Bush is a hero
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United States

#179871 Jul 15, 2014
UNHCR - Latin America - UNHCR - The UN Refugee Agency
www.unhcr.org › Home › Where We Work › Americas
UNHCR budgets for Latin America (USD) Operation 2013 Revised budget (as of 30 June 2013) 2014 2015; Refugee programme PILLAR 1 Stateless programme PILLAR 2

History of UNHCR - UNHCR - The UN Refugee Agency
www.unhcr.org › Home › About Us
... especially the 30-year-old Afghan refugee problem.... such as Africa and Latin America,... resettlement in countries like the United States and Australia,

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Bahahhaaaaaa Enjoy the big fine mess of infinite Porportiona crisis of conflict indigestion OF US neo-imperailism agendas and it intrrelationship with immigration policy. What did i say?

Bahahaaaa

Bahahhaa ,
The Awakener

Liverpool, Australia

#179872 Jul 16, 2014
Strength and Honor wrote:
<quoted text>
There's violence all over the world, Hip. Should we allow all of them in simply because they're with a child or the child is alone? President Obama did make the situation worse. He was supposed to secure the border like he said he was going to.
There is a crisis going on with illegal immigration. We spend hundreds of billions of dollars on them. These are funds we could use for our own people. This country produces so much wealth yet our seniors go without adequate drug coverage. You better believe it's the fault of all of these illegal future Democrats.
America cannot forever sustain the continuing influx of illegal immigration from Mexico and other Latin-American countries. Many of them lack in education and utilize the money of taxpayers. As you have said, many of the funds can be used to help those who are American citizens struggling to make ends meet.

In regards to the rest of the Western countries, the continuing influx of immigration really has got to stop. Relying on immigration for economic growth and to sustain "the low-birth rate" is just political nonsense. You look at Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore - these countries are also developed but you do not see the continuous influx of immigration the West has, and they are doing just fine.

What the USA could do is to offer educational programs to Mexico. Programs that can lead the Mexican society to fix their problems and distribute education and wealth among all classes - not just within the rich elite. Help grow the middle class in Mexico is one of the keys to develop the country and this will reduce the illegal migration north of the border. This would be better than funding for the illegals in the USA.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#179873 Jul 16, 2014
The Awakener wrote:
<quoted text>

What the USA could do is to offer educational programs to Mexico. Programs that can lead the Mexican society to fix their problems and distribute education and wealth among all classes - not just within the rich elite. Help grow the middle class in Mexico is one of the keys to develop the country and this will reduce the illegal migration north of the border. This would be better than funding for the illegals in the USA.
Mexico gets a ton of dollars from the US and in a couple different ways There's the drug money flooding into their country. The US government sends them millions every year and has >forever< which has done exactly nothing to substantially improve conditions down there and both legal and illegal immigrants who come here to work have sent back billions of earned American dollars OUT of the US economy and money order it right back to Mexico to 117 of their closest relatives.


"Good fences make good neighbors."

Robert Frost

"Mexico is a chronic pain in the a$$.

Lyndi
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#179874 Jul 16, 2014
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Lemme see if I got this straight.
The slimy Democrats aren't being petty about who helps out.
In other words, they're not making the kind of sleazy comment you just did.


Democrats who need anxiety medication when they hear the words "Merry Christmas" spoken in public, democrats who throw a nutty if they have to drive past a nativity scene, democrats who mock "bible clingers," a phrase I think Obama coined, democrats who earn their living trying to get the word 'God' erased from anything the they might come into contact with and then welcome the help coming from the same people they hound, is absolutely slimy.

Do YOU think it's normal to slap your neighbor's beliefs around then go over to their house when you need a cup of sugar?
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#179875 Jul 16, 2014
Strength and Honor wrote:
<quoted text>
Unfortunately, I am unable to figure out how to respond to multiple quotes within a post. When I figure it out you are going to be in so much trouble, mister.
That's like trying to figure out how to respond to rapid gunfire coming from a paintball machine.

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#179876 Jul 16, 2014
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
Democrats who need anxiety medication when they hear the words "Merry Christmas" spoken in public, democrats who throw a nutty if they have to drive past a nativity scene, democrats who mock "bible clingers," a phrase I think Obama coined, democrats who earn their living trying to get the word 'God' erased from anything the they might come into contact with and then welcome the help coming from the same people they hound, is absolutely slimy.
Do YOU think it's normal to slap your neighbor's beliefs around then go over to their house when you need a cup of sugar?
I think two neighbors who disagree completely can work together to aid a third person, and go back to fighting later.

