Bush is a hero

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#175060 Feb 21, 2014
USA_1 wrote:
<quoted text>Nobody pays attention to you, other than your bum chum Catcher1. <¦-o
If Nobody pays attention to me then that makes you "Nobody".

Dooooooh....

USA_1

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Since: Aug 13

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#175061 Feb 21, 2014
Yellow Piss Stain is Back wrote:
<quoted text>
You're wrong here, there, and everywhere. You see only in black or white and miss every color in between. You attempt to contrast yourself as good by labeling others as evil. In short...you're an idiot.
Nice try wagging the dog, dullard. You've posted on another thread, coming to the side of anti American propagandists. You're a little dumber than LittleWillie and at least he's not an anti American propagandist like you, he's just an Obamabot. You on the other hand, have no credibility, cretin. <¦-o

USA_1

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Since: Aug 13

Tanner Flats

#175062 Feb 21, 2014
Yellow Piss Stain is Back wrote:
<quoted text>
Except in math, reading, science, and several other categories. We used to be the best but idiots like have done your damndest to reverse that trend.
It's your leftist ilk, that run the educational system and set all this country's foreign policies and domestic regulations, so who's the real idiot here, imbecile? <¦-o

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#175063 Feb 21, 2014
USA_1 wrote:
<quoted text>Nice try wagging the dog, dullard. You've posted on another thread, coming to the side of anti American propagandists. You're a little dumber than LittleWillie and at least he's not an anti American propagandist like you, he's just an Obamabot. You on the other hand, have no credibility, cretin. <¦-o
All you have done is give credibility to anti-American propagandists with your idiocy and utter stupidity.

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#175064 Feb 21, 2014


I don't care what your politics are this is funny (and true)

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#175065 Feb 21, 2014
USA_1 wrote:
<quoted text>It's your leftist ilk, that run the educational system and set all this country's foreign policies and domestic regulations, so who's the real idiot here, imbecile? <¦-o
To answer your question, you are...you tool.

USA_1

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Since: Aug 13

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#175066 Feb 21, 2014
Yellow Piss Stain is Back wrote:
<quoted text>
All you have done is give credibility to anti-American propagandists with your idiocy and utter stupidity.
How so, idiot? You're the type, that if you had the resources like say Danny Glover, Michael Moore or Dennis Rodman, you'd be palling around with the first tin horn dictator that came down the pipe, leftist turd. <¦-o

USA_1

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#175067 Feb 21, 2014
Yellow Piss Stain is Back wrote:
<quoted text>
To answer your question, you are...you tool.
Take your Cloward Piven ideology and find yourself a nice socialist country to live in. You're not needed here comrade. <¦-o

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#175068 Feb 22, 2014

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Safety Harbor, FL

#175069 Feb 22, 2014
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, you're going to be real successful in sparking a discussion when you start off by telling me what I 'really' think or why I 'really' do/don't do something.
Not.
You're about as accurate as the moron who thinks I have a communist agenda, lisw.
The closest to an actual discussion that's happened in this thread for ... I dunno how long are debates between the so called moderate conservatives and the libertarian/far right crowd.
What do you think the U.S. should be doing about the Ukraine?
(If you think I'm going to even come close to touching on the fictional 'monitors in the newsroom', you're outta your ever-loving mind.)
Yea, fictional.

ACLJ: Under Fire - Obama Administration Pulls Plug On Intrusive Program To Target Newsrooms - Victory For First Amendment

WASHINGTON, Feb. 21, 2014 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/-- The American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), which focuses on constitutional law, said today a decision by the Obama Administration to pull the plug on a program putting monitors in newsrooms is a significant victory for the First Amendment and the freedom of the press. Under fire from a growing number of Americans, the FCC today released a statement announcing it is pulling the plug on the proposal saying some of the questions directed to members of the news media "overstepped the bounds of what is required." The reversal comes as the ACLJ heard from nearly 80,000 Americans in just several days opposing the intrusive move.

http://news.yahoo.com/aclj-under-fire-obama-a...

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Since: May 07

Safety Harbor, FL

#175070 Feb 22, 2014
lisw wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =b9ZQFuEUEMYXX
I don't care what your politics are this is funny (and true)
Good one.

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Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#175071 Feb 22, 2014
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>That's probably the biggest area where you and I disagree is whether a diplomatic move that temporarily stops the violence works. I don't think it does. It's like putting a cork in a nuclear reactor. We do it way too often, putting sanctions on that don't work or that somehow they find a way around, making agreements they don't keep, and shaking fingers. Obama is supposed to have this power of speech and charisma. That is what Reagan had and when he made a speech he really did make world leaders think "I want some of that" He could make America look like it had the right idea. I don't think Obama is capable of that because he doesn't like America so much. He doesn't believe in our military and he thinks we should be more like "them."
Fine, you don't believe that a diplomatic move will work.

What other options do we have? You threw Obama's alleged lack of faith in our military in your post - are you suggesting we have a military option in the Ukraine?

If you think a speech by an American president - any American president - could have diffused a situation like the Ukraine, please show me a comparable example. The Brandenburg Gate speech isn't one. The situations were very very different. The situation in Berlin was horrible - but it was static. That speech was a well planned, well executed, gentle push on a house that was collapsing. The situation in the Ukraine right now, on the other hand, is dynamic and volatile, and not one where a gentle push can be effective.

