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Since: Dec 06

Asheville

#1 Feb 6, 2008
Thanks to all of you atheists who seem to target Christianity! Personally, I can't understand why you are drawn to post anything at all in a Christian discussion but suffice it to say you strengthen each Christian as you do. It only proves that we Christians are followers of truth. Satan uses everything he can in his attempt to destroy Christianity including clueless atheists that are easily called by him to spew forth all kinds of garbage. So from the bottom of my heart...Thanks for strengthening my belief in Christ!

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“kein Mitleid fur die Mehrheit”

Since: Dec 06

Allen Park, Michigan

#2 Feb 6, 2008
Why must any discourse that questions your belief be an attack?

Just because someone does not believe in what you believe in does not mean you follow the truth.

I will stand and answer any questions on my belief. Why when I question or bring contradictory evidence about Christianity do I just get the run around or rudeness? These are public forums, if you don't want your belief questioned, talk somewhere else.

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Since: Dec 06

Asheville

#4 Feb 6, 2008
dukdodgers wrote:
Why must any discourse that questions your belief be an attack?
Just because someone does not believe in what you believe in does not mean you follow the truth.
I will stand and answer any questions on my belief. Why when I question or bring contradictory evidence about Christianity do I just get the run around or rudeness? These are public forums, if you don't want your belief questioned, talk somewhere else.
Fact:#1 The truth is belif in Jesus...I believe it ergo it's true
#2 Those who don't believe it are wrong. That makes you wrong.
#3 Any reaction to my expressions of belief that are negative are considered an attack (by Satan and he's using you)
#4 I have no desire to listen to any "contradictory evidence of Christianity" that you have to present because (refer back to statement #2)
#5 Whether you like it or not...to quote you, youeself "These are public forums, if you don't want your belief questioned, talk somewhere else" So intend to express #1-4 with any attitude I please and if you interpret the attitude as rudeness then you probably are correct and that's really too bad. Did I feed your poor damaged psyche

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Since: Dec 06

Allen Park, Michigan

#5 Feb 6, 2008
Jeffrey Crisp wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact:#1 The truth is belif in Jesus...I believe it ergo it's true
#2 Those who don't believe it are wrong. That makes you wrong.
#3 Any reaction to my expressions of belief that are negative are considered an attack (by Satan and he's using you)
#4 I have no desire to listen to any "contradictory evidence of Christianity" that you have to present because (refer back to statement #2)
#5 Whether you like it or not...to quote you, youeself "These are public forums, if you don't want your belief questioned, talk somewhere else" So intend to express #1-4 with any attitude I please and if you interpret the attitude as rudeness then you probably are correct and that's really too bad. Did I feed your poor damaged psyche
Seriously? I did not attack you, but I got the usual defensive response.

I love the way you assume you know my beliefs.

I did not give a single negative response to you, yet you attack me with childish quips. I asked a question, politely. I also reminded you that these are public forums and if you don't want what you believe talked about by non believers, this is not the place for it. Also, what I stated is fact, just because you believe in something does not make it the truth.
Sean P

United States

#6 Feb 6, 2008
Jeffrey Crisp wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact:#1 The truth is belif in Jesus...I believe it ergo it's true
#2 Those who don't believe it are wrong. That makes you wrong.
#3 Any reaction to my expressions of belief that are negative are considered an attack (by Satan and he's using you)
#4 I have no desire to listen to any "contradictory evidence of Christianity" that you have to present because (refer back to statement #2)
#5 Whether you like it or not...to quote you, youeself "These are public forums, if you don't want your belief questioned, talk somewhere else" So intend to express #1-4 with any attitude I please and if you interpret the attitude as rudeness then you probably are correct and that's really too bad. Did I feed your poor damaged psyche
You are obviously a troll looking for some action so I will join in.

Fact:#1 The sky is made of cotton clouds and Martian Tears.
#2: The earth was created by the all powerful Flying Spaghetti Monster (Christians will tell you different because they are wrong and are being used by the "no carb" dieters)
#3: Jesus mows my lawn.
#4: If you open your mind you will be touched by the noodly appendage and see the truth.