If they have any class, they're not going to try to score cheap points off what they do.
Clearwater

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#179877 Jul 16, 2014
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
Democrats who need anxiety medication when they hear the words "Merry Christmas" spoken in public, democrats who throw a nutty if they have to drive past a nativity scene, democrats who mock "bible clingers," a phrase I think Obama coined, democrats who earn their living trying to get the word 'God' erased from anything the they might come into contact with and then welcome the help coming from the same people they hound, is absolutely slimy.
Do YOU think it's normal to slap your neighbor's beliefs around then go over to their house when you need a cup of sugar?
Sounds much like my atheist pothead neighbor. To be fair wife and I do ask him from time to time if we can help him. He once went off on a rant about Christians in general wondering if "they" would burn a cross on his front lawn. At other times he has left nice notes and one did offer his apology for Christian bashing.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#179878 Jul 16, 2014
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>I think two neighbors who disagree completely can work together to aid a third person, and go back to fighting later.
If they have any class, they're not going to try to score cheap points off what they do.
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"has any class." Also pronounced, "claaaaaaass"
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Lesson for the day for the less informed
.
1) Synonyms for the word "class" are in abundance
Tasteful, elegant, reserved, well-bred, genteel, decent, unpretentious, appropriate, quietly charitable..........

2) A person who has "class" should rarely if ever refer to their own wealth.

3) And (this is the big one). Listen up.
A person WITH any "class" never -----> ever, ever, ever, uses the word(s) " has any class." Ever.

Back to the disagreement.

It is inappropriate to slap around your neighbors beliefs then go over to their house when you need or want a cup of sugar and I don't care what or who it's for.
Similarly, it is inappropriate for bleeding heart liberals to use non bleeding heart liberals money for THEIR beliefs, THEIR causes and THEIR preferred charities.
If you want to be bleed charity, use your own blood and if we want to contribute, we'll let you know.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#179879 Jul 16, 2014
Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds much like my atheist pothead neighbor. To be fair wife and I do ask him from time to time if we can help him. He once went off on a rant about Christians in general wondering if "they" would burn a cross on his front lawn. At other times he has left nice notes and one did offer his apology for Christian bashing.
You need a new neighbor. Or a rocket launcher.

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#179880 Jul 16, 2014
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
======
"has any class." Also pronounced, "claaaaaaass"
======
Lesson for the day for the less informed
.
1) Synonyms for the word "class" are in abundance
Tasteful, elegant, reserved, well-bred, genteel, decent, unpretentious, appropriate, quietly charitable..........
2) A person who has "class" should rarely if ever refer to their own wealth.
3) And (this is the big one). Listen up.
A person WITH any "class" never -----> ever, ever, ever, uses the word(s) " has any class." Ever.
Back to the disagreement.
It is inappropriate to slap around your neighbors beliefs then go over to their house when you need or want a cup of sugar and I don't care what or who it's for.
Similarly, it is inappropriate for bleeding heart liberals to use non bleeding heart liberals money for THEIR beliefs, THEIR causes and THEIR preferred charities.
If you want to be bleed charity, use your own blood and if we want to contribute, we'll let you know.
Ahh, the mighty keybored warrioress seizes on a word and pretends to elaborate on its meaning.

"How very clever. I'm really impressed", he says with thinly veiled sarcasm.

I'm sorry it bothers you that people are giving to causes you don't believe worthy - at least, that's the impression I get from your badly executed invocation of the phony culture war. What I can't quite figure out is whether you're just so locked into screaming about liberals you can't let an opportunity (even a really bad opportunity that doesn't work at all) go by, or this is just an indirect way of criticizing the faith-based and other non-liberal groups that are doing something you don't think they should because the wrong people asked.

As for me and class, well, I'll let Mr. Cooper speak for me:

Well we got no class
And we got no principles
And we got no innocence
We can't even think of a word that rhymes
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#179881 Jul 16, 2014
Leaked Border Crisis Intel Shreds Narrative from Media and Obama Administration

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014...

The narrative from he Obama administration might have been wrong?
I'm shocked!
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#179882 Jul 16, 2014
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Ahh, the mighty keybored warrioress seizes on a word and pretends to elaborate on its meaning.
A simple "Thank you, I didn't know" would have sufficed.

I suppose discovering use of the word "class" is in really, really bad taste knowing you've used at other times, can't be pleasant. I imagine it's a lot like having a fabulous time at a party then coming home at 1:00am to find you've had a piece of spinach stuck in your front teeth the whole time and it's probably been there since lunch.

Always brush your teeth thoroughly before social events, never, ever use the word "class" when referring to people and you'll do just fine, Willie!