The power of speech and charisma of American presidents - Obama, Reagan, and the rest of them - is domestic. Occasionally something they say (Wilson's 14 Points, Kennedy's Ich bin ein Berliner, Reagan's Brandenburg Gate speech) inspire people all over the world - but they have a negligible impact on world leaders, especially those who are 'acting badly'.

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#175072 Feb 22, 2014
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
Yea, fictional.
ACLJ: Under Fire - Obama Administration Pulls Plug On Intrusive Program To Target Newsrooms - Victory For First Amendment
WASHINGTON, Feb. 21, 2014 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/-- The American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), which focuses on constitutional law, said today a decision by the Obama Administration to pull the plug on a program putting monitors in newsrooms is a significant victory for the First Amendment and the freedom of the press. Under fire from a growing number of Americans, the FCC today released a statement announcing it is pulling the plug on the proposal saying some of the questions directed to members of the news media "overstepped the bounds of what is required." The reversal comes as the ACLJ heard from nearly 80,000 Americans in just several days opposing the intrusive move.
http://news.yahoo.com/aclj-under-fire-obama-a...
You betcha it was fictional.

There was to be a survey taken, an academic study on the methodology behind story selection.

The so-called monitors were to be in place for X amount of time for that purpose only.

That's so different from the first step towards censorship or whatever other crap about this has been spewed it's not funny.

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#175073 Feb 22, 2014
WIR is going to be jealous ...

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#175074 Feb 22, 2014
USA_1 wrote:
<quoted text>I like how you employ the typical left-wing tactic, that anyone who isn't a big government liberal, is a low intellect immature knuckle dragger. As far as the Yellow Piss Stain goes, I've run across him before and trust me, he plays on the same team that you do, commie. <¦-o
Tactic? You mean like calling people a commie? That kind of tactic?

I get it. Some people gotta party like it's 1954, but hey - whatever floats your boat.

Immaturity isn't ideological.

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#175075 Feb 22, 2014
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>From where I'm sitting, down here in my basement man-cave, it sure looks like a) you think about him a lot, and b) he drives you to distraction. I believe I once said if there was nothing else for you to criticize you'd find fault with his choice of socks, and (again from my perspective) it's only gotten worse.
Citation: reference earlier slow right-wing newzey cycle where Obama's choice of undershirt drove the page for nearly a whole day. Riveting.....

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#175076 Feb 22, 2014
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I should explain. My intentions will be good. But there have been times that I was accused (usually by Hip) of getting personal and that was not my intent and I wouldn't understand how he got that out of something I said. So I intend to have a deal.
There ya go - drag in the guy that ain't there. Courageous.

Archives will show that recognition of your tendency to personalize discussions has been multilateral.

And you still can't grasp the difference between "getting personal" (which I never said) and "personalizing the discussion" (which more than myself have noted).

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

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#175077 Feb 22, 2014
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Tactic? You mean like calling people a commie? That kind of tactic?

I get it. Some people gotta party like it's 1954, but hey - whatever floats your boat.

Immaturity isn't ideological.
>snort< (Tommy Chong voice-over): Right on, right on.

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Since: Jul 07

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#175078 Feb 22, 2014
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Fine, you don't believe that a diplomatic move will work.
What other options do we have? You threw Obama's alleged lack of faith in our military in your post - are you suggesting we have a military option in the Ukraine?
If you think a speech by an American president - any American president - could have diffused a situation like the Ukraine, please show me a comparable example. The Brandenburg Gate speech isn't one. The situations were very very different. The situation in Berlin was horrible - but it was static. That speech was a well planned, well executed, gentle push on a house that was collapsing. The situation in the Ukraine right now, on the other hand, is dynamic and volatile, and not one where a gentle push can be effective.
The power of speech and charisma of American presidents - Obama, Reagan, and the rest of them - is domestic. Occasionally something they say (Wilson's 14 Points, Kennedy's Ich bin ein Berliner, Reagan's Brandenburg Gate speech) inspire people all over the world - but they have a negligible impact on world leaders, especially those who are 'acting badly'.
will say this tho'- Referencing Bush's response to the Chechnya invasion is very relevant to this quasi-discussion, if only to show that expecting the American president's words to hold sway over foreign inter-border squabbles is chimerical at best. At worst, as in this case, it is yet another example of accusing a despised president of impotence while ignoring (as in "appearing ignorant of") a parallel situation under a beloved president. As far as I can see, it only makes it worse that Bush was allegedly "buds" with Putin, yet was seemingly "unable" to quell that violence.

To be clear - I do NOT expect Bush to have made a difference. Likewise do I not expect the current President to do so. Same-same. The only difference is the ideological perspective of the respective critics.

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#175079 Feb 22, 2014
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>There ya go - drag in the guy that ain't there. Courageous.
Archives will show that recognition of your tendency to personalize discussions has been multilateral.
And you still can't grasp the difference between "getting personal" (which I never said) and "personalizing the discussion" (which more than myself have noted).
sigh. My grand daughter lives 600 miles away. Clearly I don't get to see her everyday, but I sure talk about her everyday. Unless I'm slamming the person I see talking about them even if they are not here as a gesture of esteem. But it's clear you and I don't think alike, so I apologize because even though it wasn't meant that way your feelings are valid.

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