What Your Church Won't Tell You by Da...
Roberta G

Chicago, IL

#31586 Jun 25, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Then why don't you accept "faith in Jesus" that he was teaching accurately, with these teachings?
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlalpha.html
You have no excuse to do so, UNLESS YOU accept only the contents of the Bible - which was created by men.
It appears you want to have your cake and eat it too, but unfortunately, the cake isn't completed for you to enjoy eating it.
What are your qualifiers to believe the way you do? I've shown you that you don't "have faith" in these teachings, but you still seem to think you do.
Why?
<quoted text>
I'm going to use the same diversion tactic you have used, okay?
"Answer MY questions to you and then I'll consider answering any more of yours."
Now, if you want to divert from answering just say you won't answer. I would prefer you make the attempt through honesty instead of turning it around on me.
Will you reconsider?
What's to reconsider? I've answered your questions but you HAVEN'T answered mine. Trying to divert from that fact by claiming that I am trying to evade yours is the only dhonesty here, and it's all yours.

So, are you going to answer my questions to you, or are you just going to keep playing this game? I like a robust debate, but I DON'T play games.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#31587 Jun 25, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>What's to reconsider? I've answered your questions but you HAVEN'T answered mine. Trying to divert from that fact by claiming that I am trying to evade yours is the only dhonesty here, and it's all yours.
So, are you going to answer my questions to you, or are you just going to keep playing this game? I like a robust debate, but I DON'T play games.
I must've missed your post that had the answers to my questions.

Please post the post number, so I can refer to it.

Thanks!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#31588 Jun 25, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>What's to reconsider? I've answered your questions but you HAVEN'T answered mine. Trying to divert from that fact by claiming that I am trying to evade yours is the only dhonesty here, and it's all yours.
So, are you going to answer my questions to you, or are you just going to keep playing this game? I like a robust debate, but I DON'T play games.
Nope - just checked.....nothing.

You haven't responded to any of my questions.

I'll continue to wait.

How honest can you be?
Roberta G

Chicago, IL

#31589 Jun 25, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope - just checked.....nothing.
You haven't responded to any of my questions.
I'll continue to wait.
How honest can you be?
More honest than you, for sure. It's not even a challenge, because I've been able to cite Biblical back-up for everything I've said. Neither you nor Waster have.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#31590 Jun 25, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>More honest than you, for sure. It's not even a challenge, because I've been able to cite Biblical back-up for everything I've said. Neither you nor Waster have.
You aren't being honest.

You said you responded to my questions, when you haven't, and now you continue to divert.

You must be very comfortable in you deception towards others.

I'll ask my questions one last time. If you decide to not answer them, this will be my last post to you.

**********

Then why don't you accept "faith in Jesus" that he was teaching accurately, with these teachings?

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlalpha.html

What are your qualifiers to believe the way you do? I've shown you that you don't "have faith" in these teachings, but you still seem to think you do.

Why?

**********

....and these:

Roberta G wrote:
Are you basing your beliefs on the Gnostic "Gospels"?

New Age wrote and then asked:
No - a universal belief in Jesus. I'm not one to separate texts that have teachings by Jesus. In other words, I am not biased towards what Jesus taught, unlike Christianity.

Why?

**********
Roberta G wrote:
Nevertheless, it's dangerous to base your beliefs on the Gnostic "Gospels" and I hope you don't.

New Age asks:
It is? How?

Why do you base your belief on what other men have decided for you?

Looks like I havebeen answering your questions, up and to when you decided not to answer mine.

Like I said above, this is your last opportunity to be honest with me. Do you have it at all within you, to be honest?

We'll see.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#31592 Jun 25, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
cyber space doesn't express any honesty you poor clown
go go go monkey around
Dr Shrink monitor you everyday like NASA all americans and now poor snowden cry in the bunker of russian airport
also be careful because they can deport you to Russia
What is it that you are trying to say - I can't understand your jibberish?

Maybe you should enroll in an English or grammar course before posting anymore.

Good luck!