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#179883 Jul 16, 2014
HipGnozizzz wrote:
<quoted text>
I think what that argument does is lead to inertia by proposing a "what if" worst case hypothetical. It serves nothing in dealing with the situation at hand. That's the second instance tonite when a response proposes a complication of the core question, which does nothing to move the question at hand forward. By stating it so, we absolve ourselves for doing nothing.
The question here is, what do you do when that woman or child shows up at your door seeking refuge from violence? You have your answer, I have mine.
<quoted text>
That phrase "secure our borders" couldn't be more vague. What does that mean? How is it positively accomplished? How has the President hindered that goal?
If you are not aware that there have been more border patrols resulting in more deportations in each of the last five years than in any year previous, then you are also among those with an opinion unhindered by relevant facts. What else do you think the President is supposed to do to "secure our borders" that he has not done?
What's more relevant is, what does "secure our borders" have to do with a woman and child seeking refuge?
<quoted text>Illegal immigration is an issue, but I disagree it's a "crisis". That's newzy-speak. But these people have the misfortune of having their real-life crisis right in the middle of our debate about illegal immigration, so they get lumped in. These are not immigrants, they are refugees. The wealthiest nation on earth turned them away. America, America, God shed his grace......on thee?
Frankly,it appears your last sentence belies a predisposition on the question.
Wealthiest nation on earth?

And here I thought we were 17 trillion in debt with each man, woman and child owing about $53 grand..........
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#179884 Jul 16, 2014
Rider on the Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Wealthiest nation on earth?
And here I thought we were 17 trillion in debt with each man, woman and child owing about $53 grand..........
I think democrats use a different math formula when determining wealth.

They factor in other peoples money they think they're entitled to and they don't factor in debt. That way, it never looks like they're out of money.

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#179885 Jul 16, 2014
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
A simple "Thank you, I didn't know" would have sufficed.
I suppose discovering use of the word "class" is in really, really bad taste knowing you've used at other times, can't be pleasant. I imagine it's a lot like having a fabulous time at a party then coming home at 1:00am to find you've had a piece of spinach stuck in your front teeth the whole time and it's probably been there since lunch.
Always brush your teeth thoroughly before social events, never, ever use the word "class" when referring to people and you'll do just fine, Willie!
Persistence ... that's good. It's still not working, but you're sticking to your guns. There's something to be said for that.

Any thank you I might deliver to you for your keybored warrioress prowess would make an expression of admiration for your skills seem downright sincere.

So ... thanks ever so much for that highly original and profoundly skilled attempt to pretend to be superior. It was ... breathtaking. I will take what you said to heart.

(Pardon me while I puke.)

For me class (or, in this case, a profound lack of it) is kinda like Potter Stewart's definition of pornography - I know it when I see or don't see it.

The attempt to score political points on "Christian" response to a humanitarian crisis (ANY humanitarian crisis) lacked it in spades. If nothing else, it demonstrates a serious lack of knowledge of why Christians would do such a thing in the first place. Well, it could also be that you're just so obsessed with seeing the entire world through the lib/con perspective that you're incapable of giving it a rest - or you just don't like who's being helped.`
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#179886 Jul 16, 2014
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>
(Pardon me while I puke.)

The attempt to score political points on "Christian" response to a humanitarian crisis (ANY humanitarian crisis) lacked it in spades. If nothing else, it demonstrates a serious lack of knowledge of why Christians would do such a thing in the first place. Well, it could also be that you're just so obsessed with seeing the entire world through the lib/con perspective that you're incapable of giving it a rest - or you just don't like who's being helped.`
Puke to your hearts content.. I'll bet you think twice before you use that WORD again, though ......
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ANYWAY.......... view from up here on the turnip truck

When democrats trash the bible, the beliefs and the traditions in that bible which is what inspired the good people who >BELIEVE< to provide these border children with relief in the first place, maybe it's a good idea to stop bashing the bible and the people who carry it, in the off season. Hm?

It's not a good idea to shoot the goose that lays the golden egg and then expect it to keep laying eggs, Willie.

Just so we're clear.
You like Christian charity. You just want THEM and IT to stay hidden and quiet until you need their god inspired charity, then they can come out and give. PLUS you don't want me, the objective 3rd party calling you (democrats/liberals) out on any previous bad behavior to these generous people at a time when we should be focused on the needy.

A plan only a liberal could rationalize!


Welcome to Nutsville!

