Wayne Doesn't Think WIP Deserves a Memorial Thread

[ChinsRule]

On 'R.I.P. WiP,' "Wayne" wrote:

Wayne wrote:

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You are SO wrong in what you say here,,,,,,,,, Jesus was NOT tolerant of any "religion" of His day OR this one. In fact He said that any one who tried to come to God by any way OTHER than Him was a thief and a robber. I will NOT let a departed pagan be treated like some spiritual guru!! HAte me all you want, I really don't give a rats ass. She was told many, MANY times of the true way which was Jesus Christ and she despised Him and wished Christianity would vanish, all the time spouting the lies of many gods and all that new age garbage. She lost her parents at a young age. That is sad but many have lost their parents at a young age and wish to be joined with them again and know the only Way to do that is through Christ Jesus. WIP disdained any attempt to tell her this and clung to her OWN way. That won't work.
Yes, God loved her enough that He sent His only Begotten Son to die for her sins and in her stead but what did she do with that precious Gift?? She trampled it under her feet. DON'T make a martyr of a pagan!!

Wayne is insistent upon continuing to mar WIP's memorial page with his judgment of everyone from Atheists to Agnostics to Deists to Christians because Wayne is filled with anger and seems to want to ruin a lovely thread for everyone.

Accordingly, i have created this thread for Wayne to vent and say as he wishes about WIP, those who love/respect/admire her and her strong stance of her beliefs, and about those who feel her loss.

Please join in in either your support of, or your stance against, Wayne.

Thank you for your participation.

WIP? This one's for you, girl!

[water_nymph]

It really does not matter what one says about Wayne. He lives in 'Wayne's World', remember?
It's an impenetrable world where only his make-believe lives and only his version of an angry, hateful God exists for him.
Someday he will escape and won't know what to do with himself, but until then, he's all curled up with a firebrand and a little picture book of the hell and it's demons.
He's perfectly content to draw stick figures in the flames of all those who have more knowledge, kindness, compassion and understanding than he does.
I suggest we not ever try to enter into his version of morality---or lack thereof.

[DaniGirl123]

I did not get a long w/ WIP, but I was very saddened to hear that she had passed. I thought it was a joke.

I do not wish death upon anyone. I wish her family all the best with their grief.

[LEE]

AWWW COME ON WAYNE, WHAT MAKES YOU SO MAD? THIS YOUNG GIRL IS GONE... THINK OF ALL THAT LOVED HER.. CAN'T YOU JUST LET GO OF WHAT EVER YOUR FEELINGS WERE TOWARDS HER AND RESPECT THOSE THAT CARED? HER FAMILY? THESE PEOPLE LOVED HER.. TRY TO FEEL THERE PAIN. AND PRAYER WOULD NOT HURT...

[Janine for Truth]

okay Chins. i am here. what you got?

[someone]

I think Janine is the only one who has been honest on the RIP WiP thread. Enough with this nonsense and arguing

[Matt from Akron]

someone wrote:

I think Janine is the only one who has been honest on the RIP WiP thread. Enough with this nonsense and arguing

Everyone has been honest, to my knowledge, as far as their recollections of WiP go. Like eyewitness at a crime scene, so too do people look at someone from different levels of perception. So not everyone is going to agree what WiP was trying to say when she discussed something as deeply personal and complicated as her own spiritual beliefs.

As far as I'm concerned, the RIP WiP thread was going fine until that twisted insane little butt-munch Wayne came in to specifically wreck it with his vile spew. THAT is the issue, not who is right or wrong about this or that.

[NorCal88]

ChinsRule wrote:

On 'R.I.P. WiP,' "Wayne" wrote:
<quoted text>
Wayne is insistent upon continuing to mar WIP's memorial page with his judgment of everyone from Atheists to Agnostics to Deists to Christians because Wayne is filled with anger and seems to want to ruin a lovely thread for everyone.
Accordingly, i have created this thread for Wayne to vent and say as he wishes about WIP, those who love/respect/admire her and her strong stance of her beliefs, and about those who feel her loss.
Please join in in either your support of, or your stance against, Wayne.
Thank you for your participation.
WIP? This one's for you, girl!

It is so sad that a good christian like wayne would be so shallow. WIP was funny and argumentative and wayne is just PO'd because WIP kicked his Arse on several occasions. Wayne will find out how he will spend eternity in time and i hope he can justify his comments to his god when the time comes. I don't believe but he does so let his soul be in tourment for his actions, the greatest hell lived is the hell in ones own mind, not that he has much of a mind.

[ChinsRule]

water_nymph wrote:

It really does not matter what one says about Wayne. He lives in 'Wayne's World', remember?
It's an impenetrable world where only his make-believe lives and only his version of an angry, hateful God exists for him.
Someday he will escape and won't know what to do with himself, but until then, he's all curled up with a firebrand and a little picture book of the hell and it's demons.
He's perfectly content to draw stick figures in the flames of all those who have more knowledge, kindness, compassion and understanding than he does.
I suggest we not ever try to enter into his version of morality---or lack thereof.