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31593 Jun 25, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Not funny, but quite saddening that they believe them to be true.
If people would do more research on their beliefs, instead of taking what they have been told to believe as true, the nonsense they spew toward others would probably cease, and realize how foolish they look spewing what they do.
But this takes honesty. Not only towards others, but more importantly - towards themselves.
We can already see "dr shrink" as being succumbed to the nonsense, because he can't stop insulting others with his childish posts. This poster deserves to be a so-called "Christian", because I really don't think the poster could follow anyone but what men have told them. This is ignorance at the most extreme.
You think people actually believe that nonsense?

Sheeeesh!!!!

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31594 Jun 25, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>More honest than you, for sure. It's not even a challenge, because I've been able to cite Biblical back-up for everything I've said. Neither you nor Waster have.
Citing the Bible shows what a fool you are. The Bible is unreliable information at best.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#31597 Jun 26, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
You think people actually believe that nonsense?
Sheeeesh!!!!
I wouldn't have posted it if I didn't.

It does happen. The posts on this and other forums speak volumes in supporting my opinion.

*sighs*

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31600 Jun 26, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
nobody supports your stupid insane opinions,
only those like you,bablers without of any basic ENGRISH clue
Are you kidding me?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31602 Jun 26, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
no
I am watchman of this topic,
and i know that true believers doesn't even want to look at his insane primitive posts,
only one or 2 posts 3,4 times to him,and go away after realizing his stupidity and low spiritual Bible understanding
I am in the morning,afternoon and evening watch, neath the cloud
You shall see if you accept Lord,you shall see it alone
When He leads you and true believers through f cybe space place of the red sea
To a land that we doesn't know
And our fear, wisdom and top understanding shall pass around as YOUR FOES, OR YOURS ENEMY
You could be no more afraid after cleaness and allow true gospel enter your filthy body and heart?
then you would sing His praise in a better place,
A PLACE THAT HIS HAND HAS MADE FOR US?
Welcome to Fantasy Island buddy.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31604 Jun 27, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
good for me,because I am owner of this land and
only your dr Shrink is left here like always and you as my poor client following steps of your own dr Shrink
da plane..... da plane.......

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31606 Jun 28, 2013
mama Pipek wrote:
<quoted text>
niczta ty ni ponimajesh
if all nations before Him are as nothong,and ther are counted to him less as nothing,and vanity Isaiah 40;17
also who are you before Him, not less as nothing but completly 0
stick with you dr Shrink,he adjaust your poor brain cells,and mybe My FATHER will give you grace.
also quit all your s...bow your deseased by AIDS sleton before God,and cry for mercy pslam 51;17
,because dr Shrink will take care your brain
Your big sky daddy is nothing but an egg sucking dog.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31608 Jun 29, 2013
mama Pipek wrote:
<quoted text>
ok
but he saved me,raptured ,gave me waitroom on the moon,allow me to enter earth again to take care my poor dr Shrink farts,because he farts to much and to you too.
never forget when you see rain failing on your face?
this is not rain only urines buckets of all saints thrown at miserable earthly insects look like human included you do do F...in the a..
very soon egg will be braken and all sperm from this "dog" will drop you down to the bottom of sleazy white glue-pfuj how miserable is your life to be choken to the death by overflood of sperm on your poor head without of any hair,only bunch of s.....from flying insects eating your dry feces on the ugly skull and face of oranguatana
repent repent repent,only this chance can make you human again
Empty words and childish advice don't impress me much.

Try a little harder next time.
Gary

Buffalo, NY

#31609 Jun 30, 2013
Dear all:

As I said from time to time I will drop in and check out if anyone is truly open to truth and for correction, 2 Tim. 3:16, sad to say instead most of what I read is just full of pride and name calling sad to say. This site is called, "What your churches won't tell you"

I can see most are not looking at what the churches are teaching verses what the word declares. Here is a question:

1- What is true? The free will of man in salvation or is it God's election program? Do we see the words "free will" in the Bible Do we see "election" in the Bible?

