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USA Born

Claremont, CA

#31494 Jun 18, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Here is what sums up the Law of the Prophets.
Mark 12:29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus,“is this:‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[e] 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[f] 31 The second is this:‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[g] There is no commandment greater than these.”
Matthew 22:37 Jesus replied:“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[c] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it:‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[d] 4037 Jesus replied:“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[c] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it:‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[d] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.
Sums up the so called Law of the Prophets without all the superfluous baggage.
"All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
If all people could live fully, the two commandments, they could have lived the Law. But, that is not the world today or in the past.
The scripture doesn't say this is the sum.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31495 Jun 18, 2013
USA Born wrote:
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de·file/di&#712;f&#299 ;l/
Verb: mar, or spoil.
Noun: steep-sided, narrow gorge or passage (originally one requiring troops to march in single file).
Synonyms pollute - soil - foul - contaminate - profane - stainnounpass
Hopefully you can see how the definition of defile can apply to the scriptures you posted.
Just for future reference. It is never possble that Jesus is lying. "God be true and every man a liar".
Keeping scripture in context is necessary to understand scripture. I can pick and choose scriptures to say anything I could imagine. Does that make the scriptures a lie?
If you believe Jesus then why do you insist He changed the Law when scriptures say He changed not a jot or tittle? If Jesus said He changed the Law, I would believe it.
We are only discussing the word defile within the context of the Bible. Bronze age people knew nothing of bacteria or science.

Profane is probably the best context and has ritual/moral context.

Please address the issue about ritual purity and food discrimination written into the Law of Moses. Please show why Jesus is disregarding the Law of Moses by refusing to observe the traditions. Is Jesus a Liar? Jesus says he didn't come to change the Law. Jesus is asking people to follow his way. If so, he would change the Law by disregarding dietary statutes.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31497 Jun 18, 2013
USA Born wrote:
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"All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
If all people could live fully, the two commandments, they could have lived the Law. But, that is not the world today or in the past.
The scripture doesn't say this is the sum.
Jesus said all the Law of the Prophets rested upon these two commandments. Jesus danced around the Law of the Prophets even saying that the Law prophesied his coming into the world. The Law would be the 613 laws and statutes rather than prophesy. For the fulfillment statement to be true, Jesus would have been talking about Hebrew Scripture in its entirety rather than the Law of Moses. There is an obvious misinterpretation in the Bible.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#31498 Jun 18, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Yea you should go there. Nice place. Try not to get killed.
The OT focused on physical things. The NT, spiritual. In the OT God's people were the Israelites and the physical city of Jerusalem. Today, spiritual Israel is the church.
John 4:20-21
Gal. 6:16
Rom. 2:28-30
Gal. 3:29
Eph. 1:22-23
John 15:26
Rev. 21:2
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#31500 Jun 18, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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We are only discussing the word defile within the context of the Bible. Bronze age people knew nothing of bacteria or science.
Profane is probably the best context and has ritual/moral context.
Please address the issue about ritual purity and food discrimination written into the Law of Moses. Please show why Jesus is disregarding the Law of Moses by refusing to observe the traditions. Is Jesus a Liar? Jesus says he didn't come to change the Law. Jesus is asking people to follow his way. If so, he would change the Law by disregarding dietary statutes.
So now you're an expert on the bronze age. You even change word definitions to make your blasphemy true.
It is you who is a liar. If you want to eat a lizard, who cares. If you think the traditions of men make the Law any less the Law, that is your opinion.
YOU WROTE:
Please show why Jesus is disregarding the Law of Moses by refusing to observe the traditions. Is Jesus a Liar? Jesus says he didn't come to change the Law.

What? You say Jesus disregarded the Law, not me. God gave the Law to Moses. How can Jesus be without sin if He broke or changed the Law He came to fulfill? I agree Jesus asked us to follow Him. His words are clear.

USA Born

Claremont, CA

#31501 Jun 18, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Jesus said all the Law of the Prophets rested upon these two commandments. Jesus danced around the Law of the Prophets even saying that the Law prophesied his coming into the world. The Law would be the 613 laws and statutes rather than prophesy. For the fulfillment statement to be true, Jesus would have been talking about Hebrew Scripture in its entirety rather than the Law of Moses. There is an obvious misinterpretation in the Bible.
Jesus, the one you claim to follow, "danced" around the Law? The Law and the Prophets are two different things. Jesus never said the Law prophesied His coming but the prophets, and they did.

You wrote: For the fulfillment statement to be true, Jesus would have been talking about Hebrew
What does that mean? That makes no sense. The only misinterpretation of the scriptures is yours. You make everything a lie that doesn't fit your theology.

I really do not understand your obsession with the Law. There is much more Jesus taught.
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#31502 Jun 18, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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The OT focused on physical things. The NT, spiritual. In the OT God's people were the Israelites and the physical city of Jerusalem. Today, spiritual Israel is the church.
John 4:20-21
Gal. 6:16
Rom. 2:28-30
Gal. 3:29
Eph. 1:22-23
John 15:26
Rev. 21:2
AMEN!

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#31503 Jun 18, 2013
USA Born wrote:
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AMEN!
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places
As "Paul" expresses here - we utilize the Self to accomplish these "mind games".

Self - learn it, live it, love it.

Move past the words and understand their meanings.
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#31504 Jun 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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As "Paul" expresses here - we utilize the Self to accomplish these "mind games".
Self - learn it, live it, love it.
Move past the words and understand their meanings.
So the only thing you got out of the scripture was loving your fleshly self?

2 Corinthians 10:12 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#31505 Jun 18, 2013
USA Born wrote:
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So the only thing you got out of the scripture was loving your fleshly self?
2 Corinthians 10:12 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise
I can understand how you would prefer this to Self, instead of the "arrogance" it speaks of.

Self is not arrogance, but understanding why one does things the way they do.

FYI - no one should measure themselves upto anyone else. Looks like you failed when trying to measure up to "Paul".

Why do you think "Paul" was more enlightened than Jesus?

Please post Jesus' teaching that shows what "Paul" stated is correct.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#31506 Jun 18, 2013
BTW USA - you forgot to answer a question I posed to you the other day.

What is the difference between your "God", which is an image described by other men, and one that is imagined solely by an individual?
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#31507 Jun 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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I can understand how you would prefer this to Self, instead of the "arrogance" it speaks of.
Self is not arrogance, but understanding why one does things the way they do.
FYI - no one should measure themselves upto anyone else. Looks like you failed when trying to measure up to "Paul".
Why do you think "Paul" was more enlightened than Jesus?
Please post Jesus' teaching that shows what "Paul" stated is correct.
Mark 5:8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.
9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.

Matthew 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Another lie coming from you. I never said Paul was more "enlightened" than Jesus. First off, I would never call my Lord and Christ "enlightened".

Can you show one scripture where Jesus teaches against Paul's teaching.

Show one scripture where Jesus says we must know and love ourselves. If you can't find it per se, maybe you just made that up.
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#31509 Jun 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
BTW USA - you forgot to answer a question I posed to you the other day.
What is the difference between your "God", which is an image described by other men, and one that is imagined solely by an individual?
I don't know the difference between my God and someone elses. A difference in some people could be that some lead people to the scriptures and others lead away.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#31510 Jun 18, 2013
USA Born wrote:
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I don't know the difference between my God and someone elses. A difference in some people could be that some lead people to the scriptures and others lead away.
I am sure you are not in posession of your god

true god maybe have you as His child,
but for sure not you have Him without of His approval

also get back to the senses,and never put yourselves higher from TRUE GOD,

maybe you are higher from your own imaginary god,and diotate him, to have him as your god

you sound like church stupid deceived poor creature,deceived by Lies,fake sermons and devil spirit
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#31511 Jun 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
BTW USA - you forgot to answer a question I posed to you the other day.
What is the difference between your "God", which is an image described by other men, and one that is imagined solely by an individual?
Since you've imagined one we don't read about in the Bible perhaps you are the only person here qualified to answer this question.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#31512 Jun 18, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Yea you should go there. Nice place. Try not to get killed.
faster can get killed those who try to kills persons like BJL or dr Shrink

also your advice doesn't work

Heavenly Jerusalem is open without of key lack, only stops all criminals,gays,fornicators and all wicked sinners,stops them to enter living them in complete darkness,dark like tons of black coal mine 2000 feet under ground

so?
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#31513 Jun 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
BTW USA - you forgot to answer a question I posed to you the other day.
What is the difference between your "God", which is an image described by other men, and one that is imagined solely by an individual?
simple
you have no clue, not even knowing Bible basics,

also go away, and don't make tired people reading your cheap crap
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#31514 Jun 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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I can understand how you would prefer this to Self, instead of the "arrogance" it speaks of.
Self is not arrogance, but understanding why one does things the way they do.
FYI - no one should measure themselves upto anyone else. Looks like you failed when trying to measure up to "Paul".
Why do you think "Paul" was more enlightened than Jesus?
Please post Jesus' teaching that shows what "Paul" stated is correct.
"Self is not arrogance" smh
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#31515 Jun 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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As "Paul" expresses here - we utilize the Self to accomplish these "mind games".
Self - learn it, live it, love it.
Move past the words and understand their meanings.
You're caught up in some "mind games" alright.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#31516 Jun 18, 2013
USA Born wrote:
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So the only thing you got out of the scripture was loving your fleshly self?
2 Corinthians 10:12 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise
Very good!

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