Best Marijuana Legalization Strategy

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#25 Jun 24, 2013
Why is Marijuana Illegal?(cont.)

2. It has "no accepted medical use."
Marijuana seems to yield considerable medical benefits for many Americans with ailments ranging from glaucoma to cancer, but these benefits have not been accepted well enough, on a national level. Medical use of marijuana remains a serious national controversy.
In order to fight the argument that marijuana has no medical use, legalization advocates need to highlight the effects it has had on the lives of people who have used the drug for medical reasons.

3. It has been historically linked with narcotics, such as heroin.
Early antidrug laws were written to regulate narcotics--opium and its derivatives, such as heroin and morphine. Marijuana, though not a narcotic, was described as such--along with cocaine.
The association stuck, and there is now a vast gulf in the American consciousness between "normal" recreational drugs, such as alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine, and "abnormal" recreational drugs, such as heroin, cocaine, and methamphetamine. Marijuana is generally associated with the latter category, which is why it can be convincingly portrayed as a "gateway drug."

4. It is associated with unfashionable lifestyles.
Marijuana is often thought of as a drug for hippies and losers. Since it's hard to feel enthusiastic about the prospects of enabling people to become hippies and losers, imposing criminal sanctions for marijuana possession functions as a form of communal "tough love."
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Doctor REALITY

Conway, AR

#26 Jun 24, 2013
Protester wrote:
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1. That’s an opinion I’d expect from AR.
2. Idiot: Since marijuana is BENEFICIAL, your comparison between two different things is as stupid as comparing hard liquor to been, and as dumb, so you‘re obviously not even close to being intelligent enough to be a doctor, or in touch with reality.
Who are you, COWARD??: http://www.bing.com/videos/search...

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#27 Jun 25, 2013
So, YOU haven't got the guts to give your name, yet you want me to?
You're a MORON.
Plus, you're one of the idiot masses, but it's the idiot masses who are the ones hiding behind their guns, etc. and are dangerous for intelligent liberals.
Why? Because they HATE, HATE, HATE people who are smarter, better people, etc.
JEALOUSY has been one of the worst sins from the beginning, and you have only ONE REASON to want the intelligent people on Topix exposed coward, and it's pure evil.

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#28 Jun 25, 2013
People, fight back. Take this poll:

Those who post real names, whether correct or not
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Charlie Sheen

Matthews, NC

#29 Jun 25, 2013
LONG LIVE GE Capital! KEEP CLEARING OUT THOSE DEADBEATS!

Since: Mar 11

Melbourne, Australia

#30 Jun 26, 2013
I agree with most of this, from what I have read. It certainly seems to be fantastic for seizures, and agree we should be using it all of it's other amazing uses power, paper, fabric, rope, canvas. Yes the only reason is the finding of oil, and the use as a drug which helped self righteous rich put an end to it all. Now we know this, we need to go back. I believe a University in Australia is doing all kinds of trials on Hemp, for practical use not medical? growing it in Tasmania (tiny island south of mainland Australia), could be wrong that's happened before!

Since: Mar 11

Melbourne, Australia

#31 Jun 26, 2013
Though I have met many people who abuse the drug. Some manage well, but there are others who don't function well at all.
As we know the earlier one starts drugs including alcohol, the more likely they will have addictions. I have met teenagers that stupid parents have allowed them to smoke dope, they became anti social, a blob, sleeping all day, awake all night playing stupid games, smoking dope and drinking too.
How do we stop that aspect of it?

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#32 Jun 26, 2013
Protester wrote:
So, YOU haven't got the guts to give your name, yet you want me to?
You're a MORON.
Plus, you're one of the idiot masses, but it's the idiot masses who are the ones hiding behind their guns, etc. and are dangerous for intelligent liberals.
Why? Because they HATE, HATE, HATE people who are smarter, better people, etc.
JEALOUSY has been one of the worst sins from the beginning, and you have only ONE REASON to want the intelligent people on Topix exposed coward, and it's pure evil.
But you're not bitter...

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#33 Jun 26, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
LONG LIVE GE Capital! KEEP CLEARING OUT THOSE DEADBEATS!
This pathetic loser keeps promoting treason.
I've wasted too much time answering him already at:
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#34 Jun 26, 2013
GE whistle-blower complaints
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T4NDMKH...
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Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#35 Jun 26, 2013
Protester wrote:
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This pathetic loser keeps promoting treason.
I've wasted too much time answering him already at:
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Pay your loan back deadbeat, it's the right thing to do morally and legally, blaming others because you are a deadbeat is not.

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#36 Jun 26, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
I'm not sure WHY God made the cannabis plant, but just like tobacco leaves, He didn't make it for people to consume into their lungs, or to make money off of it.
How do you know that? Got a direct line to God, do you? What about all the other plants used in everyday pharmacology? Think Fox Glove shouldn't be used for profit? Not using plants for profit? Better tell that to the pharmy corps since most medicine are made from...WAIT FOR IT.....

PLANTS!

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#37 Jun 26, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
LONG LIVE GE Capital! KEEP CLEARING OUT THOSE DEADBEATS!
SPEAKING OF DEADBEATS.....GE COMES TO MIND

General Electric Avoids Taxes By Keeping $108 Billion Overseas

The company with the most profits parked overseas is General Electric, according to a new Bloomberg analysis of 83 corporations.

