Spanking Children???

[Life is Precious]

BAD! VERY,VERY BAD!

[JoansDaughter121]

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[EXSF]

Brute strength is no measure of parenting skills.
Want your child to hit oither children to solve it's problems?
Just keep hitting your child and you'll raise the monster you deserve.
It's a failed parent who stoops to violence against their own children as a solution to their frustration.
Now, all you "christians" can weigh in with your faux-christian biblical quotes about beating one's children.

[Life is Precious]

I do not agree with spanking at all,I feel children can be disciplined with love and that should not involve a hand or belt. That is not why God entrusted us with our children. JMO

[Life is Precious]

EXSF wrote:

Brute strength is no measure of parenting skills.
Want your child to hit oither children to solve it's problems?
Just keep hitting your child and you'll raise the monster you deserve.
It's a failed parent who stoops to violence against their own children as a solution to their frustration.
Now, all you "christians" can weigh in with your faux-christian biblical quotes about beating one's children.

Well I am a Christian and have never laid a hand on my children so I am not sure why you are attacking Christians. I am just asking,no judging,promise,I am just wondering

[BeautifulMomof2]

Spanking is good if your not doing it to cause intense pain. I have done it for shock value and it works. My daughter looks up at me angerily and doesn't cry and walks away and doesn't do what she got in trouble for. A far cry from what I got when I was a kid, i.e. belt, hairbrush, spatula, etc. whatever was lying around. I didn't turn out bad nor did I run around hitting everybody. I have never been in jail and have never done drugs. There is kids turned adults who were spanked and became horrible people but I really don't think the spanking did it alone, do you know how ridiculous that sounds? C'mon guys!

[TEAM ME]

BeautifulMomof2 wrote:

Spanking is good if your not doing it to cause intense pain. I have done it for shock value and it works. My daughter looks up at me angerily and doesn't cry and walks away and doesn't do what she got in trouble for. A far cry from what I got when I was a kid, i.e. belt, hairbrush, spatula, etc. whatever was lying around. I didn't turn out bad nor did I run around hitting everybody. I have never been in jail and have never done drugs. There is kids turned adults who were spanked and became horrible people but I really don't think the spanking did it alone, do you know how ridiculous that sounds? C'mon guys!

I hear you Beautiful! I don't have any children myself, but man, when I got into trouble as a child, rest assured you can bet I wouldn't do it again. My mom was quick with a ruler, yardstick, spatula, houseshoe, and then when Dad got home - here came the belt. No, I was not abused. But they definitely got my attention! I am a proud, productive tax-paying citizen. I am not an abuser of people or animals. I have never been in jail. I turned out just fine and I don't regret the spankings one bit. They certainly taught me right from wrong. A swat on the behind doesn't hurt anybody.

[Ghost Rider]

Life is Precious wrote:

I do not agree with spanking at all,I feel children can be disciplined with love and that should not involve a hand or belt. That is not why God entrusted us with our children. JMO

A spanking never hurt a kid. Sure it stings, but what does the good is the embarrassment of being given one. If someone else sees the kid get spanked, it will do more good than going behind closed doors to give it. The Bible even tells you that if you spare the rod, you spoil the child. And the Bible was not promoting for children to be beaten. A spanking teaches a kid that there are penalities for doing something wrong. It also teaches the child to respect the parents and other adults. This is what is getting wrong with our society today. People don't believe in taking time to discipline their children. They wont let the child be disciplined in school. There is little to no respect for the teachers in the schools. The kids, if they feel like it do their assigned work and expect to be pushed through school reguardless of if they know the work or not. They are not prepared to face life, because they never had to do things if they didn't want to. The standard of learning has dropped from what it used to be. Instead of having to score at least 70% correct on a test to pass, they now only have to have 60% correct. This is what's wrong with America today. These kids will grow up and not be qualified and prepared to take over and run the businesses and the country. The home is not doing its job any more. It takes the mom and dad both to work to provide for the family and little Johnny or little Suzy is left to raise them selves or has a sitter that is more interested in the TV and As the World Turns, than seeing that little Johnny or little Suzy is behaving and doing what they are supposed to do.

[EXSF]

BeautifulMomof2 wrote:

Spanking is good if your not doing it to cause intense pain. I have done it for shock value and it works. My daughter looks up at me angerily and doesn't cry and walks away and doesn't do what she got in trouble for. A far cry from what I got when I was a kid, i.e. belt, hairbrush, spatula, etc. whatever was lying around. I didn't turn out bad nor did I run around hitting everybody.

Actually- you are passing the violence on to your kids.
Any sentient person can see the direct correlation between being hit and hitting others.
You do society no favors by continuing the violence.
Resorting to hitting a child is a failure by the parent- not the child.
Do you also feel free to hit an adult who is arguing with you?
Your children may...

[EXSF]

Life is Precious wrote:

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Well I am a Christian and have never laid a hand on my children so I am not sure why you are attacking Christians. I am just asking,no judging,promise,I am just wondering

The excuse usually trotted out for hitting children comes from the bible and claims that sparing the rod will spoil the child.
If you are above all that then you aren't the usual christian.

[BeautifulMomof2]

TEAM ME wrote:

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I hear you Beautiful! I don't have any children myself, but man, when I got into trouble as a child, rest assured you can bet I wouldn't do it again. My mom was quick with a ruler, yardstick, spatula, houseshoe, and then when Dad got home - here came the belt. No, I was not abused. But they definitely got my attention! I am a proud, productive tax-paying citizen. I am not an abuser of people or animals. I have never been in jail. I turned out just fine and I don't regret the spankings one bit. They certainly taught me right from wrong. A swat on the behind doesn't hurt anybody.