One is a true gospel the other is man made which one is man made and why from the Bible alone. Thank you. Gary. 1 John 3:13-15.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31612 Jun 30, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
every written word is not empty word
but your empty brain is for sure empty,
I don't advice you,because you are strange mutt and gay,
I call to repent your abominable sickness
word repent is not advice,
I am not gay to use viagra and try little harder on you,
also don't wait to get harder and deeper, only repent,pray to God for mercy and forgiveness all your filthy life;alcohol,drugs, pipe, stop to be a gay, find at least part time work, stop draw foodstamps from SSA
AND STOP MANY SINS COVERED YOUR POOR HEAD AND BODY LIKE DRY COW S...
So is your glass half empty or half full.

I don't care about your stupid ideas on sin either.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31613 Jun 30, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
every written word is not empty word
but your empty brain is for sure empty,
I don't advice you,because you are strange mutt and gay,
I call to repent your abominable sickness
word repent is not advice,
I am not gay to use viagra and try little harder on you,
also don't wait to get harder and deeper, only repent,pray to God for mercy and forgiveness all your filthy life;alcohol,drugs, pipe, stop to be a gay, find at least part time work, stop draw foodstamps from SSA
AND STOP MANY SINS COVERED YOUR POOR HEAD AND BODY LIKE DRY COW S...
Your interpretation of the Word is empty-headed nonsense.

Get a life Dude.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#31614 Jul 1, 2013
Gary wrote:
Dear all:
As I said from time to time I will drop in and check out if anyone is truly open to truth and for correction, 2 Tim. 3:16, sad to say instead most of what I read is just full of pride and name calling sad to say. This site is called, "What your churches won't tell you"
I can see most are not looking at what the churches are teaching verses what the word declares. Here is a question:
1- What is true? The free will of man in salvation or is it God's election program? Do we see the words "free will" in the Bible Do we see "election" in the Bible?
One is a true gospel the other is man made which one is man made and why from the Bible alone. Thank you. Gary. 1 John 3:13-15.
Gary,
Speaking of what churches don't tell you; most don't teach the plan of salvation we find in the Bible. Most teach a conversion that is not found in the Bible while teaching that the conversions we read about in the Bible that place one into the church of our Lord are not essential.

Man has free will in determining whether to obey or disobey God's Plan of Salvation. God wants everyone to decide to follow Him:

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

And we must all "obey the gospel":

2 Thessalonians 1:8
He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.

1 Peter 4:17
For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?

So many teach a "faith only" gospel, but the only location we find the words "faith only" in scripture are in James 2:24:
"You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only."

We must know how to "obey the gospel"! Peter was the first (Matt. 16:19) to present the entrance into the kingdom in Acts 2.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31615 Jul 1, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
Gary,
Speaking of what churches don't tell you; most don't teach the plan of salvation we find in the Bible. Most teach a conversion that is not found in the Bible while teaching that the conversions we read about in the Bible that place one into the church of our Lord are not essential.
Man has free will in determining whether to obey or disobey God's Plan of Salvation. God wants everyone to decide to follow Him:
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
And we must all "obey the gospel":
2 Thessalonians 1:8
He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.
1 Peter 4:17
For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?
So many teach a "faith only" gospel, but the only location we find the words "faith only" in scripture are in James 2:24:
"You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only."
We must know how to "obey the gospel"! Peter was the first (Matt. 16:19) to present the entrance into the kingdom in Acts 2.
The Bible is a self refuting tautology.

Matthew 6:34
Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

This passage negates everything you just posted.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#31616 Jul 1, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible is a self refuting tautology.
Matthew 6:34
Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
This passage negates everything you just posted.
The Bible is not self-refuting. People that have little to no knowledge of biblical divisions, dispensations, compositions, authors and intended audiences misunderstand, misapply and misuse the scriptures because they know not how to "rightly divide" the Word.

C'mon man! Jesus' teachings that worry does us no good does not negate his teaching that we can only go to the Father through him. Neither does it refute the teaching that we must "obey the gospel".

Have you obeyed the gospel?

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