Hey, WN ~ how ya doin', hun? You makin' it?

No, i cannot believe as Wayne does; however, he feels he has something he needs to say and, since we all have a right to speak, i had hoped to give him this opportunity to express himself .... and it appears to have grown to a couple of others .... without taking any more dignity away from WIP's memorial thread.

One's beliefs is a great topic to indulge in when everyone can be respectful toward everyone else. But you and i already know that.:o)

I hope you're okay. You've been on my mind the past couple of days.

*hugz*

[ChinsRule]

Janine for Truth wrote:

okay Chins. i am here. what you got?

Well, the first thing i got was distracted outside ... i apologize!~*LOL*~ Now i need to go back to the memorial thread and figure out what we were going to talk about. I'll find the post and do a copy/paste in here to reply to (hope you're okay with that).

Back in a bit. Of course, it's been a couple of hours so life may have interrupted you.*L* I truly do apologize!

[ChinsRule]

I got two nastycons for my first post! Can ya beat that?*LOL*

Janine for Truth wrote:

okay Chins. i am here. what you got?

Okay, here's what you wrote on WIP's memorial thread:

Janine for Truth wrote:

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i agree. just one correction.very important
we did not murder GOD'S son. Jesus the CHrist, laid down his life.
saying we murdered him, makes Him weak and us strong. we couldn't murder God if we tried. If we could, we wouldn't need GOd
peace

I respectfully disagree with your opinion that "...we did not murder GOD'S son."

When Pilate found no reason to charge Jesus with any crime and, accordingly, stated that he was setting Him free, the people demanded He be crucified. Because it was the custom at the time to release a prison as part of Passover, the people demanded the murderer, Barrabas, be released and Jesus be crucified.

I understand that Jesus gave up His life, but i do not believe that it can be argued that the people did, in fact, murder him.

To set a man free who was known to be a murdered and to demand the death of one who had been declared innocent by Pilate, is out and out murder.

Your thoughts?

I have to run out for a while, but i'll be back.

:o)

[Wayne]

lol I'm getting all kinds of threads in my honor since WIP crossed over. Listen folks, I didn't idolize WIP the way some of you star-crossed fools did, ok? She could care less about Jesus Christ and made it obvious many times. I won't miss her garbage spewing lies about the "other side" either. She met the devil and fell in love with him, that's all. Now she is dead, she can't come back. I'm sure she is bummed to find that out now, that it really WAS the devil that was lying to her. She believed in a spiritual world, true but now she sees what kind of spirits she was communing with. Another thing I find curious is that some atheists even idolized her. I wonder why? Because anything that attempts to tear down Jesus Christ is A-OK in their book, that's why. WIP didn't tell the atheists they were headed for hell so they didn't see her as a threat, that's all. Inother words, she made them feel SPA-CIAL! ANd in their self centered worls that is all they want, attention and she was OK with that.

So, make an idol out of your favorite spiritualist, I don't care. Ridicule me and hate me, I don't care. I'm not here to please you people anyways. I'm here to tell you the ONLY Way to salvation is through and by Jesus Christ and Him ONLY. WIP knows that now but it's too late.

[Wayne]

ChinsRule wrote:

I got two nastycons for my first post! Can ya beat that?*LOL*
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Okay, here's what you wrote on WIP's memorial thread:
<quoted text>
I respectfully disagree with your opinion that "...we did not murder GOD'S son."
When Pilate found no reason to charge Jesus with any crime and, accordingly, stated that he was setting Him free, the people demanded He be crucified. Because it was the custom at the time to release a prison as part of Passover, the people demanded the murderer, Barrabas, be released and Jesus be crucified.
I understand that Jesus gave up His life, but i do not believe that it can be argued that the people did, in fact, murder him.
To set a man free who was known to be a murdered and to demand the death of one who had been declared innocent by Pilate, is out and out murder.
Your thoughts?
I have to run out for a while, but i'll be back.
:o)

Here's your answer. Odd, you found THAT quote but couldn't find THIS one?