Seriously, lets not "attack" religions. Lets just put an end to the dangerous irrational thought and superstition that religion perpetuates. Christian, jew, islamic, buddust, chrisnia, pegan, monotheistic, polytheistic, Greek, Roman, Norse...it's all the same story with different characters.

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Since: Oct 07

Mankato, MN

#7 Feb 6, 2008
Sean P wrote:
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You are obviously a troll looking for some action so I will join in.
Fact:#1 The sky is made of cotton clouds and Martian Tears.
#2: The earth was created by the all powerful Flying Spaghetti Monster (Christians will tell you different because they are wrong and are being used by the "no carb" dieters)
#3: Jesus mows my lawn.
#4: If you open your mind you will be touched by the noodly appendage and see the truth.
Seriously, lets not "attack" religions. Lets just put an end to the dangerous irrational thought and superstition that religion perpetuates. Christian, jew, islamic, buddust, chrisnia, pegan, monotheistic, polytheistic, Greek, Roman, Norse...it's all the same story with different characters.
Well said and I agree, same shit differant day.
Traveler

Naperville, IL

#8 Feb 6, 2008
Jeffrey Crisp wrote:
I can't understand why you are drawn to post anything at all in a Christian discussion
Topix is not a christian discussion, its a news aggregate forum

but answer me this, why do christians invade/attack the sci-tech section of Topix?

“What?”

Since: Oct 07

Charleston SC

#9 Feb 6, 2008
Traveler wrote:
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Topix is not a christian discussion, its a news aggregate forum
but answer me this, why do christians invade/attack the sci-tech section of Topix?
I agree. Traveler, I am a Christian however I like to see what people are discussing in the Sci-tech section and it seems every topic is taken over by zealous nut bags. I can't understand that.

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#10 Feb 6, 2008
1) Since other people believe just as fervently in their deities, belief is obviously not proof of truth. There is no actual historic evidence that your jesus ever lived.
2) Until you can prove your deity exists, we are not wrong. The burden of proof is on the positive assertion--that there is a god. No one has to prove a negative.
3) Your opinion on anyone's motivations are strictly subjective. Prove the existence of satan before saying that someone else is following him.
4) This is the equivalent fo a three year old sticking his fingers in his ear and shouting so he can't hear something he finds disagreeable.
5) I wouldn't be accusing anyone else of having a damaged psyche based on what you have posted...
Jeffrey Crisp wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact:#1 The truth is belif in Jesus...I believe it ergo it's true
#2 Those who don't believe it are wrong. That makes you wrong.
#3 Any reaction to my expressions of belief that are negative are considered an attack (by Satan and he's using you)
#4 I have no desire to listen to any "contradictory evidence of Christianity" that you have to present because (refer back to statement #2)
#5 Whether you like it or not...to quote you, youeself "These are public forums, if you don't want your belief questioned, talk somewhere else" So intend to express #1-4 with any attitude I please and if you interpret the attitude as rudeness then you probably are correct and that's really too bad. Did I feed your poor damaged psyche
Redhead

Davenport, IA

#11 Feb 6, 2008
Sean P wrote:
<quoted text>
You are obviously a troll looking for some action so I will join in.
Fact:#1 The sky is made of cotton clouds and Martian Tears.
#2: The earth was created by the all powerful Flying Spaghetti Monster (Christians will tell you different because they are wrong and are being used by the "no carb" dieters)
#3: Jesus mows my lawn.
#4: If you open your mind you will be touched by the noodly appendage and see the truth.
Seriously, lets not "attack" religions. Lets just put an end to the dangerous irrational thought and superstition that religion perpetuates. Christian, jew, islamic, buddust, chrisnia, pegan, monotheistic, polytheistic, Greek, Roman, Norse...it's all the same story with different characters.
funny and true

“Mind Your Business!!”

