is it right 2 b forced 2 wear a seat ...

is it right 2 b forced 2 wear a seat belt?

Created by i dont on Oct 23, 2008

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no!

it is not proven 2 save lives!

more harm than good!

in some cases!

my right 2 choose!

it takes my civil right away!

maybe!

dont know!

not right!

yes!

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“Where the beer flows like wine”

Since: Jun 08

Bizarro World

#1 Oct 23, 2008
I'm not one for any type of legislation that attempts to "save us from ourselves".
someone

Rineyville, KY

#2 Oct 23, 2008
Pigmetal wrote:
I'm not one for any type of legislation that attempts to "save us from ourselves".
Why not? Just asking.

Since: Jul 07

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#3 Oct 23, 2008
Pigmetal wrote:
I'm not one for any type of legislation that attempts to "save us from ourselves".
Amen,this mentality has brought all kinds of freedom loss to america.

These are taxes in the guise of a morality.The seatbelt tax if you will.

I mean there are people jumping out of perfectly good airplanes right now! just for the thrill, but Ive got to wear a seat belt.

The seatbelt save lives statistics are a complete sham.
When a wreck happens ,the cop asks, and I quote "where you wearing your seatbelt?"
Any one in their right mind who doesn't want a ticket says
"yes officer I was wearing my seat belt"

The cop sees the dead people lying there who can't lie, and says, hmm no seatbelt. If he had he'd still be alive like these other folks, who said they had theirs on.

These ,numbers are so beyond flawed because of the way they are derived.

“No time like the present”

Since: Jul 08

to make it happen!

#4 Oct 23, 2008
Pigmetal wrote:
I'm not one for any type of legislation that attempts to "save us from ourselves".
I agree 100%! They forced this and the helmet law down our throats here in Oregon. Pissed me off.

I personally choose to wear helmets and seat belts but I recognize the fact that an adult should be able to make choices that directly affect him or her.

I do think that children should have to wear these items, but when they become old enough to vote and pass judgement on who should run the country, they should be old enough to pass judgement on whether or not they need to wear these safety items.

Since: Jul 07

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#5 Oct 23, 2008
someone wrote:
<quoted text> Why not? Just asking.
Because it limits freedom of choice.
I want the cops to save me from the REAL criminals, not my own stupidity.

“Where the beer flows like wine”

Since: Jun 08

Bizarro World

#8 Oct 23, 2008
someone wrote:
<quoted text> Why not? Just asking.


Read the posts below your question! I don't need a LAW dictating what is "safe" for me as an individual. Choosing to not wear a seatbelt or a helmet or whatever poses no threat whatsoever to anyone else so it is no one else's business.
someone

Rineyville, KY

#9 Oct 23, 2008
Hanover Fist wrote:
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Because it limits freedom of choice.
I want the cops to save me from the REAL criminals, not my own stupidity.
I would not say that it limits your freedom. And i do agree that the cops need to save us from the real criminals. If i don't want to wear it than i don't. The cops that we have around here are the ones that were nerds in high school so now that they have a badge and a gun some of them think they are big bad asses. I say it should really be a CHOICE!!!

“No time like the present”

Since: Jul 08

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#10 Oct 23, 2008
Hanover Fist wrote:
<quoted text>
Because it limits freedom of choice.
I want the cops to save me from the REAL criminals, not my own stupidity.
Hear! Hear! Every time we pass legislation to save us from ourselves, it gives the state one more bit of control over individual freedom to choose our destiny.

Years ago I used to say that in my lifetime, I will see a situation where the government will be monitoring everything I do and where I go.

Here in Oregon they are trying hard to pass a law that says DMV will put a GPS in every car to monitor our mileage for road tax purposes.

They swear they won't use it for checking where we go with those miles. Bullshit. The first time a cop or lawyer thinks they need it for evidence, the precedent will be set.

Since: Jan 08

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#11 Oct 23, 2008
Here in Wisconsin you can ride your crotch rocket down the interstate at 65-70 mph with no helmet but don't get caught with out that seat belt in your vehicle! The seat belt law is nothing more that a crock of sh!t!
LOGIC PLEASE

Miami, FL

#12 Oct 23, 2008
A seat belt saved my life.
If not for the belt,the end of the steel guard rail,would be wearing my skull.Just inches of safety.