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#179887 Jul 16, 2014
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
Puke to your hearts content.. I'll bet you think twice before you use that WORD again, though ......
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ANYWAY.......... view from up here on the turnip truck
When democrats trash the bible, the beliefs and the traditions in that bible which is what inspired the good people who >BELIEVE< to provide these border children with relief in the first place, maybe it's a good idea to stop bashing the bible and the people who carry it, in the off season. Hm?
It's not a good idea to shoot the goose that lays the golden egg and then expect it to keep laying eggs, Willie.
Just so we're clear.
You like Christian charity. You just want THEM and IT to stay hidden and quiet until you need their god inspired charity, then they can come out and give. PLUS you don't want me, the objective 3rd party calling you (democrats/liberals) out on any previous bad behavior to these generous people at a time when we should be focused on the needy.
A plan only a liberal could rationalize!
Welcome to Nutsville!
Now that I've quit laughing at your shameless claim that you can be objective about Democrats ....

As a Christian who happens to be a Democrat, you do not speak for me at all. You are CLEARLY trying to make political points over an aspect of the 'border children' that isn't political, period.

I wish I could say I'm surprised no one/anyone else has told you that who also agrees with you on the actual political aspects of the border children ... but to say that would rank up with your bogus claim of objectivity.

On this one, Lyndi, you're not just missing the essential link to make the connection, but the two ends of the chain you're trying to connect are about six miles apart.

Even given the phony nature of the culture war shtick, this one is very badly done.
UidiotRaceMAkeWo rldPeace

United States

#179888 Jul 16, 2014
The Awakener wrote:
<quoted text>
America cannot forever sustain the continuing influx of illegal immigration from Mexico and other Latin-American countries. Many of them lack in education and utilize the money of taxpayers. As you have said, many of the funds can be used to help those who are American citizens struggling to make ends meet.
In regards to the rest of the Western countries, the continuing influx of immigration really has got to stop. Relying on immigration for economic growth and to sustain "the low-birth rate" is just political nonsense. You look at Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore - these countries are also developed but you do not see the continuous influx of immigration the West has, and they are doing just fine.
What the USA could do is to offer educational programs to Mexico. Programs that can lead the Mexican society to fix their problems and distribute education and wealth among all classes - not just within the rich elite. Help grow the middle class in Mexico is one of the keys to develop the country and this will reduce the illegal migration north of the border. This would be better than funding for the illegals in the USA.
US destroy their Agricultural bases set up industrail bases the polute their land with extremely Toxic INDUSTRAIL WASTE thAT CAN'T BE REVERTED BACK TO fORMER Agriculture land to support their livelihood, and put some of the most awful latin dictators that US puppet that don't care about its people and US wars on their lands, steal their raw resources/intellectual capitals... how are they gonna support themselves, that set up for onstage of influx of massive refugees /illegals into US,.... So?
Bhahahaa

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#179889 Jul 16, 2014
The Awakener wrote:
<quoted text>
America cannot forever sustain the continuing influx of illegal immigration from Mexico and other Latin-American countries. Many of them lack in education and utilize the money of taxpayers. As you have said, many of the funds can be used to help those who are American citizens struggling to make ends meet.
In regards to the rest of the Western countries, the continuing influx of immigration really has got to stop. Relying on immigration for economic growth and to sustain "the low-birth rate" is just political nonsense. You look at Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore - these countries are also developed but you do not see the continuous influx of immigration the West has, and they are doing just fine.
What the USA could do is to offer educational programs to Mexico. Programs that can lead the Mexican society to fix their problems and distribute education and wealth among all classes - not just within the rich elite. Help grow the middle class in Mexico is one of the keys to develop the country and this will reduce the illegal migration north of the border. This would be better than funding for the illegals in the USA.
Or we could just warn Mexico that if they don't secure their own borders and do something to stop the people smuggling, we'll cancel all US funding to Mexico.

That'd do it.
Clearwater

Safety Harbor, FL

#179890 Jul 16, 2014
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Now that I've quit laughing at your shameless claim that you can be objective about Democrats ....
As a Christian who happens to be a Democrat, you do not speak for me at all. You are CLEARLY trying to make political points over an aspect of the 'border children' that isn't political, period.
I wish I could say I'm surprised no one/anyone else has told you that who also agrees with you on the actual political aspects of the border children ... but to say that would rank up with your bogus claim of objectivity.
On this one, Lyndi, you're not just missing the essential link to make the connection, but the two ends of the chain you're trying to connect are about six miles apart.
Even given the phony nature of the culture war shtick, this one is very badly done.
On a bit of a different note this does bring a question to my mind. If you don't want to answer no big deal... But I do wonder especially of Christians on the left your thoughts of the dnc convention in Charlotte where at first they were not going to speak of God and then took a vote on the matter. It seemed from the tape those present in the majority didn't want God as any part of it but it was changed for p.c I guess? Me I have more respect for an atheist than people that play games. And I say that for both sides. As a member of a non denominational one I see many that play church too.

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