Since: Aug 07

Utah

#12 Feb 6, 2008
Jeffrey Crisp wrote:
Thanks to all of you atheists who seem to target Christianity! Personally, I can't understand why you are drawn to post anything at all in a Christian discussion but suffice it to say you strengthen each Christian as you do. It only proves that we Christians are followers of truth. Satan uses everything he can in his attempt to destroy Christianity including clueless atheists that are easily called by him to spew forth all kinds of garbage. So from the bottom of my heart...Thanks for strengthening my belief in Christ!
You seem a little grumpy.. Why?

“Mind Your Business!!”

Since: Aug 07

Utah

#13 Feb 6, 2008
Sean P wrote:
<quoted text>
You are obviously a troll looking for some action so I will join in.
Fact:#1 The sky is made of cotton clouds and Martian Tears.
#2: The earth was created by the all powerful Flying Spaghetti Monster (Christians will tell you different because they are wrong and are being used by the "no carb" dieters)
#3: Jesus mows my lawn.
#4: If you open your mind you will be touched by the noodly appendage and see the truth.
Seriously, lets not "attack" religions. Lets just put an end to the dangerous irrational thought and superstition that religion perpetuates. Christian, jew, islamic, buddust, chrisnia, pegan, monotheistic, polytheistic, Greek, Roman, Norse...it's all the same story with different characters.
Jesus mows your lawn.. Hmmm.. Bill mows mine!
Foxxe47

Fairport, NY

#14 Feb 6, 2008
Jeffrey Crisp wrote:
Thanks to all of you atheists who seem to target Christianity! Personally, I can't understand why you are drawn to post anything at all in a Christian discussion but suffice it to say you strengthen each Christian as you do. It only proves that we Christians are followers of truth. Satan uses everything he can in his attempt to destroy Christianity including clueless atheists that are easily called by him to spew forth all kinds of garbage. So from the bottom of my heart...Thanks for strengthening my belief in Christ!
It would seem to me that anyone secure in his beliefs would not feel threatened by anyone's else's beliefs. Why would you even notice or care?

Also, the term christianity itself is not your own domain; otherwise you would not make it a christian vs. atheist game. Anyone following Christ is a Christian....it is not the sole domain of born agains, although they do like to appropriate the term for themselves.

So that means you have a whole spectrum of people in between who are Christians but who may not agree with the fundamentalist sects of Christianity. That includes many you refer to as "atheist". That is a private matter between an individual and God and has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone else.

It's not up to us to decide who is a Christian any more than it is to decide who is an atheist or agnostic or somewhere in between. We're all at a different place along that road working at our own speed. All labels do is divide us, and that's not what Christ intended. He meant for us to learn to get along in this world with those who don't agree with us....THAT'S the real test of a Christian...not merely announcing that you're Christian and using it as a club against others.
NORMAND winnipeg

Winnipeg, Canada

#15 Feb 6, 2008
Jeffrey Crisp wrote:
Thanks to all of you atheists who seem to target Christianity! Personally, I can't understand why you are drawn to post anything at all in a Christian discussion but suffice it to say you strengthen each Christian as you do. It only proves that we Christians are followers of truth. Satan uses everything he can in his attempt to destroy Christianity including clueless atheists that are easily called by him to spew forth all kinds of garbage. So from the bottom of my heart...Thanks for strengthening my belief in Christ!
--- JEFFREY VERY GOOD POST... THANKYOU AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY... THANKYOU AGAIN...
Darwin is DEAD

Santa Barbara, CA

#16 Feb 6, 2008
But the anti-Theists of Darwinian scientism are incapable of "seeing" since one must be born again to see reality correctly.

Most of these hateful closed-minded twits are just young and naive. But thank God, that life has a way of making even the most arrogant and blind of fools humble. Luckily for them, God has designed life that way. If he didn't many of these 'anti-Theist' types would willfully go to hell in their bucket of anti-intellectual 'scientism' idiocy.

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#17 Feb 6, 2008
Your irony cup overfloweth.