GE said in a Feb. 26 regulatory filing that it was holding $108 billion in profits overseas as of the end of last year. That is up from $102 billion a year before. GE said in the filing that it reinvested most of these profits in foreign business operations and does not intend to bring those profits back to the U.S.

The practice of holding profits overseas has been highlighted as a strategy to avoid paying taxes. GE paid no U.S. taxes at all in 2010....

...Though it has been earning billions in profits, it paid an average tax rate of just 1.8 percent between 2002 and 2011...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/11/gene...

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#38 Jun 28, 2013
Nancy Botwin wrote:
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SPEAKING OF DEADBEATS.....GE COMES TO MIND
General Electric Avoids Taxes By Keeping $108 Billion Overseas
The company with the most profits parked overseas is General Electric, according to a new Bloomberg analysis of 83 corporations.
GE said in a Feb. 26 regulatory filing that it was holding $108 billion in profits overseas as of the end of last year. That is up from $102 billion a year before. GE said in the filing that it reinvested most of these profits in foreign business operations and does not intend to bring those profits back to the U.S.
The practice of holding profits overseas has been highlighted as a strategy to avoid paying taxes. GE paid no U.S. taxes at all in 2010....
...Though it has been earning billions in profits, it paid an average tax rate of just 1.8 percent between 2002 and 2011...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/11/gene...
Excellent points, and again, liberals make intelligent points, while all conservatives have are lies and bullying, and in his case, stalking.
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#39 Jun 28, 2013
GE whistle-blower complaints
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T4NDMKH...
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General Electric sabotage
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#40 Jun 28, 2013
Why is Marijuana Illegal?(cont.)

5. It was once associated with oppressed ethnic groups.
The intense anti-marijuana movement of the 1930s dovetailed nicely with the intense anti-Chicano movement of the 1930s. Marijuana was associated with Mexican Americans, and a ban on marijuana was seen as a way of discouraging Mexican-American subcultures from developing.
Today, thanks in large part to the very public popularity of marijuana among whites during the 1960s and 1970s, marijuana is no longer seen as what one might call an ethnic drug--but the groundwork for the anti-marijuana movement was laid down at a time when marijuana was seen as an encroachment on the U.S. majority-white culture.

6. Inertia is a powerful force in public policy.
If something has been banned for only a short period of time, then the ban is seen as unstable. If something has been banned for a long time, however, then the ban--no matter how ill-conceived it might be--tends to go unenforced long before it is actually taken off the books.
Take the ban on sodomy, for example. It hasn't really been enforced in any serious way since the 18th century, but most states technically banned same-sex sexual intercourse until the Supreme Court ruled such bans unconstitutional in Lawrence v. Texas (2003).
People tend to be comfortable with the status quo--and the status quo, for nearly a century, has been a literal or de facto federal ban on marijuana.

7. Advocates for marijuana legalization rarely present an appealing case.
To hear some advocates of marijuana legalization say it, the drug cures diseases while it promotes creativity, open-mindedness, moral progression, and a closer relationship with God and/or the cosmos. That sounds incredibly foolish, particularly when the public image of a marijuana user is, again, that of a loser who risks arrest and imprisonment so that he or she can artificially invoke an endorphin release.
A much better argument for marijuana legalization, from my vantage point, would go more like this: "It makes some people happy, and it doesn't seem to be any more dangerous than alcohol. Do we really want to go around putting people in prison and destroying their lives over this?"
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#42 Jun 28, 2013
Protester wrote:
http://civilliberty.about.com/ od/drugpolicy/tp/Why-is-Mariju ana-Illegal.htm
Maybe they're Afraid Of Too Much Peace And Harmony
Maybe they're Afraid Of Open Minds And People Free

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#43 Jun 29, 2013
Federal Appeals Court Won’t Change

Marijuana’s ‘Dangerous Drug’ Classification
By Nicole Flatow on Jan 22, 2013

In the debate over the legal status of marijuana, one of the major obstacles to more lenient federal treatment is the Drug Enforcement Administration’s classification of cannabis as a dangerous drug with no medical use. A federal appeals panel declined Tuesday to change that classification, finding that the DEA’s decision not to reschedule marijuana was not so improper that it warranted court invalidation:
On the merits, the question before the court is not whether marijuana could have some medical benefits. Rather, the limited question that we address is whether the DEA’s decision declining to initiate proceedings to reschedule marijuana under the CSA was arbitrary and capricious.

Petitioners … are left with the difficult task of showing that the DEA has misapplied its own regulations.

[W]e are obliged to defer to the agency’s interpretation of “adequate and well-controlled studies.” Judged against the DEA’s standard, we find nothing in the record that could move us to conclude that the agency failed to prove by substantial evidence that such studies confirming marijuana’s medical efficacy do not exist.
Since the Controlled Substances Act was first passed in 1970, marijuana has been classified as a Schedule I drug, the most restrictive of the five schedules. The initial House of Representatives report recommended that Congress classify marijuana as Schedule I at least temporarily “until the completion of certain studies now underway to resolve the issue,” reasoning that uncertainty remained about the effects of the drug. But multiple requests that the DEA reconsider its decision have failed, on the grounds that there is still insufficient research to make a determination.
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#44 Jun 29, 2013
So why is non-psychoactive Hemp illegal?

There is an old saying: if you want to get to the root of a problem, follow the money. This holds true for hemp. In this case we have to ask the question ‘who benefits from hemp being illegal?’ The logical answer is: the oil companies
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