John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

John 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

[Matt from Akron]

Wayne wrote:

lol I'm getting all kinds of threads in my honor since WIP crossed over. Listen folks, I didn't idolize WIP the way some of you star-crossed fools did, ok? She could care less about Jesus Christ and made it obvious many times. I won't miss her garbage spewing lies about the "other side" either. She met the devil and fell in love with him, that's all. Now she is dead, she can't come back. I'm sure she is bummed to find that out now, that it really WAS the devil that was lying to her. She believed in a spiritual world, true but now she sees what kind of spirits she was communing with. Another thing I find curious is that some atheists even idolized her. I wonder why? Because anything that attempts to tear down Jesus Christ is A-OK in their book, that's why. WIP didn't tell the atheists they were headed for hell so they didn't see her as a threat, that's all. Inother words, she made them feel SPA-CIAL! ANd in their self centered worls that is all they want, attention and she was OK with that.
So, make an idol out of your favorite spiritualist, I don't care. Ridicule me and hate me, I don't care. I'm not here to please you people anyways. I'm here to tell you the ONLY Way to salvation is through and by Jesus Christ and Him ONLY. WIP knows that now but it's too late.

Wayne, no one "idolized" WiP. No one.

Everyone was just trying to remember their deceased friend in a dignified manner. But you couldn't handle that simple act of respect and decency, could you? No, you had to barge in and horribly abuse not just her, but everybody who had a kind word to say about her.

I know these words are lost on your clueless, brainwashed ass, but you are a despicable human being to do the terrible thing you did - and are still doing. If you think your behavior has been justifiable, you're insane. You're a horrible person and a shitty example of Christianity.

You have no compassion for others, or love in your heart. You are totally filled with hate, you're selfish and show no respect for the dead or the people that mourn them - whatever their beliefs may be. You're nothing but a slimy opportunist who drives people away from Christ. Evil. That's what you are. Even many of your fellow fundies think so, from what I saw in those threads.

You're a total, miserable, 100% failure - as both a Christian and as a human being. Your every post proves it, denying it won't get you anywhere with me or just about anyone else here. You sicken me. You are worse than you think any atheist is, or Wiccan, or agnostic, or pagan, or moderate Christian. They are all better than you, because they have the ability to show decency, respect, compassion and love for their fellow man. You have none of those qualities, and are therefore a sick, ugly twisted little soul.

You always get off on telling people who don't think exactly like you do they're going to hell. I think *you* might be the one in for a big surprise, if you don't repent and change your wicked and sinful ways. Doing evil in the name of Jesus doesn't get you the key to the Pearly Gates.

I know you don't get it, and you never will because you are so phenomenally deluded, vain, prideful, angry, arrogant and bitter. But just thought I'd let you know anyway.

[Wayne]

Matt from Akron wrote:

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Wayne, no one "idolized" WiP. No one.
Everyone was just trying to remember their deceased friend in a dignified manner. But you couldn't handle that simple act of respect and decency, could you? No, you had to barge in and horribly abuse not just her, but everybody who had a kind word to say about her.
I know these words are lost on your clueless, brainwashed ass, but you are a despicable human being to do the terrible thing you did - and are still doing. If you think your behavior has been justifiable, you're insane. You're a horrible person and a shitty example of Christianity.
You have no compassion for others, or love in your heart. You are totally filled with hate, you're selfish and show no respect for the dead or the people that mourn them - whatever their beliefs may be. You're nothing but a slimy opportunist who drives people away from Christ. Evil. That's what you are. Even many of your fellow fundies think so, from what I saw in those threads.
You're a total, miserable, 100% failure - as both a Christian and as a human being. Your every post proves it, denying it won't get you anywhere with me or just about anyone else here. You sicken me. You are worse than you think any atheist is, or Wiccan, or agnostic, or pagan, or moderate Christian. They are all better than you, because they have the ability to show decency, respect, compassion and love for their fellow man. You have none of those qualities, and are therefore a sick, ugly twisted little soul.
You always get off on telling people who don't think exactly like you do they're going to hell. I think *you* might be the one in for a big surprise, if you don't repent and change your wicked and sinful ways. Doing evil in the name of Jesus doesn't get you the key to the Pearly Gates.
I know you don't get it, and you never will because you are so phenomenally deluded, vain, prideful, angry, arrogant and bitter. But just thought I'd let you know anyway.

Dignified? She sure wasn't dignified. She could be an ass when she wanted to, as we all can.

The ones who had a kind word for her acts as if she was some great spiritualist filled with wisdom. Bullshit!

As far as the rest of your post? I could care less Matt and you are a boring piece of shit, ok?

[water_nymph]

ChinsRule wrote:

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Hey, WN ~ how ya doin', hun? You makin' it?
No, i cannot believe as Wayne does; however, he feels he has something he needs to say and, since we all have a right to speak, i had hoped to give him this opportunity to express himself .... and it appears to have grown to a couple of others .... without taking any more dignity away from WIP's memorial thread.
One's beliefs is a great topic to indulge in when everyone can be respectful toward everyone else. But you and i already know that.:o)
I hope you're okay. You've been on my mind the past couple of days.
*hugz*

Hugz to you too. WiP's passing did something to me I don't understand. We'd never met. I just think a really brilliant light has gone out.
Yes, it's a free public forum, as I have said so many times.
I had become so negative over the past couple of months, I decided to take a break from topix altogether. I did that for a day or two. I'd just like to find some places where you can have a rational discussion.
I hope you are doing well.