There are christians who have no problem with evolution and Darwin. Hell, they taught it in my catholic school back int he 60's and 70's.

You talk about being anti-intellectual and then expound the glories of being "born again"--a state of mind solely dependent on emotionalism. You dismiss science in favor of faith--that is about as anti-intellectual as one can be.
Darwin is DEAD wrote:
But the anti-Theists of Darwinian scientism are incapable of "seeing" since one must be born again to see reality correctly.
Most of these hateful closed-minded twits are just young and naive. But thank God, that life has a way of making even the most arrogant and blind of fools humble. Luckily for them, God has designed life that way. If he didn't many of these 'anti-Theist' types would willfully go to hell in their bucket of anti-intellectual 'scientism' idiocy.

“Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici ”

Since: Dec 07

Long Island

#18 Feb 6, 2008
Jeffrey Crisp wrote:
Thanks to all of you atheists who seem to target Christianity! Personally, I can't understand why you are drawn to post anything at all in a Christian discussion but suffice it to say you strengthen each Christian as you do. It only proves that we Christians are followers of truth. Satan uses everything he can in his attempt to destroy Christianity including clueless atheists that are easily called by him to spew forth all kinds of garbage. So from the bottom of my heart...Thanks for strengthening my belief in Christ!
No offense but why don't you only post in the Christianity section instead of the top stories section? That way, you can speak with those of a like mind with less ridicule.

And I must say that in my attempts to be polite and simply have a discussion, I am called evil, sick, depraved, and "wrong" when I said nothing of the kind. Perhaps respect needs to be learned on both ends.
whatever

Windsor, CO

#20 Feb 6, 2008
Cpetr13 wrote:
1) Since other people believe just as fervently in their deities, belief is obviously not proof of truth. There is no actual historic evidence that your jesus ever lived...

<quoted text>
Addressing your first point(of many) http://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-exist.h...
this lists several historical references to Christ.

I also want to remind any brothers or sisters not to speak out of anger in these forums, for it does not convey the loving attitude that Christ would want any of His followers to represent Him with.
Another Mom

Pearl River, NY

#21 Feb 6, 2008
Jeffrey Crisp wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact:#1 The truth is belif in Jesus...I believe it ergo it's true
#2 Those who don't believe it are wrong. That makes you wrong.
#3 Any reaction to my expressions of belief that are negative are considered an attack (by Satan and he's using you)
#4 I have no desire to listen to any "contradictory evidence of Christianity" that you have to present because (refer back to statement #2)
#5 Whether you like it or not...to quote you, youeself "These are public forums, if you don't want your belief questioned, talk somewhere else" So intend to express #1-4 with any attitude I please and if you interpret the attitude as rudeness then you probably are correct and that's really too bad. Did I feed your poor damaged psyche
Hi Jeff,
I won't stay in this one too long... just wanted to let you know that I, too, am a Christian. I would honestly love if everyone became a Christian. However, it doesn't work like that. 1- We are all created in God's image.
2- God gave us free will.
3- Jesus, early in His ministry, went out to the Gentiles. He did not go to pick fights and start trouble.

Hope you see where I'm going with this. I know all about the wrath of God and I have a very healthy fear and respect for/of my Heavenly Father. But I also live with His mercy every day. That He would accept me new every day is beyond my comprehension! I feel called to do the same for others...

Please show some of God's love?

Thanks! Off to Ash Wednesday service...
Another Mom

Pearl River, NY

#22 Feb 6, 2008
NYPagan wrote:
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No offense but why don't you only post in the Christianity section instead of the top stories section? That way, you can speak with those of a like mind with less ridicule.
And I must say that in my attempts to be polite and simply have a discussion, I am called evil, sick, depraved, and "wrong" when I said nothing of the kind. Perhaps respect needs to be learned on both ends.
I am at the polar opposite of your belief - but the VERY LEAST I - and any person, regardless of ideology - should do is treat one another with respect and kindness. The VERY MOST would be LOVE... I see no reason why not the latter...

You are 1000% correct.

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