So true. I don't regret being spanked either. The only thing that pisses me off is if someone else takes it upon themselves to discipline my children whom I don't know.

[BeautifulMomof2]

EXSF wrote:

<quoted text>
Actually- you are passing the violence on to your kids.
Any sentient person can see the direct correlation between being hit and hitting others.
You do society no favors by continuing the violence.
Resorting to hitting a child is a failure by the parent- not the child.
Do you also feel free to hit an adult who is arguing with you?
Your children may...

Actually you aren't my dear. Bring my verified statistics that say so.

[JaneCT]

Life is Precious wrote:

BAD! VERY,VERY BAD!

Agreed.
Spanking is degrading and demeaning to the child. It's the only thing the child will remember, not the reason for the spanking - only that the person the child trust the most just whacked em.
I got spanked and this was my experience.

[Moncie]

Define spanking.

If you're talking about a swat in the butt to get their attention because they're doing something wrong, then yes it's ok in my opinion.

If you're talking about beating the daylights out of a kid, absolutely not.

[BeautifulMomof2]

Ghost Rider wrote:

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A spanking never hurt a kid. Sure it stings, but what does the good is the embarrassment of being given one. If someone else sees the kid get spanked, it will do more good than going behind closed doors to give it. The Bible even tells you that if you spare the rod, you spoil the child. And the Bible was not promoting for children to be beaten. A spanking teaches a kid that there are penalities for doing something wrong. It also teaches the child to respect the parents and other adults. This is what is getting wrong with our society today. People don't believe in taking time to discipline their children. They wont let the child be disciplined in school. There is little to no respect for the teachers in the schools. The kids, if they feel like it do their assigned work and expect to be pushed through school reguardless of if they know the work or not. They are not prepared to face life, because they never had to do things if they didn't want to. The standard of learning has dropped from what it used to be. Instead of having to score at least 70% correct on a test to pass, they now only have to have 60% correct. This is what's wrong with America today. These kids will grow up and not be qualified and prepared to take over and run the businesses and the country. The home is not doing its job any more. It takes the mom and dad both to work to provide for the family and little Johnny or little Suzy is left to raise them selves or has a sitter that is more interested in the TV and As the World Turns, than seeing that little Johnny or little Suzy is behaving and doing what they are supposed to do.

That also applies for everything else handed to kids on a silver spoon i.e. cars, clothing, etc. I earned and paid for each of my cars from age 16 to now and I have had a job since I was 15 AND paid my own way through school. Guess what? I'm 26. It isn't difficult to do if you set your mind to it and because of that, I can be very resourceful if need be. The kids now-a-days get whatever they want whenever they want it and it really gets on my nerves because I was always taught to work for what I want.

[Life is Precious]

EXSF wrote:

<quoted text>
Actually- you are passing the violence on to your kids.
Any sentient person can see the direct correlation between being hit and hitting others.
You do society no favors by continuing the violence.
Resorting to hitting a child is a failure by the parent- not the child.
Do you also feel free to hit an adult who is arguing with you?
Your children may...

I agree,I was abused growing up and swore I would break that cycle with my own children and did.My kids grew up to be well adjusted adults and are now wonderful parents to their own children. I thank God everyday the cycle was broke.

[BeautifulMomof2]

EXSF wrote:

<quoted text>
Do you also feel free to hit an adult who is arguing with you?
Your children may...

By the way, the last fight I was in was in 8th grade so your theory doesn't apply there as well.

[Life is Precious]

EXSF wrote:

<quoted text>
The excuse usually trotted out for hitting children comes from the bible and claims that sparing the rod will spoil the child.
If you are above all that then you aren't the usual christian.

Thank you:)

[Ghost Rider]

EXSF wrote:

Brute strength is no measure of parenting skills.
Want your child to hit oither children to solve it's problems?
Just keep hitting your child and you'll raise the monster you deserve.
It's a failed parent who stoops to violence against their own children as a solution to their frustration.
Now, all you "christians" can weigh in with your faux-christian biblical quotes about beating one's children.

The Christian religion does not teach a person that they are supposed to beat their children. It does teach to diciplin them. A spanking within reason is not beating the child. It teaches the child that he is to respect the parents and other adults instead of growing up to be little monsters who think that they get to tell the family what to do. It also teaches the child that there are consequences for disobedience and for doing things that are wrong.
To take little Johnny's bb gun away from him really doesn't make him any difference, he just finds something else to do.

[Ghost Rider]

BeautifulMomof2 wrote:

Spanking is good if your not doing it to cause intense pain. I have done it for shock value and it works. My daughter looks up at me angerily and doesn't cry and walks away and doesn't do what she got in trouble for. A far cry from what I got when I was a kid, i.e. belt, hairbrush, spatula, etc. whatever was lying around. I didn't turn out bad nor did I run around hitting everybody. I have never been in jail and have never done drugs. There is kids turned adults who were spanked and became horrible people but I really don't think the spanking did it alone, do you know how ridiculous that sounds? C'mon guys!

BeautifulMomof2, you will never get through to these people. They use extreme examples to try to push their ideas through just as all liberals do. As far as the behaviour of the unspanked kid and the kid that has got spankings, I had rather be around the kid that knew what a spanking was and that this would be the punishment for disobedience or doing something wrong.