Second Coming. Its beginnings are usually associated with the Plymouth Brethren movement in the UK and the teachings of John Nelson Darby.
http://www.theopedia.com/Dispensationalism
You're wrong. This is typical of someone like you attempting to tell me what I believe. There's a big problem in the paragraph you typed above. You're telling me there's a rapture. There is no such word in the scriptures. The rapture doctrine is denominationalism (man's division) at its best.

There is one head of the church. One faith (Eph. 4:4-6) therefore there cannot be divisions and it still be THE church Jesus paid for. The rapture doctrine is nonsense but that does not negate the fact that there are dispensations in the Bible. As I asked you earlier, were there such things as Christians before Christ's death? Were Christians to worship in the manner the Israelites were to in the OT? No and no. Were both groups I just mentioned doing God's will when they both had different methods for pleasing God? Yes. Why? Different dispensations.

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#31628 Jul 2, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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You're wrong. This is typical of someone like you attempting to tell me what I believe. There's a big problem in the paragraph you typed above. You're telling me there's a rapture. There is no such word in the scriptures. The rapture doctrine is denominationalism (man's division) at its best.
There is one head of the church. One faith (Eph. 4:4-6) therefore there cannot be divisions and it still be THE church Jesus paid for. The rapture doctrine is nonsense but that does not negate the fact that there are dispensations in the Bible. As I asked you earlier, were there such things as Christians before Christ's death? Were Christians to worship in the manner the Israelites were to in the OT? No and no. Were both groups I just mentioned doing God's will when they both had different methods for pleasing God? Yes. Why? Different dispensations.
You are the one who brought up dispensations, not I. I have to agree with you about rapture. It is a total crock.

It is also too bad that so many Christians follow the Bible just like the Hebrews of the day followed the Hebrew Scripture, hide bound by laws and regulations devised by church leaders in the name of Moses. I don't know what is pleasing for God, certainly not this nonsense.

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#31629 Jul 2, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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You're wrong. This is typical of someone like you attempting to tell me what I believe. There's a big problem in the paragraph you typed above. You're telling me there's a rapture. There is no such word in the scriptures. The rapture doctrine is denominationalism (man's division) at its best.
There is one head of the church. One faith (Eph. 4:4-6) therefore there cannot be divisions and it still be THE church Jesus paid for. The rapture doctrine is nonsense but that does not negate the fact that there are dispensations in the Bible. As I asked you earlier, were there such things as Christians before Christ's death? Were Christians to worship in the manner the Israelites were to in the OT? No and no. Were both groups I just mentioned doing God's will when they both had different methods for pleasing God? Yes. Why? Different dispensations.
No reference? Sorry bro, I don't do Bible Babble. If you can't get the big picture and talk about it in you own words, then you have missed the point entirely.

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#31632 Jul 2, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
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say thanks to God Almighty not to me
God sent dr Shrink to monitor everyday you and your filthy a....
maybe God saves you,your filthy a... and send before heaven to the purgatory place on the moon-american bases builded for all those amrican government scums who want to be "big shoots"but they are nothing,less than nothing like you miste Bo Do Do
Thanks for what? Your looney posts?

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#31633 Jul 2, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
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quess WTF Im trying tell you?
I'd rather not.
Saban fan

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#31634 Jul 2, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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No reference? Sorry bro, I don't do Bible Babble. If you can't get the big picture and talk about it in you own words, then you have missed the point entirely.
No, the point is when someone tells me what the Bible says, I prefer them to show me where the Bible says it. Too many people go off half cocked and use words completely out of context to formulate some strange beliefs. Why do you think there are so many denominations (divisions)?

Therefore.. to ME, the POINT is to get it right - in context. Throughout the text we are warned of false teachers <---(are you missing the point?). How else would I recognize a false teacher except by comparing what they say to what the Bible says?? If you show me Bible verses in context you have my attention. Otherwise, I'll tune out to your static. My opinions don't matter and yours don't either. I don't follow men or men's beliefs, but I can be completely convinced by the Bible "rightly divided".

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#31635 Jul 2, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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No, the point is when someone tells me what the Bible says, I prefer them to show me where the Bible says it. Too many people go off half cocked and use words completely out of context to formulate some strange beliefs. Why do you think there are so many denominations (divisions)?
Therefore.. to ME, the POINT is to get it right - in context. Throughout the text we are warned of false teachers <---(are you missing the point?). How else would I recognize a false teacher except by comparing what they say to what the Bible says?? If you show me Bible verses in context you have my attention. Otherwise, I'll tune out to your static. My opinions don't matter and yours don't either. I don't follow men or men's beliefs, but I can be completely convinced by the Bible "rightly divided".
I have done that already. You weren't paying any attention.

I agree. Most Bible Babblers use the Bible out of context.

Because people don't agree on what the Bible says?

Maybe all teachers of the "Law" are false teachers. Jesus apparently had no time for them either.

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#31636 Jul 2, 2013
Was I telling you what to Believe?

Are you making a projection?

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