[water_nymph]

Wayne wrote:

lol I'm getting all kinds of threads in my honor since WIP crossed over. Listen folks, I didn't idolize WIP the way some of you star-crossed fools did, ok? She could care less about Jesus Christ and made it obvious many times. I won't miss her garbage spewing lies about the "other side" either. She met the devil and fell in love with him, that's all. Now she is dead, she can't come back. I'm sure she is bummed to find that out now, that it really WAS the devil that was lying to her. She believed in a spiritual world, true but now she sees what kind of spirits she was communing with. Another thing I find curious is that some atheists even idolized her. I wonder why? Because anything that attempts to tear down Jesus Christ is A-OK in their book, that's why. WIP didn't tell the atheists they were headed for hell so they didn't see her as a threat, that's all. Inother words, she made them feel SPA-CIAL! ANd in their self centered worls that is all they want, attention and she was OK with that.
So, make an idol out of your favorite spiritualist, I don't care. Ridicule me and hate me, I don't care. I'm not here to please you people anyways. I'm here to tell you the ONLY Way to salvation is through and by Jesus Christ and Him ONLY. WIP knows that now but it's too late.

Playing God again, Wayne? How do you know what God's decision is about WiP? How do you know what their relationship was at the moment of her death? You don't. You are just shoring up that shifting sand you call your relationship with god. You don't really have one, Wayne, or you'd know that you are making people run as fast as they can from what you call 'truth'.
Maybe at your last breath you will see the real truth. Christ was kind. He healed the sick, raised the dead and defended those who were ignorantly accused.
That's something to think about.

[water_nymph]

Matt from Akron wrote:

<quoted text>
Wayne, no one "idolized" WiP. No one.
Everyone was just trying to remember their deceased friend in a dignified manner. But you couldn't handle that simple act of respect and decency, could you? No, you had to barge in and horribly abuse not just her, but everybody who had a kind word to say about her.
I know these words are lost on your clueless, brainwashed ass, but you are a despicable human being to do the terrible thing you did - and are still doing. If you think your behavior has been justifiable, you're insane. You're a horrible person and a shitty example of Christianity.
You have no compassion for others, or love in your heart. You are totally filled with hate, you're selfish and show no respect for the dead or the people that mourn them - whatever their beliefs may be. You're nothing but a slimy opportunist who drives people away from Christ. Evil. That's what you are. Even many of your fellow fundies think so, from what I saw in those threads.
You're a total, miserable, 100% failure - as both a Christian and as a human being. Your every post proves it, denying it won't get you anywhere with me or just about anyone else here. You sicken me. You are worse than you think any atheist is, or Wiccan, or agnostic, or pagan, or moderate Christian. They are all better than you, because they have the ability to show decency, respect, compassion and love for their fellow man. You have none of those qualities, and are therefore a sick, ugly twisted little soul.
You always get off on telling people who don't think exactly like you do they're going to hell. I think *you* might be the one in for a big surprise, if you don't repent and change your wicked and sinful ways. Doing evil in the name of Jesus doesn't get you the key to the Pearly Gates.
I know you don't get it, and you never will because you are so phenomenally deluded, vain, prideful, angry, arrogant and bitter. But just thought I'd let you know anyway.

Jealousy is just another part of Wayne's personality. Though he will adamantly deny it, it shines through loud and clear.
The 'sin' of jealousy can be added to the things you listed above.

[Idi O Syncrasy]

A man noticed his young son came stomping into the house with an angry look on his face.
"What is the matter?" the father asked.
"That darn Tommy made me look like a fool in front of everybody. I'm so mad at him, I wish he would die!" said the son.
The father led his son out to the back of the house and lifted a bag of coal from the shed into a wheelbarrow.
His son followed along as they rolled the coal toward the clothesline.
His father said,"I want you to throw all these pieces of coal at that white shirt hanging on the line. Each time you hit the shirt, think of hitting Tommy."

So he left his son throwing coal at the clean white shirt on the clothesline.
A little later he walked out and found his son had emptied the coal, angrily throwing lumps at the white shirt.
The father asked his son,"Do you fell better now?"
The son said,"Yes, I hit the shirt many times and it felt good."
The father pointed to his son's dirty clothes all covered with coal and said,"Look at that shirt on the line, your angry throws made very little dirt on the shirt."
"But Look at all the dirt on you! Hate is like that."

Peace be with you all.

[Wayne]

water_nymph wrote:

<quoted text>Jealousy is just another part of Wayne's personality. Though he will adamantly deny it, it shines through loud and clear.
The 'sin' of jealousy can be added to the things you listed above.

We can add deluded to your personality chart. lol