“No time like the present”

Since: Jul 08

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#13 Oct 23, 2008
Captain Spankie wrote:
Here in Wisconsin you can ride your crotch rocket down the interstate at 65-70 mph with no helmet but don't get caught with out that seat belt in your vehicle! The seat belt law is nothing more that a crock of sh!t!
Oh wow, I didn't know there was a state left without a helmet law. Cool.

“It's a dog's life”

Since: Jan 08

Amish Country

#14 Oct 23, 2008
Captain Spankie wrote:
Here in Wisconsin you can ride your crotch rocket down the interstate at 65-70 mph with no helmet but don't get caught with out that seat belt in your vehicle! The seat belt law is nothing more that a crock of sh!t!
I agree. In Ohio, you have to wear a seat belt but it's legal to use a cell phone while driving and ride a motorcycle without a helmet. That makes no sense at all.

“Where the beer flows like wine”

Since: Jun 08

Bizarro World

#15 Oct 23, 2008
LOGIC PLEASE wrote:
A seat belt saved my life.
If not for the belt,the end of the steel guard rail,would be wearing my skull.Just inches of safety.
Good for you and glad you are OK, but it was your choice to put it on. It should remain a choice.

“No time like the present”

Since: Jul 08

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#16 Oct 23, 2008
someone wrote:
<quoted text>I would not say that it limits your freedom. And i do agree that the cops need to save us from the real criminals. If i don't want to wear it than i don't. The cops that we have around here are the ones that were nerds in high school so now that they have a badge and a gun some of them think they are big bad asses. I say it should really be a CHOICE!!!
In your first statement you state that these laws do NOT limit freedom. But in your last sentence, you state that it "should really be a choice!!!".

You do understand that when the government removes your ability to choose (whatever the issue is), they are removing a freedom, right?

“No time like the present”

Since: Jul 08

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#17 Oct 23, 2008
3 Dog night wrote:
<quoted text>I agree. In Ohio, you have to wear a seat belt but it's legal to use a cell phone while driving and ride a motorcycle without a helmet. That makes no sense at all.
Another state without a helmet law. I thought the federal guv forced all the states in compliance years ago by dangling hiway funds as a carrot?

Glad to see there were some hold outs!

“No time like the present”

Since: Jul 08

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#18 Oct 23, 2008
LOGIC PLEASE wrote:
A seat belt saved my life.
If not for the belt,the end of the steel guard rail,would be wearing my skull.Just inches of safety.
That is good. But what is your position on personal choice?

“It's a dog's life”

Since: Jan 08

Amish Country

#19 Oct 23, 2008
Dr_Dirty wrote:
<quoted text>
Another state without a helmet law. I thought the federal guv forced all the states in compliance years ago by dangling hiway funds as a carrot?
Glad to see there were some hold outs!
We had a helmet law many years ago but it was repealed. I assumed it was because of a powerful biker lobby, but I'm not really sure.

I used to have a motorcycle in my younger days and would never ride without a helmet. That was my choice. People should be allowed to regulate their own personal safety.
someone

Rineyville, KY

#20 Oct 23, 2008
Dr_Dirty wrote:
<quoted text>
In your first statement you state that these laws do NOT limit freedom. But in your last sentence, you state that it "should really be a choice!!!".
You do understand that when the government removes your ability to choose (whatever the issue is), they are removing a freedom, right?
It is my choice. There are times i wear it and there are times i don't.

Since: Oct 07

Bellingham

#21 Oct 23, 2008
Well, the government should be able to make the safety of children their responsibilty but like the guy above said, adults should be able to decide for themselves.
You never know what's going to happen. A buddy of mine would have been killed had he had a seatbelt on because his engine came in through the dashboard. But my fiance would be dead because of a drunk driver had she not had her seatbelt on. It goes both ways.

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Since: Jul 08

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#22 Oct 23, 2008
Rick69 wrote:
Well, the government should be able to make the safety of children their responsibilty but like the guy above said, adults should be able to decide for themselves.
You never know what's going to happen. A buddy of mine would have been killed had he had a seatbelt on because his engine came in through the dashboard. But my fiance would be dead because of a drunk driver had she not had her seatbelt on. It goes both ways.
Right. The debate isn't whether or not seat belts are a good idea. It's about whether or not I have the freedom, as an adult to make